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Alshabaab cannot even drive a toyota landcruiser in kenya - Boko haram are fighting a conventional war with your militia. Kenya like US or France or London will experience lone wolf terror attacks...what is unacceptable is to have Boko Haram occupy territory, taxes Nigeria and actually drive APCs.

Dont compare terrorism with Islamic caliphate in Nigeria.

This is not terrorism - this occupying force.

obaaderemi:
Boko haram has never operated in Lagos. Alshabab strolls into Nairobi.

They had stockpilled arms in their highlands - knowing the war will eventually come. The Nobel Laurate should not have waged that war. Everyone told him it was a stupid move - he didnt listen. Now he is probably going to end up at ICC to face war crimes.

Saddamochieng00:
That's crazy. So where are these Tigrays getting all this firepower to take on the government?

Mkenya2019:
They had stockpilled arms in their highlands - knowing the war will eventually come. The Nobel Laurate should not have waged that war. Everyone told him it was a stupid move - he didnt listen. Now he is probably going to end up at ICC to face war crimes.

Ethiopia seems to be in some serious trouble now. With all their military might I'd expect them to be crushing all this rebel groups.

Vlain:
I sure can tell you that u my friend is anything on God’s green earth but clever. Clever isn’t going online to source out really boring insults to use on some else who apparently roasted you so creatively. I honestly don’t know which I find more disgusting,the fact that you stole from no where else but NL(the guts) or the fact that you shamelessly made it looked like it was your own creatives. For the record it’s was boring btw.

Stupid people don’t usually have the capacity of recognizing the intelligence of a smart person unless being told. That is why some of you have to wait untill theenchanter had to come and copy search for similarities of word and conclude it was stolen . When in actuality less than 10 lines of 50 words used in the written were similar .

To even string a word that does not originally belong to you and make it yours in a passive way is even intelligence on its own . And repeating without number that the words I used are originally not mine isn't going to change the inchorency in your own reasoning .

Mkenya2019:
Defeat Boko Haram, Kidnappers, Cattle Rustlers and Jihadist before you waste so much word

at least you got my point.
Defence budget×2
Hard wares x10

vaxx:
Stupid people don’t usually have the capacity of recognizing the intelligence of a smart person unless being told. That is why some of you have to wait untill theenc.hanter had to come and copy search for similarities ofb word and conclude it was stolen . When in actuality less than 10 lines of 50 words used in the written were similar .

To even string a word that does not originally belong to you and make it yours in a passive way is even intelligence on its own . And repeating without number that the words I used are originally not mine isn't going to change this stupidity of yours.

pls, continue ur sheer stupidity without mentioning me..... And if the need to talk about me arises, learn to insert dot (.) Between the moniker or just do whatever u like, sha don't appear on my mentions if u won't make sense.

Thanks.

theenchanter:
pls, continue ur sheer stupidity without mentioning me.

Thanks.

so far you are responsible for the madness, your moniker will be mentioned.

I have no intention to mention you but where it is required , you will be called .

You can't sized to escape your own foolishness.

Mkenya2019:
KDF budget is now heading 1.5B for 25,000 well trained and discipline forces. One KDF gun can buy 20 Ak47. Nigeria total military budget is 1.6B i think - somehow it gathers for 360,000 troops.

It's now wonder Nigeria is insecure.

Look at Kenya 3B dollar security budget..

NAIROBI, Kenya, Jun 10 – The National Treasury on Thursday allocated a whooping Sh294.5 billion to the country’s security agencies, in the budget estimates for the financial year 2021 to 2022.

The amount allocated in the Sh3.4 trillion national budget will be shared among the National Police Service, Defence Forces, and the National Intelligence Service.

Treasury Cabinet Secretary Ukur Yattani said Sh119.8 billion will be allocated for Defence, Sh42.5 billion for the NIS, and Sh110.6 billion for policing and prison services.

No matter how you twist it, Nigeria's military and security budgets are higher than yours hence the fact that we have more and better hardware than you.

And boko haram is limited to a small part of the northeast unlike Kenya where alshabab from Somalia wanders into Nairobi and kill you like chickens.
Security is more about intelligence. Without that boko haram would be operating in Lagos too, but they can't because we can never allow such to happen unlike Kenya where they come into Nairobi and hold you captive.

