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Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 10:59am On Jan 18, 2022
Lesson 43 Enjoy Life Forever

pls if your comments would be against this post, ensure to reference verses from the Bible to back it up

How Should Christians View Alcohol?
Around the world, people have different opinions about alcohol. Some enjoy sharing an occasional drink with friends. Others choose not to drink at all. Still others drink to the point of getting drunk. What is the Bible’s view of alcohol?
1. Is it wrong to drink alcoholic beverages? The Bible does not condemn drinking alcohol. On the contrary, when listing many gifts that God has given us, the Bible includes “wine that makes man’s heart rejoice.” (Psalm 104:14, 15) Some faithful men and women mentioned in the Bible drank alcoholic beverages.​—1 Timothy 5:23.
23 Do not drink water any longer, but take a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent cases of sickness.
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 11:02am On Jan 18, 2022
2. What advice does the Bible give to those who choose to drink?
Jehovah God condemns heavy drinking and drunkenness. (Galatians 5:21) His Word says: “Do not be among those who drink too much wine.” (Proverbs 23:20) So if we choose to drink​—even in private—​we should not drink so much that we cannot think clearly, control our speech and actions, or maintain our physical health. If we cannot control our drinking, we should be willing to stop drinking altogether.

3. How can we respect the decisions of others regarding alcohol?
Each person must decide whether to drink alcoholic beverages. We should not judge someone who chooses to drink alcohol in moderation, and we should not pressure someone to drink who does not want to. (Romans 14:10) We choose not to drink if our drinking could cause problems for others. (Read Romans 14:21.) We seek “not [our] own advantage, but that of the other person.”​—Read 1 Corinthians 10:23, 24.
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Mightymosco: 11:25am On Jan 18, 2022
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Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Myer(m): 6:23am On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Lesson 43 Enjoy Life Forever

pls if your comments would be against this post, ensure to reference verses from the Bible to back it up

How Should Christians View Alcohol?
Around the world, people have different opinions about alcohol. Some enjoy sharing an occasional drink with friends. Others choose not to drink at all. Still others drink to the point of getting drunk. What is the Bible’s view of alcohol?
1. Is it wrong to drink alcoholic beverages? The Bible does not condemn drinking alcohol. On the contrary, when listing many gifts that God has given us, the Bible includes “wine that makes man’s heart rejoice.” (Psalm 104:14, 15) Some faithful men and women mentioned in the Bible drank alcoholic beverages.​—1 Timothy 5:23.
23 Do not drink water any longer, but take a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent cases of sickness.
I believe this is a well balanced post.
Though there are those called Nazarene in the bible that were forbidden from taking alcohol.
And alcohol for judges (kings and leaders) can make them pervert justice.

But the submission of the bible is that drinking is not a sin, but drunkenness is.
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Kobojunkie: 12:32pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
How Should Christians View Alcohol?
Around the world, people have different opinions about alcohol. Some enjoy sharing an occasional drink with friends. Others choose not to drink at all. Still others drink to the point of getting drunk. What is the Bible’s view of alcohol?
1. Is it wrong to drink alcoholic beverages? The Bible does not condemn drinking alcohol. On the contrary, when listing many gifts that God has given us, the Bible includes “wine that makes man’s heart rejoice.” (Psalm 104:14, 15) Some faithful men and women mentioned in the Bible drank alcoholic beverages.​—1 Timothy 5:23.
23 Do not drink water any longer, but take a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent cases of sickness.
God is a God of Laws and there is no relationship with God outside of His Law. The two prominent of such Laws in the Bible are the

■ Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH, God's agreement between God and His people, Israel as Law and constitution over them in the land/Kingdom of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 undecided
■ New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, God's agreement between Himself and individual men - not groups or nations or peoples - , God's Law over the lives of those who are in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 undecided

It is in His Law that God makes known that which is sin to everyone of those who will choose Him and in the Kingdom of God, the details of God's Law are found in the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ which we are called upon to trust and obey- John 14 vs 1 - 2 undecided


Now as regards drinking of alcohol, and eating of foods, God's Law grants us freedom from fear of any ingestables - Matthew 15 vs 10- 20, restricting us to nothing, not even poison - Mark 16 vs 15 - 19 undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by tctrills: 12:38pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Lesson 43 Enjoy Life Forever

pls if your comments would be against this post, ensure to reference verses from the Bible to back it up

