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rvp2018:
Why do you want to condone or not private matters btw two people? There was a word for it. That tells me it existed. Women-on-women marriage definitely was recognised but not sexually. There was no lesbianism. But gayism or homesexuals existed.

Nearly all kenyan males who have gone to prisons are also sexually molested and most come out gays - I guess

Yes it existed .even Women-on-women marriage does exist today..but what i dont agree is one to put in such a way that african societies accepted that as a norm..its a taboo just like incest is...but still folks does practice incest eve today

rvp2018:
Dont compare yourself with developed countries. After you have developed, eliminated all the slums, dealt with housing deficit, then you can talk about gentrification.

South Africa is like Latin America - stuck in a middle class trap.

Many countries never get out of it - unless they invest heavily in education.

You're neither developed or developing - you're in no mans land - not poor - not rich - and most importantly not moving forward.

You see even blantyre in Malawi will be one of biggest growing cities in africa.

It's all by means of population not actual development

You're wrong - Kenya population inflexion point was in 2016 - from then our population has been growing less and less - we are about to enter into demographic transition.

Infact in some regions - schools are closing for lack of students.

This is why kenya is just about enter very high growth face - because soon we will have more adults than kids - and kenyans will become richer very quickly - have more savings.

Just like China - having 4 people working for 1 kid.

I think in about 5yrs - the working adults will be more than dependants - and that is the start of demographic transition - one of the precondition for fast economic growth.

AfriqueDuZuid:
You see South Africa will not experience a population boom, Kenya will do theres a need to build those tall buildings

Johannesburg experienced a population boom in 60s 70s that's why there was a need for those flats

Pretoria not so much, it built living green spaces,

jl115:
I still stand by what I said....there is no evidence of any white people killing black people during the looting spree in KZN

But your white cop was caught on the video you posted, shooting at black protesters, my dementia boet.

Guys lets stick to the mantra "Don't ask, don't tell" ..works all the time...

rvp2018:
I also agree. Homesexuality existed in Africa. In my culture it was known and practised by some folks.

Homophobes will never listen not knowing that homophobia is one of the fruits of white supremacy

vaxx:
well, the word adofuro remain open as the word is not specific. so biased people can find it attractive to misuse it and misapply it in anyway that suits them.

But the honest truth is , it is a new Yoruba Grammer. The word actually means he who has sex thru anus, in this essence , we know the word does not represent or qualify a woman, it is surely a man, cus naturally, it is only man who can penetrate. ""A do"" literally the act of penetration and " furo " the anus and her area . So in the morphemes, it is ""adufuro" he who penetrate the anus.

No part of the 256 odu ifa emphasised on lesbians or LGBT . It is unfortunate to include what is not part of Yoruba traditions into it. Ifa is silent about it, it doesn't mean it tolerate it.

Stop reading too much meaning into foreign babalawo. They even need education.

Odu iwosun owurin/ elerin emphasised on the benefit of sleeping with a woman as a man. You can take a read .

Foreign babalawo? Both of them are Nigerian and were born, raised and trained as Babalawos in Nigeria

How does your breaking down of the word Adofuro prove that it was solely for man and woman it could be easily referring to male to male and not male to female as you claim it doesn't provide enugh information for any conclusions to be made

Your point on the verse of odu iwosun owurin don't prove it was taboo ultimately yes sex in the normal is better but it doesn't mean sex with men and men or woman and women is a taboo

Yes the debate on whether to allow or not - will continue - but homesexuality will continue to happen btw bed sheets hopefully of consenting adults in AFRICA and worldwide.

mtisTheQubit:
Yes it existed .even Women-on-women marriage does exist today..but what i dont agree is one to put in such a way that african societies accepted that as a norm..its a taboo just like incest is...but still folks does practice incest eve today

AfriqueDuZuid:
Kenyans are like Rwandese

They projest it like it's this massive things wait until you actually visit it.

You mean pics are deceiving? What a kenyan post here is totally different with what a SAn post —or rather, on ground things are different on both parties ?

