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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:29am On Aug 14, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Insults, chest beating, name calling, false pretense, unverified news, hallucinations etc.

That one you won't win wink, that Shma is a pro on that

come later when well be dealing with real things, facts smiley wink
grin grin grin

you didn't add lies
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:30am On Aug 14, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Insults, chest beating, name calling, false pretense, unverified news, hallucinations etc.

That one you won't win wink, that Shma is a pro on that

come later when well be dealing with real things, facts smiley wink
grin grin grin

you didn't add lies
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:34am On Aug 14, 2021
Vipingo is not a village; Vipingo is large sisal estates owned by Rea Vipingo. Rea Vipingo is Africa largest sisal producer with estates in Kenya and Tanzania.The particular land lies btw Mombasa and Kilifi - you drive for almost 30kms of Vipingo sisal estate - touching the sea. They have more than 100,000 acres.

Centum bought shares of Vipingo targetting the land. Eventually when Rea Vipingo wanted to delisted - Centum refused - and demand some of land - they were given 10,000 acres worth 1Billion dollars

I bought into Centum's Two Rivers - all units in phase one have been sold out. The same for Vipingo city - all units already sold out.

Centum has 10,000 acres to go. They are selling beach front plots for 0.5M dollars. They have just done a few hundred of acres - but onces completed the 10,000 acres will host 200,000 people plus...the same as Tatu City.

Centum just made their first loss in decades thanks to COVID - otherwise Centum is a solid company - although the founder died this year - Chris Kirubi.
https://kikubolane.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/chris_kirubi_dead60c75096c1989.jpg
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:37am On Aug 14, 2021
Just30:
grin grin grin grin grin

it can be tirring

i feel, he must be educated on the differences between cities, towns, villages, districts, municipalities, metropolis and etc
Like my sister stays in a place with 7 malls, dozens of estate, huge hospitals, rail, leasure places, it has a huge manufacturing plants that supplies BMW, mercs, rollsroyce, toyota, VA, BRIDGESTONE ETC

YET we still regard it as a town not a city.

But i suppose that differs from country to country
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:40am On Aug 14, 2021
Just30:
grin grin grin

you didn't add lies
and that too

Rvp just comfirm Centum making losses
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:41am On Aug 14, 2021
Just30:
grin grin grin

you didn't add lies
I forgot grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:41am On Aug 14, 2021
Definition of a village


A village is a clustered human settlement or community, larger than a hamlet but smaller than a town (although the word is often used to describe both hamlets and smaller towns), with a population typically ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand.

A farming village is still a farming village until it reaches a town status
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:44am On Aug 14, 2021
Shackman nearly every company made losses in covid period. Making a loss doesnt mean the company is struggling. This first loss - small loss -compared to the profit they normally make.

Centum Investment Group has posted the first full-year loss in 42 yrs.

AfriqueDuZuid:
and that too

Rvp just comfirm Centum making losses
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:44am On Aug 14, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Like my sister stays in a place with 7 malls, dozens of estate, huge hospitals, rail, leasure places, it has a huge manufacturing plants that supplies BMW, mercs, rollsroyce, toyota, VA, BRIDGESTONE ETC

YET we still regard it as a town not a city.

But i suppose that differs from country to country
yeah

Most countries set a population limit for what differentiates a town from a city and a village from a town..

Most times, the only difference is the population....
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:45am On Aug 14, 2021
grin grin
AfriqueDuZuid:
and that too

Rvp just comfirm Centum making losses
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:47am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Shackman nearly every company made losses in covid period. Making a loss doesnt mean the company is struggling. This first loss - small loss -compared to the profit they normally make
Not you again with name calling. Id like to believe you more matured than that

I said they making losses, of which is true #fact

Dont patronise me
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:48am On Aug 14, 2021
Just30:
yeah

Most countries set a population limit for what differentiates a town from a city..

