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Skimpledawg:
Before the EPL returns, let's see how Gerrard ginger his boys to dump you scummies out of the FA Cup comp tonight


Honeymoon going well. Not tired of chopping her work.

Wanted to ask, after honeymoon, what did you do next? Honest question

Continue to chop the work

popizaino:
I'm sure your link that you have been posting since God knows when to defend CONTE was written by Conte himself. Abeg take your L in peace and stop disturbing the thread.

It seems you are eternally blind, i will help you tag your Ogbomosho brother, Raumdeuter, to help you out.

Android22:
Did you read the article atleast from the snippets? It said he spoke to alot of people in and around Chelsea - including the higher-ups. Then when he asked them straight-up if Conte was misinforming the press to pass the blame to them, they said yes. Burt was not giving an opinion, he was reporting what he heard people in the know say.

We should believe a journalist that didn't name his sources but not Conte that was quoted below.

Ogbeni, this is 2022, be smart.

Leyqute:
Continue to chop the work

You sure say you be child of Jah like this so?

airmark:
We should believe a journalist that didn't name his sources but not Conte that was quoted below.

Ogbeni, this is 2022, be smart.

I don't feel your "be smart" comment was necessary and I will prove it. Just take note of the snippets below.

airmark:
We should believe a journalist that didn't name his sources but not Conte that was quoted below.

Ogbeni, this is 2022, be smart.

There's more:

airmark:
We should believe a journalist that didn't name his sources but not Conte that was quoted below.

Ogbeni, this is 2022, be smart.

As you can see, Conte did not travel with Matic because he knew the player was going to be sold. But when he was asked why (the journalists were expecting him to confirm the rumors that Matic was being offloaded) he was giving quotes about disciplining senior players to pass a lesson to the younger ones. He added that the coach should be in charge of the dressing room or it would lead to anarchy. Anarchy is a special word. I am sure you can put the pieces to the puzzle.

Android22:
I don't feel your "be smart" comment was necessary and I will prove it. Just take note of the snippets below.

All you've been doing is, speculate just like the unknown sources you have been quoting.

Android22:
As you can see, Conte did not travel with Matic because he knew the player was going to be sold. But when he was asked why (the journalists were expecting him to confirm the rumors that Matic was being offloaded) he was giving quotes about disciplining senior players to pass a lesson to the younger ones. He added that the coach should be in charge of the dressing room or it would lead to anarchy. Anarchy is a special word. I am sure you can put the pieces to the puzzle.

None of what you posted indicates this. It is your assumption, which is not written in stone.

Compare all you posted to what was gathered from the horse's mouth. You should be fined for wasting my time engaging you.

Post a statement from Conte that can be used in a law court to backs your claim that Conte effected Matic's sale. Something like this below. If you can't, please continue to feast on speculations.

airmark:
All you've been doing is, speculate just like unknown sources you have been quoting.

I used news from Express and Metro and showed cutouts from them. You did same from another tabloid but somehow mine is speculation and yours is legit, how na? Did the article I posted not quote Conte? Or Conte's own words are not good enough?

airmark:
None of what you posted indicates this. It is your assumption, which is not written in stone.

Compare all you posted to what was gathered from the horse's mouth. You should be fined for wasting my time engaging you.

Post a statement from Conte that can be used in a law court to backs your claim that Conte effected Matic's sale. Something like this below. If you can't, please continue to feast on speculations.

Let us see if you are following your own argument. In my screenshot to you what was Conté's reason for not taking Matic to the PRESEASON TOUR that players who are to feature in the coming season for a coach, have to attend? Maybe we can decide who is wasting whose time.

Android22:
I used news from Express and Metro and showed cutouts from them. You did same but somehow mine is a speculation and yours is legit, how na? Did the article I posted not quote Conte? Or Conte's own words is not good enough?

