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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 3:26pm On Sep 03, 2021
Shma2020:
You cannot come here with half backed information laced with rantings and expect us to believe you. I know facts are stubborn and they are all over the internet with credible sources displaying the underdeveloped state of your dystopia country .

I hope you're actually not on expired viagras cos you're trying to imagine things that don't exist. Who told you development of a country is determined by two cities? Come on zombie.even a KG kid will not think that way.

And please, speak for your zoo, Nigeria should be the last country to talk when electricity is something to go by, even your precious slum in makoko has no electricity talk less of generators what can your villages have to say?


And Mr, you're 8times Ghana population and Ghana still does well than you, what can you say about that? Since by you, highly populated countries should actually perform better than small populated countries, let's see your logic cool
My GOODNESS! Bots' has barely 60% electrical coverage? The few Batswana I know I rate slightly higher than Tzns: happy go lucky and less inclined to witchcraft but that's wayyyyy low for their 8k usd per capita GDP higher even than S.A.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:34pm On Sep 03, 2021
Tell us what is affordable then ? 30 floors are selling units for 20-40Kusd. That is very affordable. Most decent houses in Nairobi start from 100k usd...
Abohboy:
10k dollars for 1 bedroom is affordable? And i'm talking about the picture of that what 30flr plus building complex and you're here talking about 500 000 units focus on the point and answer it, the picture you posted is it affordable?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 3:41pm On Sep 03, 2021
rvp20182:
Btw the geospatial survey what were results. Animal census was surprising healthy - elephants population at 40k is very good.
What with all the outside voice ululating from the Eco crywankers, I swear you'd have thought they were ALREADY extinct!
I've seen Paula Kahumbu on TV screeching about elephants enough times to last 4 lifetimes.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 3:42pm On Sep 03, 2021
kikuyu1:
Umm...dumsor? Ghanaians and foreigners have commented.
Dumsor is over as measured by plenty of installed capacity to supply peak demands. Ghana is having over 5 thousand installed megawatt, no country in entire east and central Africa is doing that. our mate are in south Africa excluding Nigeria in west Africa.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 3:44pm On Sep 03, 2021
Shma:
You're slow my nigga. When I say "all grand projects" I mean the projects that currently defines Egypt as the construction goat. I never said Cairo or Alexandria are not building anything!.
The question you should be asking yourself is, will those project match those in Shanghai, Dubai, Nairobi etc? The answer is definitely no.

Another question? Will those buildings be affordable to slum dwellers? The answer is no.

But when we consider those cities - the likes of Eko, konza, and all the Egyptian upcoming cities combined, then no country will stand Egypt.

Zombie.
U are one hell of low self esteemed piggybacking dweeb. SMH.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 3:46pm On Sep 03, 2021
Construction Industry and Value

Nigeria - $55 billion

Ghana - $9 billion

Ivory Coast - $5 billion

Kenya - $10 billion

Ethiopia - $26 billion

Source: @FitchRatings


By average, Ghana is doing better than any of the country mentioned here if we are to go by the population.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:48pm On Sep 03, 2021
Installed capacity versus demand - overcapacity charge of 1billion dollars is crazy

Between 2000 and 2019, electricity generation capacity increased at a rate of 6.4% a year from 1,358 megawatts (MW) to 4,695 MW. Supply capacity has nearly doubled since the 2013 power crisis. At the same time, system peak demand grew at a 4.6% annual rate from 1,161 MW to 2,804 MW.

Systemic losses of 25 percent - twice Sub-Sahara average

The result is that a persistent 25% of electricity generated in Ghana is lost at the retail end. These are caused by dilapidated infrastructure (technical losses) as well as electricity theft or commercial losses. Ghana’s losses are more than double the sub-Saharan Africa average of 12%.

vaxx:
Dumsor is over as measured by plenty of installed capacity to supply peak demands. Ghana is having over 5 thousand installed megawatt, no country in entire east and central Africa is doing that. our mate are in south Africa excluding Nigeria in west Africa.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx:
rvp20182:
Installed capacity versus demand - overcapacity charge of 1billion dollars is crazy

Between 2000 and 2019, electricity generation capacity increased at a rate of 6.4% a year from 1,358 megawatts (MW) to 4,695 MW. Supply capacity has nearly doubled since the 2013 power crisis. At the same time, system peak demand grew at a 4.6% annual rate from 1,161 MW to 2,804 MW.
The bone of question is "if dumsor stil exist " and the greater answer to it is no.

how we go about the debt is our headache, face your wheelbarrow empower economy. we solve the major crisis, that is all.

