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Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Tinubuadvocate: 10:46pm On Sep 16, 2021
Wasting his money you think only him building the project Dangote is just a figurehead Otedola is a stakeholder in the project.
goatandyam:
Somebody tell this mumu, he is wasting his money.

Fast approaching electric innovations will render that nonsense useless.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Nobody: 11:55pm On Sep 16, 2021
goatandyam:
Somebody tell this mumu, he is wasting his money.

Fast approaching electric innovations will render that nonsense useless.
Ethno-religious bigot, he is mumu just because he isn't ur kinsman undecided
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by SarkinYarki: 12:29am On Sep 17, 2021
illmatic101:
The rich don't actually use their money to invest. They use their influence.
He doesn't have 19 billion anywhere ..don't play yourself
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Doubleoh7: 6:31am On Sep 17, 2021
unbitchable:
Here is the summary.
Chief reason am naa, anywhere there's intense competition he no dey survive am. Tried juice, e no go. Entered noodles, indomie no gree am see road, he sold off and left.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by illmatic101(m): 6:33am On Sep 17, 2021
SarkinYarki:
He doesn't have 19 billion anywhere ..don't play yourself
What are you trying to say? Did you really understand my post?
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by NewDelhi(m): 7:04am On Sep 17, 2021
chariisGRACE:
undecided

Him no hire Quantity Surveyor to tellam how far the project go be, Abi na inflation reach him side so?n



True, my guy.

A man told me Dangote is not a good business man, that he can't stand competition.

He is only enjoying the monopoly that the FG (Fulani Government) have mapped for him.

A good business man should have an hindsight on the future of the kind of business he does or is planning to do.

Oil will be minimally important in the future. Green energy is the future. Otedola had this hindsight that was why he cashed out.

#Wisdom
The way some of you reason ehn. And you think Nigeria is a country that will easily adopt green energy? Or will even consider adopting it? A country where majority of the elites have oil blocks to their name? Infact I'll tell you dangote is a very smart business man. He knows most African countries and other third world countries won't be able to maintain it, the cost of producing green energy is cheaper but it's maintenance is more expensive in the long run. We've not even solved the issue of household electricity , you're talking of green energy to millions of auto mobiles. His refinery will be a major hub of fossil fuel in Africa, Asia and south America. Stop deceiving yourselves about green energy in Nigeria. The elites will never let that happen . What will happen to their oil blocks? Lol.. wake up.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Perfectbeing(m): 9:04am On Sep 17, 2021
goatandyam:
Somebody tell this mumu, he is wasting his money.

Fast approaching electric innovations will render that nonsense useless.
You think Dangote doesn't have economists and statistians advising him under his payroll. What makes you think you're more knowledgeable than them?

Africa and some part of the world will still keep on using fossil fuel for at least 2 decades. Dangote will see his ROI long before then
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by RiceProducers: 9:08am On Sep 17, 2021
Omooba77:
I pray this project is not abandoned. If FG is wise, invest in modular refineries as being done in Saudi and other saner clime..
Saudi is not investing in modular refineries. Stop mis information and half assed suggestions. Modular Refineries are unsafe and don't make money.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Perfectbeing(m): 9:14am On Sep 17, 2021
Saudi Arabia, Angola and some other countries with oil are still building new refineries.. All those business analysts saying Dangote is a dumb businessman for investing in a refinery... Is Saudi Arabia (and the other countries) dumb like Dangote? Business analysts my foot..
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Perfectbeing(m): 9:16am On Sep 17, 2021
RiceProducers:
Saudi is not investing in modular refineries. Stop mis information and half assed suggestions. Modular Refineries are unsafe and don't make money.
Other countries with oil are still investing in refineries. Thank God they're not African nations else some people would insult their forefathers.

Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by RiceProducers: 9:17am On Sep 17, 2021
NewDelhi:
The way some of you reason ehn. And you think Nigeria is a country that will easily adopt green energy? Or will even consider adopting it? A country where majority of the elites have oil blocks to their name? Infact I'll tell you dangote is a very smart business man. He knows most African countries and other third world countries won't be able to maintain it, the cost of producing green energy is cheaper but it's maintenance is more expensive in the long run. We've not even solved the issue of household electricity , you're talking of green energy to millions of auto mobiles. His refinery will be a major hub of fossil fuel in Africa, Asia and south America. Stop deceiving yourselves about green energy in Nigeria. The elites will never let that happen . What will happen to their oil blocks? Lol.. wake up.
Electric cars are going to be made with impressive economies of scale. They will come very cheap and be very user friendly. They will also have fantastic integration with mobile phones and with new 5G mobile comms.

