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JaceBlaze:
Nigeria comparing themselves with "lazy" South Africa on their national television.

Clearly we are secretly admired in West Africa.Most people will not admit that they wanna be us..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhFMqXbCygU

How are you secretly admired? There's no secret South Africa is the most developed nationin Africa and most Nigerians would rather live there then in Nigeria but our economy is the largest in Africa and South Africa's is the second largest so it's a necessary metric to measure is it not?

Abohboy:

How was Awolowo only a hero un his region when he got Nigeria it's first constitutiion, made the currency for Nigeria and was a main voice in Nigeria's independence?

He wasn't Nigeria first man anyway , it was even the northerner who never want Nigeria to be independent. In the name of tafawa balewa and in terms of national contribution, anthony enahoro has done what Awolowo was just doing way back . He first moved the motion for Nigeria independence. And again Awolowo was more popular in south west governance than the national helm.

I said Ransome Kuti not Fela Kuti his mother is ransome kuti she is the hero i'm talking about she thought hard for women's right and even harder against colonialism and imperialism

I even try by mentioning fela, fela is more popular than his mother thru his music as a political language.

Azkiwe fought hard for independence and even created an ideology to save Nigeria post independence called Zikism

Azikwe has no weight in comparable to Awolowo in south or balewa in the north. He is only popular in the east . Infact the latter biafra war leader ""ojukwu"" is more popular than him

And I never said Nigeria only had one hero can a nation not have millions of heroes?

simple, Nigeria does not have a central hero. Nigeria can only be proud of patriotic citizens or vilien in the name of sanni abacha. Nigeria biggest bad boy.

Abohboy:
How are you secretly admired? There's no secret South Africa is the most developed nationin Africa and most Nigerians would rather live there then in Nigeria but our economy is the largest in Africa and South Africa's is the second largest so it's a necessary metric to measure is it not?

no , Egypt is the second largest.even after rebasing South Africa economy , she still failed to Cash up .

vaxx:
He wasn't Nigeria first man anyway , it was even the northerner who never want Nigeria to be independent. In the name of tafawa balewa and in terms of national contribution, anthony enahoro has done what Awolowo was just doing way back . He first moved the motion for Nigeria independence. And again Awolowo was more popular in south west governance than the national helm.

I even try by mentioning fela, fela is more popular than his mother thru his music as a political language.


Azikwe has no weight in comparable to Awolowo in south or balewa in the north. He is only popular in the east . Infact the latter biafra war leader ""ojukwu"" is more popular than him

simple, Nigeria does not have a central hero. Nigeria can only be proud of patriotic citizens not vilian.

I think Nigeria's current problem is the fact that, there is no unifying figure that everyone can rally around...

Just30:
actually it is not

I would have given you the link but since you won't read, I had to screenshot one of the most reputable source for you.

First thing first, let's check on economic sense.

Skyscrapers are usually situated in city centers where the price of land is high. Constructing a skyscraper becomes justified if the price of land is so high that it makes economic sense to build upward as to minimize the cost of the land per the total floor area of a building. Thus the construction of skyscrapers is dictated by economics and results in skyscrapers in a certain part of a large city.


Skyscrapers are rarely seen in small cities and they are characteristic of large cities , because of the critical importance of high land prices for the construction of skyscrapers. Usually only office, commercial and hotel users can afford the rents in the city center and thus most tenants of skyscrapers are of these classes.

Today, skyscrapers are an increasingly common sight where land is expensive, as in the centers of big cities , because they provide such a high ratio of rentable floor space per unit area of land.

What I note. Apart from esthetic & infrastructural development, Skyscrapers also neutralizes or even increase economy of scale on big cities where land are extremely expensive.

vaxx:
He wasn't Nigeria first man anyway , it was even the northerner who never want Nigeria to be independent. In the name of tafawa balewa and in terms of national contribution, anthony enahoro has done what Awolowo was just doing way back . He first moved the motion for Nigeria independence. And again Awolowo was more popular in south west governance than the national helm.

I even try by mentioning fela, fela is more popular than his mother thru his music as a political language.


