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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 9:05am On Sep 22, 2021
Shma2020:
That list was bs. We debunked it.

Egypt is the construction goat in africa and it was never there.

Ethiopia and Morocco were not there. They have done more than your zoo.
Egypt was not included it was in the middle east list
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:23am On Sep 22, 2021
Shma2020:
Nice question. I think you're in position to answer this, right?
Desperate child
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Appisko: 9:27am On Sep 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Look at the report you keep parroting here - it's talking the value of construction firms. Not the value of construction industry. It's value of home-grown construction firms or companies involved in construction.

That is okay - Nigeria can keep their corrupt contractors - we in Kenya for 20yrs now have embraced Chinese construction firms - for they deliver in time, quality and value.

https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/business/Ghana-s-construction-sector-ranked-7th-best-in-value-for-Sub-Sahara-Africa-Fitch-report-1345588
Stop ur fvcking lies the list was about the construction value for various countries home grown and Fdi all involved
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:29am On Sep 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Look at the report you keep parroting here - it's talking the value of construction firms. Not the value of construction industry. It's value of home-grown construction firms or companies involved in construction.

That is okay - Nigeria can keep their corrupt contractors - we in Kenya for 20yrs now have embraced Chinese construction firms - for they deliver in time, quality and value.

https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/business/Ghana-s-construction-sector-ranked-7th-best-in-value-for-Sub-Sahara-Africa-Fitch-report-1345588
It's is talking about the value of total construction per annum ...


Learn to know how to read
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:41am On Sep 22, 2021
Shma2020:
Ghana should be the last people to talk about university infrastructure. Your campus designs have highschool like taste.
This coming from a person whose country is known to be a One building University country?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Wizzzzmike: 9:58am On Sep 22, 2021
vankelvin:
This coming from a person whose country is known to be a One building University country?
Lol u be bad paaa ma guy lol...I hope he understand lol
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:06am On Sep 22, 2021
It's included apparently it has 25B. That is report on construction firms value. Otherwise Egypt construction industry is huge...consuming nearly 3 times Nigeria cement consumption at 55M metric tonnes.
AfriqueDuZuid:
Egypt was not included it was in the middle east list
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:25am On Sep 22, 2021
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:37am On Sep 22, 2021
Wizzzzmike:
Lol u be bad paaa ma guy lol...I hope he understand lol
lol grin
Those guys like making blind arguments too much
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:50am On Sep 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Mechanization of tea harvesting in Kericho Kenya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfDqceW64M8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV5QGkY1ahA
Too bad for millions working in those farms, no more plucking for them
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:52am On Sep 22, 2021
rvp2018:
It's included apparently it has 25B. That is report on construction firms value. Otherwise Egypt construction industry is huge...consuming nearly 3 times Nigeria cement consumption at 55M metric tonnes.
Do you have evidence for your claims? If yes

Present them here and stop saying unproven claims
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:54am On Sep 22, 2021
They will find other jobs..unlike South Africa...they own small piece of land.
AfriqueDuZuid:
Too bad for millions working in those farms, no more plucking for them
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:59am On Sep 22, 2021
Search - Google it - 25B Egypt Fitch - and see what you get genius.
AfriqueDuZuid:
Do you have evidence for your claims? If yes

Present them here and stop saying unproven claims
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:14am On Sep 22, 2021
rvp20182:
Search - Google it - 25B Egypt Fitch - and see what you get genius.
You can't make claim and not back it up
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:15am On Sep 22, 2021
Is that what your university of pretoria teach you - spoonfeeding?
AfriqueDuZuid:
You can't make claim and not back it up
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:15am On Sep 22, 2021
rvp2018:
They will find other jobs..unlike South Africa...they own small piece of land.
Lol theres a lot you don't understand about South Africa.

But I'll let you be
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 12:07pm On Sep 22, 2021
AskiaHarem:
Slavery and Colonial definitely played a big role in the overall development of countries like the USA, UK, and France. Germany was a little different in that practiced a far more grueling work ethic along with trading with these massive empire.

Colonialism was basically cheap fuel for there burgeoning countries and today it's barely any different with neo colonialism being a method to sustain cheap fuel to keep there economies
Chugging a lot easier than they should be.