Conte wanted Matic to remain at Chelsea until Bakayoko mastered the league. Conte was quoted, but you wanted me to jettison that and accept diverging information brewed by speculations from commentators and unknown journalists. Bro, rest.

airmark:
Conte wanted Matic to remain at Chelsea until Bakayoko mastered the league. Conte was quoted, but you wanted me to jettison that and accept diverging information brewed by speculations from commentators and unknown journalists. Bro, rest.

You are not following the argument. Conte has said different things and your defense for him is untenable. Yes you rightly quoted him say he wanted Matic to help usher Bakayoko in (proving that he wanted Bakayoko by the way) but Conte is also quoted saying he did not want Matic sold to a direct rival. In addition, you are also ignoring the fact that Conte refused to go on a preseason tour with Matic but when he was asked about it, he related it to Matic supposedly being unruly. So how do you reconcile all these without seeing that only Conte's testimonies have changed all through the story? If Matic is supposed to help Bakayoko, how will he start helping him by not traveling for the preseason training? If Conte had fallen out with Matic, then what makes you think he was going to be starting him, considering he did not even travel with him for training? And if he won't start Matic, then how was he going to use Matic to mentor Bakayoko? And if you want to claim Matic could have mentored him from the bench, then why would Matic prefer to stay on the bench to play for a coach he had fallen out with when he could go to United for more money and playing time? You are the one to give it a rest. The matter is clear as day.

airmark:
Conte wanted Matic to remain at Chelsea until Bakayoko mastered the league. Conte was quoted, but you wanted me to jettison that and accept diverging information brewed by speculations from commentators and unknown journalists. Bro, rest.

When people don't follow your club in-depth, they will be arguing what they are just piecing together, something you already knew as it happened. The club already agreed to sell Matic against Contes wishes. At the last minute, Chelsea threw some extra demands in the agreement after Matic had already agreed good money with United. Whether Matic misbehaved to get the transfer over the line, who knows, but we can infer so from Conte comments. None of that means Conte disciplined him and sold him for misbehaving like Android22 is piecing together. Man is putting the cart before the horse and piecing together what he doesn't know. All that Summer, it was clear Conte was keen on keeping Matic. Nigga literally said Bakayoko was not ready for Chelsea before Bakayoko kicked a ball. They then made it worse by adding Drinkbleach to his options, as well as Barkley he never gave a fück about.

This is what some guys are comparing with Pep who discuss with friends over whiskey at the restaurant they all co-own (Pep, Bergiristain, and Soriano) who they will sign, including who they will sign if their preferred choice is unattainable.

Ibime:
When people don't follow your club in-depth, they will be arguing what they are just piecing together, something you already knew as it happened. The club already agreed to sell Matic against Contes wishes. At the last minute, Chelsea threw some extra demands in the agreement after Matic had already agreed good money with United. Whether Matic misbehaved to get the transfer over the line, nobody knows, but we can infer so from Conte comments. None of that means Conte disciplined him and sold him for misbehaving like Android22 is piecing together. Man is putting the cart before the horse and piecing together what he doesn't know. All that Summer, it was clear Conte was keen on keeping Matic. Nigga literally said Bakayoko was not ready for Chelsea before Bakayoko kicked a ball. They then made it worse by adding Drinkbleach to his options, as well as Barkley he never gave a fück about.

You cannot prove Matic was sold without Conte's wishes. You will have to speculate with only Conte's quotes saying he wanted Matic to mentor Bakayoko and that he was not happy he was sold to a direct rival as your evidence. But when I throw in the fact that Conte did not travel with the player he did not want to sell, you will easily speculate without any shred of evidence. And when you have Conte's reason for not traveling with said player, you now accept that Matic "may have done something to get his deal over the line". Yet in all of these, you do not see how it proves the point I had been making all along which is that Conte was expressing his dislike for the fact that Matic was sold to a rival, not that Matic was sold in its entirety.

