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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:04pm On Jul 28, 2021
donjazet:
I truly don't see the need for singing a center back. We have that place fully covered. We have 2 major problems in our squad, which are; a goal scoring midfielder and a clinical striker. Anything more than that can just unsettle the squad. Kounde is simply a luxurious signing. I hope we don't spend anything substantial at all.

I can see people already going about digging up the best stats for kounde. That will only serve a bad purpose, as people will begin to place heightened expectations on a player they know absolutely nothing about.
We don't need to be gullible to the clubs PR implants on social media.
heightened expectations is already there in a player replacing both Tomori and Zouma, a player hopeful that would make the fans forget Chelsea sold Guehi for 20m+
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 9:11pm On Jul 28, 2021
BlueMann:


€10m? cheesy

Lai lai, Sevilla no go collect. I don't think so.

It wouldn't be bad if she can further reduce the fee sha.
Make dem leave the deal nah.. Zouma + €30m is a no no for me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:25pm On Jul 28, 2021
Singapore1:

clubs and players are guilty of this ... them plenty, all those strange twitter handle hyping players are all PR

Of course na. Many clubs carry out extensive PR activities on social media of which the most prominent is making overtures towards some social media handles who are like influencers. Many of those popular club fan handles are paid by the club or work in conjunction with them. Sometimes releasing strategic information to the public through them in the form of "leaks".
Many clubs do this very well. It's all part of PR.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:41pm On Jul 28, 2021
Ebukacute:

Make dem leave the deal nah.. Zouma + €30m is a no no for me
seems Tottenham made the same offer to Sevilla which was accepted £25m + Sanchez Davidson
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:45pm On Jul 28, 2021
Chelsea attackers need to get better
Callum Odoi gets better
Pulisic, as well as Ziyech remain fit and in form

Havertz and Werner start firing in goals

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 10:00pm On Jul 28, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Chelsea attackers need to get better
Callum Odoi gets better
Pulisic, as well as Ziyech remain fit and in form

Havertz and Werner start firing in goals
mount plays more minutes than all the other attackers

Send your mail to his inbox angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:05pm On Jul 28, 2021
Jules #Koundè has agreed personal terms with #Chelsea for a contract until 2026 (€4M/year + bonuses). The french centre-back is pushing to join #Blues and wants to leave #Sevilla, which are in advanced talks with #CFC for his sale. #transfers

That isn't up to £70k per week shocked
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 10:08pm On Jul 28, 2021
lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 10:13pm On Jul 28, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Jules #Koundè has agreed personal terms with #Chelsea for a contract until 2026 (€4M/year + bonuses). The french centre-back is pushing to join #Blues and wants to leave #Sevilla, which are in advanced talks with #CFC for his sale. #transfers

That isn't up to £70k per week shocked

This is waste of money.
This lad is on par with Zouma & Christensen, even below cos he hasn't been tested in a tougher league.
Nigga is even shorter than Christensen & Zouma for that CB role.
We have started our usual interval wasteful summer spending .
Spits undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 10:20pm On Jul 28, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Konate's market value is lower than Koundes and Upamecano

It doesn't matter, we need a new CB before August 11th, Christensen, Cesar and Thiago may not be available, due to their involvement in Euros and Copa America

So you support this panic buy?
This idea is preposterous!
My guy, you fall my hand.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 10:26pm On Jul 28, 2021
BlueAngel444:
seems Tottenham made the same offer to Sevilla which was accepted £25m + Sanchez Davidson
Let them carry jare....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:22pm On Jul 28, 2021
BlueAngel444:
seems Tottenham made the same offer to Sevilla which was accepted £25m + Sanchez Davidson

Tottenham should be happy with such a deal for Sanchez is utter crap
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:23pm On Jul 28, 2021
OJURONGBE1:


So you support this panic buy?
This idea is preposterous!
My guy, you fall my hand.

BlueAngel is not a guy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 11:56pm On Jul 28, 2021
Ibime:


BlueAngel is not a guy
She is a babe.
A very pretty Igbo girl.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:01am On Jul 29, 2021
OJURONGBE1:


So you support this panic buy?
This idea is preposterous!
My guy, you fall my hand.
don't just jump on one post undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:03am On Jul 29, 2021
OJURONGBE1:


This is waste of money.
This lad is on par with Zouma & Christensen, even below cos he hasn't been tested in a tougher league.
Nigga is even shorter than Christensen & Zouma for that CB role.
We have started our usual interval wasteful summer spending .
Spits undecided
wetin we wan do, Kounde is joining already na to pray for the best


This deal reminds me of the skeptism when Chilwell was signed. Read that both Tuchel and Cech want him in Chelsea, at least trust them
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:19am On Jul 29, 2021
Ebukacute:

She is a babe.
A very pretty Igbo girl.

