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jl115:
yeah we are about 12 hours from Sandton unfortunately my bru

Ooh nvm then so is that in the eastern cape or western cape

Abohboy:
Ooh nvm then so is that in the eastern cape or western cape

WC... Mossel Bay to be exact

Abohboy:
Who is we? And which dark ages? We had herbs to effectively treat malaria and we had factories to produce cloth and shoes, we had water and we had boreholes, we had houses, we had roofs, we had art, we had food, we had metal we had everything we needed to survive and had the Europeans not come we would have progressed a lot better the slave trade was extremely detrimental on the growth and development of Africa and there's a lot of evidence that shows that we were on the verge of a local industrial revolution as colonialism was beginning our industrial revolution likely would have started at the same time as or just a bit after that of the Europeans had slavery not taken place.

brother can I ask you something?
Do you know why the Roman empire was so great ??

jl115:
show them mate

This is just but a few. Based off the figures you've provided which we're not completely sure is true since you haven't provided any evidence to back your claim.

Butterfly World is the largest butterfly park in the world, the first of its kind in the Western Hemisphere, and boasts around 5000 glorious colorful live butterflies

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.miamigrillcatering.com/broward-county-parks/tradewinds-park&ved=2ahUKEwiHtrXN7fHyAhUO_RQKHQ0zAM8QFnoECH0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0tIi79zY4e3HPo_vubXu-4

.The Malay Peninsula is home to over a thousand butterfly species, one of the highest concentrations in the world. And the Penang Butterfly Farm is home to over 4000 butterflies

https://bnc.lt/gtCg/xMwDWoawpjb?itemCardId=14530451544809056363

Keep In mind that these figures are from a few years back so I'm definitely sure they're way higher now.

Not the biggest in terms of land size.

.The Niagara Parks Butterfly Conservatory is a butterfly house operated by the Niagara Parks Commission located approximately 9 kilometres (5.6 mi) north of Niagara Falls on the grounds of the Niagara Parks School of Horticulture, which is 40 hectares (99 acres) in size

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Parks_Butterfly_Conservatory

The Victoria Butterfly Gardens is located in the Greater Victoria region of Brentwood Bay, British Columbia, Canada. It covers a land area of 12000 sq.ft
The Victoria Butterfly Gardens have over 75 species (over 4,000 in population) of butterflies and moths that fly, eat and lay eggs freely inside the indoor facility

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Butterfly_Gardens

jl115:
show me a bigger butterfly sanctuary(must be covered BTW) in the Southern Hemisphere.... I did my research mate I've been building it for 10 months!!

And how sure are we that the figures you provided are actually true. You might have fabricated them just like you did with the airplane photos. But don't worry I won't ask for official documents, I'll let you keep on massaging your fragile ego with your "southern hemisphere" nonsense.

Saddamochieng00:
This is just but a few. Based off the figures you've provided which we're not completely sure is true since you haven't provided any evidence to back your claim.



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.miamigrillcatering.com/broward-county-parks/tradewinds-park&ved=2ahUKEwiHtrXN7fHyAhUO_RQKHQ0zAM8QFnoECH0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0tIi79zY4e3HPo_vubXu-4



https://bnc.lt/gtCg/xMwDWoawpjb?itemCardId=14530451544809056363

Keep In mind that these figures are from a few years back so I'm definitely sure they're way higher now.

Not the biggest in terms of land size.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Parks_Butterfly_Conservatory


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Butterfly_Gardens

thanks for proving me right since our butterfly sanctuary with 4000 Butterflies compares favorably to the biggest butterfly houses in the world and thus my statement that it is one of the largest in the world is 100% true.

Also the Niagara Parks Butterfly Conservatory isn't a closed structure.......

jl115:
I was 33000 feet in the air... And I couldn't see Joburg Not even when we were flying over Welkom which is a mere 250km from Joburg

I'm talking about the astronomical horizon not the true horizon. Try flying in a light aircraft on a clear day and tell me if you won't see Joburg. The plane you were in was way too high up in the clouds.

Saddamochieng00:
And how sure are we that the figures you provided are actually true. You might have fabricated them just like you did with the airplane photos. But don't worry I won't ask for official documents, I'll let you keep on massaging your fragile ego with your "southern hemisphere" nonsense.

aahhh so now my photo is fabricated LOL!!!

I remember at the beginning you even said I don't have a sanctuary when we open officially ill keep you posted.

Saddamochieng00:
I'm talking about the astronomical horizon not the true horizon. Try flying in a light aircraft on a clear day and tell me if you won't see Joburg. The plane you were in was way too high up in the clouds.

