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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 3:18pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Althetics - kenya took position 3 worldwide. While Ghana won a bronze first time since 1992 - in boxing. Nigeria - got a silver and bronze - for the 200m people. South Africa - only 3 medals.
Lol in sport again u are bringing in this ur per capita madness . Smh!!!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 3:21pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Why such a difference in performance? I think schools are funded by provincial gov - so they cannot be uniform.
The amount if a fund a student get from government is equal across provinces.

Limpopo was stuggling as a province for years bit its back on track now... Limpopo is also know for producing good marks in Maths, Science/physics and accounting. They produce the brightest minds in SA.

In fact the freestate province, Gauteng, northwest province has been juggling for best performing province, Western cape ladt held the number 1 spot almost a decade ago
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 3:23pm On Aug 08, 2021
Vlain:
So true.
SA 5th best is bigger than entire kenya banking sector grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 3:25pm On Aug 08, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
SA 5th best is bigger than entire kenya banking sector grin
Facts
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 3:28pm On Aug 08, 2021
Vlain:
Facts
Watch the come with insults and giving identities grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 3:29pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Kenya middle class kids go to private mostly boarding school - where studying is even worse - because kenya compete for good public secondary schools and universities. it only a few that can afford international schooling that kids relax.

Most kenyans take their kids to boarding school as early as 3rd grade - the boarding schools need to ace their exams - so they extract as much as they can from the students - long hours of studying is almost a given.

When it comes to Intl schools - definitely kenya is Africa leader - with 150 such schools
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/lifestyle/society/boarding-schools-attraction-for-foreigners-3327818
There are at least 150 international schools in Kenya, according to the Kenya Association of International Schools (KAIS), teaching both 8-4-4 or Competency based Curriculum (CBC) and international curricula of their choice.

On average, international schools educate about 200,000 Kenyans. Further, the department of immigration processes on average 20,000 student passes every year, with the bulk of those being for students attending international schools,” said Jane Mwangi, secretariat coordinator of the KAIS.

The lobby group for elite private schools states that the rise in the number of international students has been driven by increased expats due to its regional and logistics hub status.

This also due to the high number of consulates, embassies and foreign-owned companies.

“Kenya is arguably the international school hub of Africa. We have seen a great rise in students coming from East and West Africa,” said Ms Mwangi.
Since when was going to an international school a metric of knowledge I know people who went to the British international school here in South Africa who are idiots.


And in any case I asked where are the Kenyans who go straight to the top universities in foreign countries without any foreign education as in straight from Kenyan secondary school to Harvard with a full scholarship such happens in Nigeria every year very often and many of my family members on both sides have even attended oxford business schoo, harvard, cambridge and other of the top universities in the world I hope when the time comes I will also make it into those universities
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 3:33pm On Aug 08, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Dude even in england schools can never be equally funded or equally equipped the schools in metros cities towns will be better equipped than those in rural areas.

Actually why are we even speaking about private schools? My emphasis was on public schools that SA using same curriculum at a public school in Sandton and one in Qunu in EC.

Elon musk went to a public school, also to a public university. Infact 90% wealthy people attend public schools
Now that is a massive lie all of the people I know in South Africa or wealthy and only one of them sends their children to a public school the rest is private whether it be St David's Marist, St Stitihians, St Peter, Hilton, Michaelhouse, St Andrews etc. And your claim is false I left South African Education system to school in England, The private school I attend is close to a public school and both have massive sports hall, both have two big main school buildings the only difference is that my private school is boarding and it has more land on it apart from that theyare the exact same and keep in mind they are about a 45 minutes drive away from any major city so it's basically countryside
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:44pm On Aug 08, 2021
I never said attending international school is a metric - of knowledge. It only make sense if youre looking for kids to have an international experience - multicultural settings - or like me when you are moving around - I cannot take my kid to south africa public school - then next year I change them to Nigeria school.

I think in terms of IVY league - kenya leads or equal Nigeria - despite the population difference. These are mostly poor kenyan kids graduating from high school.


Abohboy:
Since when was going to an international school a metric of knowledge I know people who went to the British international school here in South Africa who are idiots.


And in any case I asked where are the Kenyans who go straight to the top universities in foreign countries without any foreign education as in straight from Kenyan secondary school to Harvard with a full scholarship such happens in Nigeria every year very often and many of my family members on both sides have even attended oxford business schoo, harvard, cambridge and other of the top universities in the world I hope when the time comes I will also make it into those universities
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 3:45pm On Aug 08, 2021
Abohboy:
Since when was going to an international school a metric of knowledge I know people who went to the British international school here in South Africa who are idiots.


