₦airaland Forum

Just30:
You cant be a capitalist society and have an equal society.. They most capitalist societies are the most unequal societies in the world...

Socialist societies are more equal and they have a slower wealth gap progression.

and yet capitalist countries sit at the top when it comes to income equality....

Hueman:
Those countries are wealthy because of colonialism not capitalism. Show me a country that didn’t colonize and became powerful like China or usssr.

Luxembourg, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Australia, Canada, Singapore ect ect

Hueman:
It’s also quiet strange how they got their wealth from colonialism

Australia? Norway? Sweden? Switzerland? Denmark? Singapore? And just naming a few

Hueman:
I can’t believe you’re trying to convince yourself that life expectancy has nothing to do with quality standards of living. do you even live in Africa. Sub Saharan Africa is a shithole. Most of us are trying to leave. I’ve already left and I’m happy about it. Togo isn’t in any war, but if Afghanistan are living longer than them it says a lot about their government. It says a lot about capitalism but you don’t want to admit it cause you’re a coward.

By the way we compared pictures of the city and life expectancy to say which is better, so don’t lie and say I only picked 1 metric. What more do you need. Or are you gonna say Nigeria is better because of “GDP” LMAOOO.

Africa ain't for pussies...... In the movie blood diamond one of the characters says the following:

"This red earth, it's in our skin. The Shona say the colour comes from all the blood that's been spilled fighting over the land. This is home. You'll never leave this place."

Funnily enough us Boere have by far the lowest immigration rate than any ethnic group in Sub Sahara Africa.... Yet some like kikuyu1 will still say we ain't African

jl115:
Africa ain't for pussies...... In the movie blood diamond one of the characters says the following:

"This red earth, it's in our skin. The Shona say the colour comes from all the blood that's been spilled fighting over the land. This is home. You'll never leave this place."

Funnily enough us Boere have by far the lowest immigration rate than any ethnic group in Sub Sahara Africa.... Yet some like kikuyu1 will still say we ain't African

Let's just say you Kaburus ( Boers) are just stuck here just like rest of africans.otherwuse if you had a chance to jump out you would have done that long time ago..an keep on praising the so call caoitalism .just look at your country..the poverty I see while the minority own everything..do you think if SA practiced socialism we could have those white ghettos

mtisTheQubit:
Let's just say you Kaburus ( Boers) [b]are just stuck here just like rest of africans.[/b]otherwuse if you had a chance to jump out you would have done that long time ago..an keep on praising the so call caoitalism .just look at your country..the poverty I see while the minority own everything..do you think if SA practiced socialism we could have those white ghettos

actually statistically Boere have it the easiest when it comes to immigration since they on average are the wealthiest ethnic group in SA possibly even Sub Sahara Africa..... And yet we still remain

Secondly its been the more populist/socialist policies that have destroyed our economy not capitalism..... So yeah

jl115:
Luxembourg, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Australia, Canada, Singapore ect ect

Forget about Singapore for once an concentrate on the rest..They all in a way benefited from colonialism.where do you think those white Canadians an Australians came from? Read about how Switzerland become rich ..they all benefited in one way or another you African

jl115:
actually statistically Boere have it the easiest when it comes to immigration since they on average are the wealthiest ethnic group in SA possibly even Sub Sahara Africa..... And yet we still remain

Secondly its been the more populist/socialist policies that have destroyed our economy not capitalism..... So yeah

Yes like you just stated Capitalism only benefits the top layer .in ths case the Boers Now I know why y've not jumped out an why you defend Capitalism coz ya a beneficiary of the system

Where is that Kaburu.

jl115:
and yet capitalist countries sit at the top when it comes to income equality....

there is no Capitalist society at the top when it comes to income equality...

They are all socialist nations .... Income equality (equity of incomes) is one of the Hallmark of socialism.

jl115:
they literally aren't!!! they have a 100% free market economy, prices are not dictated by the government, people can start there own private businesses and employ people.


"The Nordic Model
The Nordic model is a term coined to capture the unique combination of free-market capitalism and social benefits
,The model is underpinned by a capitalist economy"

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/100714/nordic-model-pros-and-cons.asp

Obviously you simply can't comprehend the difference between social benefits and socialism.... Its fvcking sad if I'm honest

you have a limited view of socialism and that is why you are struggling.... And it's sad

You are even confusing socialism with a mixed economy or a command economy where the government set prices of goods and services.

Start learning

gallivant:
Ghana is irrelevant, little country.

Ghana is 300 times more relevant and prosperous than ur cesspit Kenya

mtisTheQubit:
Forget about Singapore for once an concentrate on the rest..They all in a way benefited from colonialism.where do you think those white Canadians an Australians came from? Read about how Switzerland become rich ..they all benefited in one way or another you African

you are contradicting yourself, you said capitalist countries got rich through colonialism.... Now you are saying colonised countries got rich through colonialism.....so what is it now??

theInterpreter:
Nigeria is 100 times better than north Korea

North Korea is a crazy mixture of no freedom, dictatorship,poverty

China is a mixture of wealth, little freedom

North Korea should never be a model country
Even if they have a life expectancy of 200 years

The hueman guy has lost it totally

Nigeria is actually better than many countries
But we have been brainwashed into thinking "anywhere else but Nigeria" is good

Nobody should in this era should desire to be born not to talk of live in North Korea because majority of North Korean citizens are fleeing to China everyday despite the possibility of getting killed while crossing the militarized river separating China from North Korea.

jl115:
and yet capitalist countries sit at the top when it comes to income equality....

u guys said d same thing.....

mtisTheQubit:
Yes like you just stated Capitalism only benefits the top layer .in ths case the Boers Now I know why y've not jumped out an why you defend Capitalism coz ya a beneficiary of the system

capitalism is an economic system which by definition promotes freedom and hardwork, don't confuse political oppression like apartheid with capitalism, in fact the Apartheid government was more socialist in nature than the current one.

