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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:31pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime: 3 man defence was/still used as a makeshift and he spent 90m for a striker when we had giroud..Abraham..Bathsuayi.. Why didn't he chose his prefered formation and sell joginho who happened to be the reason he is being forced to play this community formation.... 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:32pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Segedinho: Gilmour is a young player who needs minutes for his development. Who do you know hate Bakayoko the most on this thread before we signed him and bet money on him flopping. If you talk, talk with sense, not throwing mud everywhere to whom it may concern. TT spent his budget on Lukaku knowing he can take more risk not fixing the DM because of the community defence. Despite how useless Saul is, we are yet to lose with him on the pitch thanks to that community defence. That's called risk management. Also unlike Jogginhoe who nobody will sign, Chelsea was able to pick up money for Abraham and Giroud. One in, one out. Chelsea already have Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Barkley, RLC, Jorginho they can't sell in that midfield. In your business, will you keep buying the same item of stock without selling some? 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 8:33pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
BlueMann: Nothing hot hot. Just unnecessary wailing that will lead to nothing thereafter. After all these, jorginho has already made his name in football. The rest na shalaye. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:37pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime: I know James is a very old player that can't learn anything or needed the mins just like Gilmour I brought in bakayoko cos u chose strength over IQ in that role..he would have been tried maybe just once just like havetz was used in d striking role. How can you go for a striker when you have 3 strikers but ignore d DM position when u have an incompetent snail.....? Yet out of the aforementioned DMs..joginho with no market value is still playing till date to the extent of being injected for a crucial game. U go for what you lack. .....After winning d UCL with a "joginho forced formation"..u discard him one time. Nobody wants joginho..drink water ..bakayoko...Barkley.....yet the rest are exiled but this disgusting snail is still heart of the midfield....being injected to play... 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theuniverse: 8:37pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
I didn't expect us to win league this season, just compete well, and go all guns blazing defending our champions league trophy. after all ferguson, guardiola,klopp didn't win in their first seasons. but if by next season idiots like jorginho are still first team, and gilmour Gallagher not integrated, 343 not abandoned for high pressing 433. tuchel should be immediately sacked!!!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theuniverse: 8:38pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
I didn't expect us to win league this season, just compete well, and go all guns blazing defending our champions league trophy. after all ferguson, guardiola,klopp didn't win in their first seasons. but if by next season idiots like jorginho are still first team, and gilmour, Gallagher not integrated, 343 not abandoned for high pressing 433. tuchel should be immediately sacked!!!!!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:42pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Segedinho: Don't mention me with Bakayoko please. I will repeat. The DM is being managed by community defence but you can't manage a striker not scoring. Unlike Jogginhoe who nobody will sign, Chelsea was able to pick up money for Abraham and Giroud. One in, one out, that's how Chelsea do business. Chelsea already have Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Barkley, RLC, Jorginho they can't sell in that midfield. In your business, will you keep buying the same item of stock without selling some? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:51pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime:If u have same stock and they giving u sleepless night you discard them all.. What is the essence of keeping a spoiled egg If the DM will relegate you or force u to play what you can't comprehend ..u discard them one time instead ,otherwise Gilmour bakayoko n Barkley will still be playing just like him. We had everything in the attacking department... We we got ziyech and havetz anyway. We had bakayoko..Barkley ..drinkwater ..joginho even Gilmour.. They were chased to accommodate the worst of them in joginho. Saul has arrived..we still on the same story Kovacic and Kante are there but miraculously one have to sit for the snail.. So TT is quite stupid to stick with "joginho forced" formation instead. Either TT is a fool or joginho is using juju 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:55pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Segedinho: Fred and McTominay must also be using juju at Man United. Being unsellable does not make you important. If a club has overspent and have too much stock in one department, they often have to make the best of what they have If Jorginho was wanted, he will have been offered new contract since 2017, not being made available for transfer with no buyers. Being unsellable does not make you important. He is simply the best of a bad bunch of midfield stock we have. 5 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 8:58pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Gallagher never get goals pass Havertz like this? Damn! Such a lad. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 8:59pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
It’s official: The NFF has fired Gernot Rohr, and has appointed Austin Eguavoen as Temporary Technical Adviser. What do you guys think? Right move or wrong move? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:00pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
PDPGuy: Wrong move 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:02pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
PDPGuy: Same Eguavoen that knocked us out of World Cup 2006 against Angola and lost the decisive match against Guinea that knocked us out of AFCON 2012 qualifiers which was blamed on SiaSia who was simply picking up a group that Eguavoen had already put us on the back foot. LEEEMAAAAO 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 9:03pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime: Why was Emerson sent out We had Emerson and Alonso..we bought chiwell anyway. Fred and Mctominay are still there cos they are important to man u as well.... Pogba..VDB are still being benched.. U discard what you don't want even if no one wants to buy... Gilmour would have been used instead....... Here ..Kante was put for sale as well 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:06pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:kova and Kante partnership struggles a lot.. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theuniverse: 9:06pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime:my dear ibime has Chelsea put jorginho up for sale before and nobody came, there are many ways to sell players, one way if the wages are the problem is to pay half and the other team pay half. when a club is serious to shift dead weight there's always a way. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 9:09pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Theuniverse:Ask am wetin happen here 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:11pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