How Should Christians View Alcohol?
Around the world, people have different opinions about alcohol. Some enjoy sharing an occasional drink with friends. Others choose not to drink at all. Still others drink to the point of getting drunk. What is the Bible’s view of alcohol?
1. Is it wrong to drink alcoholic beverages? The Bible does not condemn drinking alcohol. On the contrary, when listing many gifts that God has given us, the Bible includes “wine that makes man’s heart rejoice.” (Psalm 104:14, 15) Some faithful men and women mentioned in the Bible drank alcoholic beverages.​—1 Timothy 5:23.
23 Do not drink water any longer, but take a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent cases of sickness.
Is alcohol good for the body? Alcohol damages the liver and increases the possibility of cancers and a whole lot of deseases. Is there any health benefit of alcohol? none except when used as a drug. Is it a sin to abuse your body or to endanger your body? If yes, then taking alcohol is wrong as it adds no nutrients to the body. It only works as a drug.
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 12:53pm On Jan 19, 2022
The bible is against binge drinking excess intake or any form of abuse of alcohol. If you can't control yourself then you abstain from it all together.
Drinking it wisely will do you no harm.


tctrills:
Is alcohol good for the body? Alcohol damages the liver and increases the possibility of cancers and a whole lot of deseases. Is there any health benefit of alcohol? none except when used as a drug. Is it a sin to abuse your body or to endanger your body? If yes, then taking alcohol is wrong as it adds no nutrients to the body. It only works as a drug.
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 1:03pm On Jan 19, 2022
I won't respond to your post bro it's useless. Sorry for using that word.
My advice for you is not to think of eating or drinking or injecting poison. Cos e go shock you.
Kobojunkie:
God is a God of Laws and there is no relationship with God outside of His Law. The two prominent of such Laws in the Bible are the

■ Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH, God's agreement between God and His people, Israel as Law and constitution over them in the land/Kingdom of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 undecided
■ New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, God's agreement between Himself and individual men - not groups or nations or peoples - , God's Law over the lives of those who are in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 undecided

It is in His Law that God makes known that which is sin to everyone of those who will choose Him and in the Kingdom of God, the details of God's Law are found in the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ which we are called upon to trust and obey- John 14 vs 1 - 2 undecided


Now as regards drinking of alcohol, and eating of foods, God's Law grants us freedom from fear of any ingestables - Matthew 15 vs 10- 20, restricting us to nothing, not even poison - Mark 16 vs 15 - 19 undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by tctrills: 1:14pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
The bible is against binge drinking excess intake or any form of abuse of alcohol. If you can't control yourself then you abstain from it all together.
Drinking it wisely will do you no harm.
What does it really mean to drink wisely? Can you see your liver? Can you tell how much alcohol intake would damage your liver? It's not about getting drunk, it's about living a healthy lifestyle.
A lot of people think that the biggest problem with alcohol is drunkenness. It's not.
It increases cancer risk, blood pressure, diabetes risk. So even if you never get drunk, you might be risking your health for nothing.
Is it a sin to knowingly take in substance's that could reduce your lifespan?
In the days of the Bible, they knew very little about the health implications of consuming alcohol but today, we know.
James 4.17
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by tctrills: 1:17pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
I won't respond to your post bro it's useless. Sorry for using that word.
My advice for you is not to think of eating or drinking or injecting poison. Cos e go shock you.
wise words
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by tctrills: 1:23pm On Jan 19, 2022
In the US alone, there are over 300 000 alcohol related deaths. These people did not died just because they got drunk. The continuous usage of alcohol over time does no good to the body.
The liver reacts to alcohol the same way it reacts to poison.
We knowingly punish and overwork our liver and kidneys. Then we talk of brain cell damage. If you respect your body as a gift from God, you would abstain from drinking. Drinking any amount of alcohol causes damage to the brain
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 2:00pm On Jan 19, 2022
Your not wrong bro. If has anything to do bout your health negatively, it's best to abstain.
If you can't control your consumption, you abstain too.
And if you willingly chose to abstain, it's all good.
Also if you want to drink, it's accepted but don't drink in excess and to point where you won't be able to control what you say or do.