[b] It's no coincidence that the vast majority of the top strongest countries today have DEEP and unpunished roots in slavery, colonialism, and even neo colonialism or strong fair connections with countries that practiced it. Many have some of the most evil history on Earth.


Europeans NEVER planned to truly develop Africa outside of there colonial outpost & cities. The only revelant development that was done in "black Africa" was to the infastructure required to more efficiently get resources off the continent and to the home country. Schools, hospitals, etc was a secondary non essential goal only offered to an extreme minority of European handpicked loyalists and local royalty. Actual ethnic European settlements where a different story of course. wink

[b] I wouldn't say it was the Colonial boosters Europe got that fked African competition the most but the method that colonial was done that did. They basically ripped apart and destroyed the more civilized parts of the continent IRONICALLY and partially rebuilt it back up to best suit themselves exclusively. So when Psuedo independence came all you had where a bunch small states lacking education with the only infastructure in place that's purpose was to serve outsiders.

Europe's end goal plan for Africa was to turn it into a giant resource & labor farm as well as being a 2nd home for Europeans and a tourist destination with smiling African servants at the ready.

Of course these varied depending on the colonial master country and in cases of Europeans breaking away from there origin country like RHODESIA it was worse. Where they pretty much tried to deliver the same fate to the locals as what happened to the Native Americans & Australian Aboriginals.

Today much of Africa is dominated by foriegn corporations backes by politics that don't have even remotely our best interest a heart. This is why I take ethnicity African dominanted business so serious.

European analysts have already admitted that if colonialism never happened Britian, France, Italy etc would all be 2nd/3rd level countries.
Abohboy:
They may have propspered but not at the same speed or at the same level and the British empire was literally built on the backs of slavery and colonialism so that point doesn't make sense
False.
The development of Europe was driven more by mercantile, competition, scientific progress, better instrument, machines, steam engine. In fact thermodynamics already was developed by 1712!

Property rights, work ethics, education, artistry also played major roles. You just have to recognize the fact that Europe's Great Enrichment was inevitable. Any country that can make things others wanted would make it big, like Britain. They could have just traded to get the raw materials and labour needed. Cost of goods would just have been higher. Just like China is doing today.

But because Africans and South American tribes were weak, they were low hanging fruits for the likes of Britain.


Colonialism contributed but without it, nothing could have stopped Britain's growth. You know why? They did away with conservatism.
Colonialism and slavery contributed less than Africans are made to believe to Britain, it was just a foolish unnecessary evil that wrecked Africa and benefited some greedy individuals in Britain. That's why Britain let it all go easily by 1960.
Read this with an open mind and see why it's silly to think Britain wouldn't have prospered without slavery and colonialism:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/did-britain-s-wealth-really-come-from-the-slave-trade-
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 12:09pm On Sep 22, 2021
vankelvin:
This coming from a person whose country is known to be a One building University country?
grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:17pm On Sep 22, 2021
Just30:
Desperate child
Mhhh...? K Mr hobbit. cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:23pm On Sep 22, 2021
vankelvin:
This coming from a person whose country is known to be a One building University country?
You mean the one building which is equivalent to 3campuses in a country of dwarfs? Interesting grin.

But worry less, land price in Nairobi is just too much for an average Ghanaian to decipher - the reason we invest in vertical infrastructures. The day you'll realize that technical universities in Kenya are much more better infrastructurally than your UOG, that's when you'll quit the rant.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 12:24pm On Sep 22, 2021
theenchanter:
u mean no kenyan university there? After all their rants here? shocked

I cannot can. cheesy
Dey there.
It's about to get worse for Kenyan universities.
Kenya's masters, the IMF, is forcing Kenya to cut funds to its top universities:

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:26pm On Sep 22, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Egypt was not included it was in the middle east list
Drop the link, I just want to see something. smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:28pm On Sep 22, 2021
obaaderemi:
Dey there.
It's about to get worse for Kenyan universities.
Kenya's masters, the IMF, is forcing Kenya to cut funds to its top universities:
It's almost two yrs since those rumors were peddled and nothing of the sort has happened. Don't peddle BS brother.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:34pm On Sep 22, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Do you have evidence for your claims? If yes

Present them here and stop saying unproven claims
Don't reason like someone who has never stepped in school. If you want any argument to be countered with links from reputable sources, you yourself should also present yourself with your own link which you feel it's the right one.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:43pm On Sep 22, 2021
vankelvin:
Which Kenyan universities exactly?

