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Ibime:
If Dias at £65m cost more than the so-called 1st to 3rd choice would have cost, you can assume these clowns are just amusing themselves.

Maybe Ake was the one who was fourth choice, not Diaz, afterall they needed two.

It is only Chelsea that the club will sign a player and the manager will come out in press conference to disavow the signing.

In addition, Nathan Ake's 40M tag was due to his buyout clause. Which is also proving my point.

Android22:
People who are being objective know City's problem. Once they like a player, the selling club always inflates the bill because everyone assumes City have money to spend. It is always one market for City and another for everyone else. Look at Kounde for example, where Sevilla refused to accept City's 65M or so, yet they were very eager to accept 50M or less from Chelsea. That is why City only seem to be successful when they try to buy a player from a club that have a buyout clause in place. It is the reason I always said I hated getting involved in all these player valuation arguments because I know they are largely disingenuous especially when City is involved. From Walker to Rodri to Grealish, All successful City transfers were about paying the buyout clause. Look at Harry Kane as additional evidence. If RM had come for the player, Levy would have sold him easily for maximum of 100M. But with City he even went as far as saying 200M or nothing. Now they have a disgruntled player who will not be willing to break his bones again for the club.

Transfer fee of a player makes no sense to me

There are many things that control transfer fee including contract lenght especially. PSG got Messi and Wijnaldum for free. Bayern got Lewandowski for free, Arsenal got Sol Campbell for free, Madrid got Alaba for free, Madrid got Kroos under value etc

Someone might get a whole Salah for free next summer. So if we are going by transfer fee.

A club that gets Salah for free has not spent anything while a club that spend 60M on Werner is expected to do better since 60 >> 0

Dembele and Coutinho went for 130M each, Ferran Torres went for 60M, Mbappe will move to Madrid for 0. So we will say there has not been any addition to Madrid quality since they didnt spend anything while Barcelona spent 60M on Ferran

Dias was 50million cause otamendi went the other way for 15million. Atleltico and Napoli both rejected close to £80million for both Kouli and Gimenez. Napoli Wanted more and Atletico made it clear Gimenez was not for sale.

Android22:
Diaz did not cost more than Koulibaly or Kounde. Napoli asked for 90M for Koulibaly when City only wanted to pay 70M and Sevilla were saying 70M or so for Kounde when City wanted to do 55M or 60M with add ons. Diaz buy out clause was 65M yes, but City were able to trade Otamendi and 50M for Diaz. So no Diaz was cheaper essentially and ended up proving to be far better than both Koulibaly and Kounde.

There is nothing second choice about Dias. What is likely is that City thought Dias is £65m and thought they could do better financially with Kounde at maybe £40m. When they saw Sevilla asking Dias prices for Kounde, they revert to first choice. Same with Koulibaly, nobody will expect Napoli to quote £90m for a 30 year old, and probably hoping to get him for like £30m. When they saw both players back at Dias price level, they go back to Dias.

Na so market be. If you go to market with a thought of buying ofada rice to save cost and you see Ofada being priced same as Basmati, you kuku buy Basmati.

Kounde was not quoted any £70m in 2020. Sevilla won't ask more than £55m if you really want the player and negotiate in 2020. Meanwhile Koulibaly quote was £72m. Who will pay that for a 30 year old CB. When City saw them being unrealistic, then they might as well buy the real thing.

Whatever the case, everything Man City sign is approved strongly by Pep while at Chelsea, the manager will come and complain that he knows nothing about the signing.

Ibime:
There is nothing second choice about Dias. What is likely is that City thought Dias is £65m and thought they could do better financially with Kounde at £40m. When they saw Sevilla asking Dias prices for Kounde, they revert to first choice. Same with Koulibaly, nobody will expect Napoli to quote £90m for a 30 year old, and probably hoping to get him for like £30m. When they saw both players back at Dias price level, they go back to Dias.

Na so market be. If you go to market with a thought of buying ofada rice and you see Ofada being priced same as Basmati, you kuku buy Basmati.

Kounde was not quoted any £70m in 2020. Sevilla won't ask more than £55m if you really want the player and negotiate. Meanwhile Koulibaly quote was £72m. Who will pay that for a 30 year old CB

Whatever the case, everything Man City sign is approved strongly by Pep while at Chelsea, the manager will come and complain that he knows nothing about the signing.