Most times, the only difference is the population....
Because if we go by how kenya defines it, then i don't know
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:48am On Aug 14, 2021
Shackman.They made a small loss. They are not making losses. That is present continous tense - and you have no evidence of that.
AfriqueDuZuid:
Not you again with name calling. Id like to believe you more matured than that

I said they making losses, of which is true #fact

Dont patronise me
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:50am On Aug 14, 2021
So Daadab refugee camp in kenya with 200,000 somalis is a city. Or the 200,000 south sudanese in Kakuma camp ?. Not kenya urban areas are defined based not only on population but infrastructure. It starts from village market centers, to towns, to municipals, to cities and metropolis.
A City now requires 250K population with requiste infrastructure.
AfriqueDuZuid:
Because if we go by how kenya defines it, then i don't know
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:51am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Shackman.They made a small loss. They are not making losses. That is present continous tense - and you have no evidence of that.
Their present statement shows losses,

No one knows what will happen tomorrow, but currently its losses
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:51am On Aug 14, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Because if we go by how kenya defines it, then i don't know
Then every 4 blocks estate will be a city grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:52am On Aug 14, 2021
Again present CONTINOUS - KQ is making losses - Centum made a loss. This is the stuff you should have been taught in pre-primary if you had any education worth it's salt.
AfriqueDuZuid:
Their present statement shows losses,

No one knows what will happen tomorrow, but currently its losses
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:55am On Aug 14, 2021
Madcow in Ghana definitely - your sprawling slums - will be called cities

Kenya has urban law

The same law also allows a county to declare an urban area a municipality if it has a resident population of at least 50,000 residents, while for an area to be declared a town it has to have at least a population of 10,000 residents and a market centre would only require 2,000 residents .

Just30:
Then every 4 blocks estate will be a city grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:55am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
So Daadab refugee camp in kenya with 200,000 somalis is a city. Or the 200,000 south sudanese in Kakuma camp ?. Not kenya urban areas are defined based not only on population but infrastructure. It starts from village market centers, to towns, to municipals, to cities and metropolis.
A City now requires 250K population with requiste infrastructure.
A town i told you about has a population over 500 000 but we regard it as a town. There are 1000s like it but still we regard them as towns



That's the standard we set on our selves.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:56am On Aug 14, 2021
You're an idiot 500,000 times 1000s is 500M - are you China or India. 500,000 is a big city. Unless youre talking west africa slumpolis without any infrastructure.

Kenya cities use to start at 0.5M - but now it been lowered to 0.25m. If Centum within it's own land will host 200,000 and 50,000 will grow outside it - then it will become a city. The same with Tatu and others.

AfriqueDuZuid:
A town i told you about has a population over 500 000 but we regard it as a town. There are 1000s like it but still we regard them as towns



That's the standard we set on our selves.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:59am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Again present CONTINOUS - KQ is making losses - Centum made a loss. This is the stuff you should have been taught in pre-primary if you had any education worth it's salt.
You like mentioning education on everthing, stop that saying that does not make you smarter

Statements shows losses, its not making profits
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:00am On Aug 14, 2021
Shackman - stop using plurals - it shows a LOSS. Not losses. You need to wait for it to make another loss. For it to become losses. It has made profits for 42yrs.
AfriqueDuZuid:
You like mentioning education on everthing, stop that saying that does not make you smarter

Statements shows losses, its not making profits
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:02am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
You're an idiot 500,000 times 1000s is 500M - are you China or India. 500,000 is a big city. Unless youre talking west africa slumpolis without any infrastructure.

Kenya cities use to start at 0.5M - but now it been lowered to 0.25m. If Centum within it's own land will host 200,000 and 50,000 will grow outside it - then it will become a city. The same with Tatu and others.
Im talking about my country, what we regard a city

It has nothing to do with what is being set
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:03am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Madcow in Ghana definitely - your sprawling slums - will be called cities

Kenya has urban law

The same law also allows a county to declare an urban area a municipality if it has a resident population of at least 50,000 residents, while for an area to be declared a town it has to have at least a population of 10,000 residents and a market centre would only require 2,000 residents .
I know you are lying hence why you cant quote that law


See how you dont even know the differences between political subdivisions and geographic subdivisions grin grin grin

You are here giving a 10,000 plus which is the definition of a village to a town
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:04am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Shackman - stop using plurals - it shows a LOSS. Not losses. You need to wait for it to make another loss. For it to become losses. It has made profits for 42yrs.
You are old enough to be using primary school kids tactics of name calling, you an elder here with kids for God sake.