You already seen from your writeup it is over.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 4:15pm On Sep 03, 2021
vaxx:
Construction Industry and Value

Nigeria - $55 billion

Ghana - $9 billion

Ivory Coast - $5 billion

Kenya - $10 billion

Ethiopia - $26 billion

Source: @FitchRatings


By average, Ghana is doing better than any of the country mentioned here if we are to go by the population.
Nope SA pop is 60m don’t forget
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:22pm On Sep 03, 2021
Stop lying; Dumsor is permanent feature of Ghana until you invest in many things - like live maintenance; redundant lines; undergrounds cabling
https://ghananewspage.com/ecg-announces-22-day-dumsor-schedule-for-accra-71-communities-to-be-affected/?utm_source=ReviveOldPost&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost

vaxx:
The bone of question is "if dumsor stil exist " and the greater answer to it is no.

how we go about the debt is our headache, face your wheelbarrow empower economy. we solve the major crisis, that is all.

You already seen from your writeup it is over
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 4:29pm On Sep 03, 2021
rvp20182:
Stop lying; Dumsor is permanent feature of Ghana until you invest in many things - like live maintenance; redundant lines; undergrounds cabling
https://ghananewspage.com/ecg-announces-22-day-dumsor-schedule-for-accra-71-communities-to-be-affected/?utm_source=ReviveOldPost&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost
Dumsor ended a long time ago as all maintenance has been done
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 4:32pm On Sep 03, 2021
This is so funny

see how small it is grin grin
68816419:
stop deceiving your self mazze, your government is actually building nothing, all those building are mostly owned by the private firms and they are there to maximize profits ,
lets take Kibera slums as a case study before heading to other slums, the blue and red circled figures are the "said" buildings been built by government since independent. can we equate that to progress?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:33pm On Sep 03, 2021
https://www.energyforgrowth.org/memo/the-latest-power-supply-challenges-in-ghana/

August 23, 2021
THE LATEST POWER SUPPLY CHALLENGES IN GHANA
By Ishmael Ackah

Power supply challenges (including instability, low voltage, and blackouts), known as ‘Dumsor’, have plagued Ghana for years, and remain significant concerns for both industrial and residential customers. In just the first half of 2021, multiple major outages have occurred (see Annex), caused by three main issues:

Tripped transmission lines. Transmission lines in Ghana are frequently overloaded, not well maintained, and non-redundant. In March 2021, a fault in a major line caused cascading failures that crashed the entire system for several hours.
Reduced water level at the Bui reservoir. Low water levels have taken the 400MW dam mostly offline, save for a few evening hours when demand is highest. This has degraded electricity quality and caused repeated outages in Kumasi.
Gas/Fuel-related outages. At least 9 major outages were related to inadequate fuel stock, gas pressure dips, or other interruptions in fuel supply.


Just30:
Dumsor ended a long time ago as all maintenance has been done
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 4:37pm On Sep 03, 2021
And all those challenges have been solved

We will begin adding more generation capacity as more gas is coming onstream....

Ivory Coast just discovered 3 trillion scb reserves of gas and Ghana will be their major customer grin grin grin grin


Now tell us why kenyan consume less electricity than animals in Ghana
rvp20182:
https://www.energyforgrowth.org/memo/the-latest-power-supply-challenges-in-ghana/

August 23, 2021
THE LATEST POWER SUPPLY CHALLENGES IN GHANA
By Ishmael Ackah

Power supply challenges (including instability, low voltage, and blackouts), known as ‘Dumsor’, have plagued Ghana for years, and remain significant concerns for both industrial and residential customers. In just the first half of 2021, multiple major outages have occurred (see Annex), caused by three main issues:

Tripped transmission lines. Transmission lines in Ghana are frequently overloaded, not well maintained, and non-redundant. In March 2021, a fault in a major line caused cascading failures that crashed the entire system for several hours.
Reduced water level at the Bui reservoir. Low water levels have taken the 400MW dam mostly offline, save for a few evening hours when demand is highest. This has degraded electricity quality and caused repeated outages in Kumasi.
Gas/Fuel-related outages. At least 9 major outages were related to inadequate fuel stock, gas pressure dips, or other interruptions in fuel supply.
rolling blackout is acceptable in Kenya because you guys have no money to solve it
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Roan77: 4:42pm On Sep 03, 2021
68816419:
Can we compare this with Kenya's best stadium ? wink wink wink
Do they even have a stadium?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:48pm On Sep 03, 2021
Stop shouting like an he-goat on heat and listen FOR ONCE. KENYA is MILES AHEAD In quality of power. Do you see anybody complaining in kenya about dumsor or power rationing or NEPA?

In kenya if power goes off - there an emergency that respond within 1hr in many places. Rolling blackout those are rare unless it some rural places where a transformer has knocked down.

Nigeria has installed capacity of 10,000MW but it collapses every time; The same with Ghana; 5000Mw; that use waste 2500mw; and pay 1B dollars...that is wasted excess charge.

