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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:43pm On Sep 17, 2021
patrickmuf:
Saying that Klopp needs to deliberately set up to cover for him was spot on by Roland17. Liverpool have the best wing backs in the league so, a switch to 3 5 2 will really favor them more so than Chelsea as it will mask the defensive lapses of TAA whilst promoting his attacking play...
Saying his game is more suited to attacking is different from calling him a poor defender and comparing him to Eboue implies that he is a defensive liability which is definitely false...for instance TAA is a better defender than walker is a wingback, so if walker is not a poor wingback how can TAA be a poor defender??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:48pm On Sep 17, 2021
CAPdan21:

Saying his game is more suited to attacking is different from calling him a poor defender and comparing him to Eboue implies that he is a defensive liability which is definitely false...for instance TAA is a better defender than walker is a wingback, so if walker is not a poor wingback how can TAA be a poor defender??
It's all about perspective here, I rate Maguire as a poor defender even though he does some things right same with AWB...

TAA is defensively poor based on the eye test when Liverpool come up against their equals. Robertson does attack as much as him but you hardly find him wanting defensively...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:04pm On Sep 17, 2021
AnfieldFan:


So far this season...
is that per game? or is it James that played half the minutes of TAA
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 7:27pm On Sep 17, 2021
airmark:


They will return to status quo as it was obvious Milan used his bombing forward to score them. Rest.

So he attacks in the absence of VVD as against what you want us to believe?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:40pm On Sep 17, 2021
CAPdan21:

Saying his game is more suited to attacking is different from calling him a poor defender and comparing him to Eboue implies that he is a defensive liability which is definitely false...for instance TAA is a better defender than walker is a wingback, so if walker is not a poor wingback how can TAA be a poor defender??

Exactly what I expected them to say.

How can you say he is abysmally poor defensively when his defensive stats is still okay?

He is the weakest link in the Liverpool's defense doesn't automatically translate to him being defensively poor.

The matter don tire me sef grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:49pm On Sep 17, 2021
timbros:


So he attacks in the absence of VVD as against what you want us to believe?

And it ended in goals conceded. Klopp definitely must have seen it and not gamble again.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:50pm On Sep 17, 2021
Roland17:


Yesterday, I talk am say TAA na just expensive Eboue, nothing else. Klopp knows this, yet remains stubborn because he wants to prove a point. If Liverpool will not play a back 3 and use TAA as WB then he will continue to struggle and get exposed at the back. He needs to be pushed higher up the pitch. When you speak of TAA, for the most part, no one talks about his defending, it is what he does in the final third, his crossing and goals (Does that not sound like a winger or RM)..More so, the way Liverpool is set up kind of favors him when they have the ball, however, when they not in possession, he looks lost. He even struggles to invert to help the CBs, neither is he aware of his opponents position. He is lacking defensively and it will continue to cost him..I am not hating on the man oh! Just stating the obvious..

No VVD to cover for him and he leaked goals expectedly as he forgot no VVD on ground.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 8:11pm On Sep 17, 2021
airmark:


And it ended in goals conceded. Klopp definitely must have seen it and not gamble again.

We are not talking if his attacking has consequences or not.

You specifically said TAA don't attack when VVD is not around. Do you still stand by that?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:53pm On Sep 17, 2021
kushercain:


How old was he? Barely 19 and had health problems off field. He didn't even get mych game time and just played a season so wettin you dey yarn undecided

How old was Haaland when he entered the league? If you play well you will get gametime
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:54pm On Sep 17, 2021
MorataFC:
The difference between JT and Mustafi is minimal?

Very minimal as Terry was an otu player like Mustafi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Silentgroper(m): 10:26pm On Sep 17, 2021
airmark:


And it ended in goals conceded. Klopp definitely must have seen it and not gamble again.
Minemrys... Just read this for Godsake.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Silentgroper(m): 10:39pm On Sep 17, 2021
iamoyindamola:

I don't know na, I can only compare him with the notable RBs in EPL
That's why I said bring it out so far we are rating base on defense and not attack
And yes he's very very poor defensively
Is tomiyasu nt poor defensively tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mecka: 10:49pm On Sep 17, 2021
BlueMann:
Kante is back. Who drops out tho?

Kiva had been our best plater these past two games, Jorgo had been steady too.

