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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 4:03pm On Jan 22, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:09pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
Nairobi Metro is close to 10m - about 7-8M.
Nairobi if allows Slumization (private informal sector) will become another Accra or Lagos in few decades.
The housing sector has to be formalized - pension funds, insurances, big housing companies and gov to provide social housing.
Gov doesnt need money to build houses.
Let use Kibera for example
The slums are in very prime areas - Kibera lies btw Upper hill/Kilimani and Langata/Karen
An acre of land in Kibera would easily sell for 5m dollars - minimum 2 million dollars.
Now kibera is 650 acres.
That land is worth 2-3Billion dollars or about.
Give a chinese developer that land - tell him to squeeze the current 200K Kibera people into 20 percent of the land - and rest to convert for private market rates houses- and pay himself.
200K people probably live in 50K units.
That chinese can develop very basic units for 10K -20 usd each- that is 500M- 1B dollars
So that land is even more valuable - than providing them free houses.
The same can be done in all Nairobi slums.
That will clear backlog of slums.
And gov can start to keep up with social housing needs...

But if Kenya was to continue - we would become Accra - HUGE ENDLESS SLUMPOLIS - where everyone wakes up and build their own thing
Accra and Lagos haven't even gotten close to your level of slumminess.....

You're talking about housing formalization as a big dream for Kenya.... It will never happen in Kenya untill you guys can improve disposable income like in Accra and Lagos..
Untill then ... The slums will keep growing in Kenya
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:11pm On Jan 22, 2022
popizaino:
This is what Ghana needs




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y54DrWsOSOg





Not these.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyvbBdJctas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ajah3pH33g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcvmAhOB1dM
Ghana need more of the ones you've saying we don't need ....
We will not be creating the kind of mess in Nairobi here in Accra.... Doing so will just be like blindly walking into a mess
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:11pm On Jan 22, 2022
Polemics.
Your entire city is a Slumpolis.
That is why your president lifted Nairobi.
The videos are enough evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_-IuyK9SE&t=813s
Just40:
Accra and Lagos haven't even gotten close to your level of slumminess.....

You're talking about housing formalization as a big dream for Kenya.... It will never happen in Kenya untill you guys can improve disposable income like in Accra and Lagos..
Untill then ... The slums will keep growing in Kenya
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:12pm On Jan 22, 2022
That would be a good start. Otherwise they need 10,000 units estates with complete demolition of most of the current city.
popizaino:
This is what Ghana needs




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y54DrWsOSOg





Not these.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyvbBdJctas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ajah3pH33g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcvmAhOB1dM
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 4:15pm On Jan 22, 2022
Just40:
Ghana need more of the ones you've saying we don't need ....
We will not be creating the kind of mess in Nairobi here in Accra.... Doing so will just be like blindly walking into a mess
If Ghana really needs the ones you really think they need, then I don't think discussions like the one below would have ever come up cheesy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gidGXq9AlR8
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:16pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
Polemics.
Your entire city is a Slumpolis.
That is why your president lifted Nairobi.
The videos are enough evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_-IuyK9SE&t=813s
Not according to the facts ....

The fact says that 80% of Nairobi is a slumpolis while in Accra, it stand at only 15 to 18%

You mean the videos the Sammy has been posting? grin grin
Yeah they are evident enough, hence why you guys are even Afraid to post them...
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:16pm On Jan 22, 2022
Like Kagame did in Rwanda's Kigali - Accra for most part need to be demolished - bit per bit - because it cannot fixed

Even if you have good intersection - it's applying lipstick on a pig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1_Y7LfuAo
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:17pm On Jan 22, 2022
You're an alien to facts.
Fact is slum occupy only 2 percent of Nairobi landmass.
So we can demolish them in a single week.

HOW DO YOU FIX THIS? Where do you start? Unless you mean Ghanians do not deserve to live like other humans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1_Y7LfuAo

Just40:
Not according to the facts ....

The fact says that 80% of Nairobi is a slumpolis while in Accra, it stand at only 15 to 18%

You mean the videos the Sammy has been posting? grin grin
Yeah they are evident enough, hence why you guys are even Afraid to post them...
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 4:22pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
That would be a good start. Otherwise they need 10,000 units estates with complete demolition of most of the current city.
I completely agree with you.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:22pm On Jan 22, 2022
popizaino:
If Ghana really needs the ones you really think they need, then I don't discussions like the one below would have ever come up cheesy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gidGXq9AlR8
And do you know why those discussion fizzled....?