This guy and fabricating scenarios from his head and passing them off as fact will never stop surprising me lmao. Watch how he will defend this nonsense with vigor. The fact here is city went for koulibaly first as he was their main target then Gimenez before Kounde and lastly settling for Ruben Dias. Whatever shalaye is for your own pocket. Nobody is interested in what you thought happened or didn't happen.

raumdeuter:
Transfer fee of a player makes no sense to me

There are many things that control transfer fee including contract lenght especially. PSG got Messi and Wijnaldum for free. Bayern got Lewandowski for free, Arsenal got Sol Campbell for free, Madrid got Alaba for free, Madrid got Kroos under value etc

Someone might get a whole Salah for free next summer. So if we are going by transfer fee.

A club that gets Salah for free has not spent anything while a club that spend 60M on Werner is expected to do better since 60 >> 0

Dembele and Coutinho went for 130M each, Ferran Torres went for 60M, Mbappe will move to Madrid for 0. So we will say there has not been any addition to Madrid quality since they didnt spend anything while Barcelona spent 60M on Ferran

@timbros.....what do you have to say?

Trevor012:
This guy and fabricating scenarios from his head and passing them off as fact will never stop surprising me lmao. Watch how he will defend this nonsense with vigor. The fact here is city went for koulibaly first as he was their main target then Gimenez before Kounde and lastly settling for Ruben Dias. Whatever shalaye is for your own pocket. Nobody is interested in what you thought happened or didn't happen.

I am showing you how people who make financial decisions think. Someone who collects pocket money from his parents should not question how financial decisions are made. Dias was City's first choice. Financial considerations is what made them look Kounde and Koulibalys way thinking they would be cheaper. When they saw Kounde and Koulibaly being priced like a Dias, they went back to Dias.

A compromise is when Conte ask for £70m for Van Dijk and the club offer £30m Rudiger, or asking £60m for Alex Sandro and being offered a £20m Emerson

Not requesting a £55m Kounde and getting a £65m Dias

popizaino:
@timbros.....what do you have to say?

By August, Madrid would have spent 0 but added one of the best players in the world. with 0 spend

Ibime:
I am showing you how people who make financial decisions think. Someone who collects pocket money from his parents should not question how financial decisions are made. Dias was City's first choice. Financial considerations is what made them look Kounde and Koulibalys way thinking they would be cheaper. When they saw Kounde and Koulibaly being priced like a Dias, they went back to Dias.

A compromise is when Conte ask for £70m for Van Dijk and the club offer £30m Rudiger, or asking £60m for Alex Sandro and being offered a £20m Emerson

Not requesting a £55m Kounde and getting a £65m Dias

Not interested in your make believe scenario. City went for koulibaly chased him all through the transfer window before going for Gimenez then Kounde before settling for Ruben Dias very very late in the transfer window. Sell your bull.shit lies to someone else.

Trevor012:
Not interested in your make believe scenario. City went for koulibaly chased him all through the transfer window before going for Gimenez then Kounde before settling for Ruben Dias very very late in the transfer window. Sell your bull.shit lies to someone else.

Simple. Dias was first choice. They thought they could get a better financial deal elsewhere, and when they saw others asking outrageous amount, they might as well pay the outrageous amount for their first choice. City link with Dias has been going on for a year before they signed him

Double post

Skimpledawg:
Thou descendant of ancient babalawos masquerading as the prophet of Jah, your end is near.

Your place is in the creeks and hinterlands bordered by savannah.

Savannah ko, sharwama ni. Bloody shekpite.

Ibime:
Simple. Dias was first choice. They thought they could get a better financial deal elsewhere, and when they saw others asking outrageous amount, they might as well pay the outrageous amount for their first choice. City link with Dias has been going on for a year before they signed him

I already said sell this your bull.shit lie to someone else.

raumdeuter:
Its part of their excuse churning machinery

Na only Pep dey get all his first choice options when we know City went for Alexis, Jorginho, Koulibali Fred etc and missed out on them but Citeh fans wont complain

Chelsea fans complained that its Lukaku they want, they got Lukaku now, they are saying its not that version of Lukaku that it was forced on them

Truly truly I say onto you, Shekpites are delusional

You don’t understand, pep line up his target who play similarly and then start negotiation, anyone that comes is a win for him. Unlike clubs that the board bring their target for the manager and then go ahead to sign their target and not the manager’s.

