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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Ovamboland(m): 8:42am On Sep 22, 2021
kcnwaigbo:
Let's not receive ourselves.This is not even about Tinubu and Atiku.No southerner can defeat a northerner in a presidential election today unless the south unites.
How did Jonathan who is not even a strong or influential politician do it in 2011?
When you base your hypothesis on wrong premise, the conclusion will always be wrong. Abiola, Obasanjo, Jonathan have defeated northern candidates in presidential elections yet many of you carry this wrong notion like facts
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by mfm04622: 8:43am On Sep 22, 2021
garfield1:
You lie.atiku always struggles to win Adamawa.can he control Adamawa the way tinubu controls lagos
Yes!

Atiku has ALWAYS decided who get what in Adamawa since 1999! Since he relinquished his gubernatorial ticket to his deputy to assume the Vice Presidency, he has always decide who get what! Why did an APC governor in Adamawa out his children in his cabinet when Atiku was in PDP? If you don't live in Adamawa, you may not know what is happening
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 8:44am On Sep 22, 2021
garfield1:
Oh so your an igbo as I thought.tinubu dominates south west.let atiku dominate north east na
I am not an igbo. I am from south south.
U remembered 2015 abi?
Na our brother una nor gree make he complete his remaining 4years
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by kelly72: 8:45am On Sep 22, 2021
FreeStuffsNG:
Sir, the dates have changed but it's same major factors that are aligned. We have a Northerner Muslim versus Southerner Muslim and the election supervised by a Northerner President with military background and just like then, Kano and Lagos are APC(SDP).
And unlike Alhaji Tofa, Turakin is not even from Kano!

So the people in Kano, Katsina and Kaduna will vote for Tinubu against Atiku? And the Northerners in Lagos will vote same way? Haha.

Millions from f bags of rice moving from Lagos to Kano may not do the job o.

And dont forget Tinubu lost 2 States in his own zone in 2019 and those States have not repented o.



You will see 1993 replay again as voting will reinforce our unity in diversity. East will go NRC(PDP) like they did when they voted against MKO while the two most major voting blocs of Lagos, Kano will go to SDP(APC) just like 1993 .
Please remember this post sir. Asiwaju Tinubu of the SDP legacy will defeat the Turakin Adamawa of the NRC legacy.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 8:45am On Sep 22, 2021
garfield1:
Atiku is a political prostitute always jumping.can he form his own party like tinubu? Can he win elections outside pdp?
He formed AC
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Bendeco02: 8:46am On Sep 22, 2021
Ovamboland:
How did Jonathan who is not even a strong or influential politician do it in 2011?
When you base your hypothesis on wrong premise, the conclusion will always be wrong. Abiola, Obasanjo, Jonathan have defeated northern candidates in presidential elections yet many of you carry this wrong notion like facts
He won because PDP was the only national and strong party then... Buhari contested from CPC or so which is regional party.


But this is different case if atiku should contest against tinubu under PDP considering being a northerner too.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 8:49am On Sep 22, 2021
ANDREW91:
Oga u know nothing. ACN was formed from the merger of Atiku AC and Tinubu AD
was AC exisiting while Tinubu was in AD?

I want to know the supplier of your weedcheesy
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Ovamboland(m): 8:52am On Sep 22, 2021
seunmsg:
Instead of wasting your time trying to frustrate the south west, why not use your time and energy to work for an Igbo presidential candidate? Is that not a more sensible approach?

See, Tinubu will contest whether you guys like him or not. If he is edge out by another northerner with the help of Igbo folks, the Yorubas will claim they got betrayed by the north after supporting them in 2015 and 2019. Another round of political unrest like we witnessed from 1993 till 1998 will ensue. At the end of the day, the North will be forced to make another concession to the south west in order to keep the country and south east will lose out again.

