hensben:
Good news. Sell Zyech or loan Odoi and sign Hazard.

Lmaooooooo
Is this guy stupid by default or he pretends to be

The quality of COPA America is poor compared to the EUROS how? The Euros is well publicized and they have got a lot of money and that's where it ends...

A continental competition that has Suarez, Cavani, Messi, Neymar, Di Maria, T. Silva, Allison (G), E. Martinez (G), Emiliano Martinez, Cuadrado, Valverde, Casemiro and a host of others can not be short of quality...

Most top Europeans teams have South Americans among their best players...But some how, a completion where all these array of stars represent their country is of low quality...

Nothing person no go read for Nairaland...

raumdeuter:


Having 10 teams in Copa does not make it a 3rd grade competition, cos Euro used to have 8 teams as well
What makes it a 3rd grade competition is
1. Lack of qualifiers, everyone qualifies
2. Invitation of non South American teams
3. Scheduling every weekend
4. Disregard for the tournament by participating players and countries

Fair enough.

raumdeuter:


Copa is the equivalent of the Euros but its not equal in quality

If Hazard cannot win the world cup, At least he should win the Euros

For a South American you have to win the world cup the next thing you can win is the Copa since you cannot win Euro and AFCON
For an African player after world cup next thing is Nations cup, Will that make Nations cup equal to Euro in quality

This your take is like saying since Dortmund can't win cl then they should win their league while still claiming that bundesliga is sh*t cos it's not as competitive or has more quality as EPL.

While I agree Euros is more competitive than Copa, but then that doesn't mean copa is sh*t na. Most world cup, at least a copa country will reach semi final even tho they've only 5 representatives. How then can you call their tournament useless cos of how their governing body deem it fit to schedule it

patrickmuf:
The quality of COPA America is poor compared to the EUROS how? The Euros is well publicized and they have got a lot of money and that's where it ends...

A continental competition that has Suarez, Cavani, Messi, Neymar, Di Maria, T. Silva, Allison (G), E. Martinez (G), Emiliano Martinez, Cuadrado, Valverde, Casemiro and a host of others can not be short of quality...

Most top Europeans teams have South Americans among their best players...But some how, a competition where all these array of stars represent their country is of low quality...

Nothing person no go read for Nairaland...

Like e just dey shock me

As like saying Belgium have stars but the national team no good

patrickmuf:
10 teams in a continent and you still want them to play qualifiers? I can bet that you will still come here to drag them if that was the case...

Disregard? When you were using the COPA to hype Allison you didn't know it was a joke competition?

As regards the schedule, it's the prerogative of the footballing body over there...

The surprise here is that prior to now, you didn't notice all of these things...

They are 10 countries so dem kukuma let everyone play
And last summer in a group, 4 teams qualify for knockout.
Allison won what was available but doesnt still make it a top tournament, Man City plays Carabao and win it. They jubilate but does not make Carabao equal to league title

If its the prerogative of the body to schedule it every weekend, then its the prerogative of the watchers to laugh at it

We noticed these things but we never knew there will be people who followed football and wont know that Copa is below Euros

Its like someone arguing that Concacaf Champions League is of same quality as UEFA Champions League just because its the top club competition in CONCACAF

patrickmuf:
The quality of COPA America is poor compared to the EUROS how? The Euros is well publicized and they have got a lot of money and that's where it ends...

A continental competition that has Suarez, Cavani, Messi, Neymar, Di Maria, T. Silva, Allison (G), E. Martinez (G), Emiliano Martinez, Cuadrado, Valverde, Casemiro and a host of others can not be short of quality...

Most top Europeans teams have South Americans among their best players...But some how, a completion where all these array of stars represent their country is of low quality...

Nothing person no go read for Nairaland...