Azikwe has no weight in comparable to Awolowo in south or balewa in the north. He is only popular in the east . Infact the latter biafra war leader ""ojukwu"" is more popular than him

simple, Nigeria does not have a central hero. Nigeria can only be proud of patriotic citizens or vilien in the name of sanni abacha. Nigeria biggest bad boy.

Which country has a central hero? Nobody said shit about a singular or a central hero there are many heroes where they were popular doesn't matter did they help gain Nigeria's independence? Did they help to develop the nation? Did they lay the foundation of the nation? Then they're heroes full stop

Just30:
I think Nigeria's current problem is the fact that, there is no unifying figure that everyone can rally around...

actually , it is part of the challenges. That is why the country is clamouring for restructuring. So that the old regional system can be practiced . If that be , the philosophy of Awolowo in south west can be implemented . The free education , emphasis on cash crop product etc which has been the benchmark of development in Yoruba region . Each region want to be self autonomous. The north may continue with their Islamic system.

Abohboy:
Which country has a central hero? Nobody said shit about a singular or a central hero there are many heroes where they were popular doesn't matter did they help gain Nigeria's independence? Did they help to develop the nation? Did they lay the foundation of the nation? Then they're heroes full stop

many country has a Central hero. Ghana and south africa comes to mind .


There is difference between hero and patriotic. Nigeria only has patriotic leaders not a hero or heroine .

Abohboy:
How are you secretly admired? There's no secret South Africa is the most developed nationin Africa and most Nigerians would rather live there then in Nigeria but our economy is the largest in Africa and South Africa's is the second largest so it's a necessary metric to measure is it not?

Well according to other Africans we South Africans are "lazy drunkards who don't wanna work" lol so pardon me for not being aware of this admiration you claim it's not secretly expressed.

Your economy may be bigger but basic services are not afforded to the average citizen so who is it big for?

Abohboy:
Not exactly dependant but they did go to Nigeria to try and bring in more industry into Ghana like when Nkrumah personaly asked Odutola to bring his tyre retreading and rubber factories to Ghana

Mention those tyre and rubber factories make we see? you guys like spreading falsehood too much.

Just as you guys claim you supply Ghana electricity etc and up till now there's no evidence to that claim.

Please, Asikiwe and Nkrumah were very close friends, that we know but don't go further by adding all false claims to the story.

We were taught history in Ghana too. We know our country just as you know yours so don't exaggerate.

Abohboy:
In terms of the CBD and businesses filling it up go and look at Abuja majority of the buildings in the CBD are funded by the government and there are dozens of empty plots lying fallow

Man, not all buildings are allowed in Abuja CBC, I believe those lands you see in the CBC are being mapped out, you will see more buildings there when it's time, heck even FIRS building has not been completed yet, how many Skyscrapers do your city London have?

Shma2020:
I would have given you the link but since you won't read, I had to screenshot one of the most reputable source for you.

First thing first, let's check on economic sense.

Skyscrapers are usually situated in city centers where the price of land is high. Constructing a skyscraper becomes justified if the price of land is so high that it makes economic sense to build upward as to minimize the cost of the land per the total floor area of a building. Thus the construction of skyscrapers is dictated by economics and results in skyscrapers in a certain part of a large city.


Skyscrapers are rarely seen in small cities and they are characteristic of large cities , because of the critical importance of high land prices for the construction of skyscrapers. Usually only office, commercial and hotel users can afford the rents in the city center and thus most tenants of skyscrapers are of these classes.

Today, skyscrapers are an increasingly common sight where land is expensive, as in the centers of big cities , because they provide such a high ratio of rentable floor space per unit area of land.

What I note. Apart from esthetic & infrastructural development, Skyscrapers also neutralizes or even increase economy of scale on big cities where land are extremely expensive.