Android22:
You cannot prove Matic was sold without Conte's wishes. You will have to speculate with only Conte's quotes saying he wanted Matic to mentor Bakayoko and that he was not happy he was sold to a direct rival as your evidence. But when I throw in the fact that Conte did not travel with the player he did not want to sell, you will easily speculate without any shred of evidence. And when you have Conte's reason for not traveling with said player, you now accept that Matic "may have done something to get his deal over the line". Yet in all of these, you do not see how it proves the point I had been making all along which is that Conte was expressing his dislike for the fact that Matic was sold to a rival, not that Matic was sold in its entirety.

Are you a Chelsea fan? No. Don't talk what you don't know. We will not rehash the numerous Conte interviews and press conferences on the matter here for your benefit. I did not speculate anything. It is known that Matic was forcing the move. The only thing I don't know definitively is what he did to force it. If you want to talk about the finer details of your club, Ed Woodward, Sandro Rosell or whatever, go ahead no one will argue with you. But you won't come here and start telling us about the finer details of what we all witnessed four years later. Conte said definitely he did not want Matic sold, he wanted him as first choice (did not trust Bakayoko as a starter), you started adding your own Maggi about direct rival. He did not want him sold, full stop and he said it, not a journalist or a gossip column but Conte himself korokoro live on camera.

And to highlight the inanity of your argument, not wanting a player to be sold is not mutually exclusive to not wanting to strengthen a rival. If you value a player not to sell him, it's just adding insult to injury if he goes to a rival, but the injury is already there. If Barca don't want to sell Messi, will you come and argue that Barca would love to sell him, they just don't want him to go to Madrid? They want neither, and one does not invalidate the other.

Ibime:
Are you a Chelsea fan? No. Don't talk what you don't know. We will not rehash the numerous Conte interviews and press conferences on the matter here for your benefit. I did not speculate anything. It is known that Matic was forcing the move. The only thing I don't know definitively is what he did to force it. If you want to talk about the finer details of your club, Ed Woodward, Sandro Rosell or whatever, go ahead no one will argue with you. But you won't come here and start telling us about the finer details of what we all witnessed four years later. Conte said definitely he did not want Matic sold, he wanted him as first choice (did not trust Bakayoko as a starter), you started adding your own Maggi about direct rival. He did not want him sold, full stop and he said it, not a journalist or a gossip column but Conte himself korokoro live on camera.

And to highlight the inanity of your argument, not wanting a player to be sold is not mutually exclusive to not wanting to strengthen a rival. If you value a player not to sell him, it's just adding insult to injury if he goes to a rival, but the injury is already there. If Barca don't want to sell Messi, will you come and argue that Barca would love to sell him, they just don't want him to go to Madrid? They want neither, and one does not invalidate the other.

It is as simple as bringing the evidence to justify your position. That, "You are not a Chelsea fan" argument is not very robust in holding up for your claims. He wanted him as first choice yet did not take that first choice to the preseason tour? The article that your fellow Chelsea fan presented here showed that my own position is abundantly corroborated. I brought Conte's own quotes as well. By the way, wanting a player sold is mutually exclusive to not wanting to strengthen a rival and the latter is the only thing the article emphasized. Reports said Levy was willing to sell Kane (as he did Modric) to RM or any team outside of the UK but was very unwilling to sell to a direct rival. It has been happening before now.

Android22:
It is as simple as bringing the evidence to justify your position. That, "You are not a Chelsea fan" argument is not very robust in holding up for your claims. He wanted him as first choice yet did not take that first choice to the preseason tour? .

Airmark has given you all the evidence you need, you continue to act foolish.

As of the tour, the transfer was 95% completed, that's why he didn't go on tour. You continue to foolishly use not going on tour as reason Conte wanted to kick him out when every Chelsea fan knows he wasn't taken on tour because he was on the cusp of finalising his move to Manure. The journalists only asked him about Matic because they knew the transfer was almost done and his absence was a telltale sign of the impending transfer.

Hence if you are not a Chelsea fan, keep quiet about what you know nothing about. It is better to concede an argument when those with more intimate memory of the topic tell you you are going offside, than to look obtuse and strong-headed.

