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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 6:06am On Sep 02, 2021
rvp20182:
When country depend on oil; and that oil is shared based on population quota; everyone increase their number; and that is Nigeria story. If you were not a well know idiot you should already have some history of Nigeria census rigging starting in 1960s - btw South and North.

And I doubt there is a country that has deflated their population - people want to inflate to raise their political stake - in almost any country.

I know you think kenya has deflated it's population - smiley - while in actual sense kenya prevented Nigeria like situation when Somalis attempted to fake their numbers - that was in 2009 census!
You got it wrong Libya is perfect example why you are wrong

Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi etc
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 6:08am On Sep 02, 2021
Vlain:
Yes but it makes every corrupt sense to the Nigerian govt and their selfish pockets.
Wonder no more why they don’t want to conduct censors in this century.
I'm still waiting for "dead country" story

They on this population saga because they avoiding it
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 6:59am On Sep 02, 2021
Vlain:
Yes but it makes every corrupt sense to the Nigerian govt and their selfish pockets.
Wonder no more why they don’t want to conduct censors in this century.
After we deal with dead countries issues I'll be heading out
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theInterpreter: 8:46am On Sep 02, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
You got it wrong Libya is perfect example why you are wrong

Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi etc
nigeria has 253 ethnic groups grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Lionessza6(f): 10:00am On Sep 02, 2021
kikuyu1:
If you're still around and I sincerely hope you are give us the real picture of SA as of now- Zuma's contempt of court jailing, the massive "spontaneous" riots and ofc the ongoing 'Ronadrama.
we are in deep shyt. The powers behind Ramaphosa are nolonger hiding their intentions of turning SA into an experiment for the NWo......we are now a big and important tool for their agenda ( my observation though). SA just like many of the countries ruled by agents of the global Zionists is waging war against its people....no more free,no more democratic.....we are now becoming a full blown nazi nation . Media is under the control of far left liberals & judiciary is captured by the same forces,now they have added state security under their belt...yup! The ministry has now been moved under the presidency .....dictatorship in the making . And there was no noise from any opposition party ,only ordinary citizens spoke out against this move. Already we're seeing ordinary citizens ,doctors ,scientists activists etc who are speaking out against Ramaphosa, the vaccines and the arrest of Zuma being taken to the cleaners or jailed .

I don't know if you know of a man called Credo mutwa?. It seems like his scary prophesies from the 90s are becoming a reality, SA is becoming one of the worst tyrannies Africa has ever seen under Ramaphosa. SA is now following the NWO agenda according to the script.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9inhLPxqzGA

We have been on lockdown since 2020,unemployment is increasing together with poverty ,illegal immigration and anarchy....they are fiercely pushing for a rapid collapse of the economy and society. They are rapidly destroying industries, the middle class & pushing for the universal basic income......like Klaus schwab once said ....."you will own nothing and be happy ". shocked. And they are coming for everybody's land .....hence the kings including the Zulu king had to go( rural land is part of the plan ).

The " spontaneous "riots were obviously a big part of the plan to permanently deploy the army in strategic places in the country and communities ,and also normalise the presence of the UN ....yes ! The UN is in SA now ....we all know what happens to the countries they " assist". Credo once mentioned yellow soldiers butchering South African males ,both black & white. Today every news outlet is reporting on the violence of SA males and their low vaccinated numbers ,and how much we shouldn't tolerate their crap .....it's only a matter of time .......zulus as credo once predicted will be the worst hit. The UN is in KZN( where most Zulu people live).

The Zuma arrest was always on the books whether, he had complied or not he was to be arrested ,they needed something that could trigger violence and destabilise the country...and they knew the arrest would do just that. Didn't you ask where the police were during these riots? cheesy. SA has different special units that are well trained for such incidence ,and none of them were deployed and the minister of police went AWOL until the army was deployed....he then emerged to thank the president for his "assistance " grin.

Lmfao@ Rodadrama ...many people have now caught on that the rona was made for the vaccines not the other way round hence the growing hesitancy to vaccinate especially among the youth . So the corporates and government have now resorted to desperate moves ; hiring vax influencers...I'm sure you've noticed the SA ones here on nairaland as well. They are offering cars and discounts at some shopping malls for the vaxxed...its getting pathetic and making more people wary of the agenda .

