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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 8:04am On Jul 30, 2021
Griffon:
Throwback to the time Nike couldn't be bothered to design a new kit for Spurs, so they just gave them Barcelona's Training kit grin
grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 8:06am On Jul 30, 2021
swiz123:
What evidence is circumstantial enough? If I go into someone's room and the person ends up dead. I was arrested and I claimed the person was dead already before I got there.... Won't they carryout autopsy to know the cause of death and probably the time he died?

Actually, what is reasonable or unreasonable doubt is at the discretion of the judge.. sometimes they can be faulty and that's why we have appellate courts
I agree with No 2.

But with No 1, going into someone's room and the guy being found dead later is different from you chasing a man into a room and the guy being found dead.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Amoto94(m): 8:07am On Jul 30, 2021
“Chelsea want to sign Jules Kounde no matter what. They've wanted him for the past two years. Kurt Zouma is the player that is being looked at to go the other way, but Chelsea are going to try and find a way to get this done regardless.” - @TheAthleticUK
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Skimpledawg(m): 8:15am On Jul 30, 2021
Interesting discussion.

cool


...and then Dayo spices it up with his VVD matter grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 8:24am On Jul 30, 2021
BlueRayDick:
Guy honestly I doubt this one is a juju priest, I can bet this one has more Marijuana than juju. See herbs now......He must be a very HIGH priest grin
grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 8:30am On Jul 30, 2021
BlueRayDick:
Guy honestly I doubt this one is a juju priest, I can bet this one has more Marijuana than juju. See herbs now......He must be a very HIGH priest grin
grin

Ojo meje ni baba lo ninu igbo ko to ri ewe ja
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by swiz123(m): 8:30am On Jul 30, 2021
afrodoc2:
I agree with No 2.

But with No 1, going into someone's room and the guy being found dead later is different from you chasing a man into a room and the guy being found dead.
Even for number 1.

In the screenshot below, it echos my opinion. The jury has to be certain.. They can be certain if the defendant doesn't make any reasonable arguement...

Now, are you saying that my arguement of different blood is unreasonable?

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Amoto94(m): 8:31am On Jul 30, 2021
In whatever profession you find yourself always remain ethical and moral in all of your dealings with the best of your capability. This is an advice to myself first and foremost then to others as well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 8:33am On Jul 30, 2021
swiz123:
Hazard job has always been to roam across the front line, receive the ball and creat chances or bury it. Of course, he tried to track full backs but wasn't exactly serious at it.

Havertz should be allowed that freedom to move across the forward line and manipulate spaces
You don't demand respect you earn it, if Havertz wants a free role he should work hard for it. Hazard did not just start playing a free role for is at Chelsea,he worked hard before he was allowed to do as he wish.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:37am On Jul 30, 2021
timbros:
If Bellotti's 15 year old injury is responsible for his dip in form, who is VVD to pick form in 2 months?

Airmark abi?
Ask your friend, Raumdeuter, if Busquets ceased to be his best DM ever after Mount did this to him?

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 8:43am On Jul 30, 2021
BlueRayDick:
You know what FBI want him for? They are claiming while Hush was in the middle of a major scam one of his guys Vincent wanted to blow off the lid and cast the whole parole because hush was trying to cheat him on the deal....So hush contacted Abba Kyari who helped him incarcerate Vincent after which the scam was successful.

By implication Abba Kyari helped them successfully carry out the scam by arresting Vincent and preventing him from blowing whistle.

All the evidence at their disposal showed abba kyari Knew what he was doing at that time because he even prevented Vincent's gf from paying the normal bail to get him released at that time.

Anybody interested in the full gist can go through the whole story in the link below, just paste the address in Ur browser and read thru :

ppgz.me/3ybjXsw
I'm pretty sure this agent John innocenti in this report is the same guy that typed up the Convictus Obi one.

