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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Janosky: 9:57pm On Aug 06, 2021
Emusan:
Where was it stated that Jesus is the Angel of Jehovah.

But it was stated clearly that Gabriel is the Angel of Jehovah.

So are you saying Jesus is now Gabriel?
Juxtapose Hosea 12:3-4 & John 1:1 Greek interlinear screenshot.
Is Jesus the word the God?

"Emusan go dodge the Bible truth as usual."
Yes ,he did. He no fall my hand.

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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58pm On Aug 06, 2021
Have you come to show everyone the proof of the allegation? smiley

Emusan:
You mean Williams Tyndale isn't a Trinitarian?
This your delusion has graduated to another level.
Tyndale included 1 John 5:7 in his Bible
So what exactly are you insinuating about Tyndale?
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:02pm On Aug 06, 2021
Janosky:
Juxtapose Hosea 12:3-4 & John 1:1 Greek interlinear screenshot.
Is Jesus the word the God?

"Emusan go dodge the Bible truth as usual."
Yes ,he did. He no fall my hand.

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One thing people know you for on this forum is that you never make any sense because your points always go off the subject matter.

Hosea and John have nothing in common.

Jesus is the word of God, any problem with that?
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:02pm On Aug 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Have you come to show everyone the proof of the allegation? smiley
As you blind that's why you didn't see the proof.
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Janosky: 10:08pm On Aug 06, 2021
Emusan:
One thing people know you for on this forum is that you never make any sense because your points always go off the subject matter.

Hosea and John have nothing in common.

Jesus is the word of God, any problem with that?
Both Men are JEHOVAH'S Servants inspired by the same God to write down your Bible.

Emusan LIENUS
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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09pm On Aug 06, 2021
Janosky:
Yet , your Trinitarian mentors burnt him to ashes.
He doesn't understand a single thing due to his hatred for JWs!

I said Trinitarians were trying to stop people from finding out their secrets the ọ̀dẹ̀ is talking about being a Trinitarian!

Even Russell and his team were trinitarians before the light got brighter when they had freedom of speech, expression and worship.
He doesn't know that the real Pharisees aren't interested in the truth they just want to keep their old tradition whether it's yielding positive results or not! smiley
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:11pm On Aug 06, 2021
Janosky:
Both Men are JEHOVAH'S Servants inspired by the same God to write down your Bible.

Emusan LIENUS
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As usual attacking strawman.

JaNosense
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13pm On Aug 06, 2021
You accused someone OK where is the evidence? You promised to bring it and up till now you can't. Instead of apologizing you're still arrogant over the false accusations.
Well i'm not surprised you've proved to be an accuser from day one.
So until you provide the evidence of your allegations or apologize remain patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley

Emusan:
As you blind that's why you didn't see the proof.
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:18pm On Aug 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
He doesn't understand a single thing due to his hatred for JWs!
Just as your hatred for the king of Glory, King of Kings, The ONLY TRUE and Wise God, Our Savior Jesus Christ is taking sleep away from your eyes.

I said Trinitarians were trying to stop people from finding out their secrets the ọ̀dẹ̀ is talking about being a Trinitarian!
Oponu....if Trinitarian are trying to keep people away from their secrets, why was Williams Tyndale Bible so close 99% with Other Trinitarian Bibles we have today than your demonic translation?

Even Russell and his team were trinitarians before the light got brighter when they had freedom of speech, expression and worship.
The light got brighter yet they still DIED as idol worshippers.

He doesn't know that the real Pharisees aren't interested in the truth they just want to keep their old tradition whether it's yielding positive results or not! smiley
Of course we know the real Pharisees here, who always twist the scripture.

To the essence of say ALL ANGELS ARE EXCERT IMPRINT OF GOD'S IMAGE.

Something that even your demonic organization can never claimed.

Lamentations! Our teachings don't yield positive results yet we are more in than your demonic organization of over 100years with fruitless efforts just because they're not ABIDE IN JESUS.
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:23pm On Aug 06, 2021
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Emusan:
Just as your hatred for the king of Glory, King of Kings, The ONLY TRUE and Wise God, Our Savior Jesus Christ is taking sleep away from your eyes. Oponu....if Trinitarian are trying to keep people away from their secrets, why was Williams Tyndale Bible so close 99% with Other Trinitarian Bibles we have today than your demonic translation? The light got brighter yet they still DIED as idol worshippers.
Of course we know the real Pharisees here, who always twist the scripture.
To the essence of say ALL ANGELS ARE EXCERT IMPRINT OF GOD'S IMAGE. Something that even your demonic organization can never claimed.Lamentations! Our teachings don't yield positive results yet we are more in than your demonic organization of over 100years with fruitless efforts just because they're not ABIDE IN JESUS.

Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:24pm On Aug 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
You accused someone OK where is the evidence? You promised to bring it and up till now you can't. Instead of apologizing you're still arrogant over the false accusations.
Well i'm not surprised you've proved to be an accuser from day one.
So until you provide the evidence of your allegations or apologize remain patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley
Mr Ponzi scheme promoter, you don't know anything.

If I didn't see that on your DEACTIVATED ACCOUNT I won't say it, so you can continue to say jargons.

Well like I do say, I didn't force you to reply my post but just to be exposing your lies. So if you want evidence that Matthew 7:7 is perfectly for you.

Imagine, the deluded even talking about apologizing cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:24pm On Aug 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
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Who asked you to talk before?

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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Aug 06, 2021
Please brother Janosky Emusan derive pleasure in exchanging words with JWs so don't give him that satisfaction! cheesy
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:30pm On Aug 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Please brother Janosky Emusan derive pleasure in exchanging words with JWs so don't give him that satisfaction! cheesy
You can keep consoling yourself

I've had different discussion with different people on this forum even before you dream of becoming a member on Nairaland and I'll continue.

Even the person you're advising knows better than you.
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Janosky: 10:31pm On Aug 06, 2021
Emusan:
As usual attacking strawman.

JaNosense

Emusan:


One thing people know you for on this forum is that you never make any sense because your points always go off the subject matter.

Hosea and John have nothing in common.
The man who lied that Hosea and John have nothing in common.
Emusan LIENUS says Both Hosea and John were not inspired by God to write the Bible Emusan hides in his locker.

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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:33pm On Aug 06, 2021
Janosky:
The man who lied that Hosea and John have nothing in common.
Emusan LIENUS says Both Hosea and John were not inspired by God to write the Bible Emusan hides in his locker.

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Just see how you keep exposing your ignorance as usual.

You quoted Hosea 12:3-4 & John 1:1 which is what I referred to as they don't have ANYTHING IN COMMON.

Just see ignorance speaking.

O ma se oooooooo.... The great JaNosense!

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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Janosky:
Emusan:
**1
Just as your hatred for the king of Glory, King of Kings, The ONLY TRUE and Wise God, Our Savior Jesus Christ is taking sleep away from your eyes.

**2
Oponu....if Trinitarian are trying to keep people away from their secrets, why was Williams Tyndale Bible so close 99% with Other Trinitarian Bibles we have today than your demonic translation?
**1
Continue DECEIVING yourself,Mr LIENUS.
You have proven to this public forum that Jesus words @ John 20:17 & Revelation 3:12 did not reach your heart.
It ended on the pages of your Bible.

**2
Let's use Trinitarian Amplified Bible to compare William Tyndale's Bible.
I have given you the example of 1 Timothy 3:16.

Others are 1 John 5:7, Genesis 16:7,Malachi 3:1, Matthew 6:13. Mark 9:43.Amplified Bible.
I challenge you Emusan to produce evidence that William Tyndale's Bible agreed with the Greek1 rendition of the Trinitarian Amplified Bible in the examples given
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1 Timothy 3:16
16 And great, we confess, is the mystery [the hidden truth] of godliness:
He (Jesus Christ) who was revealed in human flesh,"


Emusan:
Of course we know the real Pharisees here, who always twist the scripture.

To the essence of say ALL ANGELS ARE EXCERT IMPRINT OF GOD'S IMAGE.

Something that even your demonic organization can never claimed.

[s]Lamentations! Our teachings don't yield positive results yet we are more in than your demonic organization of over 100years with fruitless efforts just because they're not ABIDE IN JESUS.[/s]
Mr LIENUS grin

Genesis 1:26 JEHOVAH said "let us make man"
JEHOVAH spoke to Jesus Christ the morning Star & angel of the Lord (Rev 22:16, Gen16:7,13) in the presence of other angels @ Job 38:1-7, who ALL saw the Creation of man & the earth.
Numbers 23:19, " God is NOT a man that tell lies."
@ Genesis 1:27, Job 38:1-7, Isaiah 44:24 & Proverbs 8:26. 1 Corinthians 8:6. Jehovah did NOT lie.


Jesus Christ is NOT the Creator.
Romans 11:35-36,JEHOVAH is the Creator of Jesus Christ
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No twisting, This is Scriptural fact.
@Genesis 1:26-27.Job 38:1-7, angels are imprint of God's image.
"To the essence of say ALL ANGELS ARE EXCERT IMPRINT OF GOD'S IMAGE".

