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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 12:56pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
The day your brain will expand is the day you'll start viewing things with intelligence. Apparently for you, you only think vertical infrastructure is what define progress.

Lemme start with phase one which is currently at 90% completion.

Some of the main key:

Streetscape and Sub-Surface Utilities

New roadway construction in Konza Technopolis will include a hierarchy of streets: arterial and collector roadways, local level roads, and several “green streets”. The planned roadway layouts and cross-sections includes:

Roadways,
Parking areas,
Bicycle paths,
Dedicated bus lanes,
Pedestrian sidewalks,
Street lighting,
Traffic signalization and signage, and
Landscaping
Streetscape and Sub-Surface Utilities

All these are currently on course and 80% done.

Site Grading and Street Pavements you'll notice this scope is already on course! I will post the photos for you.

Read this article and enlighten yourself.
Storm Water Drainage
Konza’s development density and the imperviousness of the proposed infrastructure (paved roads, hardscapes and buildings) will lead to generation of significant storm water runoff. Storm sewers will thus be required to handle storm water runoff. The storm sewer system includes a series of drainage inlets, manholes and piping.

Water Supply Distribution
Konza water distribution system layout includes [b]trunk mains, secondary mains, distribution lines and service pipes. Service will be provided to the entire area within each phase
. The water distribution system will consist of various types and diameters of water pipes for different pressure zones and appurtenant structures including fire hydrants and isolation valves. Distribution pumping stations and storage tanks also form part of this system though these are covered in this report under a different sub-topic.

Wastewater Collection and Reticulation System
The wastewater collection system will consist of various diameter and type sewer pipe, appurtenant structures including manholes and junction chambers and gravity main pipe. Various pipe materials provide a cost effective, long life system.

Konza’s sewer collection system layout includes trunk sewers, interceptor sewers, services and gravity mains. Sizing of mains will be done to capture Phase 1 as well as future phases where sizing is critical through Phase 1.

Electrical and ICT Network
The conduits will be constructed simultaneously with the rest of the street pavement and sub-surface utilities infrastructure to curtail the retrogressive, costly and damaging effect of cutting already build pavements to lay service ducts for the same.

b. Wastewater Reclamation Facility

The Wastewater Reclamation facility consists of a 9 Ml/day advanced treatment system that incorporate the Moving Bed Biofilm Reactors (MBBR) facility for Phase 1
. It will treat water to a drinking water standard and be used in the grey water system for toilet flushing and irrigation as well as partial mixing of raw water supply to the water supply for Konza. It will be built in such a manner that it can be up-scaled to cope with sewage inflows resulting from full build-out of all phases of Konza.

c. Water Treatment, Pumping and Storage

Treatment for drinkable water treatment is expected to employ reverse osmosis in the early phases of Konza and particularly for existing borehole water reserves
. Booster pumps will pressurize water for the upper zone.

Stored water will be located at the highest locations and at elevations to facilitate zone pressures. Pressure would be maintained by elevated storage, with the tank elevation set to provide specified pressures within the zone. A Pump station will be used for the Upper pressure zone that exists for a small part of the Phase 1 site mostly near the entrance off Mombasa Road.

d. Electrical Power Supply

The electrical power supply system will comprise of power sub-stations to be constructed internally with initial power supply originating from the Konza KETRACO 132/33 KV substation. The other main consumables expected under this item are transformers, cables and associated items for electrical distribution.


e. Public Parks

Park facilities will be constructed throughout the Phase 1 part of the site. Parks will include school play fields, football fields and landscaped areas
. These include

City Perimeter Landscape
Nature Park – furnished with benches, drinking fountains, bike racks, restrooms, trash receptacles, trailhead and way finding and shade canopies etc.
Civic Park – landscape features included sculptures/monuments, outdoor stage and grand shade pavilion, shade pavilion, water fountains, benches, bike rack, lighting etc.
Urban plazas and squares
Green transit corridor
Pocket parks and playgrounds at neighbourhood centres
Field artificial turf and landscaping
f. Public Facilities

Public facility buildings that will be constructed as part of Konza Phase 1 Horizontal Infrastructure are:

Police and fire station
Entrance and security feature
Solid waste management facility, and
Transit facility.


