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Truthisunique3:
Yoruba Muslim no go hear this one

That dude close to that white woman look like shina peller..

gypsey:
Yes! I do! try me and see! This is what some of you don't get!

I want to witness this so call ritual money so that people like you will not keep coming on here to peddle your bloody lies.

Stop saying your cos I don't believe In that nonsense too..
But where are you really gonna see a human head?

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Stop saying your cos I don't believe In that nonsense too..
But where are you really gonna see a human head?

Well.. that is the same made up mistery they are peddling about ritual money, you see how curious you have become?

When people are curious,.desparate, greedy, poor, ignorant and gullible it's ussually easy to make them believe anything.. and they are also vulnerable to scams like money rituals.

gypsey:
Well.. that is the same made up mistery they are peddling about ritual money, you see how curious you have become?

When people are curious,.desparate, poor, ignorant and gullible it's ussually easy to make them believe anything.. and they are also vulnerable to scams like money rituals.

Exactly..

backbone503:
Why then do they mine skulls?

As long as the philosophy of ise kekere owo pupo still persists among Yorubas skull mining will never cease.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Exactly..

Now, do you think i would be able to obtain a dozen human heads?

gypsey:
Now, do you think i would be able to obtain a dozen human heads?

Nope you won't.. never..

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Nope you won't.. never..

Exactly! your head is correct. but some people would believe that i would that is the irony of it all

gypsey:
Exactly! your head is correct. but some people would believe that i would that is the irony of it all

You made a great point...I really wish people could do away with that mentality..

gypsey:
Yea! Keep telling yourself that rubbish, have you ever seen a spirit? what kinda beer does a spirit drinks? Is it an American spirit or a German spirit? i have been looking every where for spirits al my life i still haven't met one forking spirit.
Inbox me, i will meet up with you so you can show me this guy called spirit i am desparate to meet her or is it him? If you cannot do that then......

So you think spirits are humans that will just come out to face you simply because you challenged them shey?
I'm sorry for you!

Meanwhile human's are going extinct in Ogun because of money

dollynnn:

As if some of them have not been doing it for people.
Anyway,the rate at which money rituals is skyrocketing is alarming and dangerous!
Females, especially , are now endangered species which may soon go into extinction if care is not taken. Government should clamp down on all these ritualists disguising as "yahoo-boys" and effect the arrest of these useless herbalists under whatever shade of disguise they have hidden themselves. People should report suspicious activities to the Police too.
Females should also do the needful.
And lastly, parents should wake up and be more responsive and alive to the huge responsibilities on their shoulders . Illegal wealth or ill-gotten wealth should not in any way be encouraged..

Don't get it wrong. No genuine Babalawo will use human for sacrifice for wealth for anybody. There are different professions under the Yoruba spiritual tradition. The culprits are usually the Oniseguns. The Onisegun is the medicine man who has deep knowledge of the art of mixing one natural item or the other to get specific outcome. What is common these days is that the sacred knowledge has fallen into wrong hands, usually the children of original Oniseguns, who are often not well versed as their fathers, and are greedy. They know they shouldn't do it because human parts is never among whats in their knowledge book. But they work on the wrong assumption that human parts will have more efficacy than plants and animal parts.

As an Ifa adherent myself, though not a Babalawo, I know the number of trivial wrongs I must never do which was spelt out to me by Ifa. For example, I must never be vengeful against anyone, meaning if someone does something against me, I simply suck it up and look away. So, how in the world would a spiritual system that preach tolerance, patience, and peace accommodate that high level of evil. No it doesn't. It's because some of our people are evil minded. As Ifa says "Meji meji la da Ile aye" Meaning this is a world of duality, and that every human has a good and evil side. So, these evil people are simply expressing the evil side of their nature because of their greed.

Dayvidblue:
As long as the philosophy of ise kekere owo pupo still persists among Yorubas skull mining will never cease.