This are the basic indicators of a developed City

indicators as follows: (1) population (mortality, fertility, population projections), (2) economic participation (employment, unemployment, vacancies), (3) poverty (access to bank accounts, children poverty, financial hardship, low-income households), (4) health (life expectancy, inability to work), (5) social capital (social inclusion, social networks, trust and reciprocity, civic participation), (6), environment (green environment, open space, air quality, recycling), (7) transport (transport volume, journeys to work and school, traffic accidents, cycling), ( education (children education, the highest qualification obtained, the qualification of the working population, training of young people), (9) safety of local communities (overall level of crime, antisocial behavior, violence, unintentional injuries), (10) lifestyle, (11) cultural vitality (involvement in sport and cultural events), and (12) mind-set (religion, politics, involvement in the community, trust, national identity).

Indicators of sustainable development reflect the complex and dynamic structure of the urban environment. With the adoption of Agenda 21 (1992), this type of indicator was developed by a number of institutions, including the World Bank (UN—Urban Indicators Programme), followed by indicators of the World Health Organization (WHO), as the analytical tools for studying population health and quality of life in urban environment.

vankelvin:
Mention those tyre and rubber factories make we see? you guys like spreading falsehood too much.

Just as you guys claim you supply Ghana electricity etc and up till now there's no evidence to that claim.

Please, Asikiwe and Nkrumah were very close friends, thats we know but don't go further by adding all false claims to the story.

We were taught history in Ghana too. We know our country just as you know yours so don't exaggerate.

Hahahaha am even suprised

Abohboy:
Not exactly dependant but they did go to Nigeria to try and bring in more industry into Ghana like when Nkrumah personaly asked Odutola to bring his tyre retreading and rubber factories to Ghana

so? if that is true,that is the usual way of attracting foreign direct investment. Zik was once employed with a newspaper in Ghana called ""Africa morning Post""

vaxx:
Azikiwe is just a patriotic Nigerian, not a hero. Nigeria does not have a hero or heroine figure.

So someone that fought for Nigeria independence and also became Nigeria first president is not a hero, but just a patriot Nigerian Right?
So keep the same energy with Kwame Nkrumah.
If you don't know the history of Nigeria, don't talk, or better still make research before you talk, there is no difference between you and rvp2018.

vaxx:
actually , it is part of the challenges. That is why the country is clamouring for restructuring. So that the old regional system can be practiced . If that be , the philosophy of Awolowo in south west can be implemented . The free education , emphasis on cash crop product etc which has been the benchmark of development in Yoruba region . Each region want to be self autonomous. The north may continue with their Islamic system.

Regionalism can be very divisive.

Nigeria shouldn't allow it

Roan77:
So someone that fought for Nigeria independence and also became Nigeria first president is not a hero, but just a patriot Nigerian Right?
So keep the same energy with Kwame Nkrumah.
If you don't know the history of Nigeria, don't talk, or better still make research before you talk, there is no difference between you and rvp2018.

so is herbert marculey , so is Anthony enahoro, so is Awolowo, so who among them really fit the national hero?

You guys need to learn .

Kwame nkrumah developed a party from infancy , mobilized and energise the youth, he was imprisoned , several attempt was made on his life . Such an individual can't be compare to Nigeria patriotic citizens.

Appisko:
This are the basic indicators of a developed City

indicators as follows: (1) population (mortality, fertility, population projections), (2) economic participation (employment, unemployment, vacancies), (3) poverty (access to bank accounts, children poverty, financial hardship, low-income households), (4) health (life expectancy, inability to work), (5) social capital (social inclusion, social networks, trust and reciprocity, civic participation), (6), environment (green environment, open space, air quality, recycling), (7) transport (transport volume, journeys to work and school, traffic accidents, cycling), ( education (children education, the highest qualification obtained, the qualification of the working population, training of young people), (9) safety of local communities (overall level of crime, antisocial behavior, violence, unintentional injuries), (10) lifestyle, (11) cultural vitality (involvement in sport and cultural events), and (12) mind-set (religion, politics, involvement in the community, trust, national identity).

Indicators of sustainable development reflect the complex and dynamic structure of the urban environment. With the adoption of Agenda 21 (1992), this type of indicator was developed by a number of institutions, including the World Bank (UN—Urban Indicators Programme), followed by indicators of the World Health Organization (WHO), as the analytical tools for studying population health and quality of life in urban environment.

Expound your brain. It's too shallow.
What you're talking about is human development not infrastructural development.

Zombie.