Mind you, konza is a vision 2030 project. Once basic infrastructure is laid by the government, then investors will start rushing for land. This project is light years ahead of Tatu.
Ooops I didn’t read this.just summarize it and get back to me.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 12:57pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
One thing at a time. Is Alaro going to have a central business district or not?
Will tatu have a central business district?
both of them will have a central business district. Both of them have been planned by som architects.
.sadly if u are hoping that alaro city would have skyscrappers you would be disappointed big time.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:58pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
Ooops I didn’t read this.just summarize it and get back to me.
Engage your brain. All the points here are key.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:01pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
Engage your brain. All the points here are key.
I didn’t read any point.ur text was too long,hence why I said u should summarize so I could get what u are trying to communicate.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:02pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
One thing at a time. Is Alaro going to have a central business district or not?
Will tatu have a central business district?
Lol! What kind of question are you asking?

You literally don't know an estate?

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:04pm On Aug 05, 2021
PROVERBZ:
both of them will have a central business district. Both of them have been planned by som architects.
.sadly if u are hoping that alaro city would have skyscrappers you would be disappointed big time.
Nope tatu wouldn’t have central business district,just homes and factories with a few schools.

Alaro would embody the true meaning of a functional city with a central business district for commercial,retail,high end stores and the like.however the cbd choose to come he it in skyscrapers or low density building is not an issue to me.so long as it has a city center Igor booming business activities then I am okay. Tatu is just a regular estate with a factory twist to it.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:05pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
Lol! What kind of question are you asking?

You literally don't know an estate?
Tatu is an estate.forget the city that was added to the name.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:08pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
I didn’t read any point.ur text was too long,hence why I said u should summarize so I could get what u are trying to communicate.
I emboldened key words for you. But I can still spoon feed you.

Point 1. Phase one of the project is basically horizontal layout. This will include alot of activities eg street scaping & sub surface utilities - these entails infrastructures like
Roadways, Parking areas, Bicycle paths, Dedicated bus lanes, Pedestrian sidewalks, Street lighting, Traffic signalization and signage. All these are currently under construction.

Read this then I will continue. cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:11pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
Tatu is an estate.forget the city that was added to the name.
What is an estate according to you? Stop embarrassing yourself kid. cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:13pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
Nope tatu would have central business district
Cool cool. Your English has just betrayed you.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:14pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
I emboldened key words for you. But I can still spoon feed you.

Point 1. Phase one of the project is basically horizontal layout. This will include alot of activities eg street scaping & sub surface utilities - these entails infrastructures like
Roadways, Parking areas, Bicycle paths, Dedicated bus lanes, Pedestrian sidewalks, Street lighting, Traffic signalization and signage. All these are currently under construction.

Read this then I will continue. cool
Okay so u just regurgitated the self living fantasies u have been singing here since time immemorial. Tatu is dead and ur wall of text or this summarized version doesn’t change shiit. What u have up there is just sand dune and a little tea farm.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:14pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
What is an estate according to you? Stop embarrassing yourself kid. cool
If u don’t know what an estate is then I see why u are mostly seen as an idiot on here.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:16pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
Cool cool. Your English has just betrayed you.
What an idiot. The latter part of that sentence clearly shows that was a typo error. Lol how u badly want Tatu to have a cbd and run shoulders with Alaro.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:28pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
Okay so u just regurgitated the self living fantasies u have been singing here since time immemorial. Tatu is dead and ur wall of text or this summarized version doesn’t change shiit. What u have up there is just sand dune and a little tea farm.
The good thing is that I've shown you evidence. cool

You can keep on screaming dead, dead until 2030 when the city will be dominating esthetically.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:29pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
The good thing is that I've shown you evidence. cool

You can keep on screaming dead, dead until 2030 when the city will be dominating esthetically.
U showed me nothing.All I am seeing is tea farm and sand dunes. Not even a stretch of 1km road is within sight.

