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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 8:40am On Nov 12, 2021
Most militaries in Africa invest in peer-to-peer conflict type of training (3rd generation warfare).That's why they perform poorly against homegrown insurgencies (4th generation warfare). Having a huge stockpile of weapons doesn't necessarily translate to battlefield success.
Look at what is happening in Ethiopia .ENDF, built on heavy firepower and artillery, proved no march to TDF whose infantry is non-motorized, low-tech, light-footed, decentralized but accustomed to grueling long marches.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:42am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Which city do you boast of?
Lagos
Abuja.

Two cities better than anything in ur zoo cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 8:43am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Nairobi expressway - beatification of the median and underpass - underway
cool cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by IGpro1(m): 8:44am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Yes I was absolutely correct in my intuition. Before the Russian left Nigeria - the incompetent militia had crashed mi-35. I am pretty sure by now they dont have any functioning one. YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH SOFTWARE ASPECT OF MILITARY BEFORE YOU WASTE MONEY ON EXPENSIVE HARDWARE.

2019 Jan
Five crew killed in Nigeria Mi-35 helicopter crash near Damasak as ISIS claims Yobe state attacks
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2019/01/03/nigeria-air-force-helicopter-crash-damasak-isis-claims-yobe-state-attacks/

2018 march - yet another crashed
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/23999/Mi_35M_Combat_Helicopter_Crashes_in_Nigeria__Five_Killed

2018 june - yet another mi-35 crashed
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/nigerian-airforce-attack-helicopter-crashes-north-east/

2014 - yet another crash
https://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newstwo-killed-in-nigerian-air-forces-mi-35-hind-helicopter-crash-4323164/

The Militia

Meanwhile, NAF officers have stated that six Mi-35Ms had been ordered without mentioning any Mi-17s. The first two Mi-35Ms were inducted in April 2017, with a second pair following a year later.

One of the new helicopters subsequently crashed on 2 January 2019. That followed the crash of a Mi-17 on 8 January 2018. The NAF denied the aircraft was shot down as claimed by the militant group known as Boko Haram.
majority of those were refitted and are back in action,
Do you know what is called air sorties, the attrition rate is minimal compared to even developed countries, those helis and aircrafts fly almost everyday and for hours, how do you expect them not to develop fault. Us crashed their f35 on many occasions.
The good thing is that all were either refitted or replaced.
How would you know what sorties and attrition rate means, when Kenyan airforce barely flies,
No single airforce in Africa flies the number of sorties flown by naf in a day. They carry out air raids in Niger, Chad and Cameroon.

Do you have an airforce.

Reminds me of those Kenyans that kept pushing the fake news of them having MI-28 grin grin . Took years before some could accept the reality, while others like you still believe you have them in secret locations. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:45am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Until Nigeria Militia embrace professionalism, discipline and their army think about the welfare of it's soldiers ( good salaries, good health care in medical insurance, life insurances, care of veterans, their education, their kids education)- no amount of weapons will make them secure Nigerias. It's just throwing money down the pit. The weapons are likely to end up in Boko Haram. Boko haram and other jihadist will send a million nigerians annually to IDP camps and thousands will continue to be killed. Nigeria will continue to be as bad as any war zone ( It was no 2 after afgan - but with Taliban taking over - it now is going to be the world worst war zone in terms of causalities - yet it's at peace)

This is why Nigeria or Ethiopia militia CAN NEVER BE COMPARED TO KDF - one of Africa most professional armed forces.

KDF pride itself in it's professionalism as modern force. Nigeria rag tag militia doesnt even know what it mean to be an soldier. For them it mean beating up people on the streets. And come the action day with even cattle rustlers...they cowardly abandon their weapons, their barracks and run back to their mommies.

