Theuniverse:
my guy, tuchel is a great coach, no doubt but all coaches make their mistakes and have biases, sometimes to the detriment of the team. because of slow jorginho, tuchel is still playing him in this 343 counter game to cover his deficiences, even after teams have known our gameplan. tuchel wont shift to a more agressive high pressing formation, because he still wants to play lazy jorginho as 4. so he knows jorginho will be exposed brutally in any high press, so this management formation, where either kante or anybody will be covering and protecting his errors. abeg go online read chelsea blogs, listen to pundits, they are all saying the same thing chelsea needs to change tactics from this 343 nonsense to a 433 any other high press formation to create more chances, more numbers in the box ,more agression, more firepower on the pitch, crushing and destroying opponents ruthlessly, consistently. 343 is good for cups, epl is a marathon and only the ruthless and most efficient win, city and liverpool are levels ahead and chelsea can never win epl with this 343 jorginho nonsense.

Hahahaha... Is tuchel also coaching the Italy team that just won euros few months ago? Or Mancini is also bias?
Suddenly 343 (that was used to outplay city countless times,madrid,atm,porto and many other big clubs)is nonsense because things are no longer rosy. Chelsea fans sha.

MorataFC:
Do u watch the game? How come he was rated high above all?

Who cares, even as poor ass Norwich is ,they do have their own player of the year. I mean If you gather 11 olodos in a class,one olodo must take first.. No?

afrodoc2:

So we got to Christmas and Messi has scored only 1 league goal.

He once scored 1000 goals in a calendar year. So we are OK with that one.. French league is a small league,he no wan score sir.he dey pity dem

Ebukacute:

Who cares, even as poor ass Norwich is ,they do have their own player of the year. I mean If you gather 11 olodos in a class, *one olodo must take first* .. No?

na so

Ebukacute:

Hahahaha... Is tuchel also coaching the Italy team that just won euros few months ago? Or Mancini is also bias?

Can you win league by parking bus and waiting for penalties? Receive sense. Jogginghoe can never win league in a competitive league. He will soon be 31 with no league title to his name.

Ibime:


Can you win league by parking bus and waiting for penalties? Receive sense. Jogginghoe can never win league in a competitive league. He will soon be 31 with no league title to his name.

Sir you said same thing before we carried champions league. Conte used same formation to win league. Your oga hojgerg haven't achieved quarter of what jorginho has achieved.
I'm not trying to hype jorginho or overrate him but the truth is that y'all hate him for no just reason. E no make sense sir

People dragging messi, we all know that he is an exceptional player, he struggles because that team isn't maximizing his talents

Ibime:


Villa played left-wing throughout. You still need a guy that will be able to slot in when Messi is unavailable, no team goes into a season with one no9 only but better if that person is flexible to play wings as well which Ibra is not

On paper he appears to be on the wing, but on the field he is always in centre, same as Messi.They were mostly given the freedom to roam around in the attack.

airmark:


Popizaino and Raumdeuter, when will your Fraudiola win UCL without Messi?

When Conte ever makes his UCL semi final appearance.

Saul impressed me with yesterday performance more than Jorginho ever did to me in his entire Chelsea career but even at that he should still head back to Atletico Madrid. Don't come and deceive me because January is fast approaching, we give you the chance to stay now and you return back to your default settling.

MorataFC:
u want start again? Messi dis Messi dat no dey tire u? Messi keeps his team afloat, he gives his team dominance that it will be easy for them to penetrate the opponent and thereby goals may be score. Look @ yesterday game Messi neither score nor assist but he was the most rated player on the field, that's what Messi gives to your team, if man of the match will be given yesterday no one will receive it but him.

PSG lost League title last season but now they are untouchable on top of the league, when will your mcm lead his team to top of the league?

They will probably be battling relegation without Messi 1 league goal lol

Capaldi:


Now explain why Psg perform better without Messi than with Messi on the pitch.


PSG in Ligue 1 this season

Without Messi on the pitch

Troyes 2-1 W
Strasbourg 4-2 W
Brest 4-2 W
Reims 2-0 W
Clermont Foot 4-0 W
Lyon 1-0 W
Metz 2-1 W
Montpellier 2-0 W
Angers 2-1 W
Lille 2-0 W
Bordeaux 3-2 W

11 wins from 11.

With Messi on the pitch

Lyon 1-1 D
Rennes 2-0 L
Marseille 0-0 D
Lille 1-0 L
Nantes 3-1 W
St. Etienne 3-1 W
Nice 0-0 D
Lens 1-1 D
Monaco 2-0 W
Lorient 1-1 D

But according to you Messi is the one leading Psg to the top of the table with 1 goal.