This political joke is dead ASF!!!!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:31pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
Lol! What kind of question are you asking?

You literally don't know an estate?
This render is the dead konza dream not tatu estate.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:32pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
If u don’t know what an estate is then I see why u are mostly seen as an idiot on here.
I thought your brain will mature up in 2021 but it seems you're an irredeemable maggot.

If you can't take use of your miniscule brain then don't waste my time.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:38pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
Nope tatu wouldn’t have central business district,just homes and factories with a few schools.

Alaro would embody the true meaning of a functional city with a central business district for commercial,retail,high end stores and the like .however the cbd choose to come he it in skyscrapers or low density building is not an issue to me .so long as it has a city center Igor booming business activities then I am okay. Tatu is just a regular estate with a factory twist to it.
Vlain:
What an idiot. The latter part of that sentence clearly shows that was a typo error. Lol how u badly want Tatu to have a cbd and run shoulders with Alaro.
No, no, no... The point here is not your grammatical diarrhea, it is about you proving proverbz point.

If it was something to do with grammar, then your whole gabbage would be irrelevant as it comes from kindergarten kid learning how to fix words.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:39pm On Aug 05, 2021
rvp20182:
You dont even know the difference btw commercial lending rate and base rate.
Nigeria base rate - is now 11.5 percent
Kenya base rate - is 7 percent. This is very very good.

Base rate - this rate that Nigeria central bank or kenya central bank lend to BANKS.

Now move on commercial lending rate. This normally base rate plus bank margins plus inflation rate.
This is what your bank will lend to you or me as customers.

For kenya the data is here https://www.centralbank.go.ke/commercial-banks-weighted-average-rates/
Commercial rate in kenya - deposit 6 percent - savin 3.5 percent- lending 12 percent - and overdraft is 11 percent. This is very good.

Now Nigeria commercial rate - like Ghana - HOVER around 25-30 percent
In fact your banks only quote monthly rates - to get commercial rate times with 12.

FInd the data here - hovering from - 12 to 28 percent - for some like Heritage Bank it straight hilarous 27-30 percent. Zenith is 13-30 percent.
https://www.nigeriagalleria.com/Galleria_Finance/Bank-Lending-Interest-Rates.html
Clearly you don't know much about interest rates.
Your government capped interest rates at 4% and your banks responded by refusing to lend to small businesses. Then IMF forced Uhuru to remove the cap on interest rates and within a few months it went up to 7% or so but your banks are lending at 12% to businesses.

Now in Nigeria, from the link you sent, the prime rates for most of our banks is around 11% for most industries they lend to. Some are even as low as 5%!
So you see why we have a bigger private sector and agricultural sector than Kenya.

Of course you can't expect our banks to be careless with their money and not have a maximum lending rate which applies to risky loans.

I guess some of these reasons are why our banks will always be bigger than yours and why some of them are already buying your banks in Kenya when you can't afford to have banks in West Africa. You would rather go to Somalia and Uganda.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 1:47pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
What an idiot. The latter part of that sentence clearly shows that was a typo error. Lol how u badly want Tatu to have a cbd and run shoulders with Alaro.
I swear This what Kenyans call estates

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:49pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
This render is the dead konza dream not tatu estate.
88 condominium was dead to you and now it's on 8th floors.

River side estate was dead to you, now they are on foundation stage.

What else? Konza is dead to you. But the progress is at breaknecking speed ~ 9 yrs and konza dream will come to pass.

grin grin grin shocked

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:51pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
No, no, no... The point here is not your grammatical diarrhea, it is about you proving proverbz point.

