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rvp2018:
Only if you put a link. Kenya poverty has never been 32 percent. When I worked for WB - poverty was 47 percent - and then it redueced to 36 percent in the 2016 national household survey. The northern Arid kenya has serious endemic poverty problem.

No other poverty analysis of that scale has been done...I guess it will be until 2025.

Poverty measured under the national poverty line declined from 46.8% to 36.1% of the population. ... Poverty declined considerably in rural areas, from about 50% in 2005-06 to 38.8% in 2015-16

Enjoy:

https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=ZA-KE

COSAT Khayelitsha

You actually should listen to me so I can teach you poverty. There many types of povery - extreme poverty, headline poverty, international poverty, food poverty bla de bla.

What you put ther is - Poverty headcount ratio at $1.90 a day (2011 PPP) (% of population)

In a country of extreme inequality like South Africa - and Kenya = that is NONSENSE.

jl115:
Enjoy:

https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=ZA-KE

rvp2018:
You actually should listen to me so I can teach you poverty. There many types of povery - extreme poverty, headline poverty, international poverty, food poverty bla de bla.

What you put ther is - Poverty headcount ratio at $1.90 a day (2011 PPP) (% of population)

In a country of extreme inequality like South Africa - and Kenya = that is NONSENSE.

fine lets take Poverty gap at $5.50 a day

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.UMIC.GP?locations=ZA-KE

rvp2018:
Look like it was doing well but went down when free primary school was intruduced - Kibera's Olympic primary went down. It was giant during our time. Those slums kids use to beat almost everyone.

Another difference you will notice with kenya slums - crime is almost zero - any little crime attract instant lynching - drugs and such very minimal - there is poverty but no serious structural probelms.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMQzCViL9SE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSRsOJUyvFs

This is a general case around the world poorer students tend to work a lot harder to escape poverty

That applies to everywhere in Africa a few months ago an old woman was robbed in a slum in cape town and they burnt the man alive with a tyre even in Nigeria same thing happens nothing special

I think you're interested in heckling - not in real debate. Again stay away from anything using PPP/GDP for poverty analysis in unequal country like South Africa. Kenya last HOUSEHOLD BUDGET Survey was done in 2016. Poverty had reduced from 47 percent to 36 percent.

jl115:
fine lets take Poverty gap at $5.50 a day

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.UMIC.GP?locations=ZA-KE

rvp2018:
I think you're interested in heckling - not in real debate. Again stay away from anything using PPP/GDP for poverty analysis in unequal country like South Africa. Kenya last HOUSEHOLD BUDGET Survey was done in 2016. Poverty had reduced from 47 percent to 36 percent.

I don't care....I compare apples with apples:

Poverty headcount ratio at $5.50 a day (2011 PPP

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.UMIC?locations=ZA-KE

This is not general case. In most places it's middle and rich kids who end up in good schools and good careers - and poor remain in inter-generational poverty. Escaping that vicious cyclic poverty is not a joke. It's very rare to find schools like Olympic where a millionaire in Nairobi Karen would take their kids to deep to poverty in Kibra because they will ace their exams..and almost for free...than taking them to private school.

Most slums you will find beset by serious structural problems - like drugs, crime, prostitution - it almost very hard for kids born there to escape it. Most slums kids end up rude, violent and almost unteachable. Soon they start beating teachers, skipping classes, perform poorly and drop out of schools.

You're just the obtuse Nigerian as always.

Abohboy:
This is a general case around the world poorer students tend to work a lot harder to escape poverty

That applies to everywhere in Africa a few months ago an old woman was robbed in a slum in cape town and they burnt the man alive with a tyre even in Nigeria same thing happens nothing special

If you dont care to have intellectual debate - I suggest you go hunting for your supper - primitive boer. I would hate your family to miss their wild beef come dinner time.

jl115:
I don't care....I compare apples with apples:

Poverty headcount ratio at $5.50 a day (2011 PPP

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.UMIC?locations=ZA-KE

rvp2018:
If you dont care to have intellectual debate - I sugges you hunting for your supper - primitive boer.

yeah you ain't capable of such..........

Of course, I am not capable engaging a primitive neaderthal who still hunt for a living. While the rest of neardethal in Europe were urbanizing and industralizing - you were down south - hunting with Khoisans. Thank the Brits-Jews for fixing your country bloody boer.

jl115:
yeah you ain't capable of such..........

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Sounds more like Netherland of the nether region.

jl115:
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rvp2018:
Of course, I am not capable engaging a primitive neaderthal who still hunt for a living. While the rest of neardethal in Europe were urbanizing and industralizing - you were down south - hunting with Khoisans. Thank the Brits-Jews for fixing your country bloody boer.

Case and point

rvp2018:
Sounds more like Netherland of the nether region.

nope just wanted to tell you one spells Neanderthal with a capital N

Which case, when Britis-Jews had finally civilized you, you got power, and all you could think is apertheid. Who does open racism in 1960s. You power reign last what - 50yrs or less. Now you're emigrating. Nobody cares about the Boer - you're almost a dirty word in people consicsousness for pulling open racism in modern developed world.

jl115:
Case and point

rvp2018:
Which case, when Britis-Jews had finally civilized you, you got power, and all you could think is apertheid.

case and point that you can't have an intellectual debate.......and it's spelt apartheid

I got you hunting for my typos. Why would I care. You're the worse breed of dutch people. Dutch are accomplished farmers worldwide. You're the scum of Europe. When dutch grew tall - seem your remained dwarf in almost everything - contended to hunt for squirels for a living.

jl115:
case and point that you can't have an intellectual debate.......and it's spelt apartheid

rvp2018:
I got you hunting for my typos. Why would I care. You're the worse breed of dutch people. Dutch are accomplished farmers worldwide. You're the scum of Europe. When dutch grew tall - seem your remained dwarf in almost everything - contended to hunt for squirels for a living.

you see that's all you can do.....throw racist insults....pathetic really!!