Apologies for my long rant grin,and for being all over the place ....I'm in desperate need of a booster shotgrin grin...a new variant has been detected in the country again...and I need to go queue for my latest dose of protection grin grin grin grin grin grin

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Lionessza6(f):
kikuyu1:
If you're still around and I sincerely hope you are give us the real picture of SA as of now- Zuma's contempt of court jailing, the massive "spontaneous" riots and ofc the ongoing 'Ronadrama.
1st attachment.....the slavery movies grin

Ramaphosa and others vowing to make the new world order a reality ;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H4JswoBNeY

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 10:36am On Sep 02, 2021
Your ridiculous telecom penetration numbers prove you manipulate your population figures where 75% of your population including babies and toddlers are said to use mobile phones. So zip it and sit your sanctimonious lying ass down!

rvp20182:
When country depend on oil; and that oil is shared based on population quota; everyone increase their number; and that is Nigeria story. If you were not a well know idiot you should already have some history of Nigeria census rigging starting in 1960s - btw South and North.

And I doubt there is a country that has deflated their population - people want to inflate to raise their political stake - in almost any country.

I know you think kenya has deflated it's population - smiley - while in actual sense kenya prevented Nigeria like situation when Somalis attempted to fake their numbers - that was in 2009 census!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:38am On Sep 02, 2021
I was shocked by voting numbers - and registered votes. I think Lagos had almost same number of voters like Nairobi.
Nigeria need to do biometric voter registration - and they will shocked by how rigged the system and the data is
theInterpreter:
you have a good idea of the Nigerian situation

I am Nigerian
I know what's happening
The SA guy is just following stats (mostly cooked up)
I laugh when I see people saying they scared of Nigeria getting overpopulated grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:39am On Sep 02, 2021
Little knowledge is dangerous. Most people have two or three lines. In developed world - mobile pentration exceed population. How many Nigerians have multiple lines?

There is no more credible data than telcom penetration - because it got right from the source database of say MTN.

chrisooblog:
Your ridiculous telecom penetration numbers prove you manipulate your population figures where 75% of your population including babies and toddlers are said to use mobile phones. So zip it and sit your sanctimonious lying ass down!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theInterpreter: 11:41am On Sep 02, 2021
rvp20182:
I was shocked by voting numbers - and registered votes. I think Lagos had almost same number of voters like Nairobi.
Nigeria need to do biometric voter registration - and they will shocked by how rigged the system and the data is
Nigeria has a very large youth population
And voter apathy is very high
So voters don't matter
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 11:42am On Sep 02, 2021
It's still ridiculous.

even in Nigeria where people have 2/3 lines the penetration is barely above 60% please come with another line rafiki

rvp20182:
Little knowledge is dangerous. Most people have two or three lines. In developed world - mobile pentration exceed population. How many Nigerians have multiple lines?

There is no more credible data than telcom penetration - because it got right from the source database of say MTN.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:42am On Sep 02, 2021
expound
AfriqueDuZuid:
You got it wrong Libya is perfect example why you are wrong

Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi etc
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:44am On Sep 02, 2021
Because your population is rigged [WELL KNOWN FACT SINCE 60s] or your are undeveloped; otherwise compare kenya to say South Africa or any country with decent data.

There were 100.6 million mobile connections in South Africa in January 2021.

That is almost 200 percent

Mobile connections in South Africa
There were 100.6 million mobile connections in South Africa in January 2021.

The number of mobile connections in South Africa increased by 817 thousand (+0.8%) between January 2020 and January 2021.

The number of mobile connections in South Africa in January 2021 was equivalent to 168.5% of the total population.

Note: many people have more than one mobile connection, so figures for mobile connections may exceed 100% of the total population.


chrisooblog:
It's still ridiculous.

even in Nigeria where people have 2/3 lines the penetration is barely above 60% please come with another line rafiki
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:55am On Sep 02, 2021
Or simply there has been the race to rig Nigeria population since 1960s
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/
Although the final results were not made public, the preliminary results were quite clear as to what had happened: the north’s population had gone up from 16.5 million in the last census in 1952 to 22.5 million, an increase of 30%. But in some parts of the east, the population had increased by up to 200% and more than 70% in general. The west also reported an increase of 70%. What the preliminary results showed was that the north had lost its majority share of the country’s population.
theInterpreter:
Nigeria has a very large youth population
And voter apathy is very high
So voters don't matter
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 11:56am On Sep 02, 2021
A triumphant entry of UCC....