700 bed referral hospital for soldiers under construction - last pic
Lol all this noise and insecurity because Kenya failed the ammunition picture test. grin grin Just convert this energy into funding ur military properly and acquiring ammo so u can become relevant else you are just a jealous bitter kid at the corner throwing tantrums.
Lol all this write up would have been avoided with just one pics. But the irrelevance of ur militia made you go through all this point to prove a point.smh!!!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:46am On Nov 12, 2021
obaaderemi:
Nigeria Air force Super Tucanos....
We've got 12 of these super birds wink
Lol what Kenyans are so scared to do.
See them fretting because just pics contest.Again they’ve failed the picture test just like they always do in the city picture test.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:47am On Nov 12, 2021
obaaderemi:
Kdf is indeed very disciplined... grin
Lol this is funny as shiit grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:48am On Nov 12, 2021
You can only impress Ghanians and West Africans with your sprawling slumpolis. Otherwise East Africa cities are almost all better than anything in Nigeria. Adis is miles ahead. Nairobi is competing with Joburg. Dars is better than even Lagos smiley. Kampala looks way better.

Something is wrong with West Africa.

Vlain:
Lagos
Abuja.

Two cities better than anything in ur zoo cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:49am On Nov 12, 2021
obaaderemi:
Mi 35 attack helicopters....

Nigeria now has Africa's largest fleet of attack helicopters.... grin
How can you compare these to Kenya's rust buckets?
Lol comparing is a waste time. Expect more ret@rded epistle to mask their irrelevance. Kenya is a small fry,they should come their militia to our police. That’s how you set the levels straight not dumbing down to their level to argue the obvious.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:50am On Nov 12, 2021
Puerile infantile silly childish rant
Vlain:
Lol all this noise and insecurity because Kenya failed the ammunition picture test. grin grin Just convert this energy into funding ur military properly and acquiring ammo so u can become relevant else you are just a jealous bitter kid at the corner throwing tantrums.
Lol all this write up would have been avoided with just one pics. But the irrelevance of ur militia made you go through all this point to prove a point.smh!!!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:51am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
You can only impress Ghanians and West Africans with your sprawling slumpolis. Otherwise East Africa cities are almost all better than anything in Nigeria. Adis is miles ahead. Nairobi is competing with Joburg. Dars is better than even Lagos smiley. Kampala looks way better.

Something is wrong with West Africa.
We’ve been down this road before. Do I have to pull current videos every now and then to prove my point. Just take a drive this morning round Nairobi and tell me why you shouldn’t be disappointed .And pls don’t even get h me e started on Mombasa,that’s a hopeless basket case. Just nuke it already.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:53am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Puerile infantile silly childish rant
No puerile rant was what you wrote back there. Face facts or get ur pictures.A loser always resort to aimless worthless story to sell his desperate narrative.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by IGpro1(m): 8:53am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
A country like Kenya that spend 3B dollars like Kenya as security budget annually - compared with Nigeria that spend 2B dollars cannot indeed be compared. A country that is unable to deal with home grown terror cannot be compared with world top 10 country that is promoting international peace and security. One country generates 1 million IDPS annually and has daily attacks. The other is largely peaceful.

A country whose oil pipeline along the coast are vandalized cannot talk about navy and ship industry. If you had some security - your oil industry would have grown, your minning industry would be as big as south africa, and you won't be world poverty capital.

Those are SALIENT comparison - not theoretical nonsense.

Start by spending at least 10B dollars annually in security - professionalize your security sector - and you can start comparing yourself with Kenya.
oh, so Kenya defence budget is now 3billion. Between yesterday to and today Kenyan budget increased by 200%.

You're a joker.
Now do a detailed study on function and variant of those equipments.

Then compare naval vessels and
Lastly the army.
I'm now really done with you, Mr comic relief. grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:55am On Nov 12, 2021
obaaderemi:
These ones are called Short Tucanos, just for training.. grin
Nigeria got 12 Super Tucanos. grin

Little India failing the picture test here... wink
Exactly!!!. A picture says more than a thousand words.they’ve made aimless epistle a substitute for picture contest.now tgats how you know they’ve been defeated.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:56am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Not that it matters. You recently bought 12 - you got six delivered. The most important aspect is whether you will have the requisite skills to fly,maintain and use it against Boko Haram intelligently. That is where you always fail. This is where Kenya excel. Tooling without requisite human skill is waste of time.