Ray you get the Invictus Obi report? Make we check. If I'm correct, e fit be say both are linked...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by swiz123(m): 8:48am On Jul 30, 2021
popizaino:
You don't demand respect you earn it, if Havertz wants a free role he should work hard for it. Hazard did not just start playing a free role for is at Chelsea,he worked hard before he was allowed to do as he wish.
Hazard isn't known to be hard-working.... His talent shone through and Havertz's soon will
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:49am On Jul 30, 2021
PDPGuy:
I thought Kyari is being accused of being an accomplice to Hushpupi’s alleged crimes against US-based businesses?
Not exactly. Hushpuppi was being investigated for fraud and money laundering -some of which affected Americans. In the course of being investigated, all his financial transactions will be exhumed and anyone he sent monies to will be seen. They obviously saw the sum sent to that Zenith account and asked him questions about it, it turned out to be Abba Kyari's 3rd party account so they asked Hushpuppi some questions and based on his answer felt they had probable cause to obtain an arrest warrant for Kyari. Please take note that contrary to emotional opinions of people who know nihil, arrest warrants are not obtained based on "strong evidence that the FBI might have". Probable cause just means that the FBI have more than a mere suspicion that a suspect committed a crime, but not as much information as would be required to prove the suspect guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. What evidence do they have? Going from final to initial - Kyari got paid by Hush - Kyari did what Hush asked him to do - Hush asked Kyari to arrest Chibuzo - Chibuzo threatened to double cross Hush - Hush and Chibuzo worked together in a scam.

From the timeline of events, the FBI cannot place Kyari at the beginning of the process - they don't have evidence to do that. They cannot place him in stage 2. They can only see him from stages 3 to 5. Does this prove beyond reasonable doubt that Kyari knew and got involved in scamming the Qatari man? It does not. How so? Kyari might be a corrupt police officer (the money trail shows it) but if Chibuzo was in possession of a stolen car and Kyari knew about this and used it as a reason to get him arrested, it is still within his power. To the law, it does not really matter that Hush paid him to arrest Chibuzo. It may not be "good" but it does not make it wrong. It will only be wrong if Kyari planted incriminating evidence on Chibuzo to get him arrested. On police ethics, Kyari can be punished, but not by the U.S. If Kyari admits he was paid to do a hatchet job but that Chibuzo actually did commit a crime punishable by an arrest, the U.S have nothing on him. The FBI are trying to find out if the payment Kyari received is directly related to scamming the Qatari man. They do not have evidence that it is and nothing we have seen or heard so far proves that he did.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 8:58am On Jul 30, 2021
The streets will never forget Raymond Abbas sha.

The guy changed the game and showed all current and aspiring g-boys what was possible.

You don't have to stop at Arif level, you can conquer the world and turn Nigeria's most famous policeman into your personal goon.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Unlimited22: 9:03am On Jul 30, 2021
nihilistjnr:
The streets will never forget Raymond Abbas sha.

The guy changed the game and showed all current and aspiring g-boys what was possible.

You don't have to stop at Arif level, you can conquer the world and turn Nigeria's most famous policeman into your personal goon.
You just had to, didn't you?
You just couldn't resist, couldn't you?
grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by PDPGuy: 9:05am On Jul 30, 2021
Android17:
Not exactly. Hushpuppi was being investigated for fraud and money laundering -some of which affected Americans. In the course of being investigated, all his financial transactions will be exhumed and anyone he sent monies to will be seen. They obviously saw the sum sent to that Zenith account and asked him questions about it, it turned out to be Abba Kyari's 3rd party account so they asked Hushpuppi some questions and based on his answer felt they had probable cause to obtain an arrest warrant for Kyari. Please take note that contrary to emotional opinions of people who know nihil, arrest warrants are not obtained based on "strong evidence that the FBI might have". Probable cause just means that the FBI have more than a mere suspicion that a suspect committed a crime, but not as much information as would be required to prove the suspect guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. What evidence do they have? Going from final to initial - Kyari got paid by Hush - Kyari did what Hush asked him to do - Hush asked Kyari to arrest Chibuzo - Chibuzo threatened to double cross Hush - Hush and Chibuzo worked together in a scam.