Stop thinking like a m0ron man. Pics are pics. If we start disputing the nice pics you post here saying that this black South Africans are like Zimbabweans, they will hype sh*t but on ground, they look sh*tty - will that make sense to you or even us ?

jl115:
nope...actually documented:

http://parabat.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/The_Battle_in_Bangui_-_The_Untold_Inside_Story.pdf


"In all, the fight cost 13 killed and 27 wounded. But the force retained its cohesion
throughout and was able to fall back from two separate engagement areas to its base and to
hold it until their attackers gave up trying to overrun them, offering, instead, a ceasefire and
disengagement. By then they had suffered as many as 800 killed, according to the estimates of
officers with considerable operational experience and by some NGOs in the country."

I don't need a fabricated story as an evidence, I need an actual facts, the rest are story.
But the fact stands, your thefts in uniform were massacred for nothing.

rvp2018:
Nairobi: The fastest city on the planet?

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/nairobi-fastest-city-africa/index.html

CNN Richard Quest travels the world - and he could not exclaim - and say - NAIROBI is WORLD FASTEST GROWING CITY.

Anyone who comes to Nairobi reguraly cannot help but exclaim “Nairobi is a Big Construction Site”

What does that have to do with economic growth as fast as the Asian tigers as you claimed? And Abuja was once also the worlds fastest growing city and an area of Abuja till this day is among the worlds fastest growing does it now mean that Abuja and Nigeria will grow as fast as the Asian tigers and catch up with Joburg? No it doesn't provide a source saying Kenya will grow as fast as the Asian tigers soon or shtu up

rvp2018:
Yes the debate on whether to allow or not - will continue - but homesexuality will continue to happen btw bed sheets hopefully of consenting adults.

True...an i hate debate on sexual matters..its btw 2 parties ..or three

Why are men discussing homosexuality? Ignore that topic and discuss something important. You guys want to be gays or what?

mtisTheQubit:
The issue is not about existence but did your society condone such act..was it a norm in your society...People used to murder others but did society condone such act...

Nobody murdered queers, they were seen as part of the society. White supremacy really did a number on us

Shma2020:
Why are men discussing homosexuality? Ignore that topic and discuss something important. You guys want to be gays or what?

weird heh....

Shma2020:
Why are men discussing homosexuality? Ignore that topic and discuss something important. You guys want to be gays or what?

On your last sentence.... That's not how sexuality works

Yes, it not my anus. Personally I am straight. But I have had very good colleagues who are gay - it's a little bit revolting - but everytime I remind myself to respect people and their choices.

Nothing will stop homesexuality - you cannot go inspecting people anus - so you can prove it.

Whether it reconginsed or accepted - some people will do it.

mtisTheQubit:
True...an i hate debate on sexual matters..its btw 2 parties ..or three

Exactly.

Flamemignon1:
Nobody murdered queers, they were seen as part of the society. White supremacy really did a number on us

Flamemignon1:
Nobody murdered queers, they were seen as part of the society. White supremacy really did a number on us

Bro forget about white supremacy..ya think your mother will encourage you to get a boy friend? just asking

Abohboy:
What does that have to do with economic growth as fast as the Asian tigers as you claimed? And Abuja was once also the worlds fastest growing city and an area of Abuja till this day is among the worlds fastest growing does it now mean that Abuja and Nigeria will grow as fast as the Asian tigers and catch up with Joburg? No it doesn't provide a source saying Kenya will grow as fast as the Asian tigers soon or shtu up

Don't confuse economy and infrastructure. Pics will speak volume than empty talks. I don't need to go to egypt to prove that Egyptian cities will one day be the most developed in africa. I just need pics backed up with projections stats.

But it false premise to imagine people become homesexual because they are encouraged or an advert is placed somewhere to get into it - I believe it's deeper than that. By the time someone want to have anal sex...it gotta be deeper feeling from their body.

mtisTheQubit:
Bro forget about white supremacy..ya think your mother will encourage you to get a boy friend? just asking

rvp2018:
Yes, it not my anus. Personally I am straight. But I have had very good colleagues who are gay - it's a little bit revolting - but everytime I remind myself to respect people and their choices.

Nothing will stop homesexuality - you cannot go inspecting people anus - so you can prove it.

Whether it reconginsed or accepted - some people will do it.

True...

rvp2018:
But it false premise to imagine people become homesexual because they are encouraged or an advert is placed somewhere to get into it - I believe it's deeper than that. By the time someone want to have anal sex...it gotta be deeper feeling from their body.

Ok msee tuwache hii story .. there are topics i really really don like discussing about...