Don't think TT will throw Kante back in anyways. Maybe Jovacic against Spurs, then Saul & Kante against Villa.
I prefer a kovajorg partnership. Kante looked poor against Liverpool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 10:52pm On Sep 17, 2021
timbros:


We are not talking if his attacking has consequences or not.

You specifically said TAA don't attack when VVD is not around. Do you still stand by that?
An EPL commentator said same and not just for TAA but involving Robertson too...You definitely do not know more than he does...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:20pm On Sep 17, 2021
For those who are better informed please enlighten me on what problems the CBN has with abokifx ? Shebi the guy just dey report latest rates ni

Someone said its like Arsenal fans banning livescore
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 11:48pm On Sep 17, 2021
raumdeuter:
For those who are better informed please enlighten me on what problems the CBN has with abokifx ? Shebi the guy just dey report latest rates ni

Someone said its like Arsenal fans banning livescore

Naaaa.. The CBN just realized they need to fight dirty if they are to get some level of normalcy with the exchange rate. While the economy and inflation rate in Nigeria is horrible, we have secondary influencers like Abokifx who are inflating and exaggerating the Naira/ Dollar situation. I am in no way shape or form saying @abokifx is the problem with Nigeria poor economy.. nobody should engage me in such..

Abokifx is pretty much setting the exchange rate in the black market. I don’t think the CBN have enough machinery/ discipline and will to eliminate or totally control the black market but they can reduce the exaggerated rates which is pretty much being determined by @Abokifx.

This situation leads to triple inflation which affects the price of goods in the market. When people ask for exchange rates, no one is asking for the CBN rate, people go on @abokifx and then go with it. It also leads to hoarding of the dollar which of course increases scarcity.. Guess what scarcity does? Your guess is as good as mine.

I have never been a fan of this government but this is one I support. We have too many secondary influencers who are determining the exchange rate. The CBN have to cut the wings of the BDCs and people like Abokifx to bring some semblance of sanity to the black market. They also have to hold banks accountable, I mean, they have to be strict with banks..

The black market situation of forex is horrible in comparison to the black market of fuel.. Nigeria is just tooooooo corrupt!

I wait to read other comments because me sef wan learn.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:56pm On Sep 17, 2021
patrickmuf:
An EPL commentator said same and not just for TAA but involving Robertson too...You definitely do not know more than he does...

Said what exactly?

You don't get the discussion. Airmark said that TAA do not attack whenever VVD is not on the pitch. The issue is not if attacking will be detrimental or not.

Did TAA attack AC Milan? Was VVD in the pitch?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:25am On Sep 18, 2021
Roland17:


Naaaa.. The CBN just realized they need to fight dirty if they are to get some level of normalcy with the exchange rate. While the economy and inflation rate in Nigeria is horrible, we have secondary influencers like Abokifx who are inflating and exaggerating the Naira/ Dollar situation. I am in no way shape or form saying @abokifx is the problem with Nigeria poor economy.. nobody should engage me in such..

Abokifx is pretty much setting the exchange rate in the black market. I don’t think the CBN have enough machinery/ discipline and will to eliminate or totally control the black market but they can reduce the exaggerated rates which is pretty much being determined by @Abokifx.

This situation leads to triple inflation which affects the price of goods in the market. When people ask for exchange rates, no one is asking for the CBN rate, people go on @abokifx and then go with it. It also leads to hoarding of the dollar which of course increases scarcity.. Guess what scarcity does? Your guess is as good as mine.

I have never been a fan of this government but this is one I support. We have too many secondary influencers who are determining the exchange rate. The CBN have to cut the wings of the BDCs and people like Abokifx to bring some semblance of sanity to the black market. They also have to hold banks accountable, I mean, they have to be strict with banks..

The black market situation of forex is horrible in comparison to the black market of fuel.. Nigeria is just tooooooo corrupt!

I wait to read other comments because me sef wan learn.

Thanks a lot for this detail

My opinion is that abokifx only reports the rate and doesnt set.

Also its common knowledge that CBN rates is useless to the average person as no one gets to buy at those rates. If you are in Lagos today and want to buy FX, the surest way is to go to abokis and their rate is different from CBN rates

Abkifx doesnt set this, he only reports

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:47am On Sep 18, 2021
timbros:


We are not talking if his attacking has consequences or not.