If it was something to do with grammar, then your whole gabbage would be irrelevant as it comes from kindergarten kid learning how to fix words.
So get to ur point already.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:52pm On Aug 05, 2021
rvp20182:
IMF exist for seasons like COVID. It would be an issue if like Ghana were always there...
These are times when everyone is running to IMF.
NIgeria took 3.5billion - Kenya took 1.5b.
IMF just added 650B dollars to be borrowed. You better stop enriching your banks - and borrow from IMf - so your banks can invest in private sectors and individuals.
Kenya will borrow the IMF money to help smoothen the economy during this pandemic - the loan are cheap almost zero rate.
We have no problems implement reasonable adjustment programs.
We also took more eurobond - more domestic debt - as gov continues to invest in basic infrastructure to bridge the infrastructure deficit.

Kenya projected growth last I checked was nearly 8 percent and highest in Africa this year.
Please provide links to show that Kenya's GDP is forecast to grow at 8% this year.
Meanwhile, it is clear your debt issue is worse than Nigeria's. You've gone to the IMF more times than Nigeria and you have begged for debt rescheduling. Who begs to have his debt rescheduled if not a broke man? grin
Meanwhile, this is what you should be doing instead of arguing with me on things you don't know:
Kenyans are petitioning the
International Monetary Fund to cancel
its approval of a $2.34 billion loan for
Kenya, citing mismanagement of funds
by the government and the country’s
increasing debt load.

Early this month, the IMF approved a
three-year financing package to
support Kenya’s Covid-19 response
and its plan to reduce debt
vulnerabilities. But in the latest round
of online activism in the country,
Kenyans are protesting this move.
Using the hashtags
#StopLoaningKenya and
#StopGivingKenyaLoans,
they’re
asking the financial institution to
cancel the financing arrangement,
highlighting citizens’ growing
frustration with debt burden and
corruption in the East African
country.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:52pm On Aug 05, 2021
68816419:
I swear This what Kenyans call estates
Don't spoil the thread with this kind of stupidity.

If you can't argue with facts don't resort to posting old pics. You think your country is clean?

@oba, control this nigga or we'll start posting that integrated slumbolium grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:52pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
I thought your brain will mature up in 2021 but it seems you're an irredeemable maggot.

If you can't take use of your miniscule brain then don't waste my time.
Never knew they take use of brain. Now I see why u are a hopeless brain dead lunatic. cool cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:54pm On Aug 05, 2021
68816419:
I swear This what Kenyans call estates
cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:54pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
88 condominium was dead to you and now it's on 8th floors.

River side estate was dead to you, now they are on foundation stage.

What else? Konza is dead to you. But the progress is at breaknecking speed ~ 9 yrs and konza dream will come to pass.

grin grin grin shocked
Konza is a dead project-u are entitled to keep ur hope alive but 9 years from now u will be overly disappointed with wisemen like myself laughing and reminding u how we saw the future before u could even make use of sights.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:55pm On Aug 05, 2021
Shma2020:
Don't spoil the thread with this kind of stupidity.

If you can't argue with facts don't resort to posting old pics. You think your country is clean?

@oba, control this nigga or we'll start posting that integrated slumbolium grin
Respond in kind. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:57pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
Never knew they take use of brain. Now I see why u are a hopeless brain dead lunatic. cool cool
The kid is now in utter pain. cry Come on mor0n, I just wanted to show you how you're an illiterate.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:58pm On Aug 05, 2021
Vlain:
Gallivant is hopelessly jobless. Pls keep sitting in that fence.
My nigga, I think you see me even in your sleep. Get therapy soon Samorobo. cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:59pm On Aug 05, 2021
gallivant:
My nigga, I think you see me even in your sleep. Get therapy soon Samorobo. cool
I will relay this message to samorobo whenever he comes around.u can be sure of that cool cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:59pm On Aug 05, 2021
68816419:
I swear This what Kenyans call estates
What kind of silliness is this now? Are you guys cowering from facts already? tongue
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