If you were using your brain like kenya - you would have invested that excess 1B - to IMPROVE QUALIY of transmission. You can have 100,000MW but if your network is rickety, is not redudant and collapse - it's useless.

1) Building a redundant transmission line - like Kenya - 250M dollars invested - to ensure most substation are connected to two sources - one goes down - another is brought in
https://www.esi-africa.com/regional-news/east-africa/kenya-power-introduce-redundant-network/
The redundant network can be explained as the alternative line of supply such that if one line goes off, power is automatically supplied by the other line hence the customer stays continuously connected. The system is reported to be used in advanced economies.

2) You invest in Live Maintenance - meaning line is repaired while it's powered on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVDjMbPo5pA&t=325s
3) Invest in underground cabling of the main lines - to avoid weather related emergencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaYD9ILL-CI

4) Invest in proper infrastructure to support maintenance team - including helicopters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmXSDnVAgpk&t=32s

Just30:
And all those challenges have been solved

We will begin adding more generation capacity as more gas is coming onstream....

Ivory Coast just discovered 3 trillion scb reserves of gas and Ghana will be their major customer grin grin grin grin


Now tell us why kenyan consume less electricity than animals in Ghana rolling blackout is acceptable in Kenya because you guys have no money to solve it
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 5:01pm On Sep 03, 2021
Vlain:
Nope SA pop is 60m don’t forget
There is no SA on the list i brought here .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx:
rvp20182:
Stop lying; Dumsor is permanent feature of Ghana until you invest in many things - like live maintenance; redundant lines; undergrounds cabling
https://ghananewspage.com/ecg-announces-22-day-dumsor-schedule-for-accra-71-communities-to-be-affected/?utm_source=ReviveOldPost&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost
wheelbarrow pusher, though the news is outdated which means it doesn't warrant attention.

the site you copy give reason for the schedule and non of it indicate your misfortune


""According to the power distributor, the outages would allow the Ghana Grid Company (GRIDCo) to complete the last phase of repair works on some bulk supply points and transmission cables in Accra"
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 5:12pm On Sep 03, 2021
Typical west african bonobo - repairs CAN NEVER BE COMPLETED - it's part of life. By time you're done - it started to breakdown. The Maintenance culture that you lack is your main undoing.
vaxx:
""According to the power distributor, the outages would allow the Ghana Grid Company (GRIDCo) to complete the last phase of repair works on some bulk supply points and transmission cables in Accra"
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 5:13pm On Sep 03, 2021
Africa 5G - South Africa and Morroco ahead - kenya has 3 sub stations

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 5:26pm On Sep 03, 2021
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 5:27pm On Sep 03, 2021
rvp20182:
Africa 5G - South Africa and Morroco ahead - kenya has 3 sub stations
Damn France has 10k imagine how many china has
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 5:33pm On Sep 03, 2021
rvp20182:
Typical west african bonobo - repairs CAN NEVER BE COMPLETED - it's part of life. By time you're done - it started to breakdown. The Maintenance culture that you lack is your main undoing.
I hate when i am talking to an idiot who speaks from both sides of the mouth, you can't be accepting a valid and invalidating it at the same time. you earlier reject dumsor, fact was thrown at you, you responded back with another fact validating my initial premises. You again look for excuse, the fact was thrown at you further, you end up running syphilis of the mouth.

even in USA, repairing and maintenance are continuous work, you should stupidly know it by now. they are times light go off for such purposes.


well, i hope the "1 nairobians youth, 1 wheelbarrow " policy is going up well.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:16pm On Sep 03, 2021
rvp20182:
Stop shouting like an he-goat on heat and listen FOR ONCE. KENYA is MILES AHEAD In quality of power. Do you see anybody complaining in kenya about dumsor or power rationing or NEPA?

In kenya if power goes off - there an emergency that respond within 1hr in many places. Rolling blackout those are rare unless it some rural places where a transformer has knocked down.

Nigeria has installed capacity of 10,000MW but it collapses every time; The same with Ghana; 5000Mw; that use waste 2500mw; and pay 1B dollars...that is wasted excess charge.

If you were using your brain like kenya - you would have invested that excess 1B - to IMPROVE QUALIY of transmission. You can have 100,000MW but if your network is rickety, is not redudant and collapse - it's useless.

1) Building a redundant transmission line - like Kenya - 250M dollars invested - to ensure most substation are connected to two sources - one goes down - another is brought in
https://www.esi-africa.com/regional-news/east-africa/kenya-power-introduce-redundant-network/
The redundant network can be explained as the alternative line of supply such that if one line goes off, power is automatically supplied by the other line hence the customer stays continuously connected. The system is reported to be used in advanced economies.