Just30:
there is no Capitalist society at the top when it comes to income equality...

They are all socialist nations .... Income equality (equity of incomes) is one of the Hallmark of socialism.

Denmark, Norway, New Zealand, Sweden, Switzerland.... All capitalist countries mate

theenchanter:
u guys said d same thing.....

I said income equality not income inequality!!!

Just30:
you have a limited view of socialism and that is why you are struggling.... And it's sad

You are even confusing socialism with a mixed economy or a command economy where the government set prices of goods and services.

Start learning

And yet you think the Nordic system is socialist after what you said above

The fvcking irony

jl115:
I said income equality not income inequality!!!

oga, I just want u guys to sheath ur sword.

Abohboy:
Communism has never been properly practiced

Communism can never be properly practised successfully. It's flawed.

forgiveness:
Nobody should in this era should desire to be born not to talk of live in North Korea because majority of North Korean citizens are fleeing to China everyday despite the possibility of getting killed while crossing the militarized river separating China from North Korea.

I think at this stage I have to stop responding to that guy.

mtisTheQubit:
Yes like you just stated Capitalism only benefits the top layer .in ths case the Boers Now I know why y've not jumped out an why you defend Capitalism coz ya a beneficiary of the system

What are you even talking about, Man?

Under capitalism, even a very poor man can start his own business small and build it up little by little. Under capitalism, you own the means of production and leverage on it. Someone like Sanders could start a roadside chicken joint and later turn it to KFC. You can't enjoy such privilege in any other system as much as you can get it under capitalism. There are black owned businesses in South Africa that are doing well.

jl115:
you are contradicting yourself, you said capitalist countries got rich through colonialism.... Now you are saying colonised countries got rich through colonialism.....so what is it now??

The so called Australians or Canadians were never the natives of those lands..They were colonialists who felt entitled to stick around just like Kaburus of south africa.so don't twist things

jl115:
capitalism is an economic system which by definition promotes freedom and hardwork, don't confuse political oppression like apartheid with capitalism, in fact the Apartheid government was more socialist in nature than the current one.

So funny so apartheid SA was socialist in nature..must have targeted only specific group coz blacks might not agree with you on that

Hueman:
It’s also quiet strange how they got their wealth from colonialism

Germany and Italy didn't get their wealth from colonialism.

Japan didn't get its wealth from colonialism.

Hueman:
I can’t believe you’re trying to convince yourself that life expectancy has nothing to do with quality standards of living. do you even live in Africa. Sub Saharan Africa is a shithole. Most of us are trying to leave. I’ve already left and I’m happy about it. Togo isn’t in any war, but if Afghanistan are living longer than them it says a lot about their government. It says a lot about capitalism but you don’t want to admit it cause you’re a coward.

By the way we compared pictures of the city and life expectancy to say which is better, so don’t lie and say I only picked 1 metric. What more do you need. Or are you gonna say Nigeria is better because of “GDP” LMAOOO.

If poor Bangladesh has a higher life expectancy than Russia, and degraded Afghanistan has a higher life expectancy than Togo that should tell you life expectancy alone can not be used to judge how prosperous a country is.

I can also choose nice pictures of Nigeria and compare with those of north Korea and bust your claim but to what end? If you choose to remain bitter, inferior and ignorant, I will just let you wallow in your state.

Great news the eko energy estate is back on track the first part of the phase a, which is the residential, is almost done.
The second part is the shopping mall.

While the phase b is the office building completley covered in glass.

The project initially stalled because of politics. It's owned by intels a company atiku, runner up of the presidential elections has a little bit of influence over.
Intels are charge of all the ports in Nigeria bar the new lekki deep sea port.
And the Nigerian government was trying to end the monopoly.

obaaderemi:
What are you even talking about, Man?

Under capitalism, even a very poor man can start his own business small and build it up little by little. Under capitalism, you own the means of production and leverage on it. Someone like Sanders could start a roadside chicken joint and later turn it to KFC. You can't enjoy such privilege in any other system as much as you can get it under capitalism. There are black owned businesses in South Africa that are doing well.

An not really against capitalism as per only the extreme one which bring inequality in society..an most of so called old money capitalist in Africa are just bunch of folks who benefited from corruption or benefited from dealings with colonialists..

jl115:
and yet capitalist countries sit at the top when it comes to income equality....

They sit at the top due to continued oppression and the capitalist societies that are at top are not fully capitalist like England they embraced aspects of Socialism for their welfare systems.

obaaderemi:
Germany and Italy didn't get their wealth from colonialism.

Japan didn't get its wealth from colonialism.

We can't ignore the fact ths countries plundered other countries. Even the Japanese

mtisTheQubit:
We can't ignore the fact ths countries plundered other countries. Even the Japanese

I know but Japan didn't get its wealth from that.