Yes I debunked that report

Just talk talk with nothing to show
The emboldened is what I wanted to here

So what are these? grin


No architectural design, just plain ugly buildings.

Random pics of Kenya unis.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 12:47pm On Sep 22, 2021
Shma2020:
You mean the one building which is equivalent to 3campuses in a country of dwarfs? Interesting grin.

But worry less, land price in Nairobi is just too much for an average Ghanaian to decipher - the reason we invest in vertical infrastructures. The day you'll realize that technical universities in Kenya are much more better infrastructurally than your UOG, that's when you'll quit the rant.
You repeated same rubbish over and over again yet no evidence.

Can we see your one building universities again?

Now it's no more about having satellite campuses but rather land price affecting the size of your universities.

Next lie please.

UG campus below

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 12:52pm On Sep 22, 2021
Shma2020:
The emboldened is what I wanted to here

So what are these? grin


No architectural design, just plain ugly buildings.

Random pics of Kenya unis.
Yes, it can only be random pictures because not a single kenyan university can stand our universities in any competition.

Try comparing your unis with somalia not Ghana.


UESD campus below (Public University)

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 1:20pm On Sep 22, 2021
Shma2020:
Mhhh...? K Mr hobbit. cheesy
cheesy cheesy

Empty head comment as usual from the zombie
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 1:21pm On Sep 22, 2021
obaaderemi:
Dey there.
It's about to get worse for Kenyan universities.
Kenya's masters, the IMF, is forcing Kenya to cut funds to its top universities:
cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:34pm On Sep 22, 2021
Kenya Gov made a deliberate move to discourage university education and focus on TIVET. We dont want a country of too many entitled white collar job seekers when the economy doesnt support it.
We started by reducing the number of eligble student joining universities - through mass exam failures- and all universities are bleeding - both public and private - because they are competing for very few students qualifying to join them. Private universities are not funded by the public - or IMF - if you will - and they are also bleeding.

Tivet is where all action is....from about 100K enrollment it's now gone to 400K...and we aim for 2 million.

Students in Technical and Vocational Education Training (TVET) in Kenya 2013-2019. As of 2019, Kenya counted 430.6 thousand students enrolled in Technical and Vocational Education Training (TVET), nearly three times more than in 2013, when the initiative was established

Student enrollment has shot 600pc
https://www.kenyanews.go.ke/tvet-enrollment-shot-by-600pc/
The national government has invested massively in the Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVET) sector escalating students’ enrollment to these institutions by over 600 per cent since 2013.

The state has invested multi billions to equip the 238 TVET colleges in the country with modern facilities in terms of infrastructure and highly skilled trainers to improve the quality of education offered in TVET and bridge the country’s skills gap

Mwakima said since the beginning of President Uhuru Kenyatta’s administration in 2013 to date, the number of TVET institutions has shot up by over 450 per cent in a bid to enhance access, equity and quality of TVET education.

obaaderemi:
Dey there.
It's about to get worse for Kenyan universities.
Kenya's masters, the IMF, is forcing Kenya to cut funds to its top universities:
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:49pm On Sep 22, 2021
jl115:
Nope........Covid is just as bad in Nigeria as anywhere else, except you have only conducted a couple million tests hence covid deaths will be in relation to tests conducted
I must reply to ths..
So Nigeria is like 200m an USA is like 350 m..very close.The other day US was hitting 5000 covid deaths per day ..you would think Nigeria with such close population will record such.
There is a saying in Africa society that you can hide hunger but cannot hide bones grin something like that..If africans were dying of covid like you suggest then we would know..we know all ths..i got data from our hospitals an can tell you its not happening..
The other day we were debating about a post by a French scientist suggesting that the reason Africans are not dying at much rate its coz of worms they got in their bodies..kinda a protection shield grin
We i know many folks out there wish Africa death an stuff but not happening. We had ebola,HIV ,covid but our population still strong.an It scaring some folks an mostly white supremist...Dont know why they scared of black or brown skin..
Its funny ya suggesting that if Kenya tested more then folks would die in masses..Thats not science bro..Its wishful thnking... wink

we know Africa population is youthful an strong grin unlike some other countries..also most africans are immune to to stuff coz of how thy grew up...now thats science...
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