Simply because the private sector has created and even better situation which is working business sense wise.

The travel time from Kasoa to Accra without traffic is 45min.
Tema to Accra is 20 minutes when you use the motorway....
How fast do you think it will be like with uninterrupted transport?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:24pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
Like Kagame did in Rwanda's Kigali - Accra for most part need to be demolished - bit per bit - because it cannot fixed

Even if you have good intersection - it's applying lipstick on a pig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1_Y7LfuAo
Boy you will even love to live in this are than 90% of Nairobi...

It's a super beautiful neighborhood than even your *Karen, *Runda and co combine..

You can confer with Popizaino if he know the place.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:26pm On Jan 22, 2022
Their gov already know they got huge problem. That is why it was lifting Nairobi pictures.

He is talking about Kasoa smiley - I saw that huge slumpolis - man it's endless slum after slum after slum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1_Y7LfuAo
popizaino:
If Ghana really needs the ones you really think they need, then I don't think discussions like the one below would have ever come up cheesy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gidGXq9AlR8
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:27pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
You're an alien to facts.
Fact is slum occupy only 2 percent of Nairobi landmass.
So we can demolish them in a single week.

HOW DO YOU FIX THIS? Where do you start? Unless you mean Ghanians do not deserve to live like other humans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1_Y7LfuAo
Nothing need fixing here

When you mention that you live in this area, you get highly respected because the mansion there are all in the million of dollars.
Properly planned with a road after every acre of land grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:27pm On Jan 22, 2022
The madness!
Just40:
Boy you will even love to live in this are than 90% of Nairobi...

It's a super beautiful neighborhood than even your *Karen, *Runda and co combine..

You can confer with Popizaino if he know the place.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:29pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
The madness!
lunatic grin

Same area

You will be lucky to live in a place like this in Nairobi grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWrQHOZkYLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2St0KyzMY7Y
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:30pm On Jan 22, 2022
Which places? Watch the entire video - it's just 10 minutes - in the middle is likes of Kasoa - the whole of Accra is very depressing. It's why other races think lowly of Africans.

Can you really compare to Nairobi? When will you get here? And yet Nairobi is still poor city. We dont even have definition for Accra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RE109_Vii0

Just40:
Nothing need fixing here

When you mention that you live in this area, you get highly respected because the mansion there are all in the million of dollars.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:33pm On Jan 22, 2022
THAT IS AFFORDABLE BASIC HOUSING - luxury smiley smiley That is what we are building for slum dogs.
Just40:
lunatic grin

Same area

You will be lucky to live in a place like this in Nairobi grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWrQHOZkYLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2St0KyzMY7Y
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:35pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
Which places? Watch the entire video - it's just 10 minutes - in the middle is likes of Kasoa - the whole of Accra is very depressing. It's why other races think lowly of Africans.

Can you really compare to Nairobi? When will you get here? And yet Nairobi is still poor city. We dont even have definition for Accra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RE109_Vii0
I've watched it before ....

He has Circle tiptoe lane ... A market
Mallam market and Mallam old town which is a small area around the interchange.

The he Has West Hills mall which in not Kasoa....

Kasoa I also bigger and a better residential area than where 60% of Nairobians live
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:35pm On Jan 22, 2022
Mad cow smiley
Just40:
I've watched it before ....

He has Circle tiptoe lane ... A market
Mallam market and Mallam old town which is a small area around the interchange.

The he Has West Hills mall which in not Kasoa....

Kasoa I also bigger and a better residential area than where 60% of Nairobians live
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:37pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
THAT IS AFFORDABLE BASIC HOUSING - luxury smiley smiley That is what we are building for slum dogs.
which one is affordable basic housing ?

Does the neighborhood look like affordable basic to you

Do you know the kind of mansions built all around that area? grin grin

Boy you will count yourself lucky in Kenya Nairobi if where 80% of you guys live had the kind of beautiful housing and we'll planned like this area.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:39pm On Jan 22, 2022
Entire Area looks less appealing than Pangani affordable housing I showed you.
Just40:
which one is affordable basic housing ?

