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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 9:46pm On Sep 17, 2021
Hueman:
Yes ohh they’re doing so many great things. I want to be the one to say that I’ve known about their party from the beginning. Read the manifesto and tell me what you think about it.
I joined back in January but I haven't really been involved in party activity since April

I've read the manifesto it's quite interesting but it seems i'm not as radical as the party leaders i'm more of a social democrat like Azikiwe and Awolowo
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:57pm On Sep 17, 2021
forgiveness:
Korea is poor, wretched and miserable. This is a known fact.
A country that poor and miserable wouldn’t give a Bleep about it’s infrastructure. Like come on. If North Korea is so bad why don’t they let their cities rot like ours. Why do you people love ignoring reality. I’m begging you please think dialectically. I’m not saying North Korea is heaven on earth but the west greatly exaggerated what’s happening there. The west lied about so many things you don’t even see them talking about Africa the way they do North Korea. You would think Africa is paradise on earth when you listen to them talk about North Korea. Are there even civil wars in that countryhuh
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:59pm On Sep 17, 2021
Abohboy:
I joined back in January but I haven't really been involved in party activity since April

I've read the manifesto it's quite interesting but it seems i'm not as radical as the party leaders i'm more of a social democrat like Azikiwe and Awolowo
That’s fine. We need a coalition of all the left leaning parties in Nigeria. Social democracy is better than what we currently have.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by forgiveness: 10:24pm On Sep 17, 2021
Hueman:
A country that poor and miserable wouldn’t give a Bleep about it’s infrastructure. Like come on. If North Korea is so bad why don’t they let their cities rot like ours. Why do you people love ignoring reality. I’m begging you please think dialectically. I’m not saying North Korea is heaven on earth but the west greatly exaggerated what’s happening there. The west lied about so many things you don’t even see them talking about Africa the way they do North Korea. You would think Africa is paradise on earth when you listen to them talk about North Korea. Are there even civil wars in that countryhuh
How many good cities are in North Korea?

If we do rating of cities between Nigeria and North Korea?

Pyongyang will be the only city in top 10 after placing 3rd.

North Korea is shithole.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 11:24pm On Sep 17, 2021
Hueman:
That’s fine. We need a coalition of all the left leaning parties in Nigeria. Social democracy is better than what we currently have.
True it is but right now Nigeria isn't ready for the radical left it's likely Nigeria will remain a centre left/Social Democratic society for a long time to come and this should serve us right for the time being.

Personally I don't think MOP can win any meaningful election their numbers aren't large enough, too many Nigerians are scared of Marxism in general and they have no influential names in the party but there is a new massive political party currently in the works with the ideology of Social Democracy and centre left on the spectrum and currently already four parties have joined it and it seems that this party may be the viable third force us Nigerians have been looking for this whole time.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 12:43am On Sep 18, 2021
Show me an estate like this in Kenya and I will make sure to never show my face here again.
Watch to the end and pay attention to details.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-vun8AvS4
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:57am On Sep 18, 2021
Abohboy:
True it is but right now Nigeria isn't ready for the radical left it's likely Nigeria will remain a centre left/Social Democratic society for a long time to come and this should serve us right for the time being.

Personally I don't think MOP can win any meaningful election their numbers aren't large enough, too many Nigerians are scared of Marxism in general and they have no influential names in the party but there is a new massive political party currently in the works with the ideology of Social Democracy and centre left on the spectrum and currently already four parties have joined it and it seems that this party may be the viable third force us Nigerians have been looking for this whole time.
Are you talking about the party sowere is leading?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:02am On Sep 18, 2021
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 2:06am On Sep 18, 2021
forgiveness:
How many good cities are in North Korea?

If we do rating of cities between Nigeria and North Korea?

Pyongyang will be the only city in top 10 after placing 3rd.

