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Shma2020:
The kid is now in utter pain. Come on mor0n, I just wanted to show you how you're an illiterate.

I can assure u I am not pained one bit.

Vlain:
This render is the dead konza dream not tatu estate.

Kenyans can never build any meaningful city from scratch, even the Nairobi that was planned and built by the British is been rundown by the black Kenyans.

Vlain:
Konza is a dead project-u are entitled to keep ur hope alive but 9 years from now u will be overly disappointed with wisemen like myself laughing and reminding u how we saw the future before u could even make use of sights.

Lol.

Vlain:
I can assure u I am not pained one bit.

Okay bro. Let's continue

Vlain:
I will relay this message to samorobo whenever he comes around.u can be sure of that

Samorobo is your doppelganger, right?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Dante_Gabriel_Rossetti_-_How_They_Met_Themselves_%281860-64_circa%29.jpg

gallivant:
Samorobo is your doppelganger, right?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Dante_Gabriel_Rossetti_-_How_They_Met_Themselves_%281860-64_circa%29.jpg

No you must be mistaken.

68816419:
Kenyans can never build any meaningful city from scratch, even the Nairobi that was planned and built by the British is been rundown by the black Kenyans.

Exactly

Shma2020:
Okay bro. Let's continue

Carry on

Shma2020:
Lol.

U’ve resorted to meme. SMH!!! Pathetic.

Shma2020:
Don't spoil the thread with this kind of stupidity.

If you can't argue with facts don't resort to posting old pics. You think your country is clean?

@oba, control this nigga or we'll start posting that integrated slumbolium

Nigga, I argue with facts, can you show us how estates in, Eastliegh BuruBuru, or even any areas in Nairobi's East land looks like?

68816419:
Nigga, I argue with facts, can you show us how estates in, Eastliegh BuruBuru, or even any areas in Nairobi's East land looks like?

Show us Makoko and Sambisa forest first. Lead the charge slowpoke...

I used to think you understood even the BASICs of economic.

Nigeria's education system is total crap.

What was capped was a rate ABOVE or Below THE BASE RATE. That is normally bank profit margins - they borrow from depositors and central banks - and make money from the margins above the base rate.

For Lending - that was 4 percent above the base rate. That time base rate was 8.5 (it changes every few months) - so typical banks were allowed to max charge at 13.5 -(8.5) plus 4- ( Nigeria max now is 30 percent shocking!!). The same for deposit - I think it was 2 percent below the base rate.
So Kenya commercial banks could lend max of 4 percent above the base rate - and pay depositors 2 percent below the base.

When capping was remove the lending has remain at 13-15 percent - so basically we are doing fine - IMF or not - we already knew it was bad because private lending had reduced.

PLEASE understand Base Rate/Money Supply Rate/Central Bank Rate. In normal countries it determine many things.

Kenya historical interest rates are available - both the base rate and commercial rate - rarely has it gone beyond 15 percent -except in 93/94 when Kenya had serious economic crisis as donors who then funded more than 50 percent of kenya budget then - withdrew aid - throwing Kenya economy into a spin - starting with forex shortage.

At kenya worst in 93/94 - we saw Nigeira normal interest rate of 30 max.

Kenya when some banks went to 20 percent ( I think it was oil crisis or forex risk) - people nearly revolted - hence the capping.

In any case many kenyans take loans from saccos - which normally do 11 percent - and saving rate of 9 percent.

That is why kenya cooperative is largest in Africa.

We cannot borrow at above 15 percent - serious money - and hope to make a profit. It TOTAL BONKers. shylock rates.

obaaderemi:
Clearly you don't know much about interest rates.
Your government capped interest rates at 4% and your banks responded by refusing to lend to small businesses. Then IMF forced Uhuru to remove the cap on interest rates and within a few months it went up to 7% or so but your banks are lending at 12% to businesses.

Now in Nigeria, from the link you sent, the prime rates for most of our banks is around 11% for most industries they lend to. Some are even as low as 5%!
So you see why we have a bigger private sector and agricultural sector than Kenya.

Of course you can't expect our banks to be careless with their money and not have a maximum lending rate which applies to risky loans.

I guess some of these reasons are why our banks will always be bigger than yours and why some of them are already buying your banks in Kenya when you can't afford to have banks in West Africa. You would rather go to Somalia and Uganda.

68816419:
Nigga, I argue with facts, can you show us how estates in, Eastliegh BuruBuru, or even any areas in Nairobi's East land looks like?

Why not karen, muthaiga, lavington, kitisuru, runda, kileleshewa, kilimani etc
Zombie ?

68816419:
Kenyans can never build any meaningful city from scratch, even the Nairobi that was planned and built by the British is been rundown by the black Kenyans.

Kenya 4 times less your population has done what your failed country can never do.