Is it publicity that makes some teams decide to send WAEC students that cannot make 5 credit in one sitting?
Is it money for transport that is making them invite countries like Qatar Australia and Djibouti?
Is it publicity that makes them organize it every weekend and even bring it to your backyards

AFCON also boast quality like Etoo, Drogba Yaya, Kanu Okocha, Aboutrika, etc will it be compared to Euros? Most of these African players play for top European clubs

Next Nations cup we will have Aubameyang, Salah, Mane, Ziyech Mendy Koulibali Mahrez who are top players in top European clubs does it make AFCON equal to Euros?

I just pity you, if you waka anyhow, dem fit conscript you to play the next Copa America starting this weekend

Jodera:
This your take is like saying since Dortmund can't win cl then they should win their league while still claiming that bundesliga is sh*t cos it's not as competitive or has more as EPL.

While I agree Euros is more competitive than Copa, but then that doesn't mean copa is sh*t na. Most world cup, at least a copa country will reach semi final even tho they've only 5 representatives. How then can you call their tournament useless cos of how their governing body deem it fit to schedule it

Shikena

If you agree to the bold then we dont have issues. Copa fit dey puff chest beside AFCON and CONCACAF cup but when Euro reach make he calm down and pick his position

Jodera:
I'm talking of big chances here not half chance. Messi's chance wasn't a big chance while palacio own was in extra time (even tho his own is a big chance too)

Higuain own was as clear as Kai own, the only difference between Kai and higuain own is just one have a keeper and the other didn't. Even Chelsea missed chance against man city in the final but none was clean and clear like havertz own. I wouldn't have begrudge Higuain if it wasn't a clear big chance

Messi's was a big chance too. He got played in behind the defense, moved a few feet with the ball, placed it on his favoured left foot before blazing across the goal post...

raumdeuter:


They are 10 countries so dem kukuma let everyone play
And last summer in a group, 4 teams qualify for knockout.
Allison won what was available but doesnt still make it a top tournament, Man City plays Carabao and win it. They jubilate but does not make Carabao equal to league title

If its the prerogative of the body to schedule it every weekend, then its the prerogative of the watchers to laugh at it

We noticed these things but we never knew there will be people who followed football and wont know that Copa is below Euros

Its like someone arguing that Concacaf Champions League is of same quality as UEFA Champions League just because its the top club competition in CONCACAF

This is different cos top players test themselves in cl. All the best and supposed best players play in the cl cos it's a given. But you can't tell me someone like messi or cavani or Suarez will play in euros to test themselves.

Moreover, I hardly see top players in the continent(maybe aside Brazil) that request not to play in the competition.
From cavani to Suarez to messi... They all crave to play in that competition

raumdeuter:


Shikena

If you agree to the bold then we dont have issues. Copa fit dey puff chest beside AFCON and CONCACAF cup but when Euro reach make he calm down and pick his position

The competitiveness and quality is not vast oo. Is just like difference between EPL and la liga. And just as time difference affects la liga to most match watchers is how it affects copa too. Abi you think say if their matches is aired during the day most fans across Europe and Africa won't watch it thus increasing its viewership?

Amoto94:
Koulibaly on Édouard Mendy not being nominated for the Ballon d’Or:

“It’s a real shame Édou isn’t one of them. He is the first African goalkeeper to win the Champions League. We have to do double the work of some people to be judged.”

It's a crying disgrace honestly

AnfieldFan:


Messi's was a big chance too. He got played in behind the defense, moved a few feet with the ball, placed it on his favoured left foot before blazing across the goal post...

Messi was charged down, the angle was slightly narrow. For messi quality he should have scored but nobody will blame him for missing cos that can happen. It's easier for messi to miss than to score in that angle. Same can't be said of Higuain whose own was easier to score than to miss

Jodera:
This is different cos top players test themselves in cl. All the best and supposed best players play in the cl cos it's a given. But you can't tell me someone like messi or cavani or Suarez will play in euros to test themselves.