Most militias like Nigeria buy equipment they are unable to fly or even do basic maintenance - few months later they are in some graveyard.
Get urself done ammo already little India. You sound so bitter.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 8:57am On Nov 12, 2021
Impressing Ghanaians is far better than Kenya trying to impress Somalians with stick only by showing up with a stick.

At least they know that they are impressing a peer who is also well-armed and professional.



You can type this nonsense when East Africa is able to surpass West Africa at development.
You can't be having villages and try to compare with superior societies.
Mkenya2019:
You can only impress Ghanians and West Africans with your sprawling slumpolis. Otherwise East Africa cities are almost all better than anything in Nigeria. Adis is miles ahead. Nairobi is competing with Joburg. Dars is better than even Lagos smiley. Kampala looks way better.

Something is wrong with West Africa.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:57am On Nov 12, 2021
NTSA:
Exactly .
Story.
Just get urself so ammo and save urself the draining energy you take to convince us otherwise. Trust me it’s a lot convenient arguing that way grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:58am On Nov 12, 2021
Read again. Kenya security budget is 3B.

We spend 1.2B in defence - this modern force of 25,000 - that is well paid, well trained, well equiped and very proffesional. We do not need 360,000 militia like Nigeria or a million militia like Ethiopia that is underpaid, under-trained, ill equiped, poorly motivated and indiscipline.

We spend 400M dollars in Intelligence force of about 1,000 officers. This is also arguably one of Africa best intelligence services - that doesnt get entangled in action but provide actionable intelligence for police.

We spend the remainder in police - including paramilitary police that can waste Nigeria and regional army. That about 1.5B dollars. This for police force about 50,000

Kenya police - paramilitary wing police wing - complete with armoured personnel carrier, some helicopters to deal with cattle rustlers and internal terror

We rarely ever deploy KDF on internal matters. KDF for most of time has been used to provide international peace and security - all over Africa, Asia and Europe.

In short our police force are enough to waste Nigeria or Uganda or Tanzania army.

This our police force - para-military that deal with cattle rustlers and boko haram type - and leave KDF frying big fish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-hXqJe_bY&t=513s

IGpro1:
oh, so Kenya defence budget is now 3billion. Between yesterday to and today Kenyan budget increased by 200%.

You're a joker.
Now do a detailed study on function and variant of those equipments.

Then compare naval vessels and
Lastly the army.
I'm now really done with you, Mr comic relief. grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 8:58am On Nov 12, 2021
Too many childish posts above not worth a reply. I will wait for the Ghanaian trolls instead.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 8:59am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
In fact from wikipedia Nigeria Airforce is big joke. I dont see attack helicopters that would be very effective to deal with Boko haram and other Islamic jihadist.


Aircraft Origin Type Variant In service Notes
Combat Aircraft
Aermacchi M-346 Master Italy light attack M-346FA 24 on order[10][11][12]
Alpha Jet France / Germany[13] light attack 11[14][15]
Chengdu F-7 China fighter F-7 NI[16] 8[17] licensed version of the MiG-21[18]
EMB 314 Super Tucano Brazil COIN / attack 12
JF-17 Thunder China / Pakistan multirole 3[19][20]
Maritime Patrol
ATR 42 France maritime patrol 2[14]
Reconnaissance
Super King Air United States SIGINT 3[14]
Transport
Boeing 737 United States VIP 1[21]
Super King Air United States utility transport 350 1[14]
Aeritalia G.222 Italy cargo / transport 1[14]
Dornier Do 28 Germany utility 128 11[14] STOL capable aircraft
Dornier Do 228 Germany transport 5[14] STOL capable aircraft
C-130 Hercules United States transport C-130H 3[14]
Helicopters
Bell 412 United States utility 412EP 2[17][22] aircraft were impounded by Nigerian Customs in 2016[23]
Mil Mi-17 Russia utility Mi-17/171 5 6 on order[17]
Mil Mi-24 Russia attack Mi-24/35 15 18 on order[14]
Eurocopter AS332 France utility / transport 5[14]
AgustaWestland AW101 Italy / United Kingdom VIP transport 4[24]
AgustaWestland AW139 Italy / United Kingdom VIP transport 1[14]
AgustaWestland AW109 Italy / United Kingdom utility / trainer 16 12 used for rotor-craft training[14]
Trainer Aircraft
Aero L-39 Czech Republic jet trainer 8[14]
Mil Mi-34 Russia rotor-craft trainer 1[14]
Chengdu J-7 People's Republic of China jet trainer FT-7 1[14]
Aermacchi MB-339 Italy jet trainer 6[14]
PAC Super Mushshak Pakistan basic trainer 10[14]