Genesis 1:26-7.Job 38:1-7, Isaiah 44:24 etc.
JWs can NEVER challenge Scriptural authority.
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Janosky: 11:44pm On Aug 06, 2021
Emusan:
Where was it stated that Jesus is the Angel of Jehovah.

But it was stated clearly that Gabriel is the Angel of Jehovah.

So are you saying Jesus is now Gabriel?
Matthew 26:53, Does Jehovah have only one angel?

Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible , write to your fellow Triune deity translators & don't forget to send your inquiry to publishers of Geneva Bible.
You don't trust the Bible well enough,
Your fellow Triune deities devotees will convince you shepaly.
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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 10:57am On Aug 07, 2021
Janosky:
[s]**1 Continue DECEIVING yourself,Mr LIENUS.
You have proven to this public forum that Jesus words @ John 20:17 & Revelation 3:12 did not reach your heart.
It ended on the pages of your Bible.[/s]
As usual very shallow and incoherent reasoning and application of Scripture.

**2
Let's use Trinitarian Amplified Bible to compare William Tyndale's Bible.
I have given you the example of 1 Timothy 3:16.

Others are 1 John 5:7, Genesis 16:7,Malachi 3:1, Matthew 6:13. Mark 9:43.Amplified Bible.
I challenge you Emusan to produce evidence that William Tyndale's Bible agreed with the Greek1 rendition of the Trinitarian Amplified Bible in the examples given
. grin grin grin grin

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And great, we confess, is the mystery [the hidden truth] of godliness:
He (Jesus Christ) who was revealed in human flesh,"
Oponu the great JaNosense!

I said Williams Tyndale Bible agreed with 99% of Trinitarian Bibles ,can you see the reason why you're a deluded and ignorant somebody?

So Amplified Bible is part of 1%

Now, why did the same Williams Tyndale Bible so DEFER from your NWT demonic translation?


Mr LIENUS grin

Genesis 1:26 JEHOVAH said "let us make man"
JEHOVAH spoke to Jesus Christ the morning Star & angel of the Lord (Rev 22:16, Gen16:7,13) in the presence of other angels @ Job 38:1-7, who ALL saw the Creation of man & the earth.
Numbers 23:19, " God is NOT a man that tell lies."
@ Genesis 1:27, Job 38:1-7, Isaiah 44:24 & Proverbs 8:26. 1 Corinthians 8:6. Jehovah did NOT lie.
JaNosense, I wonder how you pass your O'level and I just pray your children won't inherit this dumbness.

I'm still looking for where Bible called Jesus ANGEL, just your delusional idea.

Jesus Christ is NOT the Creator.
But Jehovah used him to CREATE other things

Is this not self deceit?

Romans 11:35-36,JEHOVAH is the Creator of Jesus Christ grin grin grin grin
No twisting, This is Scriptural fact.
@Genesis 1:26-27.Job 38:1-7, angels are imprint of God's image.
"To the essence of say ALL ANGELS ARE EXCERT IMPRINT OF GOD'S IMAGE".
And Jesus created you....which means He is your creator.

Genesis 1:26-7.Job 38:1-7, Isaiah 44:24 etc.
JWs can NEVER challenge Scriptural authority.
But forcing scripture to say Jesus is archangel Michael, isn't that a granular delusion?
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 11:01am On Aug 07, 2021
Janosky:
Matthew 26:53, Does Jehovah have only one angel?

Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible , write to your fellow Triune deity translators & don't forget to send your inquiry to publishers of Geneva Bible.
You don't trust the Bible well enough,
Your fellow Triune deities devotees will convince you shepaly.
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I just love the way you're exposing your shameless lying mouth here.

The question is, where did the scripture says Jesus is Michael? You haven't be able to provide that.

