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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:21pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:23pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Shma2020:Lol do you want to check Google maps? Cos construction can be seen from above? ![]() |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:24pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Shma2020:It's the same size as two rivers what's your point? |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:25pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
AfriqueDuZuid:Nope. Two rivers is 63, 000sqm |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:26pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
jl115:Lol theres this other lady from Nairobi living in South Africa on YouTube She explains Nairobi as is, she goes there ever3 |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:30pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Shma2020:Come with a better source
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 1:34pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
AfriqueDuZuid:I stayed in South Africa about 4 years that was before the World Cup. 3 months to the World Cup I live South Africa for Brazil. I have stayed mostly in the northern parts of South Africa very few times in Johannesburg. Most of my 4 years I spent it around Limpopo and Messina, at Panna seed company Farm, when I was there I was learning production of Maze hybrid seed. I also spent more than a year at seedco 22 km after Messina on the way to Limpopo. Unfortunately with my job I am mostly in the farming areas not the big city but I travel to the big city to buy equipments. A lot of times I travelled to Johannesburg especially pirate Motors to buy parts for the Farm vehicle. I visited Durban and Cape Town once, Western Cape also once. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:39pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:Yerr that's more than a decade ago, the was literally nothing between Johannesburg and Pretoria, now it looks like one thing You won't feel you went to two different places |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:40pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:A lot has changed since |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 1:45pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Abohboy:I did not say that it is bigger what i am saying is it malls in johannesburg. Dragon city maurice sarah close to johannesburg cbd head police station. Where do you have the 6 pass overhead. I think Dragon City mall it's less than 1.5 km from Johannesburg Central police station in the CBD. I have only been there twice |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:47pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
AfriqueDuZuid:Jorburg is not building any viaduct road as we're speaking - Nairobi is building 4 different viaduct roads. Jorburg is not constructing any 30+ fls as we speak. Nairobi is construction 12, 34fls - not including GTC. Those are grand projects that only Egyptian new cities can rival at the moment. Nairobi is building one of the biggest museum in Africa, mashujaa park. Nairobi has just topped out 6 GTC 43fls, 37fls, 33fls, 31fls, 30fls, 30fls modern apartments and finishing is underway. If you could reason with evidence, everything will be alright my nigga ![]()
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:49pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:If only there were some one who do city Vlogs unfortunately there are not really there For instance South Africa has largest data centers in africa, last month the new biggest one was opened in Johannesburg ,,,, this past weekend another huge one was opened in cape Town. All was OK no noise Yet in others countries it would have been huge news, the president would have came to cut ribbons |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 1:49pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
AfriqueDuZuid:but by dad time there was a lot of development I am Santon and Lovell. Also Pretoria which was the halfway point was coming up beautifully, I stayed in ravana for about 1 months |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:55pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Shma2020:I told you South Africa is no longer building tall buildings. Again more emphasis cement consumption. Johannesburg cement consumption same size than the entire kenya, consumption is one that tells you how much a place is building. Viaduct is depended on how city is constructed.... You see African tigress also stated that Harare is better planned than Nairobi. Guess what Harare does not have viaduct. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 1:57pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
AfriqueDuZuid:Please you need to stop using Nigeria as a benchmark because Nigeria is a total joke. Are governors and presidents can sign MOU with a company which does not exist or a company which has packed up 10 years ago . It would be news all over the place. Try to compare yourself with Nigeria is just a waste of time it's like tried to compare a cheetah with a snail in Speed. Something which is private development I don't see the Business of the government making noise about it. You have some countries the president we go and open a private housing scheme which has been bit by a private company is that a country |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:58pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Shma2020:Because everyone is flocking to one city in Kenya, you need tall buildings, traffic will be bad due to lack of planning you'll end up with many alevated roads and creating another mess |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:58pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:It was meant for Kenya in particular, they the one making noise over small things I mean now they have been speaking about building a data center in konza, while in a space of a month we opened 2 with no noice |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 2:08pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
You are no longer cannot afford to build it - otherwise you built Leonardo. Your economy cannot generate formal jobs required to fill such office spaces. That is all. Dead economy has no demand for effective economy. Kenya cement consumption is approaching 8M tonnes - South Africa is at 13M - for a country with 10m more people and twice as big as kenya. The slight edge you have on Nairobi - is going to disappear soon. From malls, to data centers, name it - infrastructure - all of it - we are catching up. Kenya as whole is one big construction site. As for silly neigberhood debate - all you need is to get a map of Nairobi metro built up area - and compare to province of Gauteng - it's pretty close. AfriqueDuZuid: |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 2:11pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