Compare to Kenya

Aircraft Origin Type Variant In service Notes
Combat Aircraft
Northrop F-5 United States fighter F-5E 17[12]
Light attack
Cessna 208 United States light attack 3[13][14] modified Icarus-X fitted with four hardpoints for seven tube Thales FZ275 laser guided rockets
Transport
Harbin Y-12 China transport 10[12]
C-27J Spartan Italy transport 3[12]
C-145A Skytruck United States special operations 3[15]
Cessna 208 United States light utility 4[12] 2 aircraft used for reconnaissance
Bombardier Dash 8 Canada VIP 3[12]
Fokker 70 Netherlands VIP 1[16]
Helicopters
Bell UH-1 United States utility UH-1H 7[12]
Bell AH-1 United States attack AH-1F 6[17] donated by Jordan[18]
Mil Mi-17 Russia utility / transport Mi-171 2[12]
Harbin Z-9 China utility 6[12]
SA 330 Puma France utility / transport 13[12]
MD 500 Defender United States light attack 530F 45[12]
Eurocopter AS350 France COIN / utility 9[12]
AgustaWestland AW139 Italy SAR / utility 3[12]
Trainer Aircraft
Northrop F-5 United States conversion trainer F-5F 6[12]
Short Tucano United Kingdom trainer Tucano 51 12[12] licence-built variant of the EMB-312
Grob G 120 Germany trainer 120A 5[12]
Story!!! Get ur self some ammo so u can be relevant. All this energy doesn’t make you relevant.it’s literally doesn’t change the fvcking obvious. I blame those stooping to ur level to argue this obvious fact.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 9:00am On Nov 12, 2021
gallivant:
Too many childish posts above not worth a reply. I will wait for the Ghanaian trolls instead.
E pain am.
My cold facts slaps hard. Not unnecessary argument.just harsh brutal facts in pics.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:00am On Nov 12, 2021
Just30:
Impressing Ghanaians is far better than Kenya trying to impress Somalians with stick only by showing up with a stick.

At least they know that they are impressing a peer who is also well-armed and professional
That didn't take long. Ghana's tiny army can't even defend against Chinese illegal miners. The only professional army in West Africa is the French. A travesty.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:01am On Nov 12, 2021
Vlain:
E pain am.
My cold facts slaps hard. Not unnecessary argument.just harsh brutal facts in pics.
Sammy, lay off the drugs.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:04am On Nov 12, 2021
gallivant:
That didn't take long. Ghana's tiny army can't even defend against Chinese illegal miners. The only professional army in West Africa is the French. A travesty.
why would we need Ghana army in civilian matters?

Ghana is not Kenya where your unprofessional military patrol the street daily with sticks grin grin grin Only backward societies do that.