You specifically said TAA don't attack when VVD is not around. Do you still stand by that?

You and who?

Ogbeni, you will see TAA being cautious henceforth with his bombing forward, once VVD is not on the field. You don't need babalawo to tell you. That was what happened when VVD was injured last season, stop disturbing me jare. angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:22am On Sep 18, 2021
airmark:


You and who?

Ogbeni, you will see TAA being cautious henceforth with his bombing forward, once VVD is not on the field. You don't need babalawo to tell you. That was what happened when VVD was injured last season, stop disturbing me jare. angry

grin grin

So it's something he will start doing, not something he has been doing like you opined?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 1:58am On Sep 18, 2021
timbros:


Said what exactly?

You don't get the discussion. Airmark said that TAA do not attack whenever VVD is not on the pitch. The issue is not if attacking will be detrimental or not.

Did TAA attack AC Milan? Was VVD in the pitch?
The commentator said they did not attack with quite the same conviction when VVD was out injured. You just can not use use one odd match to invalidate that claim, that's my point...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 2:24am On Sep 18, 2021
raumdeuter:


Thanks a lot for this detail

My opinion is that abokifx only reports the rate and doesnt set.

Also its common knowledge that CBN rates is useless to the average person as no one gets to buy at those rates. If you are in Lagos today and want to buy FX, the surest way is to go to abokis and their rate is different from CBN rates

Abkifx doesnt set this, he only reports

This is inevitable because it’s the black market. Like I said in my previous post, I don’t think the CBN can fully control the black market, but is there a way they can reduce the gap or the exaggeration of rates by the influencers?
Like you, I really want to learn and hope someone with good knowledge can help out.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Singapore1(m): 2:36am On Sep 18, 2021
raumdeuter:


Thanks a lot for this detail

My opinion is that abokifx only reports the rate and doesnt set.

Also its common knowledge that CBN rates is useless to the average person as no one gets to buy at those rates. If you are in Lagos today and want to buy FX, the surest way is to go to abokis and their rate is different from CBN rates

Abkifx doesnt set this, he only reports

Just like Roland17 said Abokifx is one of many fx problem the CBN needs to solve and i am fully in support of it. I worked as a BDC Operator for years and i can tell you Abokifx determine the Diasporas rate in Nigeria. There was a time they had problem with their website so they couldn't update rate for days so rate froze, people from abroad were happy selling at the frozen rate.

about 34 Billion USD come from remittance and people sending money home to their family would happily sell if rate is 400 per dollar rather than this rate. this is something i have noticed. during the time the website froze people from UK and USA didn't notice so there was no complain whatsoever, they didnt wonder why rate stayed the same, they just send you screenshot of abokifx no argument.

i am not saying Abokifx is the source of Nigeria problem but it is definitely one of them.


CBN also needs to come for the banks, it doesn't make sense for banks to have different rate on their card, another thing i don't understand is the idea of PTA, BTA and School fees is very much understandable but why should CBN sell me usd because i'm going for vacation, it shouldn't concern them how i get my fx if i am going for vacation, i don't know Nigeria is going to solve that yet maybe buy your dollar through I&E .

BDC as we know it also need to go...

we do get away with a lot of things when it comes to banking in Nigeria, the way we bank in Nigeria you can never try that in any other civilised country china,uk,us and canada.

you can't create a black market site in USA CANADA OR CHINA !


rather than banning abokifx if i am CBN governor i would have offered to buy the website anonymously and update rate from there, maybe offer him $10m and make him sign NDA plus some legal sh!t . CBN disburse $100m to BDC weekly, i'm sure that amount is a very small price to pay.

abokifx is a temporary solution to a permanent problem, but it is part of the problem nevertheless

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Singapore1(m): 2:41am On Sep 18, 2021
People in Diaspora heavily depend on abokifx, most people in Nigeria don't really care, there was a time abokifx didn't update rate for days and people in diaspora were sending at the rate they saw when in real sense the rate has moved by N10...

Some random guy is probably creating abokifx alternative as we are speaking so it's only a temporary solution but it's a solution.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:31am On Sep 18, 2021
patrickmuf:
An EPL commentator said same and not just for TAA but involving Robertson too...You definitely do not know more than he does...

Timbros is something else.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:34am On Sep 18, 2021
timbros:


Said what exactly?