You started your argument with Airmark with a post from a foolish journalist from Daily Express of all tabloids claiming Conte wanted to sell Matic to Man Utd. When shown Contes own words, you changed your argument to "Conte wanted to sell him, just not to Man Utd". You can see how you have no knowledge of the topic at hand, and now just arguing for argument sake and running your mouth like tap water, contradicting yourself.

popizaino:
Let me worship the coach of my rival in peace, it doesn't take away my 100% loyalty to Chelsea,I don't need to beat my chest,I love pep and Chelsea and nothing can stop that. If you love mourinho so much to be claiming his failures were due to players sabotaging him then you should be able to defend that because the way you love mourinho is the way some of us love the players you claim were sabotaging him.

You have a problem. A real one.

I am not holding you from worshipping Pep. I have already known which category to place you as a Chelsea fan. Keep deceiving yourself by saying you are 100% a Chelsea fan.

After the comment I made 7 years ago, Mourinho have coached at least 3 clubs till now. It beats me how you all of a sudden out of the blue start questioning that post because AS Roma lost 3-4 to Juventus. For context, look at any 7 year old around you and see how grown a child from the time I made that comment to now that you bring it up. Is this joblessness or what?

So because I claim players you love sabotage Mourinho 7 years ago, you still carry it about in your mind looking for when to bring the matter up? Wow! People dey o. Well, I will tell you again. Those your favorite players sabotaged Mourinho and cost him his job. If e too pain you, I dey my house. Come slap me.

I won't talk about this again. Cheers.

timbros:
You have a problem. A real one.

I am not holding you from worshipping Pep. I have already known which category to place you as a Chelsea fan. Keep deceiving yourself by saying you are 100% a Chelsea fan.

After the comment I made 7 years ago, Mourinho have coached at least 3 clubs till now. It beats me how you all of a sudden out of the blue start questioning that post because AS Roma lost 3-4 to Juventus. For context, look at any 7 year old around you and see how grown a child from the time I made that comment to now that you bring it up. Is this joblessness or what?

So because I claim players you love sabotage Mourinho 7 years ago, you still carry it about in your mind looking for when to bring the matter up? Wow! People dey o. Well, I will tell you again. Those your favorite players sabotaged Mourinho and cost him his job. If e too pain you, I dey my house. Come slap me.

I won't talk about this again. Cheers.

you get time walahi. lol
Ask him if he witnessed it, because according to him he doesn't comment on stuff like that.
What is his business with Roma?

He worships Pep and City and that is a known fact.

popizaino:
Have you forgotten when you said only pep Guardiola had the luxury of benching a 100m player and when I told you the amount doesn't matter but the quality?

Is there anywhere in my post that I compare the price of player to his quality? If there is, please I need you to quote it. At least it won't be hard for you, seeing you can dig out a 7 year comment.

My post was very clear: Only Pep have the luxury of benching a 100m player.... I don't see how that statement translates to player price vs player quality.

I am waiting for the quote.

FBS:
you get time walahi. lol
Ask him if he witnessed it, because according to him he doesn't comment on stuff like that.
What is his business with Roma?

He worships Pep and City and that is a known fact.

My brother, I just tire for the guy. What is my business with Roma? So if I love Mourinho, I will go about worshipping him like he does Pep?

This is a guy that cannot openingly wish for Chelsea to win Pep's City. And he calls himself 100% Chelsea fan. He can deny it, but I am VERY VERY sure he secretly wanted Pep to win Chelsea in that UCL final.

I don tellam say I no go reply am again on that matter.

Ibime:
As of the tour, the transfer was 95% completed, that's why he didn't go on tour. You continue to foolishly use not going on tour as reason Conte wanted to kick him out when every Chelsea fan knows he wasn't taken on tour because he was on the cusp of finalising his move to Manure.

There is no need for the drivel. What was Conte's response?