And in any case I asked where are the Kenyans who go straight to the top universities in foreign countries without any foreign education as in straight from Kenyan secondary school to Harvard with a full scholarship such happens in Nigeria every year very often and many of my family members on both sides have even attended oxford business schoo, harvard, cambridge and other of the top universities in the world I hope when the time comes I will also make it into those universities
Aint you in university?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 3:48pm On Aug 08, 2021
Abohboy:
Now that is a massive lie all of the people I know in South Africa or wealthy and only one of them sends their children to a public school the rest is private whether it be St David's Marist, St Stitihians, St Peter, Hilton, Michaelhouse, St Andrews etc. And your claim is false I left South African Education system to school in England, The private school I attend is close to a public school and both have massive sports hall, both have two big main school buildings the only difference is that my private school is boarding and it has more land on it apart from that theyare the exact same and keep in mind they are about a 45 minutes drive away from any major city so it's basically countryside
Read my message again
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 3:57pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
I never said attending international school is a metric - of knowledge. It only make sense if youre looking for kids to have an international experience - multicultural settings - or like me when you are moving around - I cannot take my kid to south africa public school - then next year I change them to Nigeria school.

I think in terms of IVY league - kenya leads or equal Nigeria - despite the population difference. These are mostly poor kenyan kids graduating from high school.
Show me one report of a Kenyan going to an Ivy League school every year from September till March the front page of Nairaland is filled with Nigerian girl or boy or whatever wins competition and gains scholarship to insert oxbridge or ivy league school i've never seen the same for Kenya though
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 3:58pm On Aug 08, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Aint you in university?
Nah G secondary School
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 3:58pm On Aug 08, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Read my message again
You said 90% of wealthy people send their kids to public schools a clear lie
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:59pm On Aug 08, 2021
Kenya is not Nigeria where going to Yale or Harvard is big deal - Kenyans went to Yale, Oxfords and such in 1950s.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/kenya-ranked-top-african-country-in-students-intake-at-yale-university

Kenya has cemented its position as the top African country with the largest number of students admitted yearly to the prestigious Yale University in the United States.

Data from the university indicates that 24 Kenyan students have been accepted to study at the institution this year, ahead of Nigeria’s 23, Zimbabwe (18), Ghana (17) and South Africa (16).

Abohboy:
Show me one report of a Kenyan going to an Ivy League school every year from September till March the front page of Nairaland is filled with Nigerian girl or boy or whatever wins competition and gains scholarship to insert oxbridge or ivy league school i've never seen the same for Kenya though
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:02pm On Aug 08, 2021
Kenya went to Ivy league in 1950s under the John Kennedy Airlift programme - it's not big deal anymore. The likes of obama father were there in 1960s. At least 800 kenyans were taken to best US universities then

The first Kenyan to go to Harvard was renowned media personality, Hilary Ng'weno. He joined the institution in 1957 to study nuclear physics, never mind there were not many industries at the time in Kenya. He would later return to Kenya in 1962, becoming Kenya’s youngest editor-in-chief at Nation in 1965 and went back to the US as the first African fellow of the Harvard Center for International Affairs between 1968 and ’69.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 4:14pm On Aug 08, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Just few days ago he said SA banking has 400b in assets

In reality its over half a trillion dollars
The only reason I respond to his half truth comebacks is to prevent him from misleading others. And of course to burst his ego. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 4:16pm On Aug 08, 2021
kikuyu1:
Apart from YOUR inability to appreciate the OBVIOUS and constant lying you have no honour!
Black MOFO, the list is a decade old! FK OFF!?
Bring your own list, fool. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 4:19pm On Aug 08, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Informal sector is very important holds a lot of money

Ive seen, its unfortunate in SA its not counted in employment figures, unregulated,... Anyway story for another day

But informal sector is very important part of economy,
The unregulated informal sector is where the real money is. It's the backbone of any economy in Africa and the main source of employment.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:20pm On Aug 08, 2021
Kenya SGR

As of July 31, 2021, over 5.84 million passengers had been transported. During the same period, over 1.389 million TEUs were transported safely, as Africa Star Railway Operation Company (Afristar), the SGR operator, ensured the safety of goods and passengers on transit. Afristar had so far operated the SGR Safely for 1523 days as of July 31, 2021.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:23pm On Aug 08, 2021
Its the reason why Africa is under-developed. Countries should try to formalize it and grow into SME. In any developed country SMES - are the backbone of the economy.