User09:currently first choice mildfield is Jorginho-other mildfielders.. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:11pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Segedinho: We already had 3 leftbacks before Emerson was sent out. Emerson is sent out with hopes of a transfer materialising. We could not even get loans for RLC, Barkley and had to accept a last minute lowbid for Ampadu loan, you want to carry another big expenditure and salary on a midfielder when there are other fires to fight in the no9 position. Simple, Saul was the most financially sensible option. We did not estimate how far he has fallen, simple. Fred and McTominay are not important to anyone. They are a smell that refused to go away. If Manure receive even £25m bid for either, they are gone. That's half of what they paid for Fred. They are just hamstrung by blowing big money on VDB, Pogba and Matic. In the days before FFP regulations, SAF would have sent Fred and McTominay packing for cheap like he did Veron while Roman would have torn up Jorginho contract years ago or sold him for pennies like he did to Mutu, Crespo, Shevchenko, Scott Parker, Veron etc. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AnfieldFan: 9:16pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
donjazet: We've conceded 12 goals in the league while Chelsea have conceded 11.. Liverpool have 9 clean sheets in the league this season as opposed to Chelsea's 7 so maybe our defense isn't so bad... 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:18pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime:pure jokes.. rlc sit? Some one who doesn’t even understand his position in a 2 man mildfield sit for a drifter like kante, who is best at running around the mildfield making tackles. This reeks of pure hate for Jorginho. Any mildfield two of kante and rlc has already failed before the line up is released 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:19pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime: The argument is redundant man, how will you say they had all the time in the world, while in fact they got pressed but they evade every pressure,because they were intelligent enough to know what to do with the ball and also had the individual skill set to maraud this pressure? How will you say they got exposed from 2013 when it was a period of mishap of management or say xabi Alonso got exposed when he dominated every opponent that came up against him? A DM will never be all round but the first point of any DM should be his ability to use the ball properly, nobody would have rated xabi, xavi, pirlo, busquet,carrick if they were only good in tackling rather than make good use of the ball. You can't go all about pointing every defeat these guys have suffered to them being expressway when we all know that teams can concede goals without having a lose midfield. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:19pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Theuniverse: Shifting dead weight during FFP times is difficult. Chelsea try not to make loss on a player, highest they will loan him indefinitely until the various loan fees pay off the transfer value like they are doing for Bakayoko and Batsuayi. That's why they signed new contract with Bakayoko and Batsuayi before their last loans because they need to recoup their expenditure for FFP purposes. Jorginho and Kepa are in a different boat. You can't recoup Jorginho expenditure with loans due to his age and amount spent while Kepa amount will never be repaid from loans so you have to either find mugu or get some utility out of him. You may not understand some transfer decisions until you understand some principles of amortisation. Kante was made available for £90m because that's a maga money that will yield £84m profit. Kantes carrying value was £6m as at 2020. Jorginhos carrying value as at 2020 was £25m and Chelsea would accept that amount without declaring a loss on FFP, but nobody would pay that for Jorginho. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 9:20pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Ibime:We recalled ECK from Fulham. Barkley was wanted by Burnley. So why wasn't joginho sent out hoping for transfer to materialise. Why was Gilmour sent instead... Saul was a makeshift..were is he 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:21pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: What of champions league and other competition? My guy, both this season and last season, you guys defense has been absolutely terrible. No be una Aston villa wire 7 goals abi na 8. Meanwhile half of Chelsea goals this season has come in the last 4 games, so one could say it's an anomaly. Don't compare my defense to yours. Throughout the year we've been better. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:23pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Segedinho: Baba are you sure say you no carry Jorginho name go meet baba for Benin |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:25pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
popizaino: It is a fact that we started seeing fantastic scorelines with these guys anchoring DM from 2013 onward. They would still keep 70% possession but lose 3-0, 4-0. That's because unlike before where likes of Chelsea and Manure will sit back and only hope to make 4 or 5 attacks per game, the high pressers of 2013 era onward will be on their neck 24/7. They will still evade the insane pressing 90% of the time, but it will only take the press to be successful 5 or 6 times to see a 3-0 or 4-0 scoreline. Xavi was kind of lucky to escape this era but be honest with yourself, when Chelsea and Manure was main opposition for these guys, match ends 1-0 or 2-0. When the Germans and Real Madrid start getting involved in high press from 2013, that's when we started seeing 3-0, 4-0, 8-1 etc every. These guys have been getting hammered ever since. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 9:26pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
raumdeuter:I tire o.. Them call TT master tactician and them say joginho dey force am playing community defence wen no give any cup. He spent 90m for lukaku but no think abt discarding d person wey dey spoil him no 1 formation.. No be juju bdat |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:27pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
PDPGuy: Excellent our eyes go clear soon 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:31pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Segedinho: If someone would have paid Jorginho loan fee that covers 1 year amortisation and full salary in 2020 with an agreement to sign, Jorginho would have gone, simple. Why will Chelsea loan Barkley for part wages and no loan fee. Barkley yearly cost to Chelsea is £3m (yearly apportionment of his transfer fee) plus his full wages. Anything below that is declaring a loss in the books on Barkley. We received £5m loan fee from Villa plus full wages last year. Barkley has not reached the level of uselessness of Drinkwater that we start accepting yearly loss on him. Stick to the one you know. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:33pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:when you mark out jorginho, you mark out the team. He is the fulcrum on which the team runs.. That’s show’s he’s unending importance 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 9:36pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
Segedinho: I take God beg you, come carry the Gbanjo night market comot from my Milan. Na so so rubbish him don dey dish us since him join us. Baba has not even finished 90 minutes for us. 1 Like 1 Share |
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