₦airaland Forum

Kazikazi:
Its easy to have a big GDP, but its hard,really hard to translate the GDP figures into the lives of ordinary folks in kibera,turkana,pokot,wajir,mathare, mukuru,Bangladeshi slum in Mombasa,etc.
Its funny though
Africans wants a big GDP for a shoe off,but the truth is,a GDP should be there to lift up the standard of living ordinary folks.
In your figures,your GDP is closer to Morocco's. But on ground,Morocco is light years ahead of you.

Faking is easy,any fool can do it

Even with faking, Kenya's GDP is less than $100bn.
He and his hangers on have failed to post any credible source to back up their claims. Instead they resorted to their usual ad hominem.

Jamestown123:
Kenya railway made 1.3b shillings last year.

So what's that fool, RIP barking about?
Their sgr has lost money consistently.

Obaboon, Kenya was at nearly 50 in world in ease of doing business - Only Mauritus, Rwanda and Morrocco was better. Nigeria as always is clustering with worse in the world. It start from electricity, lack of basic infrastructure, totally incompetent gov, insecurity - how can you as start up thrive in such circumstance.

And yes i have seen data that most Nigeria tech start up - fail the most. Your nigeria diaspora are pulling silicon valley funding but trust me they will leave without their shirts.

I hope they dont besmirch other thriving African countries in the process by thinking business in africa will fail.

obaaderemi:
You have to blame little India for this anomaly. They claim to have many tech firms, and they're not making money. Their ihub was recently taken over by Nigerians. So I know what I'm talking about.
Useless country.

obaaderemi:
So what's that fool, RIP barking about?
Their sgr has lost money consistently.

30m dollars monthly na small thing?

rvp2018:
Obaboon, Kenya was at nearly 50 in world in ease of doing business - Only Mauritus, Rwanda and Morrocco was better. Nigeria as always is clustering with worse in the world. It start from electricity, lack of basic infrastructure, totally incompetent gov, insecurity - how can you as start up thrive in such circumstance.

And yes i have seen data that most Nigeria tech start up - fail the most. Your nigeria diaspora are pulling silicon valley funding but trust me they will leave without their shirts.

I hope they dont besmirch other thriving African countries in the process by thinking business in africa will fail.

why is Kenya not attracting any serious investment?

I have an answer based on your country reality but I want to see what you think

Kenya is not a zoo. If you want to study the Kenya Railways financial statement - they are available.

Kenya Railways is one prime assets of Kenya gov - with assets of nearly 8B dollars.

Of course it has liability of 5.2B dollars from Chinese - that it borrowed to build Mombasa-Nairobi-Naivasha SGR and it's rolling stock

It also generate now more than 200M dollars annually - although it making huge losses - as the loan repayment to Chinese has to be factored in financial reporting.

Kenya gov is only the guarantor...but we expect Kenya Railways not only to become operationally profitable but to eventually pay for it's debt.

FACTS are stubborns things.

obaaderemi:
So what's that fool, RIP barking about?
Their sgr has lost money consistently.

Kenya is receiving decent investment in tech - swinging with hopeless NIgeria for top spot the last few years. When it come to FDI that typically come to Africa - that natural extraction - of course we are doing badly - and we couldnt be LUCKIER. We have avoided the Nigeria or Congo or Africa natural resources curses...instead we have built a well diversified liberized market economy that is almost BULLET PROOF...not even COVID can take it down...maybe civil war.

We are attracting FDI in sectors that create jobs. We are also second to South Africa in Sub Saharan Africa for investing in other Africa countries.

Just40:
why is Kenya not attracting any serious investment?

I have and answer based on your country reality but I want to see what you think

rvp2018:
Obaboon, Kenya was at nearly 50 in world in ease of doing business - Only Mauritus, Rwanda and Morrocco was better. Nigeria as always is clustering with worse in the world. It start from electricity, lack of basic infrastructure, totally incompetent gov, insecurity - how can you as start up thrive in such circumstance.

And yes i have seen data that most Nigeria tech start up - fail the most. Your nigeria diaspora are pulling silicon valley funding but trust me they will leave without their shirts.

I hope they dont besmirch other thriving African countries in the process by thinking business in africa will fail.

RIP, all this noise does nothing against the fact that your startups are doing badly. Look at ihub for example. It is your biggest innovation hub yet had to be rescued by Nigerians. Facts are stubborn things, skeleton.
Don't have time to type a novella this morning.

You're arguing like an idiot. Ihub was co-founded by one my friend and classmate. There are many hubs in Nairobi. It is just a building - a co-working space. What is big deal about it.

Let talk data. Data we have suggest Nigeria start up have worse failure rate than in Kenya.