Moreover, I hardly see top players in the continent(maybe aside Brazil) that request not to play in the competition.
From cavani to Suarez to messi... They all crave to play in that competition

The same way you cannot tell Salah or Pulisic to test themselves at the Euros it still doesnt take away that their continental competition is inferior

This in bold already puts a dent on the tournament. Imagine if Real Madrid is sending Castilla to some seasons of the Champions league

Jodera:
The competitiveness and quality is not vast oo. Is just like difference between EPL and la liga. And just as time difference affects la liga to most match watchers is how it affects copa too. Abi you think say if their matches is aired during the day most fans across Europe and Africa won't watch it thus increasing its viewership?

Is it about watching or about quality? People wait for 2yrs for next season of Game of Thrones, Ayamatanga and Papa Ajasco but Copa America you dont need to wait its available on demand. Just turn on your TV there is a Copa going on

When world cup was in USA and Brazil in the same timezone people stayed up to watch, but when its Copa we start earing about timezone difference, what other excuse wont we hear, Patrick is going to tell us its because of eclipse of the sun and wind

raumdeuter:


Shikena

If you agree to the bold then we dont have issues. Copa fit dey puff chest beside AFCON and CONCACAF cup but when Euro reach make he calm down and pick his position

More competitive but all tier 2 competitions just below the World Cup.

raumdeuter:

The same way you cannot tell Salah or Pulisic to test themselves at the Euros it still doesnt take away that their continental competition is inferior

This already puts a dent on the tournament. Imagine if Real Madrid is sending Castilla to some seasons of the Champions league

Like I said, can you show me any recognized copa country in the last 20yrs who sends inferior squad to participate in copa tournament?

patrickmuf:
The quality of COPA America is poor compared to the EUROS how? The Euros is well publicized and they have got a lot of money and that's where it ends...

A continental competition that has Suarez, Cavani, Messi, Neymar, Di Maria, T. Silva, Allison (G), E. Martinez (G), Emiliano Martinez, Cuadrado, Valverde, Casemiro and a host of others can not be short of quality...

Most top Europeans teams have South Americans among their best players...But some how, a completion where all these array of stars represent their country is of low quality...

Nothing person no go read for Nairaland...

Lmao have you watched a COPA America game or CONMEBOL qualifier between Chile and Uruguay or Paraguay and Argentina. Some of the worst Haram ball you've ever seen in your life na South america dem dey play am so don't even go there

raumdeuter:


Is it about watching or about quality? People wait for 2yrs for next season of Game of Thrones, Ayamatanga and Papa Ajasco but Copa America you dont need to wait its available on demand. Just turn on your TV there is a Copa going on

When world cup was in USA and Brazil in the same timezone people stayed up to watch, but when its Copa we start earing about timezone difference, what other excuse wont we hear, Patrick is going to tell us its because of eclipse of the sun and wind

Na now you answer my question. You think it's not because Nigeria participated in said world cup that's why people are watching. You think Nigerians will wake up around 2am to watch Germany vs France match even if it's euros? Except final or sort or Nigeria is playing will you see few people wake up to watch such a match as such hour.

Now I even get their reason why they're even inviting other continental nations sef. It's to boost viewership

So yes, it's about watching. No how Brazil vs Uruguay wants to play and with the kind of players each country have that someone wouldn't want to watch, but once it's at such hour(middle of the night), that's a turn off

Jodera:
Na now you answer my question. You think it's not because Nigeria participated in said world cup that's why people are watching. You think Nigerians will wake up around 2am to watch Germany vs France match even if it's euros? Except final or sort or Nigeria is playing will you see few people wake up to watch such a match as such hour.

Now I even get their reason why they're even inviting other continental nations sef. It's to boost viewership

So yes, it's about watching. No how Brazil vs Uruguay wants to play and with the kind of players each country have that someone wouldn't want to watch, but once it's at such hour(middle of the night), that's a turn off

Both tournaments in USA and Brazil Nigeria was out by 2nd round yet many Nigerians watched till the final,. How many people even knew there was a Copa going on this summer

Brazil vs Germany was not the final and many people stayed up to watch it

Jodera:
Like I said, can you show me any recognized copa country in the last 20yrs who sends inferior squad to participate in copa tournament?