How do you convert Informal sector to MSMES - by formalization - that allows those small informal business to grow into SMEs - few to grow into medium - and some to large corporation.

obaaderemi:
The unregulated informal sector is where the real money is. It's the backbone of any economy in Africa and the main source of employment.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:34pm On Aug 08, 2021
Abohboy:
You said 90% of wealthy people send their kids to public schools a clear lie
90% of wealthy people attended public schools
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:36pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Kenya went to Ivy league in 1950s under the John Kennedy Airlift programme - it's not big deal anymore. The likes of obama father were there in 1960s. At least 800 kenyans were taken to best US universities then

The first Kenyan to go to Harvard was renowned media personality, Hilary Ng'weno. He joined the institution in 1957 to study nuclear physics, never mind there were not many industries at the time in Kenya. He would later return to Kenya in 1962, becoming Kenya’s youngest editor-in-chief at Nation in 1965 and went back to the US as the first African fellow of the Harvard Center for International Affairs between 1968 and ’69.
You are aware we talking about 21st century, right? wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:38pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Kenya is not Nigeria where going to Yale or Harvard is big deal - Kenyans went to Yale, Oxfords and such in 1950s.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/kenya-ranked-top-african-country-in-students-intake-at-yale-university

Kenya has cemented its position as the top African country with the largest number of students admitted yearly to the prestigious Yale University in the United States.

Data from the university indicates that 24 Kenyan students have been accepted to study at the institution this year, ahead of Nigeria’s 23, Zimbabwe (18), Ghana (17) and South Africa (16).
You should be aware that south Africans prefer their own
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:39pm On Aug 08, 2021
Abohboy:
Nah G secondary School
I realized
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:39pm On Aug 08, 2021
South Africa best university is probably rank 500 in the world.
AfriqueDuZuid:
You should be aware that south Africans prefer their own
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:41pm On Aug 08, 2021
obaaderemi:
The unregulated informal sector is where the real money is. It's the backbone of any economy in Africa and the main source of employment.
But in most cases that's where illega stuff harbors

However when there's plans to tranform that , can be good source of revenue for the country?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:46pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
South Africa best university is probably rank 500 in the world.
South Africa has 5 universities in top 500

Best ranked is at 120 which is now bad considering the dominance of US and UK

Overall SA got 26 universities
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 4:48pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Nigerian banks did not consolidate becaue Obasanjo or Soludo wanted or loved it. They had to. They were broke. The country was broke. It was like kenya banks in 1990s - when we forced many small banks to collapse - and form a moribund bank consolidated bank of kenya.
You have lost this one as usual. grin
The banking consolidation took place because Obasanjo wanted it. Our banking sector then was like Kenya's banking sector today. We had big banks that didn't need any mergers and we had some weak and regional banks that were not doing well. Obasanjo, on advice from Soludo, wanted to change that so he increased the capital base. My own regional bank didn't even need to merge with any bank. It's still retaining its old Name till today. But some small banks got swallowed up by the big boys, pretty much the same way Nigeria's banks are swallowing up Kenya's banks today. grin
rvp20182:
Dr Ngozi was the engine of those reforms. Soludo was to execute and according to Dr Ngozi - she made HUGE MESS of that execution - it no wonder Nigeria banks charge 30 percent interest. WHO DOES THAT IN THE WORLD
Soludo was the man behind that consolidation. It had nothing to do with Ngozi. He was a starboy. Read up on Soludo's profile and weep. He outshone Ngozi, who was just a bureaucratic type.
If he made a mess of it, how come today our banks are some of the biggest in Africa and swallowing up Kenya's banks? tongue
rvp20182:
Now I am not going to waste my time btw some Soludo and world acclaimed Dr Ngozi - who saved you country.
cheesy Whether Ngozi or Soludo, they're both Nigerians, my son. You are free to contact Ngozi to save your country.
rvp20182:
All her efforts are now down the drain - Nigeria debt is back to the same places - maybe the banks are not collapsing - but they are no helping anybody with interest rates as high as 30 percent.
At least our debts are more sustainable than yours. We are not as indebted as Kenya and China and IMF are not holding us like they're holding Kenya by the balls.
When IMF brought the Debt Service Suspension Initiative, Kenya jumped at it, Nigeria rejected it. If you had not borrowed irresponsibly, you would have followed Nigeria's example. But Kenya is broke and resource poor.
rvp20182:
Nigeria banks expansion is hilarous is you ask me - strategic wise - but we shall see.
We are already seeing the results. Nigeria's banks are swallowing up Kenya's banks. wink
rvp20182:
Equity bank 10yrs ago - it assets were not even 2B dollars - now its 10B - and will hit 25B dollars by 2025 - beating any Nigerian bank.