Flamemignon1:
I've been following this thread for a while and all I can is that.... Look man, you've done your best to educate the ignorant but western indoctrination have so blinded them with hate that they believe homosexuality to be a foreign concept. Just live them to wallow in their ignorance. An homophobe will never agree homosexuality was present in Africa before the advent of the west no matter how much evidence is thrown at them

I don't think you can read
I don't think so

we never denied homosexuality being here
all we've been saying is "it was never accepted"
nobody did weddings for homosexuals

stop being a fool

western indoctrination?

you've taken something
it's really affecting your brain
bloody fools

Maybe you're closet gay. Embrace your sexuality. If you want to do it - do it. Just find consenting adult. The same way when I was new to Nairobi - I could not believe someone who do MouthAction - but soon I found myself doing it. Now in this region - MouthAction is almost a given - this life; let people maximize their bodies; nobody said the mouth or tounge is a sexual object - but some people experimented and soon it spread. Maybe anal sex is the thing you badly need _

mtisTheQubit:
Ok msee tuwache hii story .. there are topics i really really don like discussing about...

rvp2018:
Maybe you're closet gay. Embrace your sexuality.

No bro am straight... its just that there are stuff which puts me off..i dont understand the liking of a man while there are cuties around..thats just me...

Flamemignon1:
On your last sentence.... That's not how sexuality works

Let people who choose gayism be - their hormones drive them there. And If you're straight and you're busy discuss gayism sh*t then f*ck off. Ignore this sh*t or create a forum where you guys can engage with queers and understand it there.

Next time you work colleague or boss is gay - what will you do? quit your job? As long as it's someone free will and it's btw two or three or ten consenting adults; it doesnt affect you.

Shma2020:
Let people who choose gayism be - their hormones drive them there. And If you're straight and you're busy discuss gayism sh*t then f*ck off. Ignore this sh*t or create a forum where you guys can engage with queers and understand it there.

Abohboy:
Foreign babalawo? Both of them are Nigerian and were born, raised and trained as Babalawos in Nigeria

How does your breaking down of the word Adofuro prove that it was solely for man and woman it could be easily referring to male to male and not male to female as you claim it doesn't provide enugh information for any conclusions to be made

Your point on the verse of odu iwosun owurin don't prove it was taboo ultimately yes sex in the normal is better but it doesn't mean sex with men and men or woman and women is a taboo

Then if the so called babalawo is a trained Nigerian babalawo, he will have know better. I repeat no part of odu ifa mentioned or emphasised on lesbians or LGBT. It is not in anyway recorded. So his practiced is not known or forbidden even if at all it exist . It is either two ways. No aspect of Yoruba life that ifa didn't talk about as humanity is concern .

Aadufuro is an open word and can be misapply by whoever wish but the fact remain, it is not about woman to woman ( that is excluded) so if you mean , it is a man to man, you will have to substantiate with evidence .


1 .from any of the odu ifa( the only sacred knowledge of the Yoruba .

2. A known or folklore history that talks about it. Yoruba are the kind of people who are known to put their practice into folklore or moon night tales inorder to secured the knowledge or existing information .


A good example from each of this will put a yes to your assumption.

theTranscriber:
I don't think you can read
I don't think so

we never denied homosexuality being here
all we've been saying is "it was never accepted"
nobody did weddings for homosexuals

stop being a fool

western indoctrination?

you've taken something
it's really affecting your brain
bloody fools

And that's exactly how they reply, with insults rather than having a civilized conversation. Have a great day

rvp2018:
Maybe you're closet gay. Embrace your sexuality. If you want to do it - do it. Just find consenting adult. The same way when I was new to Nairobi - I could not believe someone who do MouthAction - but soon I found myself doing it. Now in this region - MouthAction is almost a given - this life; let people maximize their bodies; nobody said the mouth or tounge is a sexual object - but some people experimented and soon it spread. Maybe anal sex is the thing you badly need _

noo man..bythe way have done lots of stuff some scary but not ths ...about the oral s.ex thingy..dude thats funny

mtisTheQubit:
Bro forget about white supremacy..ya think your mother will encourage you to get a boy friend? just asking

Exactly what I'm saying.... It's the indoctrination of the idea that it's a bad thing. If nobody believes it's a bad thing, why won't she? But apparently, white supremacy shared it's fruits forcefully to Africans