You can see that Nigerian oil block owners are completely irrelevant to the tsunami coming the same way Shell, ENI, Total and SinoPec are irrelevant in a world where Tesla, Huawei and others are coming up.

The big issue is the $Trillions that Biden wants to pour into renewable energy. All the money in the entire world is going to line up in that direction.
Forget Nigerian oligarchs.
What might save them would be CNG/LPG fueled charging stations for EVs. However, the cheapness, ubiquitousness and lifestyle advantages of EVs will spur investments in charging stations independent of them anyway.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Perfectbeing(m): 9:19am On Sep 17, 2021
Even people that got F9 in Economics in WAEC don turn economist on top Dangote refinery.. grin
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by RiceProducers: 9:26am On Sep 17, 2021
Perfectbeing:
Other countries with oil are still investing in refineries. Thank God they're not African nations else some people would insult their forefathers.
These are not modular refineries. There is a two decade hybrid space that fossil fuel cars and EVs will co-exist but after that it is bye bye petrol. Diesel will have another 20 year run with natural gas. Then final bye bye.

If you read the business case for new refineries, you will probably see plans to retrofit more into Petrochemicals after the first ten years. Petrochemicals will still use existing the crackers but product streams would be more of feedstock for petrochems
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Perfectbeing(m): 9:30am On Sep 17, 2021
RiceProducers:
These are not modular refineries. There is a two decade hybrid space that fossil fuel cars and EVs will co-exist but after that it is bye bye petrol. Diesel will have another 20 year run with natural gas. Then final bye bye.

If you read the business case for new refineries, you will probably see plans to retrofit more into Petrochemicals after the first ten years. Petrochemicals will still use existing the crackers but product streams would be more of feedstock for petrochems
Is Dangote refinery a modular refinery?
Seems I quoted the wrong person...
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Omooba77: 10:00am On Sep 17, 2021
RiceProducers:
Saudi is not investing in modular refineries. Stop mis information and half assed suggestions. Modular Refineries are unsafe and don't make money.
What is modular refinery? Do you understand many of the refineries in the middle East are not constructed on ground many of them are done outside the sites, but assembled in place. Go and check Saudi Aramco is doing.
The profit margin for refineries are minimal. Reason profits come after long operation. I still have my reservations over Dangote refineries.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Perfectbeing(m): 11:49am On Sep 17, 2021
abhosts:
Yet some naive Nigerians believe someone taking huge loans in USD currency would be offer cheaper fuel compared to the cost they are paying now.
Well, at least the pressure on our forex will reduce since we'll no longer need to import refined fuel. So it's still a good thing.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Idiko1: 12:02pm On Sep 17, 2021
Is Dangote building a country? I guess Nigeria has issue in every aspect of mankind.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Omooba77: 12:06pm On Sep 17, 2021
Idiko1:
Is Dangote building a country? I guess Nigeria has issue in every aspect of mankind.
Projects in Nigeria cost at least twice what obtains elsewhere in the world.
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Perfectbeing(m): 12:17pm On Sep 17, 2021
For those that like quoting Prov 22:7 out of point, saying borrowers are slaves to their owners, how many of you can look Dangote in his eyes and call him a slave? grin
Re: Dangote Seeks Loan For Refinery As Construction Costs Hit $19bn by Awinneralways: 9:24pm On Sep 18, 2021
NewDelhi:
The way some of you reason ehn. And you think Nigeria is a country that will easily adopt green energy? Or will even consider adopting it? A country where majority of the elites have oil blocks to their name? Infact I'll tell you dangote is a very smart business man. He knows most African countries and other third world countries won't be able to maintain it, the cost of producing green energy is cheaper but it's maintenance is more expensive in the long run. We've not even solved the issue of household electricity , you're talking of green energy to millions of auto mobiles. His refinery will be a major hub of fossil fuel in Africa, Asia and south America. Stop deceiving yourselves about green energy in Nigeria. The elites will never let that happen . What will happen to their oil blocks? Lol.. wake up.
No offense but you reason like an illiterate.
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