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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:15am On Aug 14, 2021
Based on population - maybe - based on infrastructure definitely not.

A town in kenya - 10k to 50k population - but it must have requisite infrastructure.

This is my hometown - last I checked it had 30K population

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePN_C_746jU

Just30:
So any town in Kenya will automatically be a village in Ghana grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 11:16am On Aug 14, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
A town i told you about has a population over 500 000 but we regard it as a town. There are 1000s like it but still we regard them as towns



That's the standard we set on our selves.
Actually every country and what they look at to name a place a city or a town. I think Kenyans are quite good in that side.
If for nothing at all they take their time, put certain measures in place before declaring a place a City.

The parameters used by Nigerians to declare a place a city cannot be used in say *Ghana, Kenya, Rwanda or Cameroon*.
From population density, the size of the area, activities ECT can't be the same in these countries.

A place with a population of about 10,000 can be said to be a city in Namibia, Botswana, Cape Verde, Seychelles etc and they are right. A city with same population in Nigeria, SA, Kenya, Ghana cannot be called a *City* but that does not mean those in Botswana, Namibia, Cape Verde are wrong for calling that place a city.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:17am On Aug 14, 2021
This eldoret town - few thousands to become a city - about 200,000 people now. it has more infrastructure than Accra or Kumasi smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZO0t9MMLZg&t=651s
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:19am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Based on population - maybe - based on infrastructure definitely not.

A town in kenya - 10k to 50k population - but it must have requisite infrastructure.

This is my hometown - last I checked it had 30K population

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePN_C_746jU
In both population and infrastructure
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:20am On Aug 14, 2021
There has to be requisite infrastructure.

This Daadab refugee camp in kenya - with 200,000 people. Should we call a city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxOlp-nmFXg

vankelvin:
Actually every country and what they look at to name a place a city or a town. I think Kenyans are quite good in that side.
If for nothing at all they take their time, put certain measures in place before declaring a place a City.

The parameters used by Nigerians to declare a place a city cannot be used in say *Ghana, Kenya, Rwanda or Cameroon*.
From population density, the size of the area, activities ECT can't be the same these countries.

A place with a population of about 10,000 can be said to be a city in Namibia, Botswana, Cape Verde, Seychelles etc and they are right. A city with same population in Nigeria, SA, Kenya, Ghana cannot be called a *City* but that does not mean those in Botswana, Namibia, Cape Verde are wrong for calling that place a city.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:20am On Aug 14, 2021
As always prove it. Accra look like a cattle kraal - Kumasi is crap - Takoradi? Show me a town of 30k - with 10, 15 floors of buildings, malls, sewage systems, name it
Just30:
In both population and infrastructure
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:21am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
This eldoret town - few thousands to become a city - about 200,000 people now. it has more infrastructure than Accra or Kumasi smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZO0t9MMLZg&t=651s
I guess Eldoret must be the most developed place in Kenya grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:22am On Aug 14, 2021
Dont guess. Ask. Nairobi is.
Just30:
I guess Eldoret must be the most developed place in Kenya grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:25am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
As always prove it.
The area Vankelvin posted is just a town and it has better and more infrastructure than Nairobi with a population of less than 200,000 people
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 11:26am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
This eldoret town - few thousands to become a city - about 200,000 people now. it has more infrastructure than Accra or Kumasi smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZO0t9MMLZg&t=651s
Eldoret doesn't have close to the infrastructure they have in Kumasi.

Eldoret is better planned than Kumasi but not in infrastructure.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:27am On Aug 14, 2021
There goes the mad-man. No city - in entire west africa - lagos included - has Nairobi infrastracture. Nairobi is closing down on South Africa's cities. Pick any parameter - Nairobi has no match in West Africa or Central Africa.
Just30:
The area Vankelvin posted is just a town and it has better and more infrastructure than Nairobi with a population of less than 200,000 people
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:28am On Aug 14, 2021
What infrastructure to you? And what do you mean better planned? Pick any parameter btw Kumasi and Eldoret - eldore comes top.
vankelvin:
Eldoret doesn't have close to the infrastructure they have in Kumasi.

