Android22:
Did TT and Romelu not speak before he was signed? R9 was trying to be petty. The interview and commissioning of its release was to get at TT for refusing to start him after he returned from injury. TT signed him.

I believe he thinks he was ready to play 90 mins after injury but TT only held him back for 3 games to build match fitness. Those 3 games were even over the space of a week so you naturally won't flog his body that many times in a week when he's just returning from injury.

If he can loose guard so easily for just being eased back in from injury which all managers do, I wonder what he will say when there is real problem.

airmark:


Matip was stupid stupidly closing in on Kante, leaving his rear for Pulisic to explore. Henderson lost Pulisic, but no, we must blame VVD who also had Havertz run to deal with.

Meanwhile, are you still defending this lie?

Aside airmark, Who else saw Matip doing this today

NinjaXmetahuman:


1 ucl >>>>> 1000 times. period!

Pep has turned the EPL to a farmers league period!

AnfieldFan:


No other Liverpool fan said anything of sorts....You're basically making things up to replace arguments you brought that couldn't hold up...

This is the season we got Virgil, Salah, Robbo and Chamberlain..

See the net spend?

You are showing me market value and at the same time telling me about netspend lol. You should try to be more creative with your argument. Netspend majorly favors a badly run club. No Liverpool fan said what?

Ibime:


I believe he thinks he was ready to play 90 mins after injury but TT only held him back for 3 games to build match fitness. Those 3 games were even over the space of a week so you naturally won't flog his body that many times in a week when he's just returning from injury.

If he can loose guard so easily for just being eased back in from injury which all managers do, I wonder what he will say when there is real problem.

I support TT fully. Just pointing out that they fell out due to what you explained above. I even think Chilwell is in camp Lukaku because he gave a cryptic tweet when Lukaku scored that goal and got that penalty against Aston Villa. Summary is Lukaku knew exactly what he was doing but that is not to say TT did not sign him. He was just the 2nd choice behind Erling.

AnfieldFan:


I've given you the facts...Your refusal to accept them reflects on you not me Sir.....
Those are official police reports, stop Strawmanning...It's getting tiring...

Yah. Official Manchester City figures, Transfermarket or EPL are flimsy but police reports will do the trick because police go to stadiums to count fans?

Android22:
I support TT. Just pointing out that they fell out due to what you explained above. I even think Chilwell is in camp Lukaku because he gave a cryptic tweet when Lukaku scored that goal and got that penalty against Aston Villa.

What did the tweet say?

raumdeuter:


Aside airmark, Who else saw Matip doing this today

Konate

Ibime:


What did the tweet say?

I meant to type Instagram**

Android22:
Yah. Official Manchester City figures, Transfermarket or EPL are flimsy but police reports will do the trick because police go to stadiums to count fans?

Police reports are the most reliable. They are based on the actual number of people that are counted at the turnstiles. The turnstiles count the people going in as they clock through. UK Police don't play with the accuracy of those figures because that's how they allocate resources. They even know how many people in each stand. They don't play with that since Hillsborough tragedy.

popizaino:



This attitude is why we are here .

Where? You can't tell me that we played badly against Liverpool and should have won.
You like Pep and City, then move on to support them. Why 'stress' yourself?

Ibime:


Police reports are the most reliable. They are based on the actual number of people that are counted at the turnstiles. The turnstiles count the people going in as they clock through. UK Police don't play with the accuracy of those figures because that's how they allocate resources. They even know how many people in each stand. They don't play with that since Hillsborough tragedy.

Police reports will match the EPL data and City data. That is why the case the other guy tried to bring up was not the scandal he hoped it was. The data showed that City sold the number of tickets for that game to the number they reported but the number of people who showed up for the game having purchased the tickets was slightly less.

Everyone should stop overreacting.
The club will deal with the Lukaku issue appropriately.

Efi ara ba'le.

Android22:
Police reports will match the EPL data and City data. That is why the case the other guy tried to bring up was not the scandal he hoped it was. The data showed that City sold the number of tickets for that game to the number they reported but the number of people who showed up for the game having purchased the tickets was slightly less.

The guy I believe showed wide disparity between Police numbers and club data. There is often wide disparity between both. Clubs have every reason to inflate matchday attendance as they sell advertising board/ big screen slots/naming rights and the more eyes they claim saw your project, the more advertising revenue they generate.

We cannot even rule out that Sheikh can set up ticketing agency to buy up unsold tickets at the last minute to falsify revenue

Ibime:


The guy I believe showed wide disparity between Police numbers and club statement. There is often wide disparity between both. Clubs have every reason to inflate matchday attendance as they sell advertising board/ big screen slots/naming rights and the more eyes they claim saw your project, the more advertising revenue they generate.

the difference was 15%. City reported 98% but Police reports said 83% showed up.

Android22:
the difference was 15%. City reported 98% but Police reports said 83% showed up.

What is 15% of 55,000 seats. That's over 8,000 people. City is the only club you see such nonsense.