NOTE ...THIS UNIVERSITY WILL PLAY A THIRD line AMONG THE LEAGUE OF UNIVERSITiES in Ghana. just behind legon and Knust.

but times higher education says "

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theInterpreter: 11:57am On Sep 02, 2021
rvp20182:
Or simply there has been the race to rig Nigeria population since 1960s
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/
Although the final results were not made public, the preliminary results were quite clear as to what had happened: the north’s population had gone up from 16.5 million in the last census in 1952 to 22.5 million, an increase of 30%. But in some parts of the east, the population had increased by up to 200% and more than 70% in general. The west also reported an increase of 70%. What the preliminary results showed was that the north had lost its majority share of the country’s population.
undecided
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 12:00pm On Sep 02, 2021
Voter apathy is an issue but still doesn't account for why the numbers are so low. In 2015 when people were so excited to vote the figures were shockingly low compared to 2011.

As per states tweaking their numbers to attract more federal allocation it still doesn't really add anything to the states. Some of us have suspected that the northern states especially inflate their figures but that hasn't benefited all this time because they are still relatively poorer than the southern states.

If you ask I would put our true population at around 180-190 don't think we have cracked 200m yet.

theInterpreter:
Nigeria has a very large youth population
And voter apathy is very high
So voters don't matter
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theInterpreter: 12:02pm On Sep 02, 2021
chrisooblog:
Voter apathy is an issue but still doesn't account for why the numbers are so low. In 2015 when people were so excited to vote the figures were shockingly low compared to 2011.

As per states tweaking their numbers to attract more federal allocation it still doesn't really add anything to the states. Some of us have suspected that the northern states especially inflate their figures but that hasn't benefited all this time because they are still relatively poorer than the southern states.

If you ask I would put our true population at around 180-190 don't think we have cracked 200m yet.
exactly what I said
We are around 180m
The north's population is grossly false
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 12:14pm On Sep 02, 2021
Actually if you think our population figures are inflated (which I agree with funny enough) then our telecom percentage numbers will be higher since the figures come straight from the telecom providers themselves and are immune from manipulation by the government.

South Africa has a way better internet infrastructure than you so please.

Your telecom figures don't make sense on so many levels.

1. Nairobi and Mombasa will probably account for a chunk of those figures how many people live in those cities?

2. Economically, Infrastructure and Electricity wise I don't know how you would be able to sustain above 40m subscribers which is what that figure is implying. Ghana that has stable electricity supply, better infrastructure and is richer than you don't pull such laughable stats.

rvp20182:
Because your population is rigged [WELL KNOWN FACT SINCE 60s] or your are undeveloped; otherwise compare kenya to say South Africa or any country with decent data.

There were 100.6 million mobile connections in South Africa in January 2021.

That is almost 200 percent

Mobile connections in South Africa
There were 100.6 million mobile connections in South Africa in January 2021.

The number of mobile connections in South Africa increased by 817 thousand (+0.8%) between January 2020 and January 2021.

The number of mobile connections in South Africa in January 2021 was equivalent to 168.5% of the total population.

Note: many people have more than one mobile connection, so figures for mobile connections may exceed 100% of the total population.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 12:23pm On Sep 02, 2021
My guy but speaking from an academic stand point are they really over inflated like that?

Let's use INEC voter registration numbers for the most part they use biometric voter register. Since 2011 northern states have had higher number of registered voters. If we say that one was manipulated they how come northern states also generally have higher number of voters?

So these things are neither here or there but personally I think manipulating numbers is a waste of time because history has shown it doesn't add any benefit to your state.

theInterpreter:
exactly what I said
We are around 180m
The north's population is grossly false
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theInterpreter: 12:27pm On Sep 02, 2021
chrisooblog:
My guy but speaking from an academic stand point are they really over inflated like that?

Let's use INEC voter registration numbers for the most part they use biometric voter register. Since 2011 northern states have had higher number of registered voters. If we say that one was manipulated they how come northern states also generally have higher number of voters?

So these things are neither here or there but personally I think manipulating numbers is a waste of time because history has shown it doesn't add any benefit to your state.
They(north) have less voter apathy
Most southerners care less about voting
I hope this changes soon undecided
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 12:36pm On Sep 02, 2021
President Nana Addo Dankwa Akufo-Addo has today cut sod at Borteyman, suburb of Accra for the construction of a new 50,000 capacity Olympic Stadium for the hosting and organizing 2023 Africa Games in Ghana.

this is 200 milion dollar project.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:11pm On Sep 02, 2021
rvp20182:
expound
Can we address the issue when two said "Kenya is a construction site" "Nigeria is dead" "south Africa is dead"

How do you explain the fact that Nigeria consumed 5 times more cement than Kenya?

How is it Ghana consumes more than Kenya?