Kenya tiny military couldn't even defend kenya from guys running around with aks and hunting guns ..... you guys were busy running away while they chase them in their own base.
It had to take the Americans to put an end to the misery you call a military.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 9:04am On Nov 12, 2021
IGpro1:
but you know both militaries shouldn't be compared at all, it's a waste of time.
A country building warships, drones, aircraft parts, missiles, rifles, rocket pods, Apcs with upto 5 defence companies, to say the least,
Retooling massively shouldn't be compared to a country that lacks equipment, war experience, almost zero defence industry.
Compare
Equipments
Man power
Economy
Political influence
Defence industry
Ship yards
MRO
In house aircraft maintenance
Experience
Kenya falls short,
The gap is so wide.
Chill bro, not everything is up for a debate.
I reiterate again arguing this is a waste of time. Deep down they no the truth.forget this online persona they’ve long accepted the wretchedness and irrelevance the of their boy’s scout grin grin it’s just they have this penchant to argue the obvious.once you are ahead of them they look for loopholes to argue and stay relevant just like that mall saga. But the truth will always stand no matter how angry it’s make you feel.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:05am On Nov 12, 2021
Vlain:
Exactly!!!. A picture says more than a thousand words.they’ve made aimless epistle a substitute for picture contest.now tgats how you know they’ve been defeated.
Kenyans haven't started the picture contest yet and you are here bleating away. So far you have only posted the Tucanos and the ugly MRAP of the Nigerian Militia Force. Not very impressive! sad
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 9:05am On Nov 12, 2021
gallivant:
Sammy, lay off the drugs.
Wrong nigga.
Go locate Sammy and tell him this
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 9:06am On Nov 12, 2021
Mkenya2019:
A country like Kenya that spend 3B dollars like Kenya as security budget annually - compared with Nigeria that spend 2B dollars cannot indeed be compared. A country that is unable to deal with home grown terror cannot be compared with world top 10 country that is promoting international peace and security. One country generates 1 million IDPS annually and has daily attacks. The other is largely peaceful.

A country whose oil pipeline along the coast are vandalized cannot talk about navy and ship industry. If you had some security - your oil industry would have grown, your minning industry would be as big as south africa, and you won't be world poverty capital.

Those are SALIENT comparison - not theoretical nonsense.

Start by spending at least 10B dollars annually in security - professionalize your security sector - and you can start comparing yourself with Kenya.
All this noise just to avoid what exactly!!!huhhuh Picture test!!!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:07am On Nov 12, 2021
Just30:
why would we need Ghana army in civilian matters?

Ghana is not Kenya where your unprofessional military patrol the street daily with sticks grin grin grin Only backward societies do that.

Kenya tiny military couldn't even defend kenya from guys running around with aks and hunting guns ..... you guys were busy running away while they chase them in their own base.
It had to take the Americans to put an end to the misery you call a military.
Try to objective Mr. Bonsu. What is Ghana's tiny defence budget? In dollars please spare me the cedi zeros. wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Vlain: 9:07am On Nov 12, 2021
gallivant:
Kenyans haven't started the picture contest yet and you are here bleating away. So far you have only posted the Tucanos and the ugly MRAP of the Nigerian Militia Force. Not very impressive! sad
Post ur best let follow up with our police ammunition.that’s a matching feat feat for ur boy’s brigade grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:08am On Nov 12, 2021
When did you see kenya military on patrol on any street. This is not Ghana that was under military dictatorship from 1960s to recently.

Kenya police - has paramilitary wing - that is why no Chinese will dare come and mine gold illegally in Kenya.

I hear this year alone you've lost 5B dollar worth of gold to chinese - have they have now gone totally underground and smuggled the whole of it.

You can imagine deploying military against chinese miners smiley - what kind of country are you? You still havent built a police force that can deal with internal issues.

Now your corrupt military are protecting chinese to illegally mine and smuggle gold...another DRC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcqO1JwsS-E

Just30:
why would we need Ghana army in civilian matters?

Ghana is not Kenya where your unprofessional military patrol the street daily with sticks grin grin grin Only backward societies do that.

Kenya tiny military couldn't even defend kenya from guys running around with aks and hunting guns ..... you guys were busy running away while they chase them in their own base.
It had to take the Americans to put an end to the misery you call a military.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Biafrarep(m): 9:08am On Nov 12, 2021
SUFFERInSMILIIN:
grin
What's your aims and objectives in posting this crap here? To wash your dirty linen in public? SMH!

I'm a Biafran and don't believe in Nigeria, but I won't mock the country before these East African savages.
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