It plain obvious - they probably spend more time worrying about generator fuel than working.

obaaderemi:
RIP, all this noise does nothing against the fact that your startups are doing badly. Look at ihub for example. It is your biggest innovation hub yet had to be rescued by Nigerians. Facts are stubborn things, skeleton.
Don't have time to type a novella this morning.

rvp2018:
Kenya is not a zoo. If you want to study the Kenya Railways financial statement - they are available.

Kenya Railways is one prime assets of Kenya gov - with assets of nearly 8B dollars.

Of course it has liability of 5.2B dollars from Chinese - that it borrowed to build Mombasa-Nairobi-Naivasha SGR and it's rolling stock

It also generate now more than 200M dollars annually - although it making huge losses - as the loan repayment to Chinese has to be factored in financial reporting.

Kenya gov is only the guarantor...but we expect Kenya Railways not only to become operationally profitable but to eventually pay for it's debt.

FACTS are stubborns things.

Kenya railway service 761m shillings. 200m dollars annually is about 22b shillings. The question is, does kenya railway service make 22b shillings annually?

rvp2018:
Kenya is not a zoo. If you want to study the Kenya Railways financial statement - they are available.

Kenya Railways is one prime assets of Kenya gov - with assets of nearly 8B dollars.

Of course it has liability of 5.2B dollars from Chinese - that it borrowed to build Mombasa-Nairobi-Naivasha SGR and it's rolling stock

It also generate now more than 200M dollars annually - although it making huge losses - as the loan repayment to Chinese has to be factored in financial reporting.

Kenya gov is only the guarantor...but we expect Kenya Railways not only to become operationally profitable but to eventually pay for it's debt.

FACTS are stubborns things.

that's a lie

Kenya railway will never be able to pay it debt .... It has all fallen on your govt now..

In 5 more years of running without breaking even, it will become another derelict just like how your MGR went

Kenya GDP is 110B. Not 100B. That was in 2019 when it hit 99B. You cannot compare Kenya with Algeria and Morroco in some aspect. Both Morocco and Algeria have big problem in structure of their economy - its entirely public sector - with very little private sector. It's why Algerians have escaped to France and Europe. Both of those countries need to figure out how to grow private sector like kenya has done.

My prediction - Kenya will overtake Morroco in 2 - max 3 yrs. I hope we shall be hear. Now the gap is just 20B dollars or less.

obaaderemi:

Even with faking, Kenya's GDP is less than $100bn.
He and his hangers on have failed to post any credible source to back up their claims. Instead they resorted to their usual ad hominem.

Please this beyond your paygrade. Wait until I get to pictures and videos. Then you will make meaningful contribution.

Jamestown123:
Kenya railway service 761m shillings. 200m dollars annually is about 22b shillings. The question is, does kenya railway service make 22b shillings annually?

rvp2018:
Kenya is receiving decent investment in tech - swinging with hopeless NIgeria for top spot the last few years. When it come to FDI that typically come to Africa - that natural extraction - of course we are doing badly - and we couldnt be LUCKIER. We have avoided the Nigeria or Congo or Africa natural resources curses...instead we have built a well diversified liberized market economy that is almost BULLET PROOF...not even COVID can take it down...maybe civil war.

We are attracting FDI in sectors that create jobs. We are also second to South Africa in Sub Saharan Africa for investing in other Africa countries.

where are the jobs when your unemployment keep increasing at an astronomical rate?

Most VC pull their money out after a year or two of not making any serious money making those start ups collapse.

Your country FDI is as small as that of Uganda

rvp2018:
Please this beyond your paygrade. Wait until I get to pictures and videos. Then you will make meaningful contribution.

Lol. Does kenya railway make 200m dollars per annum? Since you seems to know it all, why don't you simplify this things for me to understand?

@RVP?
10 lane Lagos Airport completed in the year 2018 but still looks brand new, this would have been in all social media platforms in a tiny country called Kenya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZLXTFx4Cg0

Last year - Jan-June - SGR alone - 80M dollars - run by Chinese AfriStar . There is MGR and Nairobi Commuter rail run by KR.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/sgr-posts-33pc-rise-in-jan-june-revenue-3517802
Revenue generated from cargo and passenger services on the standard gauge railway (SGR) rose by 33 percent in the six months to June, lifted by a rebounding economy, official statistics show.

Data by the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS) shows that the passenger and cargo trains generated Sh7.936 billion in the period, up from Sh5.963 billion in a similar period last year.

Jamestown123:
Lol. Does kenya railway make 200m dollars per annum? Since you seems to know it all, why don't you simplify this things for me to understand?

Jamestown123:
Kenya railway service 761m shillings. 200m dollars annually is about 22b shillings. The question is, does kenya railway service make 22b shillings annually?

