₦airaland Forum

Abohboy:
Basically

So what the fvck are you arguing with me for?

jl115:
So what the fvck are you arguing with me for?

Idk to be honest at this point to see what I can learn but if social democracy is capitalism with welfare so be it

jl115:
Where is this wealth you speaketh of?? Just fyi did you know that inequality has actually increased more in 20 years under the ANC vs 50 odd years under apartheid ? in fact SAs inequality was much lower before 1994 and actually decreased from 1960 to 1988..........

Maybe just maybe modern day Africa problems are not the whiteys fault but just sheer incompetent Governments

I wonder why all the white people are still living comfortably while the black population is still poor. Something tells me that apartheid never really ended

Abohboy:
The government can make laws to improve the standard of living for citizens and the so called bourgeois are often people who worked hard to get where they got or at least it was the case look at Odutola, Awolowo, Ojukwu you think they inherited their wealth? Theyn worked hard for it and for this socialist government to label them bourgeois and take away their wealth makes no sense whatsoever. What makes sense is the government setting minimum wage standards and a specific standard that must be kept when it comes to safe work spaces then the governemtn sets up free healthcare, free education, homelessness shelters etc. To make life better that's all that is needed this whole controlling supply and demand doesn't make sense

And I think you need to learn what Fascism is Norway is as far away from Fascism as possible

Look at what China is doing.

In Rongxian , Hebei Province, China, Farmers are about to move into free new houses, after the old houses are demolished..12,000 families, almost a new city. 😅😅😅 pic.twitter.com/XvrIV8vwLC

— Sharing Travel (@MyChinaTrip) September 19, 2021

I currently live in Canada. It is also a social democracy country and they aren’t doing things like this. When you put social democracy the worse parts about capitalism eventually starts to come up again because the bourgeois still control the democracy and it’s always in their interest to put capital before the people. Fun fact: did you know that America was under a period of social democracy at one point. The Great Depression put many under poverty. Franklin D. Roosevelt government programs helped millions of Americans. Then came Reaganism and thatcher then all that changed. America social welfare programs isn’t as good as it used to be. This is currently slowly happening in Canada.

Here’s a Marxist Leninist critique of social democracy.

“ The most fundamental problem with this picture of DSOC is that what they are pursuing is not socialism. They, too, draw inspiration from foreign models. Those models, constantly cited in reverent tones at the DSOC convention, are the parties of the Second International–the British Labor Party, the French Socialist Party, the German Social Democrats, the Israeli Labor Party, and a score of others. Some of these parties have been the ruling parties in the national governments of their countries for decades.
And what do the masses have to show for it? Have there been reforms? In many cases, yes–even significant ones like large scale social welfare programs.
Has exploitation been ended, the enrichment of a few on the labor of the many? Hardly. Poverty? National oppression? The subjugation of women? None of these. Is the economy planned to benefit the people? Have the creative powers of the masses been unleashed? Of course not.
What is more, and this is crucial, DSOC as an organization does not aspire to anything more than this! They are content with class divisions, the dominance of the capitalists, a reform government that does not challenge the existing structures.“

Hueman:
I wonder why all the white people are still living comfortably while the black population is still poor. Something tells me that apartheid never really ended

Who says all whites are living comfortably?

Hueman:
The delusions you people have is crazy. Move to Zimbabwe since strength of currency doesn’t matter then.

So Chinese Yuan, and Russian ruble weaker against dollar and euro makes both countries poor?
You don't have sense oga, bring a better argument.

Roan77:
So Chinese Yuan, and Russian ruble weaker against dollar and euro makes both countries poor?
You don't have sense oga, bring a better argument.

That’s not how any of it works. Buying imports is literally crazy expensive because of how bad our currency is.

Abohboy:
Who says all whites are living comfortably?

A hugeeeee Majority of them are.

rvp2018:
Folks only two countries almost depended entirely on colonialism for their advancement - Spain and Portugal - the rest had very robust local economies based on industrialization - and the colonies were mostly a drain on their economies. Start with Britian - nearly all colonies were in the red - and needed injection of money from Britain. In fact US, Japan and German were able to avoid colonial cost/drain and grow faster - than Britain and France - who had to shoulder huge price trying to manage their mostly loss making colonies.

What made Britain, Germany, Japan. ITALY and France rich - INDUSTRALIZATION.

Now study the two European countries - that did not - industralize - but depend on plundering the gold and minerals of South America - Spain and Portugal.

When you rmbr those 2 have the longest history of colonisation by FAR it may explain some things.
The Spanish conquered L America by the early 1600s and transported all the treasure they could find home for 2 centuries til the natives gained Uhuru early 1800s.
Genocides, slavery and resource rape was the order of the day for all this time. And yet in the 1920s labourers in N Spain ate grass!
Portugal did FA for the 400 yrs they were in Africa.

In five centuries of colonization, Portugal has not only failed to provide for the needs of her colonial citizens but has also not succeeded in the classic colonial practice of exploiting overseas possessions to remedy domestic shortcomings.

Portugal has not just failed her African colonies. She has failed even to exploit them.

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/08/18/archives/potugals-absurd-empire-portugal-has-not-just-failed-her-african.html

These 2 nations are the least developed in W Europe with GDP per capita half that of the Germanics like Belgium and Austria.