Ebuka shey you fit use touch and follow for her
Nack her with ring
Make she just become your housewife and stop posting here grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 12:20am On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:


The release clause is a deterrent in case the selling club don't want to lose a player at an inopportune time, it is not a target for a buying club to aim toward. Koundes market value is the same as them Konate and Upamecano around that 40m mark

Wow. I bin dey look am from that €80m perspective.

But I think Kounde has a lot of hype right now, na why Sevilla fit get good deal for the guy. Again Chelsea prolly feel he's better suited to TT's style than Big Kurt, so they decided to just trade and add some cash.

Let's see sha, maybe the cash will turn out to be less than the purported €30milla.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 12:21am On Jul 29, 2021
Ebukacute:

She is a babe.
A very pretty Igbo girl.

cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 12:28am On Jul 29, 2021
donjazet:
I truly don't see the need for singing a center back. We have that place fully covered. We have 2 major problems in our squad, which are; a goal scoring midfielder and a clinical striker. Anything more than that can just unsettle the squad. Kounde is simply a luxurious signing. I hope we don't spend anything substantial at all.

I can see people already going about digging up the best stats for kounde. That will only serve a bad purpose, as people will begin to place heightened expectations on a player they know absolutely nothing about.
We don't need to be gullible to the clubs PR implants on social media.

You're right about that PR thing though. Today I just dey see rave reviews about the guy, and me sef jump ontop the bandwagon when I saw that €80million release clause shii, na later I reason the thing wella.

Surely the gulf in value between Zouma and Kounde isn't up to €30million, now that I think of it. The thing no too clear for my eyes again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:30am On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:


BlueAngel is not a guy

I swear that monika don confuse me tire. Somedays, I'll think it's a guy, somedays I'll think it's a girl.
Blueangel, you sef talk kwanu. You be Man abi you be woman?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:34am On Jul 29, 2021
BlueMann:


You're right about that PR thing though. Today I just dey see rave reviews about the guy, and me sef jump ontop the bandwagon when I saw that €80million release clause shii, na later I reason the thing wella.

Surely the gulf in value between Zouma and Kounde isn't up to €30million, now that I think of it. The thing no too clear for my eyes again.

I've known about that PR shit since, that's why I don't easily jump on any band wagon that's making waves on social media. The club uses most of those channels to pass unofficial news or Guage the public's reaction or perception about some issues.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:37am On Jul 29, 2021
BlueMann:


You're right about that PR thing though. Today I just dey see rave reviews about the guy, and me sef jump ontop the bandwagon when I saw that €80million release clause shii, na later I reason the thing wella.

Surely the gulf in value between Zouma and Kounde isn't up to €30million, now that I think of it. The thing no too clear for my eyes again.

I was surprised when you were talking about release clause. What matters is the real value of the player. A club can place release clause of 1 billion dollars on an average player to scare away rivals but that one no mean say if you buy him for 200m dollars you should be celebrating that you got a good deal.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sniper04(m): 4:45am On Jul 29, 2021
I've watched kounde play many times he's actually very good

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:20am On Jul 29, 2021
In as much as CB is not a position we desperately need right now, I can understand why the club is going for Kounde. Even using Zouma to get the deal done.

Kounde is versatile. He plays CB (can play RCB in a 3 man defence) and RB....And he can play RWB too.

Zouma can't give us these options. I'm a fan of Zouma and will be sad to see him go. But in a swap deal with Kounde, it's a good deal.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 6:36am On Jul 29, 2021
raumdeuter:


Ebuka shey you fit use touch and follow for her
Nack her with ring
Make she just become your housewife and stop posting here grin grin
Sir dayo.. I no do touch and follow jazz ooo.
I no dey use ring nack,na my priiiick I dey use cheesy
I don't want blueangel to stop posting here,she is Chelsea to the core and her posts are interesting grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 6:42am On Jul 29, 2021
donjazet:


I swear that monika don confuse me tire. Somedays, I'll think it's a guy, somedays I'll think it's a girl.
Blueangel, you sef talk kwanu. You be Man abi you be woman?
Na babe she be. He family blood is blue ,from her dad to siblings..she have admitted that she is a woman on nairaland sports section(not here though)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:45am On Jul 29, 2021
I don't understand this zouma lamentations.

Zouma is an average CB at his absolute best and i don't think he can ever improve more than what we've seen and with the quality of CB our rivals current boost we are a step behind with Kurt Zouma.