Does the neighborhood look like affordable basic to you

Do you know the kind of mansions built all around that area? grin grin

Boy you will count yourself lucky in Kenya Nairobi if where 80% of you guys live had the kind of beautiful housing and we'll planned like this area.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:39pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
Mad cow smiley
grin now you are ranting...


Now you can go and watch all the videos Sammy posted here if the neighborhoods in it can even be half as good. grin grin

Even someone like Popizaino will reject living in those places compare to this place...

grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:41pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
Entire Area looks less appealing than Pangani affordable housing I showed you.
except it is more appealing and beautiful than pangani, *Karen and *Runda combine
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 4:43pm On Jan 22, 2022
Just40:
And do you know why those discussion fizzled....?

Simply because the private sector has created and even better situation which is working business sense wise.

The travel time from Kasoa to Accra without traffic is 45min.
Tema to Accra is 20 minutes when you use the motorway....
How fast do you think it will be like with uninterrupted transport?
You know how it works in ghana but you can try and deny it openly. It fizzle because they know their party/Givernment would be at risk,if they try to relocate and demolish structures for such redevelopment. They would lose massive vote of those whose houses might be affected and their sympathizers.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:49pm On Jan 22, 2022
80% of Nairobi built up area looks like this and this is where everyone lives accept for the few who will afford the few nice areas

Nasty and filthy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxp2y7bPLVk
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 4:52pm On Jan 22, 2022
rvp2018:
Their gov already know they got huge problem. That is why it was lifting Nairobi pictures.

He is talking about Kasoa smiley - I saw that huge slumpolis - man it's endless slum after slum after slum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1_Y7LfuAo
Yes the government knows, the citizens themselves knows only just.40 thinks otherwise.

Around September we were driving around Accra with an uncle who just returned from Germany and immediately we saw one multiple story building with about twelve apartment,he immediately said this what we need in ghana not everyone wasting land to build as they like.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:53pm On Jan 22, 2022
popizaino:
You know how it works in ghana but you can try and deny it openly. It fizzle because they know their party/Givernment would be at risk,if they try to relocate and demolish structures for such redevelopment. They would lose massive vote of those whose houses might be affected and their sympathizers.
Exactly so ..... But also they realized that the only place that will be worth demolishing will be just Nima and Mamobi

The tween communities that were allowed to spring up without any plans because we needed somewhere to house IDPs from the Northern conflicts of the 80s 90s
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 4:56pm On Jan 22, 2022
Just40:
Boy you will even love to live in this are than 90% of Nairobi...

It's a super beautiful neighborhood than even your *Karen, *Runda and co combine..

You can confer with Popizaino if he know the place.
Yes it is an entire area filled with beautiful stand alone houses but like the most part of Ghana, you will always finds depressing sight of containers, kiosk, dust to mess up the entire neighbourhood.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:57pm On Jan 22, 2022
popizaino:
Yes the government knows, the citizens themselves knows only just.40 thinks otherwise.

Around September we were driving around Accra with an uncle who just returned from Germany and immediately we saw one multiple story building with about twelve apartment,he immediately said this what we need in ghana not everyone wasting land to build as they like.
do you know why Hollywood, Beverly hills and co never entertain the idea of having group of poor people housings and any form of social housing in their communities?

Just find out and you will know why most communities in Accra will never want that kind of mess after viewing Nairobi
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 5:00pm On Jan 22, 2022
popizaino:
Yes it is an entire area filled with beautiful stand alone houses but like the most part of Ghana, you will always finds depressing sight of containers, kiosk, dust to mess up the entire neighbourhood.
there are no kiosk there and sand on their roads comes from the continuous construction happening around.
But I will be nice to have kiosk shops around that area so people can easily get their favorite candies, biscuits and soft drinks to buy instead of driving to their commercial area.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 5:05pm On Jan 22, 2022
Just40:
Exactly so ..... But also they realized that the only place that will be worth demolishing will be just Nima and Mamobi

The tween communities that were allowed to spring up without any plans because we needed somewhere to house IDPs from the Northern conflicts of the 80s 90s
Many areas are worth demolishing but that's a discussion for another day.
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