IGpro1:
at least you got my point. Defence budget×2 Hard wares x10

Defence budget more like ×3.

Saddamochieng00:
I thought the dude had won a Nobel prize some few years back and everything was on track for them to become a powerhouse in Africa. I guess Kikuyu1 was right all along.

I told you! Unlike us where we're reminded of post Uhuru issues every election season these guys have genuinely authentic historical grievances from over a century old to even 500 yr old grudges!?

Habesha used to remove the breasts, arms, legs of the Oromo people during Menelik Conquests

https://ayyaantuu.org/habesha-used-to-remove-the-breasts-arms-legs-of-the-oromo-people-during-menelik-conquests/

In the nineteenth century, the Amhara people, who considered themselves the successor to the ancient Christian kingdom of Aksum with roots going back 2,000 years, attempted to consolidate their rule over other ethnic groups including the Oromo, who were concentrated in the country’s south. The Amhara believed they were restoring a mythological “greater Ethiopia” that existed prior to Oromo invasion.The Amhara under emperors like Menelik II utilised modern weapons and European advisors against their opponents, who fought with spears. The result was devastation and death on an enormous scale. Between 1868 and 1900, half of all Oromo were killed. The tactics employed were brutal. Following the defeat of the Oromo Arsi tribe of the Bale region, for example, Menelik’s general had the right hands of all strong men cut off and tied to their necks, and the breasts of the women sliced off and similarly worn.

Btw,some Ethiopian Borana hotties themselves told me this story around 07. As for Habesha anti Somali feeling:

There are Ethiopians Orthodox who hate Somalis but that dates back to Ahmed Gragn and stems really from hating Muslims regardless if they're Somali or Ethiopian (

https://www.reddit.com/r/Somalia/comments/52iq9k/why_do_you_guys_hate_ethiopians/

With the success of Ahmed Gragn, Ethiopia almost became a Islamic state in the 16th century.

https://ethiopianhistory.com/Imam_Ahmad_ibn_Ibrahim_al_Ghazi/

500 yrs,15 generations later the Habesha rmbr this ishyt like it was last Thursday!?

obaaderemi:
Your military budget is less than a billion, ours is $2.5bn. I expect you to factor in per capita as usual.

Our military is far ahead of yours, boy. Your kdf is useless. We've seen how they struggle in Somalia.

Nigeria military budget will increase to $3bn next year.

Mkenya2019:
Replace Ethiopia with Nigeria. You lack what makes a good army. The results is obvious. Boko Haram, Kidnappers, Islamic Jihadist and name it have made Nigeria insecure.

Kenya army is well funded, well motivated, well trained, very disciplined, proffesional and modern army. An army that is regularly called to provide peace keeping mission in Europe and Asia. KDF train regularly with British Army.

The army is not having a million soldiers paid in peanuts with rusted equipments. That is MILITIA like Nigeria and Ethiopia.

Kenya has 25,000 troops with twice Ethiopia defence budget - about same with Nigeria - with 360,000 troops. Think about that. You see how 10,000 troops of Ethiopia Def force are being arrested daily. They have very old rickety guns and are walking or hitching lift in old lorries.

Africa need modern lean force like KDF. Find me another Africa force with such impressive peace keeping mission profile - that tell KDF is a world class disciplined force.

https://mod.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/index.jpg

Look at these operational pix. The first was when the Som op kicked off. the 2nd series are the NA convoys. A mission critical bit of kit is missing among the Naijjans. Hint:comms. Also the NA vehicles are civvy with camo.

The "shocking" state of the Nigerian army has delayed plans for a military intervention in Mali, amid reports that it lacks the capability to fight on the frontline.

A senior source in Mali told the Guardian that a lack of training and discipline among Nigerian troops – who are being heavily relied on by regional bloc Ecowas to oust Islamists in control of northern Mali – is becoming increasingly apparent

10 yrs ago.

The Nigerian army is in a shocking state," said the source, who has seen recent assessments of Ecowas's military capability. "In reality there is no way they are capable of forward operations in Mali – their role is more likely to be limited to manning checkpoints and loading trucks."

