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FBS:
It was my birthday and then I heard the news that my uncle (best man I know) stopped breathing just before they got to the hospital. I am absolutely shattered that I can't express myself. Still can't believe it.
We usually call each other because his birthday is just a day before mine. I called him, we talked, laughed as usual and......





Always cherish the gift of life.

swiz123:
Those comments were reinforced by the transfer ban which made me lenient with your fraudster.

It became obvious that the scammer was out to destroy our club when we invested heavily in our squad with nothing to show for it -- a squad which immediately won the UCL with no additional investment.

I have seen my mistake, especially when Jorginho was lifting all manner of awards while Lampfraud was rightfully jobless.

Ibime:
Lampfraud made everyone bad yet you cursed Sarri for signing them and labelled them crap under Sarri and some under Conte

You better shut up when reasonable people are discussing

Ibime:
I won't keep repeating myself. If you have been on this thread and don't know that my requirement for a DM is one that allows his team to station high up the pitch and also comfortable receiving and giving the ball (under any circumstances, not just when the press is light like Jogginghoe), I can't repeat myself.

Below is what a knowledgeable member of this thread said about Jogginghoes impact on our play and what happens when any manager tries to go toe to toe with Jogginghoe in midfield. So there is no obsession on my part, only the truth
Reason I said TT is over performing because this low block is the maximum you can get out of the players at our disposal

Segedinho:
And who was he protesting when both kovacic and Kante started.?

Or

Why is he still protecting the mid when both Kante and kovacic are fit

donjazet:
This is all semantics, aimless scapegoating and emotional ranting from a fan after a match.
I do acknowledge when jorginho has a bad game. Now do YOU acknowledge when he has a good game?? Has there been any game you said, jorginho was wonderful today. What an exceptional performance, hopes he keeps it up.

You still did not answer my earliest question?
What are the tangible metrics to know your ideal DM? And who is currently your best and ideal DM in the game?

Ibime:
Shut up. You saw Chris and Rudiger under Conte and Sarri and labelled them useless

You saw Jogginghoe under Sarri and labelled him not fit to be a footballer.

You saw Lukaku score few goals and started hyping that you are sure Chelsea will win the league and shut Jogginghoe haters up, believing that Lukaku will score the goals needed to get the job done. Now Lukaku is the source of all your woes.

You think calling Lampard name will absolve you.

Now today you change mouth again. Not surprising for someone unsure of their gender

I would rather discuss with likes of Timbros and Donjazet who have always been Jogginghoe fans even when he was getting pilloried daily because they genuinely have a different orientation as to their expectations from a DM, than a flip flopper like you

swiz123:
My opinion can change to keep up the current realities. I always knew that Lukaku was an imbecille but I thought he had improved because of my negligible interest in the farmer's league he came from. Now he is a Chelsea player and I have critically analysed him and I find his weakness detrimental to our collective success.

This is football, players can regress or improve;why can't opinions about them change. Jorginho gave me an L and I peacefully took. In fact, I wish every Chelsea player I have criticized will give me an L.

Only an obese lunatic would expect no improvement from a player they don't like because they are egotistically stupid to ever fault their own opinion.

swiz123:
You were happy for Chelsea to get Morata who was being benched at Madrid in place of Lukaku who was a premier league proven performer. More so, knowing fully well that Conte's tactics works with a strong and fast centre forward.

Ibime:
I'm sure you know that a team that trains a certain way for a year with all players responsibilities mapped out, even how the wing-backs will make their runs and how to find them, won't change set-up overnight without a sustained period of training in the new set-up. And we still have the Alonso factor which is a contributor.

swiz123:
My opinion can change to keep up the current realities. I always knew that Lukaku was an imbecille but I thought he had improved because of my negligible interest in the farmer's league he came from. Now he is a Chelsea player and I have critically analysed him and I find his weakness detrimental to our collective success.

This is football, players can regress or improve;why can't opinions about them change. Jorginho gave me an L and I peacefully took. In fact, I wish every Chelsea player I have criticized will give me an L.

Only an obese lunatic would expect no improvement from a player they don't like because they are egotistically stupid to ever fault their own opinion.

swiz123:
My opinion can change to keep up the current realities. [b]I always knew that Lukaku was an imbecille [/b]but I thought he had improved because of my negligible interest in the farmer's league he came from. Now he is a Chelsea player and I have critically analysed him and I find his weakness detrimental to our collective success.

This is football, players can regress or improve;why can't opinions about them change. Jorginho gave me an L and I peacefully took. In fact, I wish every Chelsea player I have criticized will give me an L.

Only an obese lunatic would expect no improvement from a player they don't like because they are egotistically stupid to ever fault their own opinion.

Ibime:
Shut up. So your opinion changed in one summer.

Now you are claiming it's farmers league that made you like Lukaku as if Lukaku has not performed consistently in EPL.

Even in Lukakus supposed poor spell at Manure, he scored 27 goals in a season. You claimed Lukakus lack of movement is our problem but he has more than doubled the goal output of Havertz you told us is one of the most intelligent movers in the game, while playing similar minutes.