Eldoret is better planned than Kumasi but not in infrastructure.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:29am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
As always prove it. Accra look like a cattle kraal - Kumasi is crap - Takoradi? Show me a town of 30k - with 10, 15 floors of buildings, malls, sewage systems, name it
we dont build nasty apartments here to cram people in


Show me a town in Kenya that has it people so rich to own single own homes instead of the nasty no elevator craps and slums that you guys build. In Ghana, a property from 4 and 5 floors must have a lift.

You guys keep building nasty slums and call them cities
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:29am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Dont guess. Ask. Nairobi is.
so if Nairobi is half as developed as Accra, how will Eldoret compare?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:30am On Aug 14, 2021
Are we back to sprawling slumsplis? Like you discovered with Nairobi - every kenya town or city has more single homes - of world class standards - than any part of Ghana. I know you thought Nairobi was all tall buildings - but I showed that half of Nairobi is actually high class single dweller units - that few Ghanians can afford to live in. The same for Kericho.

Urban centers - middle of city - yes will have tall office buildings, malls - there will section for apartments - all clustered together - there will be section for industrial areas.

Just30:
we dont build nasty apartments here to cram people in
Show me a town in Kenya that has it people so rich to own single own homes instead of the nasty no elevator craps and slums that you guys build. In Ghana, a property from 4 and 5 floors must have a lift.

You guys keep building nasty slums and call them cities
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:32am On Aug 14, 2021
vankelvin:
Eldoret doesn't have close to the infrastructure they have in Kumasi.

Eldoret is better planned than Kumasi but not in infrastructure.
Even in planning

eldoret and Mombasa combine do not match Kumasi old grid urban planning
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:32am On Aug 14, 2021
There goes the mad man again
Just30:
so if Nairobi is half as developed as Accra, how will Eldoret compare?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:34am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
There goes the mad-man. No city - in entire west africa - lagos included - has Nairobi infrastracture. Nairobi is closing down on South Africa's cities. Pick any parameter - Nairobi has no match in West Africa or Central Africa.
Just a district alone in Accra has more infrastructure than the entire Nairobi

from A to Z, any infrastructure you can think of, entertainment,leisure,sports, utility and name the rest
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 11:34am On Aug 14, 2021
Just30:
so if Nairobi is half as developed as Accra, how will Eldoret compare?
Mad man. Please take your medication. undecided
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:34am On Aug 14, 2021
Old grid urban planning - what hell is that. Urban planning is ZONING. Each area for a specific function. No office block next to factory next to residence next a slum next to sewage.
Just30:
Even in planning

eldoret and Mombasa combine do not match Kumasi old grid urban planning

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:35am On Aug 14, 2021
I thought you had started to take your medication? You need to resume the proper dosage.
Just30:
Just a district alone in Accra has more infrastructure than the entire Nairobi

from A to Z, any infrastructure you can think of, entertainment,leisure,sports, utility and name the rest
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 11:36am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
What infrastructure to you? And what do you mean better planned? Pick any parameter btw Kumasi and Eldoret - eldore comes top.
In terms of city or town planning, the serenity of the city or town, controlled human activies in the city or town, number of high rise building etc. In that regard Eldoret, Nakuri and Kisimu are ahead of Kumasi but to say

Road infrastructure
Good housing facilities
Market or shopping facilities
Stadiums/ sports facilities
School facilities
Entertainment facilities
Health facilities
Airport etc Kumasi is far ahead of these places.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:36am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Are we back to sprawling slumsplis? Like you discovered with Nairobi - every kenya town or city has more single homes - of world class standards - than any part of Ghana. I know you thought Nairobi was all tall buildings - but I showed that half of Nairobi is actually high class single dweller units - that few Ghanians can afford to live in. The same for Kericho.