[url]https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed/url]
Nothing has changed in a decade!? comparison.

rvp2018:
Won a war - after losing a whole province for a like a year to Uganda - then you had to release all prisoners, combined the police and all that to take a very weaken Uganda militia.

Why did Amin chose to attack Tanzania - not Kenya?

Kenya fought Shifta seccession wars with Somalia in 60s and 70s and preferailed.

Alshabaab we are fighting inside Somalia and have colonized Jubaland...the Kismayu governor report to Kenya.

Son,you don't know why amin entered Tz?
It was because Tz was hosting Milton Obote,the ex president who was toppled by Amin. After Tz refusal to do what Uganda asked,then Amin came and thought we were sleeping!
Surprisingly, we kick him,entered Uganda,we put a new president, and colonized the nation for months.Remember, we won a war while Uganda was helped militarily by Libya.
Have you done that? Have u done that? Have u?

Mkenya2019:
They had stockpilled arms in their highlands - knowing the war will eventually come. The Nobel Laurate should not have waged that war. Everyone told him it was a stupid move - he didnt listen. Now he is probably going to end up at ICC to face war crimes.

They are getting weapons from outside the country. The few weapons they had couldn't last them after a year of fighting.

Dar es salaam Tanzania
CRDB headquarters, palm beach

https://allafrica.com/stories/202110180235.html
How the Nigerian military paid cash to buy back an anti-aircraft gun that posed a threat to President Muhammadu Buhari, who flew through the endangered airspace to his hometown, some 80 miles away. Kidnapping gangs had seized the anti-aircraft gun during a clash with a military unit.

Kazikazi:
They are getting weapons from outside the country. The few weapons they had couldn't last them after a year of fighting.

Weapons is overrated..army motivation n discipline is everything.Tigray knew when to withdrew, when to hide, when to attack.Tactical discipline.Rwanda can overrun Tanzania..like they did congo that huge country.Countries should spend money on training, motivation, discipline, professionalIsm of the the troops...any indiscipline should led to summary dismissal.This is why Kenya does not focus on having thousands of soldiers..just 25,000 supported by air force and we'll maintained gear...that lethal force.But go for ranking...useless Ethiopia militias is ranked highly coz it has a million militias.Compare to Kenya where merit is key to promotion..you need to earn military science degree to become officer..you stagnate in any rank you go home... early retirement.4yrs as general you retire..no tribalism..no dead wood.any indiscipline even in your village that summary dismissal.Then throw nearly 100k USD life insurance paid promptly to family of any dead soldiers.Life insurance.Medical insurance.Very competitive salaries.Best school for their kids and housing.

NTSA:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202110180235.html
How the Nigerian military paid cash to buy back an anti-aircraft gun that posed a threat to President Muhammadu Buhari, who flew through the endangered airspace to his hometown, some 80 miles away. Kidnapping gangs had seized the anti-aircraft gun during a clash with a military unit.

Nigeria n DRC don't have an army...British n American soldiers send to fight boko Haram with them...saw crazy stuff... Nigeria army sell weapons to boko Haram.At least Ethiopia if motivated can fight...but Nigeria militia is too corrupt to do anything...that is why country isry insecure... Ethiopia on normal day is very secure

rvp2018:
Weapons is overrated..army motivation n discipline is everything.Tigray knew when to withdrew, when to hide, when to attack.Tactical discipline.Rwanda can overrun Tanzania ..like they did congo that huge country.Countries should spend money on training, motivation, discipline, professionalIsm of the the troops...any indiscipline should led to summary dismissal.This is why Kenya does not focus on having thousands of soldiers..just 25,000 supported by air force and we'll maintained gear...that lethal force.But go for ranking...useless Ethiopia militias is ranked highly coz it has a million militias.Compare to Kenya where merit is key to promotion..you need to earn military science degree to become officer..you stagnate in any rank you go home... early retirement.4yrs as general you retire..no tribalism..no dead wood.any indiscipline even in your village that summary dismissal.Then throw nearly 100k USD life insurance paid promptly to family of any dead soldiers.Life insurance.Medical insurance.Very competitive salaries.Best school for their kids and housing.