You can keep screaming buy you won't change any fact nigro.

https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/KEN
Kenya 2021 Projected Real GDP (% Change) : 7.6

Again the less we talk about Nigeria macroeconomics the better for you

obaaderemi:
Please provide links to show that Kenya's GDP is forecast to grow at 8% this year.
Meanwhile, it is clear your debt issue is worse than Nigeria's. You've gone to the IMF more times than Nigeria and you have begged for debt rescheduling. Who begs to have his debt rescheduled if not a broke man?
Meanwhile, this is what you should be doing instead of arguing with me on things you don't know:

Vlain:
Nope tatu wouldn’t have central business district,just homes and factories with a few schools.

Alaro would embody the true meaning of a functional city with a central business district for commercial,retail,high end stores and the like.however the cbd choose to come he it in skyscrapers or low density building is not an issue to me.so long as it has a city center Igor booming business activities then I am okay. Tatu is just a regular estate with a factory twist to it.

I did u the honour of logging into the site of the company that designed both alaro and tatu city.
Here is the renderings forbtatu cities CBD.

U keep on saying something like tatu city is only an estate with a couple of factories. Even tho a simple search will tell u it is multi use.
I just got information that there would even be a mall in tatu city CBD.

Here are the links read for ur self
https://www.som.com/projects/tatu_city_central_business_district

Shma2020:
Kenya 4 times less your population has done what your failed country can never do.

You can keep screaming buy you won't change any fact nigro.

Lol, have you been able to build New functional cities( Abuja, Eko Atlantic, Banana island...), What about massive Infrastructures such as the 2nd longest bridge in Africa and other massive road infrastructures, can we even talk about world class stadiums, industries, New international airports and so on.
Nigga, Kenya to Nigeria is what a son is to his father.

68816419:
Lol, have you been able to build New functional cities( Abuja, Eko Atlantic, Banana island...), What about massive Infrastructures such as the 2nd longest bridge in Africa and other massive road infrastructures, can we even talk about world class stadiums, industries, New international airports and so on.
Nigga, Kenya to Nigeria is what a son is to his father.

And all this is something to pe proud of for an oil producing country.

This is undoubtedly the longest and the best expressway in Sub-Sahara Africa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ8g2UmnDeQ

68816419:
Lol, have you been able to build New functional cities( Abuja, Eko Atlantic, Banana island...), What about massive Infrastructures such as the 2nd longest bridge in Africa and other massive road infrastructures, can we even talk about world class stadiums, industries, New international airports and so on.
Nigga, Kenya to Nigeria is what a son is to his father.

Are you not ashamed of yourself? With your huge population and resources and still screaming about 3 projects!

Anyway, stay tuned. I will be posting pictures of mega projects as we move.

Shma2020:
This is undoubtedly the longest and the best expressway in Sub-Sahara Africa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ8g2UmnDeQ

Outside South Africa

Shma2020:
Are you not ashamed of yourself? With your huge population and resources and still screaming about 3 projects!

Anyway, stay tuned. I will be posting pictures of mega projects as we move.

3 projects?

Kenya economic recovery on course despite covid. My prediction is that Kenya will hit 320-350B by 2030 - joining the upper-middle-class countries.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-05/kenya-forecasts-economy-to-expand-at-fastest-pace-in-a-decade?utm_source=twitter&utm_content=africa&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-africa

PROVERBZ:
I did u the honour of logging into the site of the company that designed both alaro and tatu city.
Here is the renderings forbtatu cities CBD.

U keep on saying something like tatu city is only an estate with a couple of factories. Even tho a simple search will tell u it is multi use.
I just got information that there would even be a mall in tatu city CBD.

Here are the links read for ur self
https://www.som.com/projects/tatu_city_central_business_district

Tatu selected som 9 years ago to design a plan for them,they submitted like other design companies and tatu selected- get the difference. That doesn’t mean they went with their design.

Mkenya2019:
Kenya economic recovery on course despite covid. My prediction is that Kenya will hit 320-350B by 2030 - joining the upper-middle-class countries.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-05/kenya-forecasts-economy-to-expand-at-fastest-pace-in-a-decade?utm_source=twitter&utm_content=africa&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-africa

How talented are your musicians?

HellVictorinho:
How talented are your musicians?

Musicians cannot supply Nigeria with adequate electricity.

gallivant:
Musicians cannot supply Nigeria with adequate electricity.

Diversion doesn't mean you are making sense


What is even the essence of electricity in the absence of something that involves its use?

Vipingo city in Mombasa.

gallivant:
Musicians cannot supply Nigeria with adequate electricity.

entertainment is another sector on its own.
While Nigerian youth with the little electricity they have are exploring their options in the entertainment industry, getting invited to kenya to perform for some mula, Kenyan youth are under Nigerian music videos and making comments like 'i want an igbo husband' I'm Kenyan but I feel nigerian' 'black excellence' 'nigeria makes the best music, I'm Kenyan show me love with some likes' 'any other Kenyan here?'

Vipingo leisure center.

Vipingo Residencial area.

More estates in vipingo.