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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by izzou(m): 5:32pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
donjazet: ![]()
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by TrebleChamp(m): 5:47pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Ihebu4chelsea:Bro i have Lukaku in my FPL, he must score plenty goal ooh... |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 5:50pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
TrebleChamp:at 11.5 he is pretty expensive. Werner was 9.5 his first season, now 9.0, but 11.5 for Lukaku that's high for a new player? |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donjazet(m): 5:50pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
izzou:To win FPL na mostly luck. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 5:51pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Ebukacute:Because of nomination? ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by TrebleChamp(m): 5:52pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:That's the spirit ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by TrebleChamp(m): 5:55pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:Yea but i looked at his goal threat, even replaced Kane for him cos i feel Kane may no be himself this season. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 5:55pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 5:56pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
TrebleChamp:shuooo hope say you buy Sancho plenty goals and assists |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by TrebleChamp(m): 5:59pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:Yes oo, Sancho, Son, Grealish dey there. Unfortunately no enough money to buy Bruno Modified: I don squeeze King Bruno in ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:17pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
DissTroy:Na wao.... This is not the answer to my question nah. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 6:23pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Jodera:If we are actually being honest, Jorginho isn't even the best midfielder at Chelsea - Kante is. Arguably Chelsea's best player. Why nobody is making a case for him or did so in 2018 beats me. Any top team would be glad to have him. To be sincere, if messi hadn't had this copa America effort, it would have been difficult to lay a claim on that balon dorBut he won it so the whataboutism and whatifs are just wishful thinking. I know it might be difficult to take, but your club progress is also a factor too not just solely individual statsClub progress: Copa Del Rey. UCL Quarterfinals. Tight League race and in top three. Individual statistics: Astronomical. And Balon is an individual award so go figure. So I ask... What's the difference between 2020/2021 messi exploit and 2017/2018 messi exploit assuming messi didn't win the copa America nor had such an exploit in it?What's the difference copper and Cu? Semantics but the same element. Again, he won the Copa America and not just win it but boss it in every statistics. And you can't take it away from him. There's no assumption to be had - he won it. Singular most outstanding player in any tournament this season (Euros and Copa).
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:23pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
The moment Lampard handed his No. 8 shirt to Kovacic ![]()
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:27pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Skimpledawg you sef don join FPL ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 6:31pm On Aug 13, 2021*. Modified: 7:57pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
timbros:You are going around in circles and deliberately ignoring the fact but I'd break it down. Your question was, if Messi as an attacker is being judged with goals and assists, what would a midfielder like Jorginho be judged with? I replied by staying Messi has always been judged with more than his goal contributions. A midfielder is supposed to be judged by indices such as pass completion date, dirbbles completed, take-ons, playmaking and even assists (but I'd deliberately ignore assists). I'd we judge Balon d'Or for midfield roles, Kante is even above Jorginho. Messi has bossed the very roles expected of a midfielder. Screw it! If you watch football games Messi features in closely in the last few years, you wouldn't even have asked me that question - Messi has been dropping deep to play as a midfielder too. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:51pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
DissTroy:You sha sabi shalaye ![]() Who is going round in circles (not even one circle, you say circles )? Was I the one debating with you since? Just one question and you say I dey go around in circles.... Your shalaye get levels o.I stopped reading the epistle up there when I see dribbles completed as one of your criteria of judging a midfielder. ![]() I go just withdraw here. I no get this kind of strength. Jodera over to you. ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by OJURONGBE1(m): 6:55pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Amoto94:Mendy- GK Dias - DF ( compensation) Kante - MF Mbappe - STR in that order with Ngolo Kante nicking the Best player . |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by NinjaMetahuman: 6:56pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 6:58pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
timbros:When you have facts to state, the words come easy. You are not tired - you lost. You have made more posts on this thread today than I have - that's not the sign of a tired person. You should learn to debate. I provided indices for judging midfielders which anyone can google; broke down how Messi surpassed Jorginho even in midfield roles, and stating Kante is the better midfielder in Chelsea. Like Sia said, another one bites the dust. Next jorginhoist?! |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by OJURONGBE1(m): 6:59pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
timbros:That shirt is too big for Kovacic. He doesn't score. He doesn't create . He cannot shoot. All he does is make short passes with no fruitful outcome. Bayern should come & take him and gift us Tolisso. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:59pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
DissTroy:OK. You win. Move over to the podium. Collect your medal. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 7:03pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 7:05pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
timbros:On the Messi side of life, mounting podiums and adorning medals are the norm. You all are making this too easy. Something like a tractor-drawn harvester in a maize farm. ![]()
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:07pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
DissTroy:1... Kante and Jorg are nominated for UCL best midfielder. If Jorginho wins it, it automatically means he was the best midfielder at Chelsea, not kante. This indeed was the premise of my Argument. 2... I didn't bring the whataboutism, you did. I said it was the copa America that makes Messi favorite for the balon dor but at least Jorginho fans will have a great point to hold on to if he wins best midfielder award. You said it Is false. I gave you reason why without his copa America exploits he wouldn't have been favorite, you disagreed by bringing in his 2012 win. When I debunked it with his 2018 loss to modric, which is exactly similar to 2021, you're now bringing Whataboutism.. Come on na... Haba ![]() I've always said that messi is the strongest favorite just cos his copa America (assuming jorg wins best midfielder). You disagreed saying without his copa America, he's still strong favorite by bringing out stats. 4... Club progress round of 16?? For a club like barca?? Don't make me laugh If you bring stats for messi, jorg has stats too for his midfield position(deep lying playmaker). And that stats will prove that he was very very influential in their cl win and Italy's euro win.. Anyways, kante has won it, so Jorginho balon dor shout in the mud ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:11pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
timbros: ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 7:13pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:So they actually gave kovacic the iconic lampards no 8 jersey .. why didn't they give havertz or someone else.. but kovacic no 8 really![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:13pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
DissTroy:You see what I'm saying?? ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Skimpledawg(m): 7:13pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
timbros: ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:18pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Skimpledawg:I'm interested to see your lineup ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Exonerate1(m): 7:18pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
My guy went from being compared with Horjbugger to Messi in just one month ![]()
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nani667: 7:19pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
#OleOUT
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 7:20pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Jodera:My earlier posts gave Kante credit. Kante is the most important midfielder for club and country, and in a quiet way, the most important player. There's no way anyone who compares the influence and season Messi has had to Jourginho's can convince me he or she didn't drink and bath salt water during the Ebola scare. |
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