You don't get the discussion. Airmark said that TAA do not attack whenever VVD is not on the pitch. The issue is not if attacking will be detrimental or not.

Did TAA attack AC Milan? Was VVD in the pitch?

You must be on your 15th bottle.

I told you about it last season when VVD was injured. Now they tried to jettison that and we saw how it ended as they conceded 2 goals from his area. You need to rest.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:35am On Sep 18, 2021
timbros:


grin grin

So it's something he will start doing, not something he has been doing like you opined?

When your eyes are clear, you can come and chat me up.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:22am On Sep 18, 2021
Roland17:


Naaaa.. The CBN just realized they need to fight dirty if they are to get some level of normalcy with the exchange rate. While the economy and inflation rate in Nigeria is horrible, we have secondary influencers like Abokifx who are inflating and exaggerating the Naira/ Dollar situation. I am in no way shape or form saying @abokifx is the problem with Nigeria poor economy.. nobody should engage me in such..

Abokifx is pretty much setting the exchange rate in the black market. I don’t think the CBN have enough machinery/ discipline and will to eliminate or totally control the black market but they can reduce the exaggerated rates which is pretty much being determined by @Abokifx.

This situation leads to triple inflation which affects the price of goods in the market. When people ask for exchange rates, no one is asking for the CBN rate, people go on @abokifx and then go with it. It also leads to hoarding of the dollar which of course increases scarcity.. Guess what scarcity does? Your guess is as good as mine.

I have never been a fan of this government but this is one I support. We have too many secondary influencers who are determining the exchange rate. The CBN have to cut the wings of the BDCs and people like Abokifx to bring some semblance of sanity to the black market. They also have to hold banks accountable, I mean, they have to be strict with banks..

The black market situation of forex is horrible in comparison to the black market of fuel.. Nigeria is just tooooooo corrupt!

I wait to read other comments because me sef wan learn.

Aboki doesn't set rate. CBN is just beating around the bush.

In the days of Abacha, we had parallel rate. In the days of Buhari, we have parallel rate. We didn't have parallel rate under OBJ, Yaradua or GEJ

Parallel rate is the real rate. Emefiele should stop this nonsense. To exchange Naira onto any exchange eg Binance etc requires the parallel rate. Most Nigerians can't access Forex except at parallel rate. Most foreigners can't access exchange except at parallel rate.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 8:29am On Sep 18, 2021
Tuchel's journey from a rookie to d best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0VH6BL5_cg

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 8:57am On Sep 18, 2021
BlueMann:
Kante is back. Who drops out tho?

Kiva had been our best plater these past two games, Jorgo had been steady too.

Don't think TT will throw Kante back in anyways. Maybe Jovacic against Spurs, then Saul & Kante against Villa.
good tin we now have 4men in our midfield... its now left 4TT to pair dem accordingly... I think d best pairing should be kovajorg and kansaul...kante shields d defense while Saul will be on d offensive.. kansaul should be tested in our carabao cup game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by User09: 10:27am On Sep 18, 2021
raumdeuter:


Thanks a lot for this detail

My opinion is that abokifx only reports the rate and doesnt set.

Also its common knowledge that CBN rates is useless to the average person as no one gets to buy at those rates. If you are in Lagos today and want to buy FX, the surest way is to go to abokis and their rate is different from CBN rates

Abkifx doesnt set this, he only reports

Well CBN claims the management of Abokifx have multiple domiciliary accounts; thus could be benefiting from market manipulation
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by User09: 10:43am On Sep 18, 2021
Ibime:


Aboki doesn't set rate. CBN is just beating around the bush.

In the days of Abacha, we had parallel rate. In the days of Buhari, we have parallel rate. We didn't have parallel rate under OBJ, Yaradua or GEJ

Parallel rate is the real rate. Emefiele should stop this nonsense. To exchange Naira onto any exchange eg Binance etc requires the parallel rate. Most Nigerians can't access Forex except at parallel rate. Most foreigners can't access exchange except at parallel rate.

Until CBN guys actually cave in and outrightly ban the BDC and all dorm accounts in Nigeria. They are just chasing the wind. They probably wouldnt as a lot of their top guys own BDC's and benefit from roundtripping

There's a huge chunk of the demand for FX which is driven by speculation and greed. Dollar should not be used for speculative purpose or as a store of value in a naira driven economy

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