The journalists only asked him about Matic because they knew the transfer was almost done and his absence was a telltale sign of the impending transfer.

So why did Conte not tell them that if it was obvious to everyone?

You started your argument with Airmark with a post from a foolish journalist from Daily Express of all tabloids claiming Conte wanted to sell Matic to Man Utd.

You are the one who should be advised not to jump into a conversation, if you do not know where it began from.

When shown Contes own words, you changed your argument to "Conte wanted to sell him, just not to Man Utd".

Someone accused you of making things up as you go, and I thought they were being harsh but this above is proof that the person was right.

You can see how you have no knowledge of the topic at hand, and now just arguing for argument sake and running your mouth like tap water, contradicting yourself.

Just so I don't have to read through another incoherent nonsense from you, I am the one who told airmark that Conte did not want Matic sold to United even though he knew Matic was going to be sold. He asked me to prove that he knew and then I brought that article showing it. I never at any point said or presented any evidence alluding to Conte wanting to sell Matic to United. The journo in question did not either. Every major article use clickbaits as the headline which is why I also posted snippets of the actual article where Jason Burt said what he was told. Then I presented Conte alluding to dropping Matic because the player refused to recognize his authority.

Ibime:
When people don't follow your club in-depth, they will be arguing what they are just piecing together, something you already knew as it happened. The club already agreed to sell Matic against Contes wishes. At the last minute, Chelsea threw some extra demands in the agreement after Matic had already agreed good money with United. Whether Matic misbehaved to get the transfer over the line, who knows, but we can infer so from Conte comments. None of that means Conte disciplined him and sold him for misbehaving like Android22 is piecing together. Man is putting the cart before the horse and piecing together what he doesn't know. All that Summer, it was clear Conte was keen on keeping Matic. Nigga literally said Bakayoko was not ready for Chelsea before Bakayoko kicked a ball. They then made it worse by adding Drinkbleach to his options, as well as Barkley he never gave a fück about.

This is what some guys are comparing with Pep who discuss with friends over whiskey at the restaurant they all co-own (Pep, Bergiristain, and Soriano) who they will sign, including who they will sign if their preferred choice is unattainable.

Android22 like you said was just piecing things together thinking it made sense.

Ibime:
Are you a Chelsea fan? No. Don't talk what you don't know. We will not rehash the numerous Conte interviews and press conferences on the matter here for your benefit. I did not speculate anything. It is known that Matic was forcing the move. The only thing I don't know definitively is what he did to force it. If you want to talk about the finer details of your club, Ed Woodward, Sandro Rosell or whatever, go ahead no one will argue with you. But you won't come here and start telling us about the finer details of what we all witnessed four years later. Conte said definitely he did not want Matic sold, he wanted him as first choice (did not trust Bakayoko as a starter), you started adding your own Maggi about direct rival. He did not want him sold, full stop and he said it, not a journalist or a gossip column but Conte himself korokoro live on camera.

And to highlight the inanity of your argument, not wanting a player to be sold is not mutually exclusive to not wanting to strengthen a rival. If you value a player not to sell him, it's just adding insult to injury if he goes to a rival, but the injury is already there. If Barca don't want to sell Messi, will you come and argue that Barca would love to sell him, they just don't want him to go to Madrid? They want neither, and one does not invalidate the other.

I just tire.

Even that strenghtening Man utd question, was asked by a journalist and Conte's reply spoke volume to any smart person to understand. How some people don't want to accept they goofed in the face of convincing proofs, is beyond me.

airmark:
I just tire.

Even that strenghtening Man utd question, was asked by a journalist and Conte's reply spoke volume to any smart person to understand. How some people don't want to accept they goofed in the face of convincing proofs, is beyond me.

Full quote here

Skimpledawg:
You sure say you be child of Jah like this so?

People wey jah go deny plenty

Shekpites and shamelessly lying sha

BlueMann:

Devvy4:
Dead the thought that chelsea will ever sign Vini

Why

Everything for these bitchws na sue sue

Serves her right