tctrills:
What does it really mean to drink wisely? Can you see your liver? Can you tell how much alcohol intake would damage your liver? It's not about getting drunk, it's about living a healthy lifestyle.
A lot of people think that the biggest problem with alcohol is drunkenness. It's not.
It increases cancer risk, blood pressure, diabetes risk. So even if you never get drunk, you might be risking your health for nothing.
Is it a sin to knowingly take in substance's that could reduce your lifespan?
In the days of the Bible, they knew very little about the health implications of consuming alcohol but today, we know.
James 4.17
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Kobojunkie: 2:30pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
I won't respond to your post bro it's useless. Sorry for using that word.
My advice for you is not to think of eating or drinking or injecting poison. Cos e go shock you.
So, I take it that you don't believe in the one who is the Word of God Himself? undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:58pm On Jan 19, 2022
According to God's word the earth was CURSED after Adam's sin and ever since then it has stopped growing healthy food for mankind {Genesis 3:18} and our bodies keep loosing it's strength to withstand these things.
So until God's blessings return the earth will not grow life sustaining food rather it will only grow things that will carry us through the day not life sustaining food.
If we should test all the things we eat and drink the only thing that we can be 100% sure of it's content is water, the more we test the food we eat the more scientists keep discovering that there's no food that 100% safe.
So whether we eat or drink out bodies are harmed continuously until God's kingdom come!
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 3:14pm On Jan 19, 2022
Jesus is not literally "word" but a title ascribed to him by John majorly because of his role in revealing God's word.
John 12:49 New Living Translation
I don’t speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.

Revelation 1:1
[1]This is a revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants the events that must soon take place. He sent an angel to present this revelation to his servant John,


Hebrews 1:1-2
[1]Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets.
[2]And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.

Kobojunkie:
So, I take it that you don't believe in the one who is the Word of God Himself? undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Kobojunkie: 3:34pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
1. Jesus is not literally "word" but a title ascribed to him by John majorly because of his role in revealing God's word.
John 12:49 New Living Translation
I don’t speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.
1. Wow. shocked

So you don't see how the very verse you quoted there of Jesus Christ literally tells you that every Word out of Jesus Christ's mouth is not His but God’s Word? undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 3:42pm On Jan 19, 2022
Jesus was like God's spokesman. What's the difference between what I said and what you said? I was just explaining that "word" is a title for Jesus.
Do you just comment without reading?

Kobojunkie:
1. Wow. shocked

So you don't see how the very verse you quoted there of Jesus Christ literally tells you that every Word out of Jesus Christ's mouth is not His but God’s Word? undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Kobojunkie: 4:01pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Jesus was like God's spokesman. What's the difference between what I said and what you said? I was just explaining that "word" is a title for Jesus.
Do you just comment without reading?
He was God's Spokesman meaning every Word out of His mouth was the very Word out of God's own mouth, the same Word out of God's mouth we are directed by God to live by - Matthew 4 vs 4 ? undecided

You claim it is a "title", a temporary hat of sorts that Jesus Christ wore and hence with no literal meaning to it, but 2000 years and counting, He still wears said title.... In fact it is eternal title and the command is we live literally by it. undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 4:08pm On Jan 19, 2022
Kobojunkie:
He was God's Spokesman meaning every Word out of His mouth was the very Word out of God's own mouth, the same Word out of God's mouth we are directed by God to live by - Matthew 4 vs 4 ? undecided

You claim it is a "title", a temporary hat of sorts that Jesus Christ wore and hence with no literal meaning to it, but 2000 years and counting, He still wears said title.... In fact it is eternal title and the command is we live literally by it. undecided
So? undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Kobojunkie: 4:11pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
So? undecided
Jesus Christ is, as John told you, God's Word and Law by which your very existence is to be lived by and the very standard by which you will be judged in the Kingdom of God. lipsrsealed
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 4:23pm On Jan 19, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is, as John told you, God's Word and Law by which your very existence is to be lived by and the very standard by which you will be judged in the Kingdom of God. lipsrsealed
So?
Na inside God's kingdom Dem go take judge you?
God kingdom is not literally heaven itself but God's kingdom is in heaven but will later come to earth to fulfill God's will for earth.." let your kingdom come, and let your will be done on earth as it's in heaven"...
Dan 2:44 the prophecy...
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Kobojunkie: 5:01pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
So?
1. Na inside God's kingdom Dem go take judge you?
.
1. Yes! When you become born-again, Jesus Christ told you in John 3 vs 1 - 8 that you enter into the Kingdom of God. And when He returns in His Kingdom, He will judge every one in His flock aka those in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 undecided