You already mentioned it Brazil the biggest country in South America chose to disrespect the tournament and you want others to respect it

I am asking you if Madrid start sending Castilla pupils to CL what will you think of it

raumdeuter:


Both tournaments in USA and Brazil Nigeria was out by 2nd round yet many Nigerians watched till the final,. How many people even knew there was a Copa going on this summer

it's still same thing na. Nigeria in that competition was the x-factor and even the viewership will reduce after our elimination coupled with the fact it's a world cup

Do you think Nigeria will wake up by 2am to be watching euros consistently the way this passed euros was watched?

raumdeuter:


You already mentioned it Brazil the biggest country in South America chose to disrespect the tournament and you want others to respect it

I am asking you if Madrid start sending Castilla pupils to CL what will you think of it

Lol.. It's not only by brazil that's the biggest na. Argentina nko. If brazil chose to disrespect it, you think it'll concern others, wen they're vying for same trophy?

If e like let Madrid send castilla, as long as Bayern barca man u Chelsea et al sends their big team, nobody go send Madrid.

raumdeuter:


Mendy calling it polling booth

This is why Ogogo said "Gbogbo wa la ma je breakfast"

andrewbaba44:


Na Argentina I blame wey no beat Germany give una mouth

Argentina failing to beat Germany really cause a lot of damage ,we suppose find higuain and palacio tie them rope and flog them 100 strokes each

Wetin consign me And last 20 years ,Na the whole history be my business oooo

Argentina couldn’t beat an Iceland team that made their debut in the last World Cup, so much for “European teams are farmers”

devvy44:


Argentina couldn’t beat an Iceland team that made their debut in the last World Cup, so much for “European teams are farmers”

it happens. Even reigning champions France lost against debutant Senegal in world cup

Jodera:
it happens. Even reigning champions France lost against debutant Senegal in world cup

But if ronaldo had scored against a team like Iceland, you guys will quickly compare them to the like of Bolivia then proceed to list out the profession of those players


Rest

Amoto94:
Koulibaly on Édouard Mendy not being nominated for the Ballon d’Or:

“It’s a real shame Édou isn’t one of them. He is the first African goalkeeper to win the Champions League. We have to do double the work of some people to be judged.”

Racism will Neva end in D's wicked world...Unfortunately d bolded is very true...it takes a black man double effort to prove he's better than a white man

Jodera:
Lol.. It's not only by brazil that's the biggest na. Argentina nko. If brazil chose to disrespect it, you think it'll concern others, wen they're vying for same trophy?

If e like let Madrid send castilla, as long as Bayern barca man u Chelsea et al sends their big team, nobody go send Madrid.

Have you read where Mexico also send their under aged team to the Copa just for the senior team to focus on something else

patrickmuf:
The quality of COPA America is poor compared to the EUROS how? The Euros is well publicized and they have got a lot of money and that's where it ends...

A continental competition that has Suarez, Cavani, Messi, Neymar, Di Maria, T. Silva, Allison (G), E. Martinez (G), Emiliano Martinez, Cuadrado, Valverde, Casemiro and a host of others can not be short of quality...

Most top Europeans teams have South Americans among their best players...But some how, a completion where all these array of stars represent their country is of low quality...

Nothing person no go read for Nairaland...

One thing I've noticed about europe is the many minnows competing against the few elite teams. Everywhere you look, you see minnows. No wonder england and the likes are thrashing teams like san marino and andorra.

devvy44:


But if ronaldo had scored against a team like Iceland, you guys will quickly compare them to the like of Bolivia then proceed to list out the profession of those players


Rest

Lol.. The person's post you quoted didn't even talk about Ronaldo scoring against lowly team or sort na.
Perhaps you're carrying preconceived beef and lashing it out on the wrong post.

Just calm down chief

raumdeuter:


Have you read where Mexico also send their under aged team to the Copa just for the senior team to focus on something else

Mexico is a concacaf team not a copa team na(correct me if I'm wrong), so it might clash with their own schedule and they don't owe copa anything


I'm talking of a copa team that sends inferior squad or players to the competition