Kounde is still very young and have a lot of potential and can even be a world class CB and not that we are sacrificing anything by getting him because I think he
will perform better than Zouma in our defensive set up.
The only advantage I think zouma have is the aerial duel but Kounde stat have shown that he is also very good aerially.

Zouma + €30 million = Present Kounde + his potential for €30 million.
Learning from Thiago Silva in his last year will be very good for him.
If he fulfill his potential his value will triple in 2 years.

It is not the best deal or a transfer masterpiece but it actually not a bad business either.
I'm in full support of it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 7:01am On Jul 29, 2021
OVA200:
I don't understand this zouma lamentations.

Zouma is an average CB at his absolute best and i don't think he can ever improve more than what we've seen and with the quality of CB our rivals current boost we are a step behind with Kurt Zouma.

Kounde is still very young and have a lot of potential and can even be a world class CB and not that we are sacrificing anything by getting him because I think he
will perform better than Zouma in our defensive set up.
The only advantage I think zouma have is the aerial duel but Kounde stat have shown that he is also very good aerially.

Zouma + €30 million = Present Kounde + his potential for €30 million.
Learning from Thiago Silva in his last year will be very good for him.
If he fulfill his potential his value will triple in 2 years.

It is not the best deal or a transfer masterpiece but it actually not a bad business either.
I'm full in support of it.

Zouma+€30m = kounde? Na see finish make una dey underrate our players like this.
It is not always good on the other side bro. How much do you think zouma is worth in a market where ben white,Ben chillwell,Benjamin mendy is worth 50mill or there about,harry Maguire 80mil plus,declan rice 70mill and the rest. In my own opinion zouma shouldn't be valued any figure less than 35mil to 40mil ,add it to the 30mill it will have you buying kounde at 70mill plus.... No be better deal bro,marina no be woodward.. How much did Liverpool singn kounate? Or is kounde far better than konate?
The marina wey I know no go give sevilla zouma plus 30mill if e too bad,she go give them 30mill ,pull payinti join am to sign kounde. grin
Where is donmonunt18,I will love to hear is opinion on this deal
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:16am On Jul 29, 2021
Ebukacute:

Zouma+€30m = kounde? Na see finish make una dey underrate our players like this.
It is not always good on the other side bro. How much do you think zouma is worth in a market where ben white,Ben chillwell,Benjamin mendy is worth 50mill or there about,harry Maguire 80mil plus,declan rice 70mill and the rest. In my own opinion zouma shouldn't be valued any figure less than 35mil to 40mil ,add it to the 30mill it will have you buying kounde at 70mill plus.... No be better deal bro,marina no be woodward.. How much did Liverpool singn kounate? Or is kounde far better than konate?
The marina wey I know no go give sevilla zouma plus 30mill if e too bad,she go give them 30mill ,pull payinti join am to sign kounde. grin
Where is donmonunt18,I will love to hear is opinion on this deal
How many times will they inform you people Liverpool triggered Konate release clause.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 7:23am On Jul 29, 2021
Ebukacute:

Zouma+€30m = kounde? Na see finish make una dey underrate our players like this.
It is not always good on the other side bro. How much do you think zouma is worth in a market where ben white,Ben chillwell,Benjamin mendy is worth 50mill or there about,harry Maguire 80mil plus,declan rice 70mill and the rest. In my own opinion zouma shouldn't be valued any figure less than 35mil to 40mil ,add it to the 30mill it will have you buying kounde at 70mill plus.... No be better deal bro,marina no be woodward.. How much did Liverpool singn kounate? Or is kounde far better than konate?
The marina wey I know no go give sevilla zouma plus 30mill if e too bad,she go give them 30mill ,pull payinti join am to sign kounde. grin
Where is donmonunt18,I will love to hear is opinion on this deal
Bro.
When a club is buying a player what will be put into consideration is his present performance or his potential or both.
Zouma is average at best and his potential to develop into A list CB is very very low.
In this current era in football a quality CB must be good with his feet and Zouma is even below average with his feet.
A top team that want to compete will not go for Zouma because he is not good enough now and won't be in the near future considering his age.

All those players you listed are bought that high because of their then present performance or future potential or both, which one did Zouma have currently in both; present performance below average future potential non existent.

In buying a young player the team is investing in the talent of the player and what he will become for the club, if it's about present and not future we should have gone for Sergio Ramos for free then but it's about what will happen in the near future.

Currently Zouma is valued even lesser than tomori.
And that should tells you something.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 7:26am On Jul 29, 2021
donjazet:


I swear that monika don confuse me tire. Somedays, I'll think it's a guy, somedays I'll think it's a girl.
Blueangel, you sef talk kwanu. You be Man abi you be woman?

It's easy to spot a woman. All there talks are hinged on emotions rather than logic.

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