Mkenya2019:
Again the key tenor of my argument. We can be better as people. We can treat animals better. We can treat humans better. Eating poor quality meat doesnt mean I happy with it. At least most kenyans have come to realize that walking animals thousands miles - then killing them - is big mistake. It better to truck them - and gas them.

As for your hunting - that is most boneheaded way to live a life. You're just a white trash. Stone age.

I agree you can always treat animals better but there will come a point where cost and animals rights would need to find a balance

Again 75% of Kenyan wildlife is gone thanks to banning hunting, just the animals in Africa's biggest hunting destination's SA, Namibia and Moz is more than the entire continent combined...all thanks to hunting. You can call it boneheaded but at least I know my meat is clean and harvested ethically and humanely....you have no idea where yours comes from.

Look at all this unnecessary violence when carbon monoxide is enough to kill animal and they die happy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHi3EVwBqR4

Abohboy:


So the verse where St Paul says women should be quiet in church and the other verse where is says women should be obedient and subservient to their husbands wasn't mysognistic to you?

I mean I don't blame you it is up for interpretation but for me i'd rather more Africans become open to traditional religions and beliefs which have been ransacked and dirtied by Christianity and Islam

Young nigga, the ishyt you say I doubt you've even wet your finger! You know nothing about anything-at all.

kikuyu1:


Young nigga, the ishyt you say I doubt you've even wet your finger! You know nothing about anything-at all.

Why tf would I listen to you? You fucking believe in all that Zionist bullshit and new world order so if anything you know nothing

Mkenya2019:
Look at all this unnecessary violence when carbon monoxide is enough to kill animal and they die happy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHi3EVwBqR4

And you are showing this why? you eat this type of meat and I don't

Unlike Nigeria (and I bet Ghana) at least kenya nearly every cattle is killed in abattoirs - and slaughter houses. What is missing is just gas chambers.

Kenya use to export beef to Europe and Middle east - but we dropped the ball. Now it's Botswana that does that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CNCjNILwAo

Abohboy:


Why tf would I listen to you? You fucking believe in all that Zionist bullshit and new world order so if anything you know nothing

Lol that's actually true

Mkenya2019:
Unlike Nigeria (and I bet Ghana) at least kenya nearly every cattle is killed in abattoirs - and slaughter houses. What is missing is just gas chambers.

Kenya use to export beef to Europe and Middle east - but we dropped the ball. Now it's Botswana that does that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CNCjNILwAo

Really ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7jhRPLhtM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_a7P5Av5x4

Mkenya2019

going to check out for a while have to go fetch my Bow from the bow shop got some new servings and a bit of maintenance

Embarrassed by your primitive country men - look like 100 people lynching one cow. You should lend them your gun or arrow - and put it to sleep.

jl115:
And you are showing this why? you eat this type of meat and I don't

mtisTheQubit:

Most Kenyan atheists I know believe they have everything covered. I'm not judging ...but I find most of them unscientific, simply following theories that cannot be proven for the sake of appearing intelligent ...When you try to educate someone, it all comes down to name calling...I see that as a sign of weakness and a lack of knowledge. Boss, there are some things in the world that science cannot be explain. Some people have seen them. I rest my case.

What happened to your treasurer, by the way? Heard he was reborn..He met Jesus .

jesus is for the Jews
not for the world

you're appropriating their stuff

Find a new hobby or a girlfriend or just go have a cold beer mate.

jl115:
Mkenya2019

going to check out for a while have to go fetch my Bow from the bow shop got some new servings and a bit of maintenance

Exactly. Atheist may be wrong but there is nothing more special in jewish religion than say africa religion like my community one that believed sun is GOD. It's mostly Africans who spend most of their time regurgiating jewish nonsense - that rest of the world do not give much of a damn.

Most chinese do not even care about GOD or gods.

theTranscriber:

jesus is for the Jews
not for the world

you're appropriating their stuff

Mkenya2019:
Maybe those newly converted into atheism and trying to discover themselves. I started atheism as 11yr old boy. I have had all the years to study all those scenarios and have by now concluded there is absolutely no GOd. I do not belong to any association of atheism but I support some of their ideas.

Where I live in France - there is absolutely zero tolerance to any religious symbols or teaching in schools. That is good thing we can borrow from. The french from 1920s long saw the sense to stop teaching kids nonsense and propagating the same nonsense to many generations. If kenya atheist pursue such noble goals..then I would support them.

atheism is as dumb as an African worshipping Jesus
no sense at all

You dont make sense. Atheism for me is believe that there is no supernatural being.

theTranscriber:
atheism is as dumb as an African worshipping Jesus
no sense at all

Those are maasai in their wilderness. Not in a town like those south africans.

jl115:

Really ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7jhRPLhtM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_a7P5Av5x4

Mkenya2019:
I think if you restrict the debate to computer hardware - then you'll realize India v China is pretty close - if you're talking manufacturing as whole - China of course is far more advanced.