Son,
Have gone back into your grass smoking?
How can Rwanda which lack a navy overrun a nation like Tanzania? How will they reach Zanzibar and other thousands of islands in this massive nation without a navy?
Hohohohohohohoho Hohohohohohohoho Hohohohohohohoho
Do u know...
1.Kagame was trained by Tanzania's intelligence agency?
2.Tanzania's has no tribalism. The army is united unlike these tribalist nations like kenya?
3.The most important thing about any military mission is intelligence. And Tz intelligence is way above there, competing with developed nations. It's TZ intelligence state security (TISS) which trained Kagame,Kabila(DRC president), Museveni,a Ugandan president, and Nyusi,a moz president.
4. When we talk about discipline, Tz army is way ahead.We don't do empty talk and lies
Kenya army his in a bush,is this discipline??https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/africa/shabab-kenya-terrorism.html

Expressway South B.

Girders installation at nyayo.

Mkenya2019:
Yes he is smoking a lot of weed. Kenya will never be affected by trouble in region. It has happened before - 60,70s, 80s, 90s and even 2000s kenya will always remain a safe haven.

What will happen actually is that kenya will THRIVE. It become an oasis of peace

All the warlords from regions will rush to Nairobi to live, invest and operate from there. They will bring their illicit money to kenya. In fact before the stupid decision to go Somalia....Alshabaab were some of biggest investor...bringing piracy money to Nairobi

Go to Nairobi now - some biggest real estate investors are Ethiopians, Eritreas, Burundians, Rwandese, and Somalis.

NGOS and UN will similarly find home in Nairobi....while working to assist the war torn regions.

Only way kenya can go down is through our own tribal wars like 2007 - but Kenyans quickly resolve political issues.

What kenya has going for it - one of Africa best Intelligence services (NIS), CID (has gone down), and very professional lean army. The warlords from opposite end will be meeting in Nairobi, having coffee, their kids going to the same school, and they will be sending arms to fight wars in their country. They dare not come to Kenya and fight.

As for Ethiopian refugees...the very corrupt kenya police will swindle them - they will prefer to go to South Africa - most Ethiopia or Somalia just passes Kenya to South Africa.

Unlike other countries - kenyan carry national ID and also immunization mark - fluency in kiswahili - so a foreigner just stick out - you dont have ID, cant speak swahili, dont have immunization mark on right part of the hand, the police will eat the last peny, send your to jail - so Ethiopia just get trafficked in lorries down to South Africa.

Fyi, Nairobi SPECIFICALLY Eastleigh is the Global HQ of ALL Somali clans. That's where the Marehans, Hawiyes, Ogadenis, Majerteins etc, etc decide their collective future, be they in Minnesota, Holland or Wood Green London.

Business bay mall. Eastleigh.
70% done.

Uphill l pediatric hospital.
Progress.

obaaderemi:
Shma, herein lies your answer.
It's going to be a regional catastrophe if Ethiopia continues the slide down to anarchy.

Kenya will be the biggest loser after Ethiopia.
But I really pity the Ethiopians, decades of hard work and progress flushed down the toilet.

Ethiopia will fall? yes. You're absolutely spot on. The anarchism will bury Ethiopia for good. If the Ethiopian government doesn't stand its ground, it will be torn down to war graves.

Ethiopia's fall will affect Kenya? Yes. Kenya will be positively affected by the ethio war. We'll gain a more competitive advantage especially from regional airlines - one of them being bole - the biggest KQ challenger. If ethio is Affected, Some key economic fields in Kenya will gain momentum, hence, economic boom!

kikuyu1:
I told you! Unlike us where we're reminded of post Uhuru issues every election season these guys have genuinely authentic historical grievances from over a century old to even 500 yr old grudges!?


https://ayyaantuu.org/habesha-used-to-remove-the-breasts-arms-legs-of-the-oromo-people-during-menelik-conquests/



Btw,some Ethiopian Borana hotties themselves told me this story around 07. As for Habesha anti Somali feeling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Somalia/comments/52iq9k/why_do_you_guys_hate_ethiopians/



https://ethiopianhistory.com/Imam_Ahmad_ibn_Ibrahim_al_Ghazi/

500 yrs,15 generations later the Habesha rmbr this ishyt like it was last Thursday!?

Damn, that's really fvcked up. I don't see these groups reconciling any time soon and as long as the Tigrays are not on top of the political spectrum this war will never end.