Hueman:
I wonder why all the white people are still living comfortably while the black population is still poor. Something tells me that apartheid never really ended

stop shifting the goal posts mate and tell me how is it that SAs problems today is the fault of white people when In actual fact unemployment and inequality was considerably lower before 94??

Just admit that Africa should start fixing the real problem which isn't white people or colonialism anymore but inept, incompetent and corrupt governments

Kazikazi:
Son,why are these poles in the middle of a road?

Its ACTUALLY untarmacked. Strange, for such a rich place. It's true what you said: Gh simply DOESN'T pass the visual test.
All the cherry picked pix and vids just don't reveal the middle-class country they PRETEND to be.

Nairobi sunrise from upper hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nt5wRYipME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZJR2UUcsVA

Abohboy:
How is it through corruption? They applied for visa then applied for permanent citizenship brought the necessary documents, paid the necessary fees and got the document they need to stay in the country nothing illegal whatsoever.

What's this?https://www.2oceansvibe.com/2018/09/14/how-did-this-gupta-pal-get-to-rock-sunnies-in-his-sa-id-photo/

kikuyu1:
Its ACTUALLY untarmacked. Strange, for such a rich place. It's true what you said: Gh simply DOESN'T pass the visual test.
All the cherry picked pix and vids just don't reveal the middle-class country they PRETEND to be.

But who should be blamed? The folks who believe wholehearteadly their gov statistics or the gov guys who are in their kitchen dishing out those big figures?

kikuyu1:
Its ACTUALLY untarmacked. Strange, for such a rich place. It's true what you said: Gh simply DOESN'T pass the visual test.
All the cherry picked pix and vids just don't reveal the middle-class country they PRETEND to be.

There is nothing like visual test...
It is either you have or you don't (the realities of people lives)

like I said, it is someone 30 acres fenced private property that is yet to be developed..

There is always, so much more in development

Just30:
There is always, so much more in development

Where is this? East Legon Hills Or?


Are you aware some people are pushing for a *City Charter* for East Legon? They want A.M.A to make East Legon a separate city to fastruck development in that enclave .

East Airport

No im not aware but it will be a great idea( That will make East Legon another Tema)..... The rate of development in that area, even without it own gov't is astonishing

vankelvin:
Where is this? East Legon Hills Or?


Are you aware some people are pushing for a *City Charter* for East Legon? They want A.M.A to make East Legon a separate city to fastruck development in that enclave .

obaaderemi:
False.

Korea was not annexed by Japan until 1910.
Look,man. Without Japan's short lived empire, the country would still have prospered. It's about structure.
The country was structured to progress after the Meiji Restoration happened.

Putting Japan's progress on colonialism, especially by Africans, is running away from facts. Spain had an empire that stretched up to South America, the richest parts, yet by 1960s Spain was one of the poorest countries in Europe. Compare Spain with Germany.
German colonies were almost useless yet Germany prospered.

the amount of stolen African sculptures and art works that Germany has today shows that their tourism is based on African stuff

vankelvin:
Where is this? East Legon Hills Or?


Are you aware some people are pushing for a *City Charter* for East Legon? They want A.M.A to make East Legon a separate city to fastruck development in that enclave .

city charter is a system used in developed world . China , Hongkong and some city of america has city charter. So many rich men are in east legon, they literally can do anything own their own to fixed their neighbourhood without government support.

Look at tressaco, most of the individual there are once living in east legon.

AfriqueDuZuid:
He's south african, that makes him African.

Afrikaneer culture is unique to South Africa, not Europe, its African. It's basically dutch+french+and others. Although English cultures is different.

Same goes for Afrikaans language its African version of dutch.

Where did you get that Stat?

I hope you love the way they represented you black south Africans here?

what Africans think of each other


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKeQSqAdgk
abohboy
you guys should see this video
jl115 especially

theInterpreter:
I hope you love the way they represented you black south Africans here?

what Africans think of each other


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKeQSqAdgk

you guys should see this video
jl115 especially

she is representing South Africa not black or white specifically....

Abohboy:
What is wrong with you? Who hurt you like honestly

the guy is really absurd

jl115:
she is representing South Africa not black or white specifically....

a true African will understand what I'm saying
they kept saying "they"they "they
never we we
they were talking like they weren't Africans

they were basically mocking black south Africans

just read the comments in the comments section

you should pick why most are angry

jl115:
Gosh I would sure love some of that stolen wealth you are talking about beats working my a$$ of for everything I have today.....

If only I gave a fvck whether people don't like me or not, maybe then I would've cared

1957 High School Debate. Nigeria, Ethiopia, Ghana &
South Africa. Prejudice pt 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840XWjnt9wc

hueman

theInterpreter:
a true African will understand what I'm saying
they kept saying "they"they "they
never we we
they were talking like they weren't Africans

they were basically mocking black south Africans

just read the comments in the comments section

you should pick why most are angry

as I told a fellow thread member, generally SAns couldn't give a fvck about what other people think and this is certainly true about us Boere as well.

Also some of those "Africans" sounded very American to me and we all know that lesbian Nigerian chick ain't living in Nigeria anymore

jl115:
as I told a fellow thread member, generally SAns couldn't give a fvck about what other people think and this is certainly true about us Boere as well.

Also some of those "Africans" sounded very American to me and we all know that lesbian Nigerian chick ain't living in Nigeria anymore

yeah
none live in Nigeria obviously

you should better start giving a ffuck

it will do your descendants a very good deal