North Korea is shithole.
Even rural North Korea looks livable. How much can be said for Africa

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 2:07am On Sep 18, 2021
Vlain:
Show me an estate like this in Kenya and I will make sure to never show my face here again.
Watch to the end and pay attention to details.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-vun8AvS4
That estate is so badly planned. Whole community looks like a money laundering scheme.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:31am On Sep 18, 2021
Porthacourt, South South Nigeria 2021


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3-7npUdEE
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:38am On Sep 18, 2021
Lagos Blu line rail project: construction update

A system intergrated with light rail, BRT system and water transportation


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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 3:06am On Sep 18, 2021
@rvP and other Kenyans, here is kano state , a state in northern Nigeria , the development in this state has been massive and progressive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qc6SAxv6vo
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 4:23am On Sep 18, 2021
Hueman:
That estate is so badly planned. Whole community looks like a money laundering scheme.
mtcheeeew
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
Hueman:
Even rural North Korea looks livable. How much can be said for Africa
How do you live without electricity and water supply, no roads and cars in rural north Korea ?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:48am On Sep 18, 2021
Appisko:
U have to read about Japanese empire and colonialism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_colonial_empire
You should expect me to know about the Japanese empire, brother.

I know a thing or two about it since secondary school days and I never said they didn't have colonies. But for how long? Japan began to rise and build its foundation for wealth with the Meiji Restoration. With or without colonies, Japan would still have been great.

Besides Japan lost all its colonies in about 50 years. Now compare that with the Chinese empire that was the longest lasting empire in the history of man.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:00am On Sep 18, 2021
Hueman:
Germany and Italy had colonies in Africa. Japan also had colonies and are have been part of the Anglo sphere of influence after WW2
German and Italian colonies in Africa were largely unproductive. While others were focusing on empire building, Germany focused on Europe and used it to build its wealth. Germany, Italy and to an extent Japan, built their wealth through serious planning and not on the back of colonialism like England, Portugal, French and others like them.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:01am On Sep 18, 2021
Abohboy:
Because of it's position in the world did I not mention that? This is literally part of the GCSE course in England there's a whole topic on Singapore and the main point is that 20% of the worlds trade goes through the strait of malacca which is where Singapore is all they had to do was build a port and the money flew in enmasse
is Singapore the only country in the Malacca strait?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:04am On Sep 18, 2021
Hueman:
Ewwww you’re a white African. Sorry us real Africans will never accept you after all the harms and damages you’ve caused on our continent. I don’t mind seeing Indians as Africans but white people it’s over. U people have caused too much problems. The only white Africans I respect are the ones that commit class suicide and dedicate their life to dismantling the oppressive system their ancestors built. If not you can shut it and leave us alone. sad
luckily I don't care about the "blame the whitey" mentality neither do I care about your approval cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:05am On Sep 18, 2021
Hueman:
Bangladesh and russia has the same life expectancy. What we need to make sure is if everyone has food to eat and if everyone has shelter. That’s the most important part for now. We shouldn’t worry about gdp because those are not important. We had better standards of living in pre colonial Africa and gdp did not exist then. We need to change our priorities as Africans and acknowledge what matters to us.
If we reduce corruption and focus more on SME, people would be richer. And of course we need to grow our GDP, it's important. A GDP of $400bn for a population of around 200m is shitty.

Look at Turkey for example. It has a big GDP and population isn't too high.
Capitalism can still give us this. Truth is: the capitalist countries are the richest. Even China is below America on the gini coefficient for measuring equality.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:05am On Sep 18, 2021
Hueman:
On the top of my head I can tell you that Australia and Canada has a bunch of mining companies in Africa destroying the continent. Switzerland is used as a money laundering front for billionaires and corrupt politicians. Sigapore is a tax heaven. Norway got oil companies destroying the niger delta. Sweden got multi national companies using child labour.
but China ain't destroying Africa grin grin grin grin...... Oh the fvcking Irony grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:08am On Sep 18, 2021
forgiveness:
They all stole. Japan used live Koreans as experiments to develop their medical institution.

They colonized many Asian countries.

Germany colonized some parts of Cameroon and Nigeria. Including the whole Togo land.

Same with Italy. They colonized Libya, Somalia, and Eritrea but they all lost all after world war 2 defeat.
Just look at those colonies. grin