NTSA:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202110180235.html
How the Nigerian military paid cash to buy back an anti-aircraft gun that posed a threat to President Muhammadu Buhari, who flew through the endangered airspace to his hometown, some 80 miles away. Kidnapping gangs had seized the anti-aircraft gun during a clash with a military unit.

the story came out false. Anti aircraft guns can't bring down a jet 80miles away,not even 10 miles.
And then the President has visited MAIDUGURI on many occasions yet bokoharam posed 0 threats, how will cattle rustlers be a threat.
Most of those stories are just to entertain people like you,

Nigerian military is above your league

kikuyu1:
Look at these operational pix. The first was when the Som op kicked off. the 2nd series are the NA convoys. A mission critical bit of kit is missing among the Naijjans. Hint:comms. Also the NA vehicles are civvy with camo.

The "shocking" state of the Nigerian army has delayed plans for a military intervention in Mali, amid reports that it lacks the capability to fight on the frontline.


10 yrs ago.


[url]https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed/url]
Nothing has changed in a decade!? comparison.

you mean Kenya soldiers on foreign mission.
You need comms for foreign missions not internal skirmish that you can easily identify your enemies.
I would be surprised if your coming convoys went on foreign mission without basic stuffs like military Comms.

Then talk of Mali mission, France no ever wanted to have the Nigerian military involved in Mali, reason they massively supported the chadians.
But again we proved our strength in Gambia, with our fighter jets in the sky, naval vessels on water and SF units on ground. It was a successful mission.

Now, tell me, can Kenya do that without asking UNs support.

Damnn.. A Kenyan calling NA a militia. I laugh in Chinese. If Nigerian army is a militia then KDF is nothing but an armed boy scouts.
I don't blame una Sha, if not for our stupid leaders.

Shma:
Ethiopia will fall? yes. You're absolutely spot on. The anarchism will bury Ethiopia for good. If the Ethiopian government doesn't stand its ground, it will be torn down to war graves.

Ethiopia's fall will affect Kenya? Yes. Kenya will be positively affected by the ethio war. We'll gain a more competitive advantage especially from regional airlines - one of them being bole - the biggest KQ challenger. If ethio is Affected, Some key economic fields in Kenya will gain momentum, hence, economic boom!

Ethiopia is not going to fall..
This problem started just after the Eritrean peace deal and it's being fuel by the US to get some kind of concession from Ethiopia.

All this prayer that you are praying for Ethiopia to fall will not happen in your life time

Just30:
Ethiopia is not going to fall..
This problem started just after the Eritrean peace deal and it's being fuel by the US to get some kind of concession from Ethiopia.

All this prayer that you are praying for Ethiopia to fall will not happen in your life time

Wrong.
A power struggle, an election and a push for political reform are among several factors that led to the crisis. - Eritrea joined in just in favour of tigray which is also part of Eritrea ethnicity. And yes, Ethiopia will fall if their government will not stand firm.

"""""The conflict started on 4 November, when Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed ordered a military offensive against regional forces in Tigray.

He said he did so in response to an attack on a military base housing government troops there.

The escalation came after months of feuding between Mr Abiy's government and leaders of Tigray's dominant political party.

For almost three decades, the party was at the centre of power, before it was sidelined by Mr Abiy, who took office in 2018 after anti-government protests"""""".

Mr Abiy pursued reforms, but when Tigray resisted, the political crisis erupted into war.

Read.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54964378

Shma:
Wrong.
A power struggle, an election and a push for political reform are among several factors that led to the crisis. - Eritrea joined in just in favour of tigray which is also part of Eritrea ethnicity. And yes, Ethiopia will fall if their government will not stand firm.

"""""The conflict started on 4 November, when Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed ordered a military offensive against regional forces in Tigray.

He said he did so in response to an attack on a military base housing government troops there.

The escalation came after months of feuding between Mr Abiy's government and leaders of Tigray's dominant political party.

For almost three decades, the party was at the centre of power, before it was sidelined by Mr Abiy, who took office in 2018 after anti-government protests"""""".

Mr Abiy pursued reforms, but when Tigray resisted, the political crisis erupted into war.

Read.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54964378

I'm telling you that the crisis arose out of that peace deal .... You think Tigray just got up and decided to attack govt forces ..