2) You invest in Live Maintenance - meaning line is repaired while it's powered on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVDjMbPo5pA&t=325s
3) Invest in underground cabling of the main lines - to avoid weather related emergencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaYD9ILL-CI

4) Invest in proper infrastructure to support maintenance team - including helicopters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmXSDnVAgpk&t=32s
Ghana's installed capacity is 5500MW and peak demand is 4000MW.

THAT is more than twice kenya demand....


We have proper infrastructure and that is why our grid can handle all the demand and generation we are adding....



All those things you posted are nothing compare to Ghana investment into the energy sector....

Our investment here are into the billions and not the few millions you guys can afford..


While you guys are now building transmission lines to connect the rest of your dark country to create a power pull with your neighbours,
Ours was built 50 years ago and its running perfectly as we continue to invest in modern technology.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 6:23pm On Sep 03, 2021
Link? Mad cow?
Just30:
Ghana's installed capacity is 5500MW and peak demand is 4000MW.

THAT is more than twice kenya demand....


We have proper infrastructure and that is why our grid can handle all the demand and generation we are adding....



All those things you posted are nothing compare to Ghana investment into the energy sector....

Our investment here are into the billions and not the few millions you guys can afford..


While you guys are now building transmission lines to connect the rest of your dark country to create a power pull with your neighbours,
Ours was built 50 years ago and its running perfectly as we continue to invest in modern technology.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:23pm On Sep 03, 2021
vaxx:
I hate when i am talking to an idiot who speaks from both sides of the mouth, you can't be accepting a valid and invalidating it at the same time. you earlier reject dumsor, fact was thrown at you, you responded back with another fact validating my initial premises. You again look for excuse, the fact was thrown at you further, you end up running syphilis of the mouth.

even in USA, repairing and maintenance are continuous work, you should stupidly know it by now. they are times light go off for such purposes.


well, i hope the "1 nairobians youth, 1 wheelbarrow " policy is going up well.
grin grin grin

Wheelbarrow for transportation?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:24pm On Sep 03, 2021
rvp20182:
Link? Mad cow?
Lunatic
Go back to the previous thread and you will see all the links I sent to you concerning this..... I'm not about to start all over again
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 6:25pm On Sep 03, 2021
Not in developed world; power only go off if big weather storm; developed world have redudant lines, live maintainance and all the works; power simply never goes off; except in big storm or flooding
vaxx:
I hate when i am talking to an idiot who speaks from both sides of the mouth, you can't be accepting a valid and invalidating it at the same time. you earlier reject dumsor, fact was thrown at you, you responded back with another fact validating my initial premises. You again look for excuse, the fact was thrown at you further, you end up running syphilis of the mouth.

even in USA, repairing and maintenance are continuous work, you should stupidly know it by now. they are times light go off for such purposes.


well, i hope the "1 nairobians youth, 1 wheelbarrow " policy is going up well.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 6:25pm On Sep 03, 2021
Bla de bla. Mad cow such statistics are freely available - they are no a hidden gem like your gold. Just type Ghana peak power demand...remove system losses...it about 1800mW
Just30:
Lunatic
Go back to the previous thread and you will see all the links I sent to you concerning this..... I'm not about to start all over again
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NelviusGrey(m): 6:29pm On Sep 03, 2021
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/09/kenyans-are-far-behind-nigerians-in-every-aspect-fani-kayode/
With the corrupt leaders and corrupt governing policies in the country...soon Kenya will be far better than Nigeria, and I'm sure the Kenyans also see the possibility of this, and that's why they have the liver to attack Nigerians na
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:33pm On Sep 03, 2021
rvp20182:
Bla de bla. Mad cow such statistics are freely available - they are no a hidden gem like your gold. Just type Ghana peak power demand...remove system losses...it about 1800mW
Since they are not hidden,why dont you take the time to find it, since you are interested..?


Madness is doing you grin grin grin


Lunatic does not even know what peak demand is ....... system losses is deducted from Available Generation and not demand..... fool grin grin
At peak hours, the demand must be served so, generation capacity is run above demand to account for the losses

That is why, at any given point, Ghana generation capacity must be 25% above peak demand...


Currently, Ghana does not have anymore surplus capacity that it pays for..
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 6:35pm On Sep 03, 2021
Generation efficiency is deducted from installed capacity. You installed capacity is 5000Mw - you only manage to generate 2800Mw - and only 1800mw or about - end up in consumers who pay the bill.
System losses are lost through rickety transmission connection - Ghana has Africa worst - losing 1/4 of all power it supplies.
That is why your electricity companies are ever broke.
Just30:
Since they are not hidden,why dont you take the time to find it, since you are interested..?


Madness is doing you grin grin grin


Lunatic does not even know what peak demand is ....... system losses is deducted from Generation and not demand..... fool grin grin
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