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MaxInDHouse:
He thought it's easy to create a character that's so lofty in morals and standards with heart filled with LOVE and COMPASSION by pagans who doesn't have any regard for such standards!

oteneaaron:
But if you go down history's lane you will find out that Jesus of the bible in reality, is not really as unique as we were meant to believe.

Go and do your research about other "Christo Messiah" figures from many cultures of antiquity that are way older than Jesus and Christianity for example, Horus, Dionysus, Zoroaster, and Mithras (you can start from these ones)...

You will find out that the birth, life and story of a Jesus, is an exact copy of these older "Christos Messiah" figures from antiquity.

To help in your research, download and study these books - -

1. Who is this King of Glory? By Alvin Boyd Khun

2. Misqoting Jesus by Bart D. Ehrman

3. The Pagan Christ by Tom Hapur

Do yourself a favor, take sometime and read these books written by world-renowned religious historians.

Remember that when you do research, you are doing it for yourself, and not for anybody else.

We all owe it to ourselves to ask questions and do research to find out why we are doing exactly what we are doing.

We must question everything we have been led to believe.

There is no need to be scared of what you will find out during and after your research, because there are only TWO possibilities -

1. It is either you realize that all you have been taught to believe all your life has been a big fat lie, or

2. The information you will garner from this research, will make your faith as a Christian and belief in your God even firmly rooted.

Are you willing to take this challenge?

Download the three books I mentioned above, study it and if you want, you can create a thread to either support or dispute your findings from any of these books.

Are willing to take up this challenge??

oteneaaron:
In this little write-up, these terms would have their meaning in Context as follows:

GOD-- Signifies the "supreme being" from any religion ( Yahweh, Allah, Buhdda, Sango, Krishna, Oduduwa, Owoicho........etc)

MAN-- Signifies You and I ; all humans existing and non-existing(HUMANITY as a whole)

RELIGION-- signifies all of the worlds religion (after-all they are all products of the same factory)



WHO CREATED GOD??

Its no wonder that when you ask he above question to any religious minded person and you're gonna get differing answers.

Ask any creationist : "What is the proof that Man was created ? " , "how do we know that life and all there is had a designer?"

And we receive this reply that -- Man and all there is are intelligent creatures ; the human brain, the universe in general attest to the fact that everything was created by a Supreme Being...

*Please note the argument - an intelligent creation must have an intelligent designer-

So here is the correlation, If you seriously believe that "nothing came from nothing" and there has to be an explanation for our "intelligence",
then GOD must have been created too!!!

WHY?

"GOD" exists and he is very ( if not too Intelligent---common, he's GOD!!).....so what is the explanation for his Intelligence??

If the world as we know it attests to fact of the existence of a creator, then that creator must have been created because HE(GOD) bears the same (proof of an Intelligent creator) Qualities.

Now who created GOD??


Sadly, the answer has been right in Front of Us all this time........

WE created GOD!! You and I , MAN.....

When we were perplexed as to how the universe was sparse and awe-inspiring, we had to give credit to -someone- so we invented GOD

When were Scared because we felt or experience disappointment, death, sickness..etc, we needed Solace and we created GOD to blame and to beg for assistance

When we felt the need to Control our fellow MAN, we created GOD and religion to keep humans in check , after-all they must all answer to our creation -GOD-

GET IT RIGHT...

We created GOD


Now, our creation of GOD may have been a necessary evil, and MAN is growing up....the time has come for us to let go of Childish things!!

MaxInDHouse:
With the below post you have won already so need for further discussion!

oteneaaron:
Hahahahahahahaha
Blackmail will not work this time around.
Are you willing to take up the challenge to take some time off Nairaland, to download those books I mentioned and actually do this research for real?
What do you stand to lose?
Remember, only two things will happen.
Our are you just a scared little ignorant old man who cannot take a few hours off Nairaland to actually sit his as-s down and read a book that explicitly talks about the history of the religion he professes?
Are you willing to take up the challenge?

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, there thousands of commentators on Nairaland who claims they believe in Jesus so take your challenge to them, i'm OK with the fact that you created your own God!

oteneaaron:
So are you actually a scared little ignorant old man who will NOT do simple research?
I have made it very easy for you.
Just download and read.
Or do you want me to give you the download link?
I am taking my challenge to you.
What are you scared of?