So you see, you are not playing this game with your head. The south east will gain absolutely nothing from the anti-Yoruba politics folks like you are pushing for. It will end in tears and we will be here to laugh at you as always.
The urge to be a spoiler is a congenital chronic disease that is difficult to cure.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by mfm04622: 8:54am On Sep 22, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
His money didnt work for him in 2015 because tinubu ameachi, and incumbent Kano gov match his dollars.
He has structure all over Nigeria,yen yen yen yet he came 3rd with less than 3 million votes behind buhari, and yardua.
His phantom political structure couldnt deliver the pdp primary ticket for him 2011 despite Jonathan was a newcomer in politicscheesy

Where re is structure in his own state?
Ribadu from his own state contested in 2011 and performed better than Atiku in 2007.

His structure that was built in thin air since he joined politics in 1990s yet he couldnt deliver his own polling unit and lost his own region to buharicheesy

If not for ready made political structure pdp has in south east and south south you think Atiku can win these two regions.
What is stopping atiku with his imaginary political structure ftom flouting his own party like Tinubu (Acn) and Buhari(CPC).
I guess he is a political prostitute with no loyalty to any party except those that re willing to chop his dollars
You can't compare Buhari with ANY politician in Nigeria, despite the fact he doesn't even share money. Despite the fact he even have no structure! His 12M vote is guaranteed since he started participating in politics.
If you underrate Atiku, he will surprise you! He has a structure on ground even before 1999. You think OBJ just selected him to be VP just like that?
You have a structure doesn't mean you will win all the time. For example, Buhari doesn't do structure. He goes directly to the voter. Other times, sentiment will overwhelm any structure you may put in place as happened with GEJ. Also, don't discount the effect of parties contesting apart from the politicians themselves. In the Southeast and South South, even a goat will win an election just because it is fielded by PDP.
Atiku is an astute politician with great influence. With a big war chest. The biggest in Nigeria for now. Tinubu is no pushover but his strength comes from putting people in places they can advance his interest. You will be surprised if you know people who got where they are now because of Tinubu. This is not limited to the South West. Tinubu's strength comes from alliances he has built all over the country, not in a structure per se.
Both strategies have their advantage and disadvantages. Your structure can be schemed out at the local level so they are not the delegate that will select candidates. This has happened to Tinubu a lot in South West where he has his structure. On the other hand, your allies can be bought over and forget what you did for them in the past when promised better things for their support
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Ovamboland(m): 8:58am On Sep 22, 2021
kcnwaigbo:
Did anyone say Tinubu should not contest? We are only telling you that he won't win.The SW is taking the SS/SE for fools,we will surprise you people in 2023
Lol the North will be "forced" to make concessions to the SW.
You are supposed to be a comedian
SE has been begging to have such concession of all Ibo candidate for all major parties in 2023, even their party PDP ignored them and already shows signs it's presidential ticket is zoned to the north.
Can you show me any SW politician that begged to have only only SW persons running in 1999?
That's the difference between class and comedy or tantrums we are seeing from SE today.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 8:59am On Sep 22, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
was AC exisiting while Tinubu was in AD?

I want to know the supplier of your weedcheesy
I still dey wonder how old u are.
In 2006 when atiku was fighting obj, he knew obj wont hand over PDP ticket to him.
So he asked tinubu to merge with other smaller parties. Dat was how AC was created
Nawa for u o
U just dey argue wetin u nor know
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 9:02am On Sep 22, 2021
mfm04622:
You can't compare Buhari with ANY politician in Nigeria, despite the fact he doesn't even share money. Despite the fact he even have no structure! His 12M vote is guaranteed since he started participating in politics.
If you underrate Atiku, he will surprise you! He has a structure on ground even before 1999. You think OBJ just selected him to be VP just like that?
You have a structure doesn't mean you will win all the time. For example, Buhari doesn't do structure. He goes directly to the voter. Other times, sentiment will overwhelm any structure you may put in place as happened with GEJ. Also, don't discount the effect of parties contesting apart from the politicians themselves. In the Southeast and South South, even a goat will win an election just because it is fielded by PDP.
Atiku is an astute politician with great influence. With a big war chest. The biggest in Nigeria for now. Tinubu is no pushover but his strength comes from putting people in places they can advance his interest. You will be surprised if you know people who got where they are now because of Tinubu. This is not limited to the South West. Tinubu's strength comes from alliances he has built all over the country, not in a structure per se.
Both strategies have their advantage and disadvantages. Your structure can be schemed out at the local level so they are not the delegate that will select candidates. This has happened to Tinubu a lot in South West where he has his structure. On the other hand, your allies can be bought over and forget what you did for them in the past when promised better things for their support
oga leave too much stories where re atiku political structure?
Tinubu can deliver region votes , can atiku deliver north east votes?
Atiku was a known political prostitute with no loyalty to any party until a ready made political structure was sold to him by secondus ?
If pdp field saraki ,kwankaso, or Tambuwa they would have performed better than Atiku in North.
Atiku lost his region woefully, buhari disgraced him in his own polling unit.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Ovamboland(m): 9:04am On Sep 22, 2021
Asgard73:
See fear..