Urban centers - middle of city - yes will have tall office buildings, malls - there will section for apartments - all clustered together - there will be section for industrial areas.
so far

everyone knows that Nairobi classify it slums as estates

please dont start with your lunacy...

How will I look at the countless slum and human degradation settlements in kenya and think tall or even better?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:36am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
There goes the mad man again
I can see, your lunacy hasn't ended
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:39am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Old grid urban planning - what hell is that. Urban planning is ZONING. Each area for a specific function. No office block next to factory next to residence next a slum next to sewage.
A grid plan is the first basic plan in urban planning. It was developed in ancient Greece.It is a type of city plan in which streets run at right angles to each other, forming a grid.

since you dont know what a grid plan is grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:39am On Aug 14, 2021
None of that is true except for the big market at center of Kumasi;
But in terms of road infrastructure -?
Housing - definitely not.
Markets - Eldoret has many malls
Stadium - Eldoret has those
Hospital - Kenya 2nd biggest refferal hospital is in Eldoret - and cluster around it.
Airport - Eldoret has an international Airport
Schools - thousands including two universities - 2nd Biggest in Kenya - Moi university and Eldoret
Office buildings - Eldoret has many 15-20 floors buildings.

Name it - Eldoret beat Kumasi

vankelvin:
In terms of city or town planning, the serenity of the city or town, controlled human activies in the city or town, number of high rise building etc. In that regard Eldoret, Nakuri and Kisimu are ahead of Kumasi but to say

Road infrastructure
Good housing facilities
Market or shopping facilities
Stadiums/ sports facilities
School facilities
Entertainment facilities
Health facilities
Airport etc Kumasi is far ahead of these places.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:40am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
I thought you had started to take your medication? You need to resume the proper dosage.
Tantrums as usual

get an education and check yourself into a mental institution
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:42am On Aug 14, 2021
That is just basic of any street planning. You think other cities have obtsuse angles? The planning we are talking about is Urban Zoning - that is absent in West Africa - where everything is hodgpodge - like your breakfast.
Just30:
A grid plan is the first basic plan in urban planning. It was developed in ancient Greece.It is a type of city plan in which streets run at right angles to each other, forming a grid.

since you dont know what a grid plan is grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 11:44am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
None of that is true except for the big market at center of Kumasi;
But in terms of road infrastructure -?
Housing - definitely not.
Markets - Eldoret has many malls
Stadium - Eldoret has those
Hospital - Kenya 2nd biggest refferal hospital is in Eldoret - and cluster around it.
Airport - Eldoret has an international Airport
Schools - thousands including two universities - 2nd Biggest in Kenya - Moi university and Eldoret
Office buildings - Eldoret has many 15-20 floors buildings.

Name it - Eldoret beat Kumasi
Airport?
Universities?
Hospitals?
Markets?
Stadium
Roads?
etc ?
You don't mean it, do you?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
rvp20182:
That is just basic of any street planning. You think other cities have obtsuse angles? The planning we are talking about is Urban Zoning - that is absent in West Africa - where everything is hodgpodge - like your breakfast.
Does Kenya even know what an angle is ?

Kumasi has better zoning than all your cities that have incorporated slums in all places such that you cant differentiate residential areas from commercial areas and industrial areas
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:49am On Aug 14, 2021
1) Eldoret International Airport
2) Moi University - 2nd Biggest - and Eldoret University
3) Malls - Eldoret has more than Accra I bet.
4) Stadium - Kipchoge stadium maybe not be as good as Kumasi but Eldoret has whole has many more training facilities around it's cities - it's home of world althetics - althetes from all over camp there.

Name anything - Eldoret beat Kumasi

vankelvin:
Airport?
Universities?
Hospitals?
Markets?
Stadium
Roads?
etc ?
You don't mean it, do you?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:49am On Aug 14, 2021
rvp20182:
Sound argument 101. You refute with your own more credible figures. I got them from the internet - genius. Show me the 1,000 plus 0.5M cities in little South Africa.
Come on i don't have to even you can see what you wrote is out of line
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