Kenya banks are moving fast
I like your optimism. But it takes more than optimism to build banking sectors. It's about smart bankers and the size of the economy. Your GDP is too small even with all the cooking. $95bn is risible. Totally risible. grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:49pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Kenya is not Nigeria where going to Yale or Harvard is big deal - Kenyans went to Yale, Oxfords and such in 1950s.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/kenya-ranked-top-african-country-in-students-intake-at-yale-university

Kenya has cemented its position as the top African country with the largest number of students admitted yearly to the prestigious Yale University in the United States.

Data from the university indicates that 24 Kenyan students have been accepted to study at the institution this year, ahead of Nigeria’s 23, Zimbabwe (18), Ghana (17) and South Africa (16).
Also this is stats from one university
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 4:53pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Kenya went to Ivy league in 1950s under the John Kennedy Airlift programme - it's not big deal anymore. The likes of obama father were there in 1960s. At least 800 kenyans were taken to best US universities then

The first Kenyan to go to Harvard was renowned media personality, Hilary Ng'weno. He joined the institution in 1957 to study nuclear physics, never mind there were not many industries at the time in Kenya. He would later return to Kenya in 1962, becoming Kenya’s youngest editor-in-chief at Nation in 1965 and went back to the US as the first African fellow of the Harvard Center for International Affairs between 1968 and ’69.
So you don't really go there today is what your saying essentially meaning your students are not all that smart

And just last year a Nigerian was appointed as a proffesor in Harvard University by the way when it comes to education in America China, India and Nigeria are at the top
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:57pm On Aug 08, 2021
Let not get into useless polemeics. Your macro-economics are not working. Dr Ngozi saved your 18B dollars. She won international aclaim and is here in Geneva running WTO. Nobody knows Prof Soludo outside NIgeria.

Your banks are not working - but youre such a dysfunctional country - its probably the only thing with semblance of order. The interest rate they charge makes the cost of credit and business an impossibility.

You keep shouting about Kenya GDP when all facts are staring at you. Look at Kenya banks - in 10yrs - only one was in top 80 (your own data) and as we speak 10 - are now in top 10. 10yrs ago Kenya ports were handling about 0.5m TEUS - now its 1.5M TEUS. Pick any sector - kenya economy has trippled the last 10yrs. And has grown almost 10 times since 2005.Kenya taxes in 2005 - was merely 2B dollars - now it's approaching 17B dollars - total of 21B dollars (revenues) - that is almost 10 times. Kenya electricity connection was 0.4M - now it 8m - approaching 9m.

Kenya was not even top 10 economy - 10yrs ago - now it's 6th - and soon the 5th.

Kenya since 2005 - is growing very fast - and if we keep it for another decade - we will become a proper middle class country

obaaderemi:
You have lost this one as usual. grin
The banking consolidation took place because Obasanjo wanted it. Our banking sector then was like Kenya's banking sector today. We had big banks that didn't need any mergers and we had some weak and regional banks that were not doing well. Obasanjo, on advice from Soludo, wanted to change that so he increased the capital base. My own regional bank didn't even need to merge with any bank. It's still retaining its old Name till today. But some small banks got swallowed up by the big boys, pretty much the same way Nigeria's banks are swallowing up Kenya's banks today. grin
Soludo was the man behind that consolidation. It had nothing to do with Ngozi. He was a starboy. Read up on Soludo's profile and weep. He outshone Ngozi, who was just a bureaucratic type.
If he made a mess of it, how come today our banks are some of the biggest in Africa and swallowing up Kenya's banks? tongue
cheesy Whether Ngozi or Soludo, they're both Nigerians, my son. You are free to contact Ngozi to save your country.
At least our debts are more sustainable than yours. We are not as indebted as Kenya and China and IMF are not holding us like they're holding Kenya by the balls.
When IMF brought the Debt Service Suspension Initiative, Kenya jumped at it, Nigeria rejected it. If you had not borrowed irresponsibly, you would have followed Nigeria's example. But Kenya is broke and resource poor.
We are already seeing the results. Nigeria's banks are swallowing up Kenya's banks. wink
I like your optimism. But it takes more than optimism to build banking sectors. It's about smart bankers and the size of the economy. Your GDP is too small even with all the cooking. $95bn is risible. Totally risible. grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 4:59pm On Aug 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Kenya is not Nigeria where going to Yale or Harvard is big deal - Kenyans went to Yale, Oxfords and such in 1950s.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/kenya-ranked-top-african-country-in-students-intake-at-yale-university

Kenya has cemented its position as the top African country with the largest number of students admitted yearly to the prestigious Yale University in the United States.

Data from the university indicates that 24 Kenyan students have been accepted to study at the institution this year, ahead of Nigeria’s 23, Zimbabwe (18), Ghana (17) and South Africa (16).
See this Nigerians are at the top when it comes to ivy league admissions in America

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