There is nothing wrong with the Yoruba analogy of "Ise kekere, owo pupo". First, let us dissect what it mean. It mean "bountiful rewards from one's modest effort". When you work or do business, at the end the day, you expect to make money. It's just a prayer of blessing for our moderate effort. This doesn't come to everyone. We know there are times we try things in life and multiple goods follow in a way that seem we don't deserve it because we didn't put too much work for it. It's just a prayer of luck. Since the word "Ise" (i.e. work) is included as part of the expression, it mean one is expected to work. So, try to understand it clearly.

MaxInDHouse:
Please don't let anyone deceive you, money ritual is REAL but it's the proceedings that's difficult due to the target of the spirits involved.
Most people don't know that all what they need to get such riches is to prove how desperately they are willing to let go of anything in exchange for wealth. Revelations 13:16-18

It's just a pity that no one claiming atheist can get it, even those who don't believe in God but disguising among true believers can't make it because Satan doesn't need their souls, the souls precious to the forces of light and darkness are the loyal ones and since an atheist is not loyal to anyone those demons see them exactly the same way Jesus views them: "WALKING CORPSE" Matthew 8:22

But whenever a true believer falls spiritually all the demons are ready to grab him and give him anything he wish as long as he will vow with his life never to return to Jesus. As for anyone without faith even if he/she is invited among them they're going to make use of his or her body parts there!

Nailed it means I support your view

ajl:
Don't get it wrong. No genuine Babalawo will use human for sacrifice for wealth for anybody. There are different professions under the Yoruba spiritual tradition. The culprits are usually the Oniseguns. The Onisegun is the medicine man who has deep knowledge of the art of mixing one natural item or the other to get specific outcome. What is common these days is that the sacred knowledge has fallen into wrong hands, usually the children of original Oniseguns, who are often not well versed as their fathers, and are greedy. They know they shouldn't do it because human parts is never among whats in their knowledge book. But they work on the wrong assumption that human parts will have more efficacy than plants and animal parts.

As an Ifa adherent myself, though not a Babalawo, I know the number of trivial wrongs I must never do which was spelt out to me by Ifa. For example, I must never be vengeful against anyone, meaning if someone does something against me, I simply suck it up and look away. So, how in the world would a spiritual system that preach tolerance, patience, and peace accommodate that high level of evil. No it doesn't. It's because some of our people are evil minded. As Ifa says "Meji meji la da Ile aye" Meaning this is a world of duality, and that every human has a good and evil side. So, these evil people are simply expressing the evil side of their nature because of their greed.

Noted. Thanks!

Liars

Fortune109:
Nailed it means I support your view

Got you my friend, i just pity this faithless idiots claiming "atheists" asking if spirits will appear to them for the fun of it!

MaxInDHouse:
ATHEISTS!
I know you guys are saying all these in order for someone to take you to where you can get the confirm one but nobody will show you where original money ritual could be found so doubt it from today till you die money ritual is real but those giving out the riches (Satan, demons and their human agents) deal with people on various levels.
For example all what Jesus need to do before Satan will give him all the riches in the world and their glory is just to bow down and worship Satan! Luke 4:5-7
But to humans who don't know how much that could mean Satan will demand something else, all he wanted is to make his costumer admit that you must turn your back on God.

So it's not the human body parts that's of any value in the spirit realms but your integrity as human to be destroyed as in kill your conscience so that you feel like doing anything even if it will make God annoyed after all He (God) hasn't given you what you want. That's the secret!
No atheist can get such opportunity from Satan because you're worthless already before God unlike a faithful believer whose existence meant so much in the eyes of the true God! Job 1:8

This your explanation is superb.

Even though I'm a Muslim, I find it very meaningful.

MaxInDHouse:
So you think spirits are humans that will just come out to face you simply because you challenged them shey?
I'm sorry for you!

Well... if spirits cannot show their faces then that means they do not exist. Have you ever met a spirit? If you have tell me what they looked like. But i can bet my left balls you have never met a spirit, you are just imagining it in ya head.