Hey Boer, when everyone gained independence in 1950s - 1960s, all your people could think about is apertheid while stealing black south african minerals? Now you want to compare yourself with Kenya - barren semi arid country with no minerlas.

The Africans who got independence - not a single country enacted racism - until Amin did it in 1970s against asians.

Now the Boers - all the primitive in National Party (dont hide under the white colour) could think about is apertheid.

Who does that?

If British had been intelligent - they would have handed South Africa to blacks - not Boers.

You know my feelings. You should not own farms or hunting in South Africa until blacks get their land and you can buy it. The best you should own is apartment and factories. That is where Mbeki failed.

How can we even compare kenya and south africa - one is saudi arabia of minerals - one is 89 percent semi arid barren wilderness - that is flying the black flag proudly above all.

jl115:
you see that's all you can do.....throw racist insults....pathetic really!!

jl115:
yeah you can, but your obsession with me and South Africa is pathetic really

I love south Africa

rvp2018:
Hey Boer, when everyone gained independence in 1950s - 1960s, all your people could think about is apertheid while stealing black south african minerals? Now you want to compare yourself with Kenya - barren semi arid country with no minerlas.

The Africans who got independence - not a single country enacted racism - until Amin did it in 1970s against asians.

Now the Boers - all the primitive in National Party (dont hide under the white colour) could think about is apertheid.

Who does that?

If British had been intelligent - they would have handed South Africa to blacks - not Boers.

Do you have nothing else??

Transcriber:
I love south Africa

Yeah ok

rvp2018:
You know my feelings. You should not own farms or hunting in South Africa until blacks get their land and you can buy it. The best you should own is apartment and factories. That is where Mbeki failed.

How can we even compare kenya and south africa - one is saudi arabia of minerals - one is 89 percent semi arid barren wilderness - that is flying the black flag proudly above all.

You done yet with your racism?

jl115:
Yeah ok

yeah sure

I love all Africa

Transcriber:
yeah sure

I love all Africa

ok

jl115:
You done yet with your racism?

you havent seen racism yet bro

that is not racism
that us telling if history

I am not a racist - but will continue to call out Boer racism - where a country so rich - has confine millions of black south africans to inter-generational poverty - is trying to compare itself to kibera or kenya slums - where every slum kid has a chance to become anything - like a kid in Karen or Runda or South Africa best neigherhood.

How many Kiberan kids have gone to IVY league - THOUSANDS.

We do not have insitutionalized racism or inter-generational poverty. Kibera kid knows he can make it life - they are very disciplined, and they ace their exams, they proceed to get scholarship to best high schools, to best universities and they suceed in their numbers.

South Africa remain the WORLD MOST UNEQUAL WEALTHY COUNTRY. The wealth is not from industries. You dont sell phones or cars. You sell BLOODY MINERALS.

jl115:
You done yet with your racism?

rvp2018:
This is not general case. In most places it's middle and rich kids who end up in good schools and good careers - and poor remain in inter-generational poverty. Escaping that vicious cyclic poverty is not a joke. It's very rare to find schools like Olympic where a millionaire in Nairobi Karen would take their kids to deep to poverty in Kibra because they will ace their exams..and almost for free...than taking them to private school.

Most slums you will find beset by serious structural problems - like drugs, crime, prostitution - it almost very hard for kids born there to escape it. Most slums kids end up rude, violent and almost unteachable. Soon they start beating teachers, skipping classes, perform poorly and drop out of schools.

You're just the obtuse Nigerian as always.

I was talking more about poor children working hard to get out of poverty and not about rich people going to schools in poor areas.

And how exactly am I obtuse?

rvp2018:
Very true. Kibera and kenya slums people actually climb out of poverty. it's very hard to find inter-generational poverty. In 90s and even now Kibera Olympic primary was one leading schools in kenya. In our university class - we had two kids from Kibera - ex-olympic - and there were many doing medicine, engineering and such courses.

Kenya slums are just a entry point for rural poor emigrating to urban centers.

Climb out of poverty to where?

Why is poverty increasing in your country when as you claim, people a climbing out of it.

Explain which path they have out of poverty

rvp2018:
Kenya poor have a real path out of poverty compared to South Africa apertheid system that codemn blacks to inter-generational poverty.
Kenya urban slums schools produced some of the best kids in our exams.
They proceed to go to schools like Starehe boys that sponsor them 100 percent - and go on to become the best in their lifes - joining the IVY leageues.

Kenya slums are not permanent station of life in Kenya

If two school could speak - Olympic and Starehe boys - it would be story of triump - of slums kids - extremely intelligent - extremely discipline - coming out of slums to be doctors, engineers, etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rTGYV31a8

Starehe boys - Alumni read like who is who in Kenya and the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-998qKJZUQ