How do you explain South Africa being Africa top construction sector? That SA is doing more than 2x Kenya output. All that while SA is stagnant and dead
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:15pm On Sep 02, 2021
rvp20182:
Little knowledge is dangerous. Most people have two or three lines. In developed world - mobile pentration exceed population. How many Nigerians have multiple lines?

There is no more credible data than telcom penetration - because it got right from the source database of say MTN.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:27pm On Sep 02, 2021
This doesnt make sense. As we speak Kenya mobile pentration is at 110 percent. South Africa is 170 percent. Nigeria if indeed it was 200M people - would already be at 100 or even 110 percent like Kenya. If Nigeria was to get to south africa level...it would have 350M active mobile numbers.

The answer remains; in 1960s; Southern states started the rigging; increasing their population by 200 percent; while the northern had grown by 70 percent; the North cried foul; a repeat was done; they also inflated their to 200 percent;

All the rest of census have followed the 1960s stalemate - or agreed rigging;

So if true population of Nigeria was inflated from growth of 70 percent to 200 percent - then we can conclude - Nigeria population is way less - maybe 150m.

Solution is simple - Biometric registration like india or something like that.

chrisooblog:
Actually if you think our population figures are inflated (which I agree with funny enough) then our telecom percentage numbers will be higher since the figures come straight from the telecom providers themselves and are immune from manipulation by the government.

South Africa has a way better internet infrastructure than you so please.

Your telecom figures don't make sense on so many levels.

1. Nairobi and Mombasa will probably account for a chunk of those figures how many people live in those cities?

2. Economically, Infrastructure and Electricity wise I don't know how you would be able to sustain above 40m subscribers which is what that figure is implying. Ghana that has stable electricity supply, better infrastructure and is richer than you don't pull such laughable stats.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:31pm On Sep 02, 2021
Expound Libya inflating their population - otherwise you're opening so many threads - in bid to run away from demographic questions.

Last I checked the latest cement consumption was like this Nigeria 18-20M; South Africa 13m; Kenya is 7M, Ghana is 4-5m

Africa being top construction in Africa - please stop smoking weed. EGYPT is far ahead (50M against 13m!). Nigeria is ahead of South Africa.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Can we address the issue when two said "Kenya is a construction site" "Nigeria is dead" "south Africa is dead"

How do you explain the fact that Nigeria consumed 5 times more cement than Kenya?

How is it Ghana consumes more than Kenya?

How do you explain South Africa being Africa top construction sector? That SA is doing more than 2x Kenya output. All that while SA is stagnant and dead
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 1:38pm On Sep 02, 2021
The fact that despite our ''inflated'' figures we are still recording 60% telecom penetration should tell you the figure will be way higher if the population figures are reduced.

Kenyans are globally notorious for manipulating your national stats so excuse me for taking your claims with a pinch of salt and please stop trying to use South Africa to cover up your dodgy stats.

by the way you haven't addressed these points

Your telecom figures don't make sense on so many levels.

1. Nairobi and Mombasa will probably account for a chunk of those figures how many people live in those cities?

2. Economically, Infrastructure and Electricity wise I don't know how you would be able to sustain above 40m subscribers which is what that figure is implying. Ghana that has stable electricity supply, better infrastructure and is richer than you don't pull such laughable stats.


rvp20182:
This doesnt make sense. As we speak Kenya mobile pentration is at 110 percent. South Africa is 170 percent. Nigeria if indeed it was 200M people - would already be at 100 or even 110 percent like Kenya. If Nigeria was to get to south africa level...it would have 350M active mobile numbers.

The answer remains; in 1960s; Southern states started the rigging; increasing their population by 200 percent; while the northern had grown by 70 percent; the North cried foul; a repeat was done; they also inflated their to 200 percent;

All the rest of census have followed the 1960s stalemate - or agreed rigging;

So if true population of Nigeria was inflated from growth of 70 percent to 200 percent - then we can conclude - Nigeria population is way less - maybe 150m.

Solution is simple - Biometric registration like india or something like that.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 1:50pm On Sep 02, 2021
rvp20182:
Expound Libya inflating their population - otherwise you're opening so many threads - in bid to run away from demographic questions.

Last I checked the latest cement consumption was like this Nigeria 18-20M; South Africa 13m; Kenya is 7M, Ghana is 4-5m

Africa being top construction in Africa - please stop smoking weed. EGYPT is far ahead (50M against 13m!). Nigeria is ahead of South Africa.
But Kenya is on steroid and the rest of Africa including Nigeria is dead according to you.

How do explain this sir

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