And why can't i challenge spirits? What is so special about them? You have managed to make yourself believe that one invisible guy called spirits exists some where in neverland.

You have been watching too many african movies co's that is all they act in their rubbish they call movies.
Sorry for yourself.

Which Yoruba tradition? Even without the light of Christ, you and I both know those who do that are evil. Evil is not Yoruba's tradition. Regard and cherishing human lives are some of the Omoluabi philosophies. Human sacrifice is the tradition of those who are involved in dark arts. Since the days of human existence, we have known that even in a "holy nation", we have people who shed innocent blood to gain power, wealth, and influence (a minute percent of the population). This evil knowledge is passed to some in their conclave. It is a secret of the dark. That is why they are called ika (wicked).

I can't remember my parents teaching me that it's the tradition, nor his fathers before him.

Those who engage in such had to journey far and contact mediums (spirits), not even herbs. So, saying it is the tradition is inaccurate because there is no difference between them and musicians who allegedly sell their souls for fame in Hollywood.

JuanDeDios:
Yes, Ifa is against human sacrifice, but Yoruba tradition is not. We need to admits some truths to ourselves and work for reforms.

Is it part of Christianity or Islam for grown adult men to have sex with small boys?

Does this happen?

Even at very high levels involving clerics?
Yes


There are scandals every week of the year involving the Catholic church and Alfas .
In their own case it is "bad eggs" but what is our onw, our ancestor's own is "traditional" and wrong.

Wake up .

Matter arising

Moferere:
This is not news.
How government watch this people thrive is baffling

Those in government are patronizing them

We are simply the joke the whole world is laughing at. Some people will come back to explain how useless their wealth has been in the face of global pandemic, natural disaster and terrorism. Las las all of us go dey alright. Sooner or later some people will be begging for their billions to be taken away just to have their lives back. As they are being slaughtered and burnt to ashes right on the alter of their over hyped "god". Love your neighbour as yourself share the little you have they will never listen.

Sheer wickedness and man inhumanity to the other person.

What is it in a human body - blood, eyes, breast, vjay jay that can turn to money? Absolute lies from the pit of hell! Sheer fake nonsense!

They are just wasting someone's Iife and will never tell you the real source of their money - but most people know they are doing something else that brings money.

Those who became rich are into something else such as selling hard drugs and other daily activities or businesses.

Some are scammers who scammed Americans and European of their hard work.

They continue to perpetrate diabolical myth for the purpose of getting paid themselves. Just look at the jazzman, he only has money to eat eba and soup. Why is he not building mansions all over the country from the ritual if it is that real ?

Nigerians, don't use your talents, intellectual ability and brain! Keep killing others for fake sacrifices for illusionary wealth

Cunny man die, cunny man bury him.

Ademola47:
This your explanation is superb.
Even though I'm a Muslim, I find it very meaningful.

These atheists are really dumb!
If an intelligent observer wants to know something the first line of action is to study carefully and find out what exactly is behind this thing. We are all humans with working brains nah. Even if we haven't seen spirits we have seen their presence when magicians are performing. So one needs not deceive himself there is more to magic than simple tricks!

When Satan (the head of all wicked spirits) wanted to tempt Jesus he didn't just walk up to him saying "i'm Satan the devil and i've come to tempt you"
NO! Satan pretended to be an angel of God.
Jesus has been in the presence of God Almighty for over 40 days receiving information on how he will spend the rest of his days on the earth and after God's spirit left Satan immediately came around speaking as if it's still that same spirit of God!
The first thing he told Jesus was:
"Now it's been over 40 days that you've not eating can't you turn a stone to food and quench this hunger?"
Jesus' response shows that he doesn't depend on physical food for survival.
Satan again told him:
"See where you are from home, instead of trekking all the way from this high place round the village, why not jump? After all you're a special person, angels will not allow you fall!
Jesus' response again shows that he's not going to test his God whom he has knew to be tested and trusted.
Lastly Satan couldn't take it anymore but to come out openly:
"Worship me now, and all the things you're going to work hard to get will be yours immediately"

Haha! Jesus now got the identify of the spirit speaking to him!