I flew in a jambo at 33000 feet on a clear day and could clearly see the ground..... Unfortunately I didn't see Joburg boet!!!

jl115:
aahhh so now my photo is fabricated LOL!!!

I remember at the beginning you even said I don't have a sanctuary when we open officially ill keep you posted.

Until then you can keep on comforting yourself with your fabricated lies.

jl115:
I flew in a jambo at 33000 feet on a clear day and could clearly see the ground..... Unfortunately I didn't see Joburg boet!!!

This is what I'm talking about and you would know if you ever step foot in geography class. The ground you're talking about is within your true horizon and that's why I told you to try out a light aircraft and tell me if you won't see Jozi in the distance.

PROVERBZ:
brother can I ask you something?
Do you know why the Roman empire was so great ??

Because they built upon the knowledge of the Greeks which was obtained from the Africans in Egypt and added to that they also went on to conquer those Africans and take even more of their knowledge they were violent people who stole knowledge and claimed creation of many world wonders when in reality they were built by foreigners.

Abohboy:
Because they built upon the knowledge of the Greeks which was obtained from the Africans in Egypt and added to that they also went on to conquer those Africans and take even more of their knowledge they were violent people who stole knowledge and claimed creation of many world wonders when in reality they were built by foreigners.

good!!!
So there's were as fierce as mountain lions and also as humble as the Duka(antelope)
What ever Africans in this our region knew before the white man came. They probably learnt from the Arabs.

And no offence, our herbs where shit.

PROVERBZ:
good!!!
So there's were as fierce as mountain lions and also as humble as the Duka(antelope)
What ever Africans in this our region knew before the white man came. They probably learnt from the Arabs.

And no offence, our herbs where shit.

What evidence do you have to prove this?

Saddamochieng00:
What evidence do you have to prove this?

I love theo question.
The simple answer is that our life expectancy grw from 20-30 to 54.
If we stop drinking bad water and living in cleaner cities it's going to increase more.

PROVERBZ:
good!!!
So there's were as fierce as mountain lions and also as humble as the Duka(antelope)
What ever Africans in this our region knew before the white man came. They probably learnt from the Arabs.

And no offence, our herbs where shit.

So the Arabs that only came to prominence in 622AD were teaching the Africans who were bilding monumental structures over 1400 years before them in 2000BC?

Africans conquered the Arabs before they came, we were doing these things before Christianity was even made you do realize most of the history of Rome took place before the creation of Christianity and Rome so there's no way either religion could have had an influence on early African empires or on Ancient Egypt.

And how were our herbs shit as you say? Many of them have been proven to be effective and have even been made into pills for medicinal purposes go and read about it yourself.

PROVERBZ:
I love theo question.
The simple answer is that our life expectancy grw from 20-30 to 54.
If we stop drinking bad water and living in cleaner cities it's going to increase more.

The thing you don't realize is that life expectancy data wasn't in existence at the time we're talking about so we have no evidence for any of these things. As far as we know we lived a lot longer then the Europeans did at the time and our standard of living was much better up until the 19th century when things began to fall apart almost entirely due to large swathes of war and loss of historical knowledge due to the enroachment of foreign religions and culture, and to prove this point there's actually a book that details how life was in Yoruba land for example or should I say multiple books in one from Leo Frobenius he describes a water cleaning system where by water from streams is boiled then cooled in a tiny bowl within a bowl made of clay of different thickness and this was the water they drank and guess what this practice was attached to? Oshun the river goddess so guess what happened to it? Demonized and discarded

Second example anytime there was an outbreak of disease in a community everybody was made to discard of old food, was made to double boil their water, and was made to stay in their houses and take preventive herbs until the outbreak was ended, and guess who this was attached to? Sopanna and Obaluaye the deities of Smallpox and diseases and guess what happened here again? Banned by the British and demonzied by the people

Third and last example because frankly I think i've given enough in almost every single community if not all communities it was commonplace for there to be rest days for farming, hunting and felling of trees this was done in respect of the earth or Aye the embodiment of the earth back then we believed if too many trees or animals were destroyed then the earth would become damaged and that would in turn damage our own livelihoods but lo and behold the British came in called it superstition and now we've lost over 40% of our forests to farming and felling.


So in conclusion we had great systems, we were smart, our religions were better, and we had great understanding of the plants and wildlife in and around us the only reason why things have gotten so bad is because we've lost our roots and we never built upon them had we built le.upon the knowledge we had back then we'd have been in a much better position then we are in now as a people

Saddamochieng00:
This is what I'm talking about and you would know if you ever step foot in geography class. The ground you're talking about is within your true horizon and that's why I told you to try out a light aircraft and tell me if you won't see Jozi in the distance.

how can a flat earth have a true and astronomical horizon?