I don't even need to check before I know dat everything u wrote there was not true.
PSG vs Lyon ended 2-1 and that game was the talk of the town for Messi because he has not scored a single goal for psg and when the opportunity came to score he gave the pk to Nermar. (the game still fresh like yesterday )
So this one gave u away and I don't need to check others.

Theuniverse:
my guy, tuchel is a great coach, no doubt but all coaches make their mistakes and have biases, sometimes to the detriment of the team. because of slow jorginho, tuchel is still playing him in this 343 counter game to cover his deficiences, even after teams have known our gameplan. tuchel wont shift to a more agressive high pressing formation, because he still wants to play lazy jorginho as 4. so he knows jorginho will be exposed brutally in any high press, so this management formation, where either kante or anybody will be covering and protecting his errors. abeg go online read chelsea blogs, listen to pundits, they are all saying the same thing chelsea needs to change tactics from this 343 nonsense to a 433 any other high press formation to create more chances, more numbers in the box ,more agression, more firepower on the pitch, crushing and destroying opponents ruthlessly, consistently. 343 is good for cups, epl is a marathon and only the ruthless and most efficient win, city and liverpool are levels ahead and chelsea can never win epl with this 343 jorginho nonsense.

you don talk like say if they give you team you can manage..

What’s the need of protecting Jorginho when we have over 4 extra mildfielders..

If Jorginho is not useful. Bench him, field other mildfielder. And play preferred formation if it’s that easy.

I have never seen a player protected both in National team and club football by managers when they can simply discard him..

Okoto meow, we keep hearing this stories day by day on Nairaland

Ibime:


Can you win league by parking bus and waiting for penalties? Receive sense. Jogginghoe can never win league in a competitive league. He will soon be 31 with no league title to his name.

na keke wey conte park abi na Mercedes

MorataFC:
I don't even need to check before I know dat everything u wrote there was not true.
PSG vs Lyon ended 2-1 and that game was the talk of the town for Messi because he has not scored a single goal for psg and when the opportunity come to score he gave the pk to Nermar. (the game still fresh like yesterday )
So this one gave u away and I don't need to check others.

If you can't read properly that's on you not me. It clearly says Messi on the pitch vs Messi not on the pitch to show Psg don't depend on Messi. Messi was substituted at 76mins with Psg drawing 1:1. Icardi came on and scored the winner. Hence you saw there ....with Messi 1:1, Without Messi 1:0. Next time read accordingly.

Ibime:


Can you win league by parking bus and waiting for penalties? Receive sense. Jogginghoe can never win league in a competitive league. He will soon be 31 with no league title to his name.

hmmmmm

Ebukacute:

Sir you said same thing before we carried champions league. Conte used same formation to win league. Your oga hojgerg haven't achieved quarter of what jorginho has achieved.
I'm not trying to hype jorginho or overrate him but the truth is that y'all hate him for no just reason. E no make sense sir

The only similar thing between Conte and Tuchel's formation is they both play 3 at the back, every other thing is different. The style of play is different, the way they press is different, the set-up is different, even the formation is different.

So jorginho is now the problem

Wow !!

He takes the league by storm, they'll say it's because it's a farmers league...

He has scored only one goal, now they say he is finished and can't do well away from his comfort zone and not that the league is not a farmers league as they claim...

I wonder if it was in Barcelona colors that he won the U-20 world cup, Olympics and Copa America...

Who are his competitors?

Ronaldo? I am a Manchester United fan but I know we won't win the EPL and the UCL will be tough for us, we are not even favorites...

Lewandowski? Like the Ligue 1, no player will be awarded the best player award off winning the Buli so, for all of Lewy's brilliance, if Bayern fail to win the UCL, it will be difficult for him...

Man City's contingent? Their star man KDB has been struggling with injuries so, I don't see a player from City winning it...

Salah? If Liverpool win the EPL and do well in the UCL, he stands a strong chance...

Benzema? Like Salah, he also stands a strong chance as Madrid are all but guaranteed the La Liga trophy.

Mbappe? He won't win it off his Ligue 1 exploits but if PSG wins the UCL and he/Messi stars then they'd win it...

Also, next year is a world cup year and it will play a part in who ever emerges the best in the world...

In summary, away from those playing in the EPL and La Liga (Even the league is a mockery of itself with Barcelona and Atletico struggling), any other player in the other leagues will have to win the UCL and do very well in the world cup to stand a chance...