From the timeline of events, the FBI cannot place Kyari at the beginning of the process - they don't have evidence to do that. They cannot place him in stage 2. They can only see him from stages 3 to 5. Does this prove beyond reasonable doubt that Kyari knew and got involved in scamming the Qatari man? It does not. How so? Kyari might be a corrupt police officer (the money trail shows it) but if Chibuzo was in possession of a stolen car and Kyari knew about this and used it as a reason to get him arrested, it is still within his power. To the law, it does not really matter that Hush paid him to arrest Chibuzo. It may not be "good" but it does not make it wrong. It will only be wrong if Kyari planted incriminating evidence on Chibuzo to get him arrested. On police ethics, Kyari can be punished, but not by the U.S. If Kyari admits he was paid to do a hatchet job but that Chibuzo actually did commit a crime punishable by an arrest, the U.S have nothing on him. The FBI are trying to find out if the payment Kyari received is directly related to scamming the Qatari man. They do not have evidence that it is and nothing we have seen or heard so far proves that he did.
Well, this latest development says an e timely different thing…

“ Vanguard reporter Rasheed Sobowale reached out to Thom Mrozek, Director of Media Relations, United States Attorney’s Office, to request full court documents indicting the police officer after a press statement by the US Department of Justice noted Hushpuppi allegedly bribed Kyari to arrest a coconspirator, Kelly Chibuzo Vincent.

According to the court documents obtained by Vanguard, DCP Abba Kyari “together with others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, knowingly conspired to commit wire fraud, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1343”.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Capaldi: 9:05am On Jul 30, 2021
As long as Kyari doesn't leave Nigeria, he is safe and nothing Is going to happen him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 9:07am On Jul 30, 2021
afrodoc2:
grin

Ojo meje ni baba lo ninu igbo ko to ri ewe ja
grin grin

ewe ti pada sunko
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by PDPGuy: 9:07am On Jul 30, 2021
An indictment, especially from a Grand Jury, basically says that prosecutors have evidence beyond mere speculation that the indicted person has committed a crime.

But of course, indicted persons are still innocent until proven guilty at trial (or if they enter into a plea deal)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 9:07am On Jul 30, 2021
Android17:
The FBI are trying to find out if the payment Kyari received is directly related to scamming the Qatari man. They do not have evidence that it is and nothing we have seen or heard so far proves that he did.
And you know this how?

What do you think happens at Discovery?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:08am On Jul 30, 2021
PDPGuy:
I thought Kyari is being accused of being an accomplice to Hushpupi’s alleged crimes against US-based businesses?
Another thing is, think of it this way, it appears that, even if Hushpuppi just called Kyari to get Chibuzo for sleeping with his girlfriend, Kyari would still have done it for money. Kyari acted like he did not care much about why he had to get Chibuzo arrested.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by swiz123(m): 9:10am On Jul 30, 2021
Let's assume Kyari isn't a typical Police mallam... His story could go like this:

I know Mr Abass as a real estate investor based in Dubai. He told me someone in the name of Chibuzor wanted to double-cross to corner his job for himself. I assumed him to mean one of his client who wants to buy his property. Now, Chibuzor went behind his back to tell the client the the documents Mr Abass presented were fake which I assumed was a lie his said to steal Mr Abass's client. He pleaded that I arrest Mr Chibuzor so he doesn't end up spoiling his Job with his lies. I told him I will look into it. I later arrested Mr Chibuzor on grounds that he tried to defame the Mr Abass in order to steal his client. Thereby taking food out of his mouth.... My team and I was later rewarded for our timely intervention which ensured that Mr Abass got his payment of $575k for what I assumed to be a sold property. I am even surprised that aside Mr Abass manipulating my moment of ignorance, he also lied to me about the actual payment which I have now discovered to be $1.1 million.

I apologise to the NPF for my conduct as I have now seen that I acted in an unprofessional manner.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 9:10am On Jul 30, 2021
nihilistjnr:
I'm pretty sure this agent John innocenti in this report is the same guy that typed up the Convictus Obi one.

Ray you get the Invictus Obi report? Make we check. If I'm correct, e fit be say both are linked...
Na Marshal ward be that Invictus own.

Here is the link to his own report
https://dd80b675424c132b90b3-e48385e382d2e5d17821a5e1d8e4c86b.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/external/nigeriabecfbi.pdf
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 9:17am On Jul 30, 2021
BlueRayDick:
Na Marshal ward be that Invictus own.