Losses by means of consecutive months
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:05am On Aug 14, 2021
South Africa has only 9 - if you include Soweto - with 0.5M people. The only thing you own is probably the stuff in your shack. You do not posses South Africa


Cape Town 3,433,441
Durban 3,120,282
Johannesburg 2,026,469
Soweto 1,695,047
Pretoria 1,619,438
Port Elizabeth 967,677
Pietermaritzburg 750,845
Benoni 605,344
Tembisa 511,655
AfriqueDuZuid:
Im talking about my country, what we regard a city

It has nothing to do with what is being set
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:07am On Aug 14, 2021
Shackman, never heard of monthly accounting, quartely maybe. D
AfriqueDuZuid:
You are old enough to be using primary school kids tactics of name calling, you an elder here with kids for God sake.

Losses by means of consecutive months
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:09am On Aug 14, 2021
http://www.parliament.go.ke/sites/default/files/2017-05/UrbanAreasandCitiesAct_No13of2011.pdf

For example - a Town
(a) a population of at least ten thousand residents according to the final
gazetted results of the latest population census carried out by an
institution authorized under any written law, preceding the grant;
(b) demonstrable economic, functional and financial viability;
(c) the existence of an integrated development plan in accordance with
this Act;
(d) the capacity to effectively and efficiently deliver essential services to
its residents as provided in the First Schedule; and
(e) sufficient space for expansion.

And services it must provide
Town—(Population at least 10,000)
Street Lighting
Cemeteries and Crematoria
Libraries
Heath Facilities
Sports and Cultural Activities
Abattoirs
Refuse Collection
Solid waste management
Air noise
Child Care Facilities
Pre-Primary Education
Community Centres
Guest Houses
No. 13 of 2011 [Rev. 2012]
Urban Areas and Cities
[Issue 1] 28
Homestays
Polytechnic
Training Institution
County School
Airstrip
Unclassified roads
Museum
Historical Monument
Postal services
Regional Radio Station
Community Radio
Funeral Parlour
Cemetery
Recreational Parks
Management of Markets
Marine Water front
Animal control and welfare
Religious Institution



Just30:
I know you are lying hence why you cant quote that law


See how you dont even know the differences between political subdivisions and geographic subdivisions grin grin grin

You are here giving a 10,000 plus which is the definition of a village to a town
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:11am On Aug 14, 2021
I
rvp20182:
South Africa has only 9 - if you include Soweto - with 0.5M people. The only thing you own is probably the stuff in your shack. You do not posses South Africa


Cape Town 3,433,441
Durban 3,120,282
Johannesburg 2,026,469
Soweto 1,695,047
Pretoria 1,619,438
Port Elizabeth 967,677
Pietermaritzburg 750,845
Benoni 605,344
Tembisa 511,655
Where did you get those numbers grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:13am On Aug 14, 2021
Sound argument 101. You refute with your own more credible figures. I got them from the internet - genius. Show me the 1,000 plus 0.5M cities in little South Africa.
AfriqueDuZuid:
I

Where did you get those numbers grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:13am On Aug 14, 2021
So any town in Kenya will automatically be a village in Ghana grin grin
rvp20182:
http://www.parliament.go.ke/sites/default/files/2017-05/UrbanAreasandCitiesAct_No13of2011.pdf

For example - a Town
(a) a population of at least ten thousand residents according to the final
gazetted results of the latest population census carried out by an
institution authorized under any written law, preceding the grant;
(b) demonstrable economic, functional and financial viability;
(c) the existence of an integrated development plan in accordance with
this Act;
(d) the capacity to effectively and efficiently deliver essential services to
its residents as provided in the First Schedule; and
(e) sufficient space for expansion.

And services it must provide
Town—(Population at least 10,000)
Street Lighting
Cemeteries and Crematoria
Libraries
Heath Facilities
Sports and Cultural Activities
Abattoirs
Refuse Collection
Solid waste management
Air noise
Child Care Facilities
Pre-Primary Education
Community Centres
Guest Houses
No. 13 of 2011 [Rev. 2012]
Urban Areas and Cities
[Issue 1] 28
Homestays
Polytechnic
Training Institution
County School
Airstrip
Unclassified roads
Museum
Historical Monument
Postal services
Regional Radio Station
Community Radio
Funeral Parlour
Cemetery
Recreational Parks
Management of Markets
Marine Water front
Animal control and welfare
Religious Institution
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:13am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Shackman, never heard of monthly accounting, quartely maybe. D
they made losses on all quarters
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