Yoruba man using reverse psychology grin

Times have changed and no one will ever give Yoruba that sentiment .. again.. reason why not ain’t buying .. southern governors agenda..

Yoruba people are about to sojourn on a political wilderness.. and you people understand this fact with great fear..

Only masking a fake face
I think the Yorubas have done well for their region in the last 6 years compared to what many other regions got in 16 of operating at federal level.
First dual track SGR in west Africa, approval for 2 new seaports, one almost completed, heavy progress on major expressway, largest single oil refinery in Africa, Eko Atlantic city, more than enough to live on without FG power
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:05am On Sep 22, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
was AC exisiting while Tinubu was in AD?

I want to know the supplier of your weedcheesy
I still dey wonder how old u are.
In 2006 when atiku was fighting obj, he knew obj wont hand over PDP ticket to him.
So he asked tinubu to merge with other smaller parties. Dat was how ACN was created
Nawa for u o
U just dey argue wetin u nor know
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by garfield1: 9:06am On Sep 22, 2021
ANDREW91:
He formed AC
Chai.you have serious issues.atiku defected to ac in 2007 when he had problems with obj.you dont even know simple political history
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 9:08am On Sep 22, 2021
ANDREW91:
I still dey wonder how old u are.
In 2006 when atiku was fighting obj, he knew obj wont hand over PDP ticket to him.
So he asked tinubu to merge with other smaller parties. Dat was how AC was created
Nawa for u o
U just dey argue wetin u nor know
you re cronic liar Tinubu left AD because obj bought a lot of AD leaders that made the party lost all their states in 2003.
Tinubu formed Ac and metamorphosed to Acn. Atiku after loosing 2007 election went back to pdp but weed smoker like you believe he formed Acncheesy
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by garfield1: 9:08am On Sep 22, 2021
mfm04622:
Yes!

Atiku has ALWAYS decided who get what in Adamawa since 1999! Since he relinquished his gubernatorial ticket to his deputy to assume the Vice Presidency, he has always decide who get what! Why did an APC governor in Adamawa out his children in his cabinet when Atiku was in PDP? If you don't live in Adamawa, you may not know what is happening
You lie.murtala nyarko was an enemy to atiku.in 2015,atiku supported mijinyawa who lost to bindowo in apc primaries.can atiku control Adamawa the way tinubu does in lagos? When bamanga tukur was pdp chair,atiku was an orphan.apart from Adamawa,where else does atiku control
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:12am On Sep 22, 2021
ANDREW91:
Tinubu na small boy for where atiku dey.
East, west, south, north atiku is known.
I never really knew tinubu dat much until i came to lagos.
Do u know how many of atiku boys are in APC
Ekiti state gov is one...because dem nor dey make noise. Make 2023 first reach
That says more about your own personal lack of national political exposure and knowledge than anything else.

Tinubu's feat of ousting the very powerful and well-entrenched PDP from SW politics is the stuff of legend.