Just30:
Regionalism can be very divisive

that is the basis of federalism. Each region should have some self of independence.

@Shma

I know you are happy

That's nairaland for you

vaxx:
so is herbert marculey , so is Anthony enahoro, so is Awolowo, so who among them really fit the national hero?

You guys need to learn .

Kwame nkrumah developed a party from infancy , mobilized and energise the youth, he was imprisoned , several attempt was made on his life . Such an individual can't be compare to Nigeria patriotic citizens.

So because Azikiwe was not an activist, that went to prison, that made him less of hero right?
I keep learning new things here.
Not all heroes wear capes, they said.

vaxx:
that is the basis of federalism. Each region should have some self of independence.

I support this comment with 1000 bags of Dzata cement.

That will help a lot,
for the recent attitude of our Volta and Ashanti region guys, practicing federalism will help us a lot .

vaxx:
that is the basis of federalism. Each region should have some self of independence.

loose federalism is dangerous... especially when it is political loose federalism

Federalism is great when practiced properly and not arrange around religious or political line

Just30:
loose federalism is dangerous...

Federalism is great when practiced properly and not arrange around religious line

But we don't seem to have this religious demarcations here OR?

Roan77:
So because Azikiwe was not an activist, that went to prison, that made me less of hero right?
I keep learning new things here.
Not all heroes wear capes, they said.

maybe you will need to cross check the difference between patriotic and hero.

He was not even the first leader of Nigeria despite his partrotism, the key people that voted for him were simply the easterners , he doesn't even enjoy the privilege Awolowo in south west enjoy or that of tafawa balewa or Bello..


He was never Nigeria choice .

vankelvin:
I support this comment with 1000 bags of Dzata cement.

That will help a lot,
for the recent attitude of our Volta and Ashanti region guys, practicing federalism will help us a lot .

Ghana is too small for such. Federalism is too expensive to run , one of the reasons Nigeria is home to lot of poor people . So much money go to governance instead of the people .

vankelvin:
But we don't seem to have this religious demarcations here OR?

Nkrumah fought against it ....

By requiring all political parties to have political presence in all district.
Those who couldn't build political office in all district were ban from participating in any form of elections.


He also fought against all those interested in federalism because he realize they were only seeking that form of governance on tribal lines

vaxx:
maybe you will need to cross check the difference between patriotic and hero.

He was not even the first leader of Nigeria despite his partrotism, the key people that voted for him were simply the easterners , he doesn't even enjoy the privilege Awolowo in south west enjoy or that of tafawa balewa or Bello..


He was never never Nigeria choice .

Just see what you are saying, what do you mean he Nigeria first leader?
Who is Nigeria first president after independent?
Tafawa belawa was just a prime minister, after Nigeria independent, just like Boris Johnson.
I think it's high time you focus more on Ghana, you are not right person to determine who is Nigeria hero or not.

Just30:
loose federalism is dangerous... especially when it is political loose federalism

Federalism is great when practiced properly and not arrange around religious or political line

but scholars keep repeating it as the unifying force that can keep Nigeria together. The region must go by each philosophy.

vaxx:
but scholars keep repeating it as the unifying force that can keep Nigeria together. The region must go by each philosophy.

It will help Nigeria if Nigeria political sphere is demarcated not based on religious and tribal lines but based on simple economic interest..

Roan77:
Just see what you are saying, what do you mean he Nigeria first leader?
Who is Nigeria first president after independent?
Tafawa belawa was just a prime minister, after Nigeria independent, just like Boris Johnson.
I think it's high time you focus more on Ghana, you are not right person to determine who is Nigeria hero or not.

The prime minister is voted to power while the president was an appointed position. One carry the veto power of the people while the others is just a ceremonial figure. Nothing too specific,even the speaker of assembly is still more popular. Azikwe was just a ceremonial leader.

You are not educated on the topic

Just30:
It will help Nigeria if Nigeria political sphere is demarcated not based on religious and tribal lines but based on simple economic interest..

religious and tribal lines play important role in Nigeria politics. Check out the Federal character system.

The current vice president was a key pastor in winners chapel of God ministry .