Japan's colonialism didn't last. They were already rich before colonialism and they lost the colonies after WW11.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:09am On Sep 18, 2021
Abohboy:
It did actually get a substantial amount of wealth from its occupation of China
Mba.
The colonization of China was short. It was rich before then.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:12am On Sep 18, 2021
Just30:
Japan got majority of it wealth from plundering South East Asia
No.
Japan made rapid strides to industrialize
after the Meiji Restoration of 1868,
boosting its transportation and
communication networks and
revolutionizing its light industry by the turn
of the century.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:13am On Sep 18, 2021
jl115:
but China ain't destroying Africa grin grin grin grin...... Oh the fvcking Irony grin grin
grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:43am On Sep 18, 2021
Abohboy:
Nope not America, England, Germany, Italy have free healthcare systems as well asfree education and very good systems for unemployment and social housing, America on the other hand is almost completely capitalist there's no sign of free healthcare and rarely any free education from the government and the richest of the rich don't even get taxed in America they found a looophole and exploited it the same doesn't happen in Europe which is why most people who want to remain rich go to America like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos etc. America doesn't have scent of clear socialism in its system
I bet you've heard of medicare. America spends billions of dollars every year to subsidise healthcare. That's a sign of socialism.

America gives out unemployment benefits, another sign of socialism.

I am sure you've heard of k- 12 in the united states, so I don't know what you mean by "there's rarely any free education in America."

America is capitalist but with aspects of socialism, like I said earlier. wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:45am On Sep 18, 2021
Abohboy:
Germany and Italy did actually get a lot of wealth from colonialism and from the slave trades and in the case of Japan it was one of the countries that America was willing to allow to develop there have been multiple times in Africa where foreign countries support coups or revolutions to destabilize the nations because they're progress affects their development for example if Congo were to become developed and stop exporting it's raw minerals and they choose to start processing them then that would have a massive effect on the manufacturing sector in the other countries or if Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria and Cameroon chose to stop exporting raw cocoa and only allowed indigenous companies to process them then the European countries would lost tens of billions of dollars there are multiple other examples but in a lot of cases the west hasn't allowed African countries to progress because it would affect their economy if they were allowed to develop.

And in the case of Nigeria I hope you know that Obasanjo worked very closely with the CIA and the American government and was able to destroy many leftist ideology groups, labour groups and kill anyone that stood against him and America including Fela's mother and I hope you know that Obasanjo was a main part of the reason for why Awolowo didn't become president of Nigeria and I think we all know that Awolowo would have changed the nation greatly when he was the premier of the western region thousands of industries were opened in Ibadan, Ore, Abeokuta and Ijebu Ode as well as Lagos, there was free education, free healthcare there was electricity and there was tap water to a significant amount of houses had he become president he would have initiated the same thing across the nation and brought back the regional democracy but obviously that wasn't in the best interest of America so they got Obasanjo to play politics against him and we ended up with Shagari instead who although good didn't introduce enough radical economic reforms like Awolowo would have.
Germany and Italy didn't get their wealth through colonialism. I don't know what kind of wealth you could get from 19th century Namibia and Ethiopia. huh
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:48am On Sep 18, 2021
obaaderemi:
No.
all through out the 1800s, imperialJapan was roaming the entire East Asia looting
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:53am On Sep 18, 2021
Folks only two countries almost depended entirely on colonialism for their advancement - Spain and Portugal - the rest had very robust local economies based on industrialization - and the colonies were mostly a drain on their economies. Start with Britian - nearly all colonies were in the red - and needed injection of money from Britain. In fact US, Japan and German were able to avoid colonial cost/drain and grow faster - than Britain and France - who had to shoulder huge price trying to manage their mostly loss making colonies.

What made Britain, Germany, Japan. ITALY and France rich - INDUSTRALIZATION.

Now study the two European countries - that did not - industralize - but depend on plundering the gold and minerals of South America - Spain and Portugal.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 10:02am On Sep 18, 2021
Hueman:
Are you talking about the party sowere is leading?
No there's a completely new one they're bringing together other 38 political parties in Nigeria to form a singular mega party it should be unveilee on October 1st and registered very soon.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 10:02am On Sep 18, 2021
Just30:
all through out the 1800s, imperialJapan was roaming the entire East Asia looting
False. grin
Japan did not have a colony outside its land until 1894.
And by 1945 it was all gone.
Meanwhile, Japan's real wealth started with the Meiji Restoration in 1860s.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:04am On Sep 18, 2021
Correction - Japan, Italy and German lost their colonies in 1st World war - in 1918-1920. Without a drain of colonies - they were subsequently able to grow very fast until they started another war in 1945 - a re-match of the 1st world war.
obaaderemi:
False. grin
Japan did not have a colony outside its land until 1894.
And by 1945 it was all gone.
Meanwhile, Japan's real wealth started with the Meiji Restoration in 1860s.
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