You can keep salivating on your ignorance, the same Amplified Bible and Geneva Bible say Jesus is God, and Jesus can't be both God and Angel, definitely it's your wack tiny brain that couldn't grab their messages as usual cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:12am On Aug 07, 2021
Emusan:
You can keep consoling yourself
I've had different discussion with different people on this forum even before you dream of becoming a member on Nairaland and I'll continue.Even the person you're advising knows better than you.
Of course brother Janosky is one of my bosses in the faith, that's why i'm imploring him not to waste the precious pearls throwing it at you rather he should search for individuals (like me) who will value and make good use of the pearls! wink
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 11:16am On Aug 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Of course he's one of my bosses in the faith, that's why i'm imploring him not to waste the precious pearls throwing it at you rather he should search for individuals (like me) who will make good use of the pearls! wink
Still using backyard to reply my post in return boycotting my question, I understand sir, lass lass you'll be alright! cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:19am On Aug 07, 2021
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Emusan:
Still using backyard to reply my post in return boycotting my question, I understand sir, lass lass you'll be alright! cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Truvelisback(m): 11:20am On Aug 07, 2021
sagenaija:
Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3CTkXnOS1g

From about 31mins:
Melchizedek was not Jesus Christ for the following reasons:
1. He lived when Abraham had contact with the pre-incarnate Christ
Gen. 12:1 - "Now the LORD (Yahweh) said to Abraham,...."
Ex. 3:2 - "The Angel of the LORD appeared to him..."
Ex. 3:6 "He said "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob". Then Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God".
Ex. 3:13 - "Then Moses said to God...."
Ex. 3:14 - "And God said to Moses "I am who I am"; and he said "You shall say this to the Israelites, 'I am has sent me to you' ".
Jesus used the same title:
Jn.8: 56-59 - "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day. He saw it and was delighted. Then the Jews said to him, "You are not even fifty years old, and you claim to have seen Abraham?". Jesus replied, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, before Abraham was born, I am".
Therefore they picked up stones to throw at him .....

2. Melchizedek was a man
a) Hebrews 7: 4
b) Jesus Christ was not a man prior to his incarnation. Jn. 1:15, Jn. 1:1

3. a) Melchizedek was mortal
b) Jesus Christ was immortal Heb. 1:12

4. a) Melchizedek was a localized and a physical king of a city.
b) The pre-incarnate Christ was never localized.

5. a) Jesus Christ, the Great 'I Am', the Jehovah God, the Angel of the LORD, spoke to Abraham before he had war with the 5 kings. Gen. 12:1 - "Now the LORD had said to Abram ..."
b) Moses confirmed that Jesus had an encounter with Abraham. Ex. 3:2 & 6, Gen. 12:1
c) The Angel of the LORD is Jesus Christ who met Abraham in the Ur of the Chaldeans - Gen. 12:1. Abraham met Jesus in the Ur of the Chaldeans. Few months later he met Melchizedek in Salem. The person Abraham met in Ur could not be the same person who was already residing in Salem.

Therefore on the basis of these facts, we are forced to reject the notion that Melchizedek was Jesus Christ. He was like him, but he was not Jesus Christ.
The Bible says he(Melchizedek) has no father nor mother. And u said he was a man. How did he come into existence? Did he fall from heaven? Don't teach what u don't know.
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 11:23am On Aug 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
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And you'll always be in the mood of corona smile.

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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:23am On Aug 07, 2021
He's right!
Melchizedek was a man but since he's proving stubborn i'll allow him handle the situation himself! wink


Truvelisback:
The Bible says he(Melchizedek) has no father nor mother. And u said he was a man. How did he come into existence? Did he fall from heaven? Don't teach what u don't know.
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 11:24am On Aug 07, 2021
Truvelisback:
The Bible says he(Melchizedek) has no father nor mother. And u said he was a man. How did he come into existence? Did he fall from heaven? Don't teach what u don't know.
So who is Melchizedek?
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:25am On Aug 07, 2021
Emusan:
And you'll always be in the mood of corona smile. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
My friend and i got it and we both survived it that's why we're always smiling the Corona way! wink
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 11:26am On Aug 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
He's right!
Melchizedek was a man but since he's proving stubborn i'll allow him handle the situation himself! wink
He is right BUT proving STUBBORN,

What a contradictory statement.

Anyways, he is proving stubborn to you or your 8 old men in New York?
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Emusan(m): 11:27am On Aug 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
My friend and i got it and we both survived it that's why we're always smiling the Corona way! wink
And you can't use your own picture or that of your friend.

Like is said, keep be in the mood of corona smile.

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Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Truvelisback(m): 11:36am On Aug 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
He's right!
Melchizedek was a man but since he's proving stubborn i'll allow him handle the situation himself! wink
How was he a man? How is he proving stubborn? How can u handle the situation?
Re: Who Is Melchizedek? - Jesus Christ? by Truvelisback(m): 11:45am On Aug 07, 2021
Emusan:
So who is Melchizedek?
Melchizedek was a Spirit and not a human. He possibly(Jesus) reincarnated as a man. The Bible stated it clearly that he had no father nor mother and no human came to this world without having parents.
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