And as Jesus Christ also pointed , His Kingdom is not of this world. undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 5:40pm On Jan 19, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Yes! When you become born-again, Jesus Christ told you in John 3 vs 1 - 8 that you enter into the Kingdom of God. And when He returns in His Kingdom, He will judge every one in His flock aka those in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 undecided

And as Jesus Christ also pointed , His Kingdom is not of this world. undecided
See bro there's no need for the born agains to be judged.
How would those already in God's kingdom that are born again be judged? On the contrary, they will judge people themselves. The bible says they will even judge angels.
1 Corinthians 6:3 NLV
Don’t you realize that we will judge angels? So you should surely be able to resolve ordinary disputes in this life.

Where you de see your doctrines, i no know o huh undecided huh undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by Kobojunkie: 6:10pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
See bro there's no need for the born agains to be judged.

1. How would those already in God's kingdom that are born again be judged? On the contrary, they will judge people themselves. The bible says they will even judge angelsz...

Where you de see your doctrines, i no know o huh undecided huh undecided
1. Carefully read what Jesus Christ, the one whose Kingdom it is, told you will happen in John 5 vs 19 - 29 & Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. Everyone in His Kingdom, sheep and goats alike, will be judged. undecided
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by oteneaaron(m): 7:23pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
2. What advice does the Bible give to those who choose to drink?
Jehovah God condemns heavy drinking and drunkenness. (Galatians 5:21) His Word says: “Do not be among those who drink too much wine.” (Proverbs 23:20) So if we choose to drink​—even in private—​we should not drink so much that we cannot think clearly, control our speech and actions, or maintain our physical health. If we cannot control our drinking, we should be willing to stop drinking altogether.

3. How can we respect the decisions of others regarding alcohol?
Each person must decide whether to drink alcoholic beverages. We should not judge someone who chooses to drink alcohol in moderation, and we should not pressure someone to drink who does not want to. (Romans 14:10) We choose not to drink if our drinking could cause problems for others. (Read Romans 14:21.) We seek “not [our] own advantage, but that of the other person.”​—Read 1 Corinthians 10:23, 24.
Very interesting points.

Hope you don't mind me asking..

Is this why Governing Body member, Anthony Morris was caught on camera buying over 6 bottles of liquor on a Sunday morning when he should have been at the Kingdom Hall??

I know MaxInDHouse will come for my head now grin

I saw this on YouTube - -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR4oBqrQ1UY
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by cornelboy(op): 8:35pm On Jan 19, 2022
Thank God he wasn't caught drunk and how are you sure it was on Sunday morning?

oteneaaron:
Very interesting points.

Hope you don't mind me asking..

Is this why Governing Body member, Anthony Morris was caught on camera buying over 6 bottles of liquor on a Sunday morning when he should have been at the Kingdom Hall??

I know MaxInDHouse will come for my head now grin

I saw this on YouTube - -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR4oBqrQ1UY
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03pm On Jan 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Thank God he wasn't caught drunk and how are you sure it was on Sunday morning?
This boy thought we view members of the Governing Body the same way their greedy religious leaders painted Jesus. cheesy
If Jesus turned water to wine why accuse one of his anointed brothers buying wine for a purpose best known to him? Luke 7:31-35 smiley
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13pm On Jan 19, 2022
oteneaaron:
Very interesting points.
Hope you don't mind me asking..
Is this why Governing Body member, Anthony Morris was caught on camera buying over 6 bottles of liquor on a Sunday morning when he should have been at the Kingdom Hall??
I know MaxInDHouse will come for my head now grin
I saw this on YouTube - -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR4oBqrQ1UY
You're just a clown boy! cheesy

It's the Jesus the churches of Christendom fabricated for their gullible followers that's lifeless not the Bible Jesus that eats and drinks! Luke 7:31-35

So if a member of the Governing Body buys alcoholic beverages what makes you think a fully competent and completely equipped JW will feel anything strange? cheesy
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by oteneaaron(m): 6:09am On Jan 20, 2022
cornelboy:
Thank God he wasn't caught drunk and how are you sure it was on Sunday morning?
Hahahaha

He was caught on camera on the 31st of March 2019 at around 11am.