There is much more and you can learn if you really want to. Even beyond Nigeria, across Africa and the world, Tinubu is famous and understudied religiously because of his stunning turnaround and transformation of the fortunes of Lagos.

If intellectually inquisitive, have you never wondered why goverment officials and diplomatic attaches of some of the most powerful nations in the world go and visit Tinubu at Bourdillon, when the man is not in government, yet same folks seem to have zero interest in other Nigerian leaders currently in office like even your Senate President.

Do those sort of reality not show you Tinubu is rated above all others by the best judges available i.e neutral non-Nigerian politicians and goverment administrators with no particular bias towards any ethnic group or region of Nigeria?

Anyway, your life your ignorance. Suffice to say, per politically notable and significant achievements, no other politician comes remotely close to Tinubu since our current democracy began in 1999.

You should not say the bold above publicly again as it just makes you appear a clannish villagers only aware of his village politics and local leaders.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:17am On Sep 22, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
you re cronic liar Tinubu left AD because obj bought a lot of AD leaders that made the party lost all their states in 2003.
Tinubu formed Ac and metamorphosed to Acn. Atiku after loosing 2007 election went back to pdp but weed smoker like you believe he formed Acncheesy
What are u even saying
Ac was formed in 2006 when atiku realised obj was never goin to give him PDP ticket
U wont learn.
D people obj bought was during 2003 election
Nawa for u o
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by hisexcellency34: 9:20am On Sep 22, 2021
Stop saying what you don't know.
ANDREW91:
Oga u know nothing. ACN was formed from the merger of Atiku AC and Tinubu AD
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:22am On Sep 22, 2021
garfield1:
Chai.you have serious issues.atiku defected to ac in 2007 when he had problems with obj.you dont even know simple political history
Lolz
Defected or he asked tinubu to formed AC in 2006 incase obj didnt give him PDP ticket.
U know nothing
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:25am On Sep 22, 2021
hisexcellency34:
Stop saying what you don't know.
Oga u know nothing
In 2006, atiku asked tinubu to formed AC incase obj refused to give him PDP ticket because of the problems he was having with obj.
Goan ask Tinubu
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:29am On Sep 22, 2021
OneTemplate:
That says more about your own personal lack of national political exposure and knowledge than anything else.

Tinubu's feat of ousting the very powerful and well-entrenched PDP from SW politics is the stuff of legend.

There is much more and you can learn if you really want to. Even beyond Nigeria, across Africa and the world, Tinubu is famous and understudied religiously because of his stunning turnaround and transformation of the fortunes of Lagos.

If intellectually inquisitive, have you never wondered why goverment officials and diplomatic attaches of some of the most powerful nations in the world go and visit Tinubu at Bourdillon, when the man is not in government, yet same folks seem to have zero interest in other Nigerian leaders currently in office like even your Senate President.

Do those sort of reality not show you Tinubu is rated above all others by the best judges available i.e neutral non-Nigerian politicians and goverment administrators with no particular bias towards any ethnic group or region of Nigeria?

Anyway, your life your ignorance. Suffice to say, per politically notable and significant achievements, no other politician comes remotely close to Tinubu since our current democracy began in 1999.

You should not say the bold above publicly again as it just makes you appear a clannish villagers only aware of his village politics and local leaders.
Oga u dey preach.
How well do u know Willie obiano.
U know nothing
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 9:32am On Sep 22, 2021
ANDREW91:
What are u even saying
Ac was formed in 2006 when atiku realised obj was never goin to give him PDP ticket
U wont learn.
D people obj bought was during 2003 election
Nawa for u o
Were you expecting Tinubu to leave AD immediately after winning his re-eection on their platform in 2003? And immediately form his own party? He has to consult other move with his loyalist in the remaining south west states before actualizing his plan. It is on record that Tinubu formed Acn till date.
So tell me why did Atiku hurridly go back to pdp after loosing 2007 election?
Atiku stayed in pdp till 2014 while Tinubu was spreading ACN across north.
Atiku a political prostitute didn't form any party
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ObalaEmma: 9:36am On Sep 22, 2021
bamo1122:
..