Japan and Germany were very close to US in 199/1980s - what changed the fortunes of each - the information technology revolution - US went big on software - Germany and Japan went big on hardware. US as we speak is now 4 times bigger than Japan. In 1990s - it was almost at bar.

In 1995 - Japan GDP was 5.5B and US was merely 7.7B - then software revolution happened in the US creating lots of wealth - and now US has GDP 20B - and japan is stuck at 7B.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCNSqEwh7GQ

Hardware is very hard to innovate, and is easy to replicate.

Check who are the billionaires - software guys solving problems with existing hardware. Bill gates started making tonnes of money without ever building any hardware.

Actually, the real owners of Japan,the Rockerfellers insisted upon reducing Japan's growth with the Plaza Accords rammed through in 85.

INTERNATIONAL REPORT: A YEAR AFTER PLAZA ACCORD, CURRENCY ISSUES REMAIN DIVISIVE; IMPACT ON JAPANESE IS WIDE; AMERICAN HOPES UNFULFILLED

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/09/22/business/international-report-year-after-plaza-accord-currency-issues-remain-divisive.html

After they delayed signing the Accords which instituted a permanent stagflation a fully loaded JAL 747 on Tokyo to Osaka was shot down. Only 4 from 520 were found alive 12 hrs later. They grit their teeth and signed.

Edit: rmbr the late 80s? Not a day passed without bipartisan hollering from the US about Japan dumping cars and buying up Hawaai.
Rmbr?
The whole of the 80s America screeched and ululated much like the China noise today.

The True Story Of The 1980s, When Everyone Was Convinced Japan Would Buy America

https://www.businessinsider.com/japans-eighties-america-buying-spree-2014-9

Japanese Acquire Real Estate, Suspicion in U.S. : Investment: The brisk growth of property sales to firms and individuals has ignited fears that the Japanese will ‘buy up America.’

[url][https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-12-19-fi-659-story.htmlurl]

Hollywood got in on the act while the CIA's fav writer had a novel of a secret Japan strike using an airliner to take out the entire U.S. gov.
Mzee, believe you me Japs were saved by Saddam who diverted their attention. Otherwise democracy WOULD'VE fallen once again upon Nippon in the early 90s.
Fyi, SONY ACTUALLY stands for Standard Oil New York!?

jl115:

There are several verses from Ephesians to Galatians, Corinthians, Romans ect ect ...........Im not here to preach, google is your friend!

I want to ask you something

if christainity never got to Africa and Asia and Australia and the Americas

would all those people go to hell?
for instance me
my historical religion is orishá belief systems,if the British and Portuguese didn't bring christainity to Nigeria about 600 years ago,would all my tribesmen die and go to hell?
and if the grandfather of my grandfather died with his worship of Sango and Ogun etc
did he go to hell fire?


all of you guys on the thread can answer too
mtisthequbit
answer the question

jl115:
I guess Newton, Francis Collins(Invented positional cloning btw), JJ Thomson, John Eccles were all religious bigots.....

most of great scientists never even stepped in church during most of their scientific life. they just took religion as a playful stuff

Vlain:


U need to check again,this time take a deep breath and be honest with urself. The pain is there.
Me telling u that ur zoo cbd is not worth the attention of any serious person here ,talk more of comparing it with hillbrow is not me painting a false picture. It’s the freaking glaring truth. Heck I even brought visual evidence.
Painting false is what u dingbats do and
u have rvp as the chief heading that council.
Save me the floundering self pity and direct all that outbursts to those governing you.

So you think you hit our nerves with your stupid opinion You really are shallow.

Mkenya2019:
Sounds like you have it all figured out then - continue killing them instantly. I just cannot stand personally their grunting as they die.

says a Kenyan whose most popular tribe drink blood of animals


stop trying to seem intelligent or woke.It makes you look really dumb

jl115:
Gassing:

"Animals who are euthanized by gassing are more often than not crowded into a small, dark cage that smells of the urine, feces, and blood of animals who have already passed through it. Many animals may be put into the box at once time, most likely in an effort to save money on carbon monoxide"

@Mkenya2019

that guy wants so badly to sound smart but he's dumb as ffuckk
gasing chickens is just like fishing with pesticides
less stressful

same as killing with a sharp knife. killings are killings

any animals rights person that is not vegetarian is just a joker

mtisTheQubit:
Shooting an animal for the purpose of killing it is the ideal way for me. But the question is, do you do it for fun or are you killing for a need?
By the way, some people say that even fish have feelings... The same people who are murdering children in the name of abortions. The irony

seriously I'm getting tired of the madness of this world
a baby can be killed with toxic drugs even after its heart started beating
but a dangerous lion about to kill must be shot to disable

the world has lost it
madness upon madness everyday

they've even started doing transgender surgeries for 8,7,10 year olds

Saddamochieng00:

Who are you again?