UCL and World cup na them go decide...

Ronaldo fan boys, calm down.

lordfalcao:
you don talk like say if they give you team you can manage..

What’s the need of protecting Jorginho when we have over 4 extra mildfielders..

If Jorginho is not useful. Bench him, field other mildfielder. And play preferred formation if it’s that easy.

I have never seen a player protected both in National team and club football by managers when they can simply discard him..



Okoto meow, we keep hearing this stories day by day on Nairaland

Jorginho has been a starter for 4 different coaches in club and country. It simply means the People that matters know the value of Jorginho. That should be enough.

Extremely certifiable at this point. Will say anything just to ward off praises.

Anyway TT says Lukaku and CHO have tested negative and may feature in the next game

Shukusheka:
The only similar thing between Conte and Tuchel's formation is they both play 3 at the back, every other thing is different. The style of play is different, the way they press is different, the set-up is different, even the formation is different.

E no concern me... Boss said 343 can't win u EPL, conte and I said no. Any other amala turning na your business

popizaino:
Saul impressed me with yesterday performance more than Jorginho ever did to me in his entire Chelsea career but even at that he should still head back to Atletico Madrid. Don't come and deceive me because January is fast approaching, we give you the chance to stay now and you return back to your default settling.

Oga popi Saul's yesterday performance impressed you more than jorginho ever did all his entire Chelsea carrier?
Brethren this is pure hate mehn.... If na havertz10 talk something like this on mount mata, una go dey give am left, right hot hot. Wetin be the difference now sir

Ebukacute:

Sir you said same thing before we carried champions league. Conte used same formation to win league. Your oga hojgerg haven't achieved quarter of what jorginho has achieved.
I'm not trying to hype jorginho or overrate him but the truth is that y'all hate him for no just reason. E no make sense sir

At least Hojberg has 2 league titles to his name

How many points will Italy get from 2nd round against Austria to final if match ended at 90 mins? Someone said parking bus cannot work for league, only cups, you went to bring Italy Euros as counter-argument

Capaldi:

Jorginho has been a starter for 4 different coaches in club and country. It simply means the People that matters know the value of Jorginho. That should be enough.

this is the stories we keep reading all the time here..

Kovacic, rlc, saul, or even recall gilmour callaghar. I believe this players can play make e no spoil for my hand football that Jorginho has been touted with here several times, while adding pace and press resistance as icing on the cake to it. Without us feeling Jorginho absence

Shukusheka:
The only similar thing between Conte and Tuchel's formation is they both play 3 at the back, every other thing is different. The style of play is different, the way they press is different, the set-up is different, even the formation is different.

the style of play of thomas frank, Tomas tuchel , Antonio conte will not be the same.

They all play 3 at the back.

Ibime:


At least Hojberg has 2 league titles to his name

How many points will Italy get from 2nd round against Austria to final if match ended at 90 mins? Someone said parking bus cannot work for league, only cups, you went to bring Italy Euros as counter-argument

Boss see eh..better sapa hold me I no get strenght to go further with you everybody here knows you hate jorginho, I no fit convince you to see anything good about him. He is not even one of my bests, my own be say make una no use hate kill am,he is doing his best for us.

User09:
Extremely certifiable at this point. Will say anything just to ward off praises.

Anyway TT says Lukaku and CHO have tested negative and may feature in the next game

lakaka is back to complicate things even more

Ibime:
Ancelotti about to chop an awoof league title over in farmers league in Spain

In 20 years career at the top, this would only be his 5th league title

2 of the 4 he has won were awoof league titles with Bayern and PSG

Only respectable league titles being Chelsea 09/10 and Milan 03/04

Laliga farmers league ,but man city has won 3 of the past 4 epl

Be deceiving yourself

Your Mcm is struggling to score in Ligue 1 and all of a sudden you realized it's not a farmers league. These are the same people that will write epistles on how difficult Women football is if Messi goes there and doesn't perform. I Rest my case.

Capaldi:

If you can't read properly that's on you not me. It clearly says Messi on the pitch vs Messi not on the pitch to show Psg don't depend on Messi. Messi was substituted at 76mins with Psg drawing 1:1. Icardi came on and scored the winner. Hence you saw there .... with Messi 1:1, Without Messi 1:0. Next time read accordingly.

Are u his advocate?

All I know is Messi played in the game and they won, when Portugal won the euro 2016 was Ronaldo on the the field? Does is make sense to u if I say Portugal won the euro 2016 without Ronaldo in Final?
Abeg all these troll no make sense.