AfriqueDuZuid:Let me just inform everybody here you cannot use cement consumption as a perimeter for development or construction. Main reasons for this when I was in southern Africa I found out most of their houses are built clay bricks. Also they use a lot of floor tiles and arbestest roofs. Including tile roofs. I can say in a country like Nigeria 90% of the houses are built of cement. When do you go to Southern Africa like South Africa and Namibia, Zimbabwe does not use a lot of cement they prefer to use arbestest you only find about 30% of the house which is using cement. Cement is only used for flooring and plastering. Open the drainage pipes are made out of fibre. Right now some people are even claiming it is better to use glass fibre or only fibre to build |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 2:15pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
rvp2018:Most people are moving away from cement. When you go 30 years ago you want to build a water tank it has to be concrete or steel. Today 95% of the water tanks are poly fibre or plastic. It is the same thing with building people are moving away from concrete. In fact new research shows that glass is cheaper. Aluminium is also cheaper. One of the biggest problem with concrete is weight and how long does concrete take to dry, so what people are looking for is something which is lighter and can carry more load. Go to America and Canada today 80% of the houses are made out of wood including Sweden Norway even UK. France Germany Italy Portugal 60 per-cent of the houses are made out of wood yrd using wood because it's lighter and can carry load when you have to use concrete or 4 inches you can use wood of 2 inches |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 2:17pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
rvp2018:Lol a country with $150 billion budget cannot afford tall buildings? You know how ridiculous that sounds? South Africa’s domestic consumption is about 280kg per person, with the rest of Africa’s domestic consumption being comparatively lower: In the DRC, it is around 30kg per person. In Rwanda, it is 50kg per person. In Ethiopia, it is close to 100kg per person. Guess where Kenya is |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 2:19pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Cement and Steel pretty much still a good indicator for the construction industry. But as real estate - maybe not strictly - coz finishing is not cement only. SUFFERInSMILIIN: |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 2:20pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:Thank you also for that, that's a solid submission. However cement still remains the primary resouse for construction I belive many don't know that cities are moving away from tall building unless they have a high population rate issues |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 2:22pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Gov budget doesnt mean you have a private sector that is thriving enough to create jobs. If you did Joburg would look like a typical upper middle income country - Turkeys, China, Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand, etc Today your Africa exclude Egypt that does 550Kgs per bag. Kenya is at 160kgs per person But the time you've lost picture debate - and go into data like poor Ghana - then you're down and out indeed. AfriqueDuZuid: |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 2:23pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
vaxx:It definitely isn't a recent word and the word also refers to those doing it from man to man and yes there are concepts of lesbian sex mainly for ritual purposes concerning Osun or Oya LGBTQ isn't considered taboo in Yoruba or Igbo culture Please give me the part of the Odu Ifa where there is a logical warning Because I have personally talked with two Babalawos and they've both said there's nothing against homosexuality in the odu ifa and they were there and were able to practice in the past in fact they even had a special name I forgot what exactly the babalawo called it I had it on my old twitter account but it was shutdown |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 2:26pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
rvp2018:Lol this should not even be a debate.... We have a Kenyan in South Africa who's from Nairobi she has already , talked much on this Marwa spoke on this Trudy spoke on this Even a teenager who relocated to SA will tell you much, there's no comparison here |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 2:27pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
obaaderemi:You really think Europeans recorded everything they saw? And even if they did could they tell anything if they saw a women and a women or a man and a man together at any one time why would the assumption be of homosexuality? And where do you think the sources for Igbo female husbands comes from? It's from European scholars in terms of sex between man and man or woman and woman which is what i'm referrring to how are the Europeans expected to get access to such information? And something that isn't frowned upon doesn't have to be widely practised does it? Homosexuality is a rare phenomenon not occuring for most people so why would it be widely practiced if it isn't naturally occuring for most? |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 2:28pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
jl115:No it'snot what happens in reality it is what happens when you use poor technology and depend on cheap fossil fuels for all your energy needs China and America definitely produce more electricity from coal then South Africa but their levels aren't as high, you'd wonder why at first but the answer is clear the technology is more advanced there |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 2:30pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
rvp2018:Again South Africa has biggest and rubust private sector no African country comes close |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 2:31pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
obaaderemi:So being an activist for others rights and fighting against A-historical views somehow makes me gay? Does that mean Essien is gay? I said this before I don't care what the topic is no matter how crude or disgusting it is if that topic is against historical, cultural and religious evidence of any African culture i've studied then I will argue against it I may be wrong I will not lie but so far I haven't been given any sources or evidence to counter my claims and i'm sure my sources are reputable enough for me to trust them but as always I stand to be corrected |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 2:32pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
Shma2020:That's the exact same sime as two rivers so what exactly makes it bigger? So your point once again doesn't hold water |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 2:33pm On Oct 07, 2021 |
AfriqueDuZuid:Yeah very soon Pretoria and Johannesburg are likely to merge into a singular mega city the gap in land that used to lie between them is quickly being filled up by residential and commercial units |
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