Leyqute:
Savannah ko, sharwama ni. Bloody shekpite.

Maduman dey find sharwama for desert


You good man?

Trevor012:
I already said sell this your bull.shit lie to someone else.

You can rant all you want. They got their number one man. They thought his asking price was much, and explored other options they thought would be cheaper but still came back to number one when others priced themselves into his price bracket. That's how people with budgets make financial decisions. Those who collect pocket money can never think like people who have financial choices to make, so you won't understand.

hensben:
You don’t understand, pep line up his target who play similarly and then start negotiation, anyone that comes is a win for him. Unlike clubs that the board bring their target for the manager and then go ahead to sign their target and not the manager’s.

Every club including City have a list of players

They decide we want a striker, they get a list of names and rank them. They chase each one and pick the one that works out for them. That includes Chelsea

In the summer Tuchel probably stated that he wants a targetman, They will give him all the options in the market including Lukaku, They evaluated everyone and Lukaku fits best. Tuchel approves and Lukaku is signed

Miss me with bullshits

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-transfers-kounde-koulibaly-18985557.amp

Even more


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-fail-jules-kounde-22715197.amp

Otamendi was always in the table to use as makeweight

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/12694348/man-city-sevilla-kounde-koulibaly/amp/

Trevor012:
Even more


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-fail-jules-kounde-22715197.amp

You are now contradicting yourself. Your first post said Koulibaly was the main target, now this one is saying they bid for Kounde first and are now going for Koulibaly. According to your theory, who they bid for first is the primary target.

The fact remains these are all second choices after they decided Dias would be too expensive. Same Dias they have been chasing since 2019.

Skimpledawg:
Maduman dey find sharwama for desert


You good man?

I dey alright boss.

Can’t wait for EPL to return. Tired of all these cup competitions.

How’s the honeymoon for Santorini?

Ibime:
You are now contradicting yourself. Your first post said Koulibaly was the main target, now this one is saying they bid for Kounde first and are now going for Koulibaly. According to your theory, who they bid for first is the primary target.

The fact remains these are all second choices after they decided Dias would be too expensive. Same Dias they have been chasing since 2019.

Lmao This one can't even read or has eye problem.

This Ghana jersey no too bad oh

So these Ayews still dey play ball

Android22:
Sorry to chime in brother but your article and the parts you highlighted are only saying Conté did not want Matic sold to a direct rival. It is clear that Conté wanted to sell the player but he did not want him sold to United. Chelsea on the other hand preferred United because they were the most willing to pay for Chelsea's valuation of the player.

Where in that article did you deduce the highlighted from?

raumdeuter:
Every club including City have a list of players

They decide we want a striker, they get a list of names and rank them. They chase each one and pick the one that works out for them. That includes Chelsea

In the summer Tuchel probably stated that he wants a targetman, They will give him all the options in the market including Lukaku, They evaluated everyone and Lukaku fits best. Tuchel approves and Lukaku is signed

Where is your proof that it is Tuchel that approve Lukaku’s signing?

Them dan use smash and grab for ghana

iamoyindamola:
Them dan use smash and grab for ghana

I dey tell you!

For all the possession Ghana have enjoyed, they look jittery and unsure when defending.

What's up with AFCON and 1-0 scorelines?

hensben:
Where is your proof that it is Tuchel that approve Lukaku’s signing?

Check this link and watch the video in it

https://www.si.com/soccer/chelsea/transfer-news/report-thomas-tuchel-makes-romelu-lukaku-demand-to-chelsea-board-ahead-of-blockbuster-signing

“He (Lukaku) is the kind of profile who loves to play with his back to the opponent’s goal,” said Chelsea’s manager.

“Who likes to hold balls, who likes to create space.

“This is the kind of profile we don’t have in our squad right now and that we are looking for.

Ibime:
What's up with AFCON and 1-0 scorelines?

Thank God say we even see goal sef.

The Ghana v Morocco match was not too bad to be honest.