Here is the link to his own report
https://dd80b675424c132b90b3-e48385e382d2e5d17821a5e1d8e4c86b.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/external/nigeriabecfbi.pdf
Ok noted sir,

I knew I had seen the name before so I went to google it. Na innocenti do the original hushpuppi bust.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:18am On Jul 30, 2021
PDPGuy:
Well, this latest development says an e timely different thing…

“ Vanguard reporter Rasheed Sobowale reached out to Thom Mrozek, Director of Media Relations, United States Attorney’s Office, to request full court documents indicting the police officer after a press statement by the US Department of Justice noted Hushpuppi allegedly bribed Kyari to arrest a coconspirator, Kelly Chibuzo Vincent.

According to the court documents obtained by Vanguard, DCP Abba Kyari “together with others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, knowingly conspired to commit wire fraud, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1343”.
This means nothing. It is not based on what you suspect it is based on what you can prove.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Odunharry(m): 9:19am On Jul 30, 2021
PDPGuy:
Blessing Okagbare and Grace Nwokocha are both through to the Women’s 100m semifinals, after clocking 11.05s and 11.00s, respectively, in their heats.

Nwokocha’s 11s run is her new PB
Impressed especially with Blessing.. Didn't kn why she slowed down towards the finish line.

9ja should go for Gold..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 9:19am On Jul 30, 2021
swiz123:
Let's assume Kyari isn't a typical Police mallam... His story could go like this:

I know Mr Abass as a real estate investor based in Dubai. He told me someone in the name of Chibuzor wanted to double-cross to corner his job for himself. I assumed him to mean one of his client who wants to buy his property. Now, Chibuzor went behind his back to tell the client the the documents Mr Abass presented were fake which I assumed was a lie his said to steal Mr Abass's client. He pleaded that I arrest Mr Chibuzor so he doesn't end up spoiling his Job with his lies. I told him I will look into it. I later arrested Mr Chibuzor on grounds that he tried to defame the Mr Abass in order to steal his client. Thereby taking food out of his mouth.... My team and I was later rewarded for our timely intervention which ensured that Mr Abass got his payment of $575k for what I assumed to be a sold property. I am even surprised that aside Mr Abass manipulating my moment of ignorance, he also lied to me about the actual payment which I have now discovered to be $1.1 million.

I apologise to the NPF for my conduct as I have now seen that I acted in an unprofessional manner.
Did you hear the NPF is trying to arrest Kyari? cheesy

He doesn't even need to do this at all. Everybody in NPF knows the score.

Let him go to yankee and deliver this apology innocently to John Innocenti
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 9:21am On Jul 30, 2021
Odunharry:
Impressed especially with Blessing.. Didn't kn why she slowed down towards the finish line.

9ja should go for Gold..
Abeg what other events is she competing in?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:22am On Jul 30, 2021
nihilistjnr:
And you know this how?

What do you think happens at Discovery?
I read this:
https://theeagleonline.com.ng/hushpuppi-read-detailed-court-document-that-nailed-abba-kyari/

And based on the event trail, Kyari had arrested Chibuzo before knowing what he actually did.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by swiz123(m): 9:22am On Jul 30, 2021
nihilistjnr:
Did you hear the NPF is trying to arrest Kyari? cheesy

He doesn't even need to do this at all. Everybody in NPF knows the score.

Let him go to yankee and deliver this apology innocently to John Innocenti
I am just saying what he should have said in order not to appear stupid to Nigerians. His own story was very incoherent and foolish....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by swiz123(m):
Android17:
I read this:
https://theeagleonline.com.ng/hushpuppi-read-detailed-court-document-that-nailed-abba-kyari/

And based on the event trail, Kyari had arrested Chibuzo before knowing what he actually did.
Exactly!.. But the suit is that he knowingly aided Abass to commit fraud
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:26am On Jul 30, 2021
Android17:
Another thing is, think of it this way, it appears that, even if Hushpuppi just called Kyari to get Chibuzo for sleeping with his girlfriend, Kyari would still have done it for money. Kyari acted like he did not care much about why he had to get Chibuzo arrested.
Now you are getting it, he arrested vincent knowing the truth even when hush said i wanted him to be treated like a criminal
By this, the nonsense abba typed on his facebook page mean he was lying by saying hush contacted him that there is a threat to his family in naija. It was better abba didn't talk at all than that rubbish he posted yesterday
Ask yourself this why will fbi be running after him for a mere 300k, even efcc can't do that
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