FYI my friend is a pilot I've flown in single prop aircraft as well as helicopters

PROVERBZ:
I love theo question.
The simple answer is that our life expectancy grw from 20-30 to 54.
If we stop drinking bad water and living in cleaner cities it's going to increase more.

All talk but no facts to back it up. Provide a credible source proving your claim of Life expectancy between 20- 30. Don't forget evidence to show this short lifespan was caused by ailments incurable with our "weak" herbs.

In my own community people would live way beyond 80 years and those who died early was mostly from natural causes eg animal attacks, injuries sustained from war

Saddamochieng00:
Until then you can keep on comforting yourself with your fabricated lies.

dude just Stfu and get on an airplane and see it for yourself

Saddamochieng00:
All talk but no facts to back it up. Provide a credible source proving your claim of Life expectancy between 20- 30. Don't forget evidence to show this short lifespan was caused by ailments incurable with our "weak" herbs.

In my own community people would live way beyond 80 years and those who died early was mostly from natural causes eg animal attacks, injuries sustained from war

It's more the invasion of foreign diseases never seen before that devastated a lot of native populations

jl115:
how can a flat earth have a true and astronomical horizon?

FYI my friend is a pilot I've flown in single prop aircraft as well as helicopters

I don't know how you interpreted the image but the circle wasn't meant to represent a globe but rather a high point.

Abohboy:
It's more the invasion of foreign diseases never seen before that devastated a lot of native populations

That's very true. I think that's why the dude was calling our herbs weak because they couldn't handle this invasion of foreign disease. Other than that the traditional herbalists could handle anything with some even performing head surgery here in Kenya.

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/omobari-omotwe-the-highly-skilled-traditional-head-surgeons-of-the-kisii-tribe-in-kenya/amp

Abohboy:
So the Arabs that only came to prominence in 622AD were teaching the Africans who were bilding monumental structures over 1400 years before them in 2000BC?

Africans conquered the Arabs before they came, we were doing these things before Christianity was even made you do realize most of the history of Rome took place before the creation of Christianity and Rome so there's no way either religion could have had an influence on early African empires or on Ancient Egypt.

And how were our herbs shit as you say? Many of them have been proven to be effective and have even been made into pills for medicinal purposes go and read about it yourself.

u know damn well the Egyptian empire did not include sudsaharan Africa.

PROVERBZ:
u know damn well the Egyptian empire did not include sudsaharan Africa.

So who were the Dark Skinned people in the hieroglyphics? There were two types of people in Ancient Egypt and in their Hieroglyphics the copper skinned or red skinned type people and the dark skinned fellow and we know by basic knowledge that the dark skinned fellows were Africans go and read Cheikh Anta Diop all the evidence is there to show that some of the Ancient Egyptians and some of their Pharoahs were black Africans you can even see how their culture has passed onto ours and how their religion is also very similar to ours.

for example the cow tail which is used at yoruba and igbo ceremonies and held by chiefs has been seen in ancient egyptian hieroglyphics what are the chances that we have the same cultural practice as a people we are unrelated to?

There is ample evidence to show that the Yoruba and Igbo of today and many other groups in Sub Saharan Africa bare ancestry of Ancient Egyptians my personal theory is there was an indigenous population or aboriginals and then the Ancient Egyptian immigrnats came and influenced the local culture in those areas giving the end result which is seen today in thousands of diverse cultures and practices.

Saddamochieng00:
I don't know how you interpreted the image but the circle wasn't meant to represent a globe but rather a high point.

How do you suppose ships sail from California to Tokyo or Shanghai if the world is flat wouldn't they just fall off? And what benefit is there in making people believe that the earth is flat?

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Saddamochieng00:
I don't know how you interpreted the image but the circle wasn't meant to represent a globe but rather a high point.

how can a flat earth even have an horizon??

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jl115:
how can a flat earth even have an horizon??

What do you call this then or what do you mean by horizon?

jl115:
show me a bigger butterfly sanctuary(must be covered BTW) in the Southern Hemisphere.... I did my research mate I've been building it for 10 months!!

Well done, my boy.
You've done well.

PROVERBZ:
oooh space exploration would do so much for humanity. Space can play a vital role in growing of of organs, tissues, cells and so many other things which I cannot explain because I do not have detailed knowledge about them and probably even the experts. And that's more reason to keep exploring.
If Europeans didn't explore we would have still been in the dark ages and dying before the age of 30 cuz of malaria.

Space exploration has done a lot for communication technology.