Sorry kenya is not going to provide company for your misery
You wish Kenya Railways was ferrying 400 passengers per day like Nigeria hopeless Railway
My friend Kenya Railways - Nairobi Commutter rail alone ferries close to 15,000 if not now 30,000 people in Nairobi alone - daily - each pays 100shs.
Kenya SGR run more than 15 cargo trains every day from Mombasa to Naivasha. It carries about 2 million passengers annual. 4 passengers train daily - all full.
The old MGR run cargo trains from Mombasa to Malaba - the border with Uganda.
Old MGR now run passengers services from Nairobi to Kisumu and Nairobi to Nanyuki

68816419:

rvp2018:
Kenya GDP is 110B. Not 100B. That was in 2019 when it hit 99B. You cannot compare Kenya with Algeria and Morroco in some aspect. Both Morocco and Algeria have big problem in structure of their economy - its entirely public sector - with very little private sector. It's why Algerians have escaped to France and Europe. Both of those countries need to figure out how to grow private sector like kenya has done.

My prediction - Kenya will overtake Morroco in 2 - max 3 yrs. I hope we shall be hear. Now the gap is just 20B dollars or less.

you are running mad .....

The Kenyan economy is 80% public sector run..


The Moroccan and Algerian economies are more private sector run .. on the level of SA

Jamestown123:
Lol. Does kenya railway make 200m dollars per annum? Since you seems to know it all, why don't you simplify this things for me to understand?

no

They make 10 million dollars per Annum which is a loss

Bla de bla of bleating goat.

Just40:
you are running mad .....

The Kenyan economy is 80% public sector run..


The Moroccan and Algerian economies are more private sector run .. on the level of SA

MPS breaks another record on clearance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0yNC2YUWv4

rvp2018:
Bla de bla of bleating goat.

Tantrums from a liar caught red handed

Lunatic

rvp2018:
Samrobo I see you're desperate for my attention with your juventile rants - I got big reply for all your nonsense. It is in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps

And it's night version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3geimRsiQDE

Oh I have seen both of this videos. What where you expecting to impress me in this videos?

rvp2018:
Nairobi Railway city - regeneration of Nairobi city get UK funding of design - Kenya gov to fund the construction that start this year at 250M dollars

https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/uk-firm-set-design-246-6m-railways-city-in-kenya-3686766

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=935Y-PMNlQ8

https://cdn.standardmedia.co.ke/images/tuesday/mhetolixu6s4wjszsrs85f293414cc3e9.jpg


''The construction of this project will be fully financed by the Kenyan government. UK's firms KPMG and Atkins Global are only handling the research and design work,'' Ford said in a press interview.

Yesterday, Atkins Global presented a preliminary design for the multi-model urban development project to be referred to as the Nairobi Railway City.

“UK firm Atkins Global has been appointed to design Nairobi’s new Central Train Station and associated public realm, which will provide the centrepiece of Nairobi Railway City,” Ford said.

Stupid update. This will remain in design stage up on till the next century just like konza tea farm joke.

I think we are beyond impressing you - you've basically dug every slum in Kenya to try validate your slumpolis.
Polite reminder that it's complete .
And that 8 - now 9 towers of River Estate are coming up very fast.
And many more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKbv-X8aq0

samorobo:
Oh I have seen both of this videos. What where you expecting to impress me in this videos?

gallivant:
Toilets, when will Nigeria get there? Forget train speed!!

https://alexis.lindaikejisblog.com/photos/shares/5f6e4435e8d87.png

Who are this butt nak.Ed men you keep posting you bloody pervert.

The raw anger - and we just go started. Construction to start this year. Nairobi might become the World Most Dynamic City.

samorobo:
Stupid update. This will remain in design stage up on till the next century just like konza tea farm joke.

rvp2018:
Sorry kenya is not going to provide company for your misery
You wish Kenya Railways was ferrying 400 passengers per day like Nigeria hopeless Railway
My friend Kenya Railways - Nairobi Commutter rail alone ferries close to 15,000 if not now 30,000 people in Nairobi alone - daily - each pays 100shs.
Kenya SGR run more than 15 cargo trains every day from Mombasa to Naivasha. It carries about 2 million passengers annual. 4 passengers train daily - all full.
The old MGR run cargo trains from Mombasa to Malaba - the border with Uganda.
Old MGR now run passengers services from Nairobi to Kisumu and Nairobi to Nanyuki

Do u even know that the value given was only for passengers and not the Cargos?

rvp2018:
I think we are beyond impressing you - you've basically dug every slum in Kenya to try validate your slumpolis.
Polite reminder that it's complete .
And that 8 - now 9 towers of River Estate are coming up very fast.
And many more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKbv-X8aq0

What exactly complete and what is rivers estate?

And yes you didn’t exactly tell me what should get me impressed about that video.

rvp2018:
The raw anger - and we just go started. Construction to start this year. Nairobi might become the World Most Dynamic City.

Lol nothing in Kenya can make me angry,and most certainly not a media joke which is still in render just like northland city of Kenyatta and the machakos units noise from 3 years back.