This same thing happened to King David but because he isn't a perfect person like Jesus he fell easily! 2Samuel 24:1-3 compare to 1Chronicles 21:1
The voice David heard was like God's voice yet it was Satan!
So it takes great discernment to decipher such topics but atheists just imagine it's all about what they can see!

gypsey:
Well... if spirits cannot show their faces then that means they do not exist. Have you ever met a spirit? If you have tell me what they looked like. But i can bet my left balls you have never met a spirit, you are just imagining it in ya head. And why can't i challenge spirits? What is so special about them? You have managed to make yourself believe that one invisible guy called spirits exists some where in neverland.
You have been watching too many african movies co's that is all they act in their rubbish they call movies.
Sorry for yourself.

This one pass your level my guy so go and study what you can SEE!

gypsey:
Well... if spirits cannot show their faces then that means they do not exist. Have you ever met a spirit? If you have tell me what they looked like. But i can bet my left balls you have never met a spirit, you are just imagining it in ya head.

And why can't i challenge spirits? What is so special about them? You have managed to make yourself believe that one invisible guy called spirits exists some where in neverland.

You have been watching too many african movies co's that is all they act in their rubbish they call movies.
Sorry for yourself.

If you want to put the world of the unknown to test, try this and come back to share your experience. Go to a very popular open-air market that operates at night when it get a bit dark. You know those markets where you find sellers of pepper and tomatoes with naked kerosene lanterns. Once there, find any where you can stand with you backing a part of the market. Then, bend down without kneeling and take a view of the market in-between your wide open legs. Come back here to share what you see.

aribisala0:
Nollywood need to self censure. There is no doubt the role of Nollywood etc in propagating these ridiculous belief systems

True!

Isn't the process you just wanted her to do Yoga ?

So doing it you see the spirit walking ?

ajl:
If you want to put the world of the unknown to test, try this and come back to share your experience. Go to a very popular open-air market that operates at night when it get a bit dark. You know those markets where you find sellers of pepper and tomatoes with naked kerosene lanterns. Once there, find any where you can stand with you backing a part of the market. Then, bend down without kneeling and take a view of the market in-between your wide open legs. Come back here to share what you see.

twosquare:
Which Yoruba tradition? Even without the light of Christ, you and I both know those who do that are evil. Evil is not Yoruba's tradition. Regard and cherishing human lives are some of the Omoluabi philosophies. Human sacrifice is the tradition of those who are involved in dark arts. Since the days of human existence, we have known that even in a "holy nation", we have people who shed innocent blood to gain power, wealth, and influence (a minute percent of the population). This evil knowledge is passed to some in their conclave. It is a secret of the dark. That is why they are called ika (wicked).

I can't remember my parents teaching me that it's the tradition, nor his fathers before him.

Those who engage in such had to journey far and contact mediums (spirits), not even herbs. So, saying it is the tradition is inaccurate because there is no difference between them and musicians who allegedly sell their souls for fame in Hollywood.

Even in 2022, many Yoruba communities still declare Oro, which often involves human sacrifice. This is the tradition. We have to admit it. And then work to reform it. Oro, Eleku and similar "dark" traditions need to be reformed. We should be able to continue our traditions but reform them to eliminate murder and other acts of savagery.

JuanDeDios:
Even in 2022, many Yoruba communities still declare Oro, which often involves human sacrifice. This is the tradition. We have to admit it. And then work to reform it. Oro, Eleku and similar "dark" traditions need to be reformed. We should be able to continue our traditions but reform them to eliminate murder and other acts of savagery.

lol...Oro doesn't involve human sacrifice, please. It is just "traditional practice" to ward of and scare away evil spirits similar to incense burning, evil, and bad elements.