You better keep quiet because we don't know whether what you are saying now will change by next week. Someone who will call Jogginghoe not fit to be a footballer in December and hail him the best thing since sliced bread in January

Almajirihunter:
Including the headless chicken Pount

swiz123:
I have always been skeptical of Lukaku. Even when I said we should sign him, I was just being hopeful since we couldn't get our first choice target.

I have watched Lukaku closely since his time at Utd and I was never impressed with his general game play. You can score goals but the team won't achieve anything due to the way you play... That's just the case with Lukaku. Being pummeled out of the UCL by Shaktar Donestk and Mochenglabach while dominating in an inferior league should have been clue enough. I was even more convinced when he bullying small teams in the Euros but couldn't even make Bonucci and Chielini break a sweat.

Jorginho is intelligent, and I love intelligence by default. He found a way to adapt and stay competitive, such traits should be applauded.

swiz123:
I also believe Chelsea are favorites to win the league. They have the fire power

Ibime:
Your major problem is you play a low block to protect an incompetent DM, and never have enough forward players in the attacking phase.

Almajirihunter:
So he might not be a fat imbecille again in 6 months

Ibime:
Shut up. You saw Chris and Rudiger under Conte and Sarri and labelled them useless

You saw Jogginghoe under Sarri and labelled him not fit to be a footballer.

You saw Lukaku score few goals and started hyping that you are sure Chelsea will win the league and shut Jogginghoe haters up, believing that Lukaku will score the goals needed to get the job done. Now Lukaku is the source of all your woes.

You think calling Lampard name will absolve you.

Now today you change mouth again. Not surprising for someone unsure of their gender

I would rather discuss with likes of Timbros and Donjazet who have always been Jogginghoe fans even when he was getting pilloried daily because they genuinely have a different orientation as to their expectations from a DM, than a flip flopper like you

Ibime:
Even his father Sarri had to park double decker bus in Carling Cup final, a week after getting pummeled 6-0 by Man City and losing scandalously to Bournemouth and Arsenal when they targetted Jogginghoe. Those goals Abraham scored under Lampard were those run of games we played attacking, after each midfield failure that precipitated a change to a low block, the goals dried up.

lordfalcao:
even during sarri time we had embarrassing score lines like when watford beat us 4-1

Ibime:
Exactly, we had many including Bournemouth 4-0, City 6-0, Arsenal 2-0. That was when we discovered we can never go toe to toe with other teams consistently with Jogginghoe in our midfield, and all the records since have confirmed it. Jogginghoe limits.us to a bus parking team at best, and an inconsistent and easy-to-beat team if we try to play attacking.

Ibime:
Exactly, we had many including Bournemouth 4-0, City 6-0, Arsenal 2-0. That was when we discovered we can never go toe to toe with other teams consistently with Jogginghoe in our midfield, and all the records since have confirmed it. Jogginghoe limits us to a bus parking team at best, and an inconsistent and easy-to-beat team if we try to play attacking. This is non negotiable for a club like Chelsea

Almajirihunter:
After 23 league games, na here we dey

lordfalcao:
oga rest.

I meant even during conte tenure we had embarrassing score line.

Watford beat us 4-1 who was the dms then.

Before Jorginho came this club has been having embarrassing score line ..

Who were the DM’s involved?

Or should I list the embarrassing score lines we have had at least each season before Jorginho came

swiz123:
You should have noticed that Lukaku is minus one when we face a decent team... How can we compete with such a striker?

FBS:
It was my birthday and then I heard the news that my uncle (best man I know) stopped breathing just before they got to the hospital. I am absolutely shattered that I can't express myself. Still can't believe it.
We usually call each other because his birthday is just a day before mine. I called him, we talked, laughed as usual and......





Always cherish the gift of life.

reccy:
I'm beginning to see reason to what ibime is saying. Way before, I was part of those who thought that he was just hating or being unecessary bias, but after relating his point here to what I watch, omoh, I see correlations and these are very detrimental to any serious title contending team having Liverpool and man city to contend with.

Truly, ibime is not hating, He Is just bringing fact to why we keep failing to win league giving the investment we've made. If you want to see an attacking chelsea and an highline chelsea playing, there is needs for us to have a standard DM who is quick, transitive and fit enough to take risk while neutralising any form of threats from opposition.

This, no doubt, has an effect on our attackers and strikers being poor all season which inevitably has a resultant effect on overall Chelsea performance.

I called one of my guy to the arguments here especially the ibime and co, and also havertz and mount's. He Is yet to come in term with the jorginho's ineptitude which is causing us a lot. To him, jorginho is the best register and is the best thing after the fruit of garden.

I enjoy it when people are able to see beyond stats and call out any player for their negligence.

Ibime:
This has been my only point ever since. All this talks back and forth boils down to one single point. We can't play attacking football consistently with Jogginghoe. We have plenty evidence of failing to do so for four years and only evidence of Jogginghoe success we have was parking bus in tournament football

Ibime:
Why does it matter acknowledging if he has a good game when the good games are not consistent, and not in a set-up I believe will challenge for the league, and the consistency drops dramatically when the set-up I believe is vital to challenge for the league is deployed.