That is a wide disparity. You can't tell me 8,000 people will buy ticket and be indisposed on that day. Yeye dey smell.

raumdeuter:


Pep has turned the EPL to a farmers league period!

Over 1bn spent on players by a single coach on a Ucl semifinalist, in 6yrs can make a huge difference in local competitions. No coach enjoyed such privilege except Fraudiola.

Ibime:


The guy I believe showed wide disparity between Police numbers and club data. There is often wide disparity between both. Clubs have every reason to inflate matchday attendance as they sell advertising board/ big screen slots/naming rights and the more eyes they claim saw your project, the more advertising revenue they generate.

We cannot even rule out that Sheikh can set up ticketing agency to buy up unsold tickets at the last minute to falsify revenue

The highlighted is legit though but it is supporting my overarching point, which is that City is not as dependent on Sheikh money as it used to be from the yesteryears.

Ibime:


What is 15% of 55,000 seats. That's over 8,000 people. City is the only club you see such nonsense.

That is a wide disparity. You can't tell me 8,000 people will buy ticket and be indisposed on that day. Yeye dey smell.

raumdeuter:


Aside airmark, Who else saw Matip doing this today

Even though I support TT on the Lukaku issue, I think we haven't seen the end of it. TT is really intelligent, however, I feel people underestimate how intelligent Lukaku is. I personally think he is more intelligent than TT and it makes me all the way suspicious that Romelu had factored this event in his grand scheme. If that is the case, it makes me suspect that TT's position in Chelsea is not stable and Lukaku released this interview to set that in motion.

Android22:
Even though I support TT on the Lukaku issue, I think we haven't seen the end of it. TT is really intelligent, however, I feel people underestimate how intelligent Lukaku is. I personally think he is more intelligent than TT and it makes me all the way suspicious that Romelu had factored this event in his grand scheme. If that is the case, it makes me suspect that TT's position in Chelsea is not stable and Lukaku released this interview to set that in motion.

The Brute, more intelligent than Tuchel?
Get a grip man.....

Tochex101:

The Brute, more intelligent than Tuchel?
Get a grip man.....

The brute speaks a gazillion languages and generally communicates like a thoughtful, calculated and introspective person. I don't speak to his athleticism or adroitness though.

nateevs:


The problem is that you always demand, expect, and decide results outside of prevailing circumstances. It's like you are not living in the very moment. We have our wing backs off injured, Havertz (not 100% and only in last minute because of Lukaku) and Werner off for extended periods. Kante and Kovacic playing their first full 90mins in forever, and the whole world now focused on Chelsea after our £100m striker detonated a nuclear bomb in the camp.

But let's live under a rock and assume these things are not happening in our life time. Let's just demand more because we are passionate.

Some fans live in fantasy world.

Android22:
The brute speaks a gazillion languages and generally communicates like a thoughtful, calculated and introspective person. I don't speak to his athleticism or adroitness though.

The interview shows he is not intelligent.

Havertz10:
havertz lost the ball only 6 times, mount lost it 17 times

Havertz lost the ball fewer times than anybody on the pitch, see why I suspect that most of you use demeanor to judge him instead of actually following the game

He lost about half or more of those in dangerous areas of the pitch one of such led to a goal.

Android22:
You are showing me market value and at the same time telling me about netspend lol. You should try to be more creative with your argument. Netspend majorly favors a badly run club. No Liverpool fan said what?

You haven't shown me the Liverpool fan ?
I can't spoon feed you, you jumped on other players bought within the period and I just showed you that there were other sales...
I didn't think I needed to explain this to you...

Android22:
Yah. Official Manchester City figures, Transfermarket or EPL are flimsy but police reports will do the trick because police go to stadiums to count fans?

And now you've disregarded official police reports...I can't help you on that....
Apparently, the police are lying while City are telling the truth...

Android22:
Your arguments don't make sense. Manchester City sign players not Guardiola and I don't do Guardiola arguments by the way.

My arguments make perfect sense.... Counter them the best you can factually and logically without Strawmanning...

Android22:
I meant to type Instagram**

that was because fans have been attacking lakaka

Amoto94:

He lost about half or more of those in dangerous areas of the pitch one of such led to a goal.

you are really going to blame him for that goal despite all his work last night, who led the successful press from the front that won the ball back multiple times

popizaino:



Excuses!

Excuses!!

Excuses!!!

The prevailing circumstances is not the worse we have ever been, so come off this excuses. I would rather be Chelsea today than be Liverpool without their inspirational coach. Chelsea had no excuse not to win a team without a first team coach and our recent turmoil should have been source of inspiration rather than excuse not to celebrate a comeback draw. I will not worship mediocrity, I demand better and I know we can get better if the coach look beyond this excuses and maximises the full strength of each players.

Like say football na 1+1 equals to 2. You don’t see that your front men are still young so they make mistake most times. How is it Tuchel’s fault that Pulisic couldn’t score one on one with the goalkeeper. Tuchel tactics worked there because he always instruct his attackers to press from the front.