I am that I am

Mkenya2019:
Unlike Nigeria (and I bet Ghana) at least kenya nearly every cattle is killed in abattoirs - and slaughter houses. What is missing is just gas chambers.

Kenya use to export beef to Europe and Middle east - but we dropped the ball. Now it's Botswana that does that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CNCjNILwAo

See how dirty the inside of your abattoir looks? mtsew

jl115:
Im talking about head of game of which there is barely a million in Kenya and over 30 million head of game in SA.....all thanks to hunting

You're the problem in SA. See why your government had to say about the declining rhino population.

The Kruger National Park in South Africa is where most of the country's rhino are being slaughtered. Authorities are battling to protect the species from poaching gangs.
As South Africa marked World Ranger Day on Saturday, the country's environmental authorities announced a setback in efforts to conserve the country's rhinos.
From January to the end of June 2021, 249 rhino have been poached for their horn in South Africa," said Barbara Creecy, the minister of environment, forestry and fisheries in a statement.

This figure is higher than the amount poached during the same period in 2020.

The country had been under a hard lockdown because of COVID-19 during much of that period. As lockdown restrictions have eased, authorities have seen an uptick in poaching activity.

South Africa's poaching problem
South Africa is battling to counter poaching syndicates who operate in the country's vast national parks. A large proportion of the slaughter took place in the Kruger National Park, where 132 rhinos were killed .

On other hand, Kenya rhino population had increased by nearly 30% since 2017 - thanks for wildlife conservationists.

Lion population going by two countries are nearly the same. TZ is the real champ there.

Other big 5. The likes of elephants, buffaloes etc. You can bring the stats.

Saddamochieng00:


So you think you hit our nerves with your stupid opinion You really are shallow.

This boy is dumb. I don't think he's a Nigerian. Nigerians on this forum only attack when they're attacked - they are kinda cool. But this doofus is always on Kenyan sh*t... Demolish him once and for all.

I am suprised they are killing that many rhinos - almost 10 percent - every year due to poaching. He is just happy to that "useless" animals have increased but critical animals are facing extinction.

Shma2020:


You're the problem in SA. See why your government had to say about the declining rhino population.

The Kruger National Park in South Africa is where most of the country's rhino are being slaughtered. Authorities are battling to protect the species from poaching gangs.
As South Africa marked World Ranger Day on Saturday, the country's environmental authorities announced a setback in efforts to conserve the country's rhinos.
From January to the end of June 2021, 249 rhino have been poached for their horn in South Africa," said Barbara Creecy, the minister of environment, forestry and fisheries in a statement.

This figure is higher than the amount poached during the same period in 2020.

The country had been under a hard lockdown because of COVID-19 during much of that period. As lockdown restrictions have eased, authorities have seen an uptick in poaching activity.

South Africa's poaching problem
South Africa is battling to counter poaching syndicates who operate in the country's vast national parks. A large proportion of the slaughter took place in the Kruger National Park, where 132 rhinos were killed .

On other hand, Kenya rhino population had increased by nearly 30% since 2017 - thanks for wildlife conservationists.

Lion population going by two countries are nearly the same. TZ is the real champ there.

Other big 5. The likes of elephants, buffaloes etc. You can bring the stats.

Do you even have abartoirs that big in Ghana


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z27Ekdkk2Zk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7IOjMDTVNI

vankelvin:


See how dirty the inside of your abattoir looks? mtsew

mtisTheQubit:

Most Kenyan atheists I know believe they have everything covered. I'm not judging ...but I find most of them unscientific, simply following theories that cannot be proven for the sake of appearing intelligent ...When you try to educate someone, it all comes down to name calling...I see that as a sign of weakness and a lack of knowledge. Boss, there are some things in the world that science cannot be explain. Some people have seen them. I rest my case.

What happened to your treasurer, by the way? Heard he was reborn..He met Jesus .

Bro. It's true what rvp2018 is saying. On a grand scheme of things, atheist are generally smarter and more intelligence than an average religious man.

What you've said is also true.
Intelligence — in rationally solving problems — can be understood as involving overcoming instinct and being intellectually curious and thus open to non-instinctive possibilities they just want to explore their thinking as they view things in their own perspective. That will not dispute the fact that there is a superior being somewhere.. It's just a matter of time before they come to reality.

There is this genius psychologist in USA by the name Jordan Peterson. This guy used to be an atheist. He later came to his senses and realized that there is a superior being somewhere. The dude is now a bone again Christian - give rvp time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbVwV8_TEkM

Saddamochieng00:


So you think you hit our nerves with your stupid opinion You really are shallow.

It’s sure seems that way from where I am standing. Deal with it,u are all over the place.

Mkenya2019:
Embarrassed by your primitive country men - look like 100 people lynching one cow. You should lend them your gun or arrow - and put it to sleep.

literally the same happens in your country? So what's your point?