The funny thing is that the store where he bought this hoard of alcohol from was 45 miles away from the JW headquarters.

He didn't want anyone in the bethel family to catch him buying alcohol.

grin
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by oteneaaron(m): 6:18am On Jan 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You're just a clown boy! cheesy

It's the Jesus the churches of Christendom fabricated for their gullible followers that's lifeless not the Bible Jesus that eats and drinks! Luke 7:31-35

So if a member of the Governing Body buys alcoholic beverages what makes you think a fully competent and completely equipped JW will feel anything strange? cheesy
Hahahahaha

He calls me a clown.

E enter am grin

Your beloved GB who is a Guardian of your always changing doctrines, drove 45 miles away from the JW world headquarters, on a Sunday just to go and buy alcohol.

Why didn't he buy it around the JW headquarters area?

Of course, him no wan cast himself.

What would the Bethel family members say when they see a GB member buying a full hoard of 12 bottles of alcohol on a Sunday?

Why didn't he at least preach to the guy who caught him on camera in the wine store?

Abeg next time he should just send one of the GB helpers to help him on his alcohol runs because this was too embarrassing.

Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45am On Jan 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Hahahahaha
He calls me a clown.
E enter am grin
Your beloved GB who is a Guardian of your always changing doctrines, drove 45 miles away from the JW world headquarters, on a Sunday just to go and buy alcohol.
Why didn't he buy it around the JW headquarters area?
Have you forgotten that he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Well a JW will prefer to drive ten miles to buy something if the seller is one of Jehovah's Witnesses! John 13:34-35 smiley
oteneaaron:
Of course, him no wan cast himself.
What would the Bethel family members say when they see a GB member buying a full hoard of 12 bottles of alcohol on a Sunday?
Why didn't he at least preach to the guy who caught him on camera in the wine store?
Abeg next time he should just send one of the GB helpers to help him on his alcohol runs because this was too embarrassing.
Chai the spirit in you speaks louder than words coming out of your mouth. Luke 6:45
Well Jesus warned them not to Lord it over the brothers {Matthew 20:25} in other words a Governing Body member supposed to be one of my servants that should run errands for me and not the other way around! Matthew 20:26; 23:11-12; Mark 9:35

So humble yourself and learn because brother Morris will not even agree if i voluntarily want to run an errand for him, this are real Jesus' brothers {John 15:14} not your regular pastors you choose over yourselves to teach you what you want to hear! 2Timothy 4:3-4 cheesy
Re: Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? What Does The Bible Say? by oteneaaron(m): 6:55am On Jan 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Have you forgotten that he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Well a JW will prefer to drive ten miles to buy something if the seller is one of Jehovah's Witnesses! John 13:34-35 smiley

Chai the spirit in you speaks louder than words coming out of your mouth. Luke 6:45
Well Jesus warned them not to Lord it over the brothers, in other words a Governing Body member supposed to be one of my servants that should run errands for me and not the other way around! Matthew 20:26; 23:11-12; Mark 9:35

So humble yourself and learn because brother Morris will not even agree if i voluntarily want to run an errand for him, this are real Jesus' brothers {John 15:14} not your regular pastors you choose over yourselves to teach you what you want to hear! 2Timothy 4:3-4 cheesy
Hahahahaha

Jesus's brothers indeed.

Before I forget, which money did he use to buy that almost $1000 worth of alcohol?

That is almost 500k worth of alcohol in Naira!

I hope it's not the money that many JWs from around the world including children have been contributing all this while.

Check out this other video below...

Was Anthony Morris actually drunk during the morning worship broadcast or what exactly was going on with him?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X67RAvC8HWM
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