You're a poor student of history...
TINUBU has been in Nigeria political limelight for long ..
He has at least one House of Representatives, Senate , DG or Governor in each of the state of the country...
He has commissioned project in almost all parts of the northern state....
Yorouba politics limelights for long.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:37am On Sep 22, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
Were you expecting Tinubu to leave AD immediately after winning his re-eection on their platform in 2003? And immediately form his own party? He has to consult other move with his loyalist in the remaining south west states before actualizing his plan. It is on record that Tinubu formed Acn till date.
So tell me why did Atiku hurridly go back to pdp after loosing 2007 election?
Atiku stayed in pdp till 2014 while Tinubu was spreading ACN across north.
Atiku a political prostitute didn't form any party
Oga learn na
Atiku asked tinubu to merge his AD with other small parties to realised his presidential ambition when PDP got blocked by obj.
If not for atiku, obj would have collected lagos in 2003 by all means. Atiku was the one that was charged to collect all the AD states, but he left Lagos because of his friendship with tinubu.
That was the genesis of obj and atiku fight
Y do u think he was given AC automatic ticket
I done tire to type
Goan ask tinubu
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:56am On Sep 22, 2021
ANDREW91:
Oga u dey preach.
How well do u know Willie obiano.
U know nothing
Well enough. I know, for example, Obiano went out of his way to have James Nwafor, the disgraced SARs butcher, redeployed to Anambra so he could draft him officially into his own Governor security apparatus.

Not everyone wishes to wallow in Village ignorance like you.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:59am On Sep 22, 2021
ObalaEmma:
Yorouba politics limelights for long.
Lol IPOBian ignorance on display. The reason you lot suck badly at national politics and can today only boast of local champions whose influence does not extend beyond their Villages.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by kcnwaigbo: 9:59am On Sep 22, 2021
Ovamboland:
How did Jonathan who is not even a strong or influential politician do it in 2011?
When you base your hypothesis on wrong premise, the conclusion will always be wrong. Abiola, Obasanjo, Jonathan have defeated northern candidates in presidential elections yet many of you carry this wrong notion like facts
Because the south was united for once in history of Nigeria in 2011,This unity was only short-lived before it was destroyed by the SW in 2015 Led by Tinubu who ironically needs the south to be united for his selfish 2023 ambition
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 10:01am On Sep 22, 2021
OneTemplate:
Well enough. I know, for example, Obiano went out of his way to have James Nwafor, the disgraced SARs butcher, redeployed to Anambra so he could draft him officially into his own Governor security apparatus.

Not everyone wishes to wallow in Village ignorance like you.
Lolz.
I mean politically
Why did Peter obi gave him APGA ticket?
U are mentioning james nwafor story dat everybody is awared of
U are not smart abeg
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 10:05am On Sep 22, 2021
OneTemplate:
Well enough. I know, for example, Obiano went out of his way to have James Nwafor, the disgraced SARs butcher, redeployed to Anambra so he could draft him officially into his own Governor security apparatus.

Not everyone wishes to wallow in Village ignorance like you.
Lolz.
I mean politically
Why did Peter obi gave him APGA ticket?
U are mentioning james nwafor story dat everybody is awared of
I bet u only knew james nwafor story when it became a national news.
I know more of tinubu story than u dats his brother
U are not smart abeg
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 10:06am On Sep 22, 2021
ANDREW91:
Oga learn na
Atiku asked tinubu to merge his AD with other small parties to realised his presidential ambition when PDP got blocked by obj.
If not for atiku, obj would have collected lagos in 2003 by all means. Atiku was the one that was charged to collect all the AD states, but he left Lagos because of his friendship with tinubu.
That was the genesis of obj and atiku fight
Y do u think he was given AC automatic ticket
I done tire to type
Goan ask tinubu
which parties tinubu merged to with to form Acn?
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