MaxInDHouse:
The title "GOD" connotes a "SUPREME BEING"
So since you can create a supreme being on your own what else is there to argue with you?

My friend, go and sleep my time is precious to me!

oteneaaron:
Lol.
Why are you dodging my challenge?
I am not arguing with you.
The other day you called yourself an intellectual.
Plus you are even a retired military intelligence officer.
Research should be fun for you!
What are you scared of?
I have made it very easy for you - download those books, take a break off Nairaland, sit your old as-s down and study!!
Are you willing to take the challenege?

MaxInDHouse:
Now i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses (true disciples of Christ) my time is really precious to me now:

Be very careful, then, how you live —not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. Ephesians 5:15-16

Jesus didn't ask me to go wasting time with people who feel they are creators of God rather he sent me to go in search of people who are willing to surrender to God! Matthew 10:6

That's why you're a waste of time to me!

oteneaaron:
Lol.
This is not about Me.
You are doing this research for yourself.
So are you calling doing actual research a waste of time?
This is interesting.
Now everyone can see you for what you truly are.
I ask again, what you sacred of?

oteneaaron:
Hahahahaha
I am enjoying BENEFITS that are way beyond your wildest imaginations.

oteneaaron:
Lol.

This is not about Me.

You are doing this research for yourself.

So are you calling doing actual research a waste of time?

This is interesting.

Now everyone can see you for what you truly are.

I ask again, what you sacred of?

MindHacker9000:
I have a feeling the guy knows the truth but he does not want to let his gullible followers go. Only GOD can set his gullible followers free.

EyeHateGod:
Religious people don't understand the amount of hate in their heart. That's one reason you should embrace Atheism.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!

Well your friend knew that i'm a follower of an organization where all of us look onto few men who in turn look onto an invisible mighty spirit King who in turn looks onto Almighty God.
So you missed it big time my friend i have no followers, perhaps on Nairaland sha!

MaxInDHouse:
Are you ready to list the BENEFITS of your so called research now?
I'm not interested in time wasting, if there's anything that will take a second of my life it should be something BENEFITIAL.
So list the benefits and let me see if it worths it!

MindHacker9000:
I have a feeling the guy knows the truth but he does not want to let his gullible followers go. Only GOD can set his gullible followers free.

oteneaaron:
Chale,

He knows not the truth, but only the LIES he has been consistently indoctrinated to believe.

He is just a little old man who is scared of doing research about the true origins of his religion.

He prefers the trickles of information is been spoon fed by the leaders of his cult cum religion.

Until the day he will be bold enough to get his hands dirty and do this research for himself, he will keep running around in circles, dancing naked on the streets of Nairaland showcasing his deep level of indoctrination and unattractive ignorance.

@MaxinDhouse are you ready to take up the challenge??

MindHacker9000:
You are worse than an atheist, because you teaching FAKE gospels which GOD did not write, on like the Ten Commandments GOD gave to Moses and also made him to write it too, this was hundreds of years before your FAKE gospels and your Massiah though He could walk on water, turn water to wine, feed 5000 people, see the past and the future and more but could not write a simple book of what He was teaching, shows that you are not yet ready to come out of your slumber.

oteneaaron:
Not feeling boxed in a corner are you?
Remember this research is not for me.
You are doing this for your ignorant self.
Unless this means you are too scared to take time off Nairaland to do some actual freaking research.
It is now clear to everyone on this thread that you @MaxinDhouse has called doing a honest research of the historicity of your religion, a waste of time.
How else will people understand the truth about their religion or any endeavor in life if they do not do research?
I even made it easy for you and listed just three books that you can start with.
What do you stand to lose?
I didn't write these books, world-renowned religious historians did.
These are men who have spent their whole lives studying religion (especially Christianity).
Tom Harpur who wrote the book - The Pagan Christ, is a still an active Jesuit priest. **
**Please note - -
I made an error above - - Tom Hapur was actually a former Anglican Priest.
He is also a Rhodes Scholar and a Professor of Greek and New Testament at the University of Toronto.
These writers have had access to ancient manuscripts of scriptures that many of us will only dream of ever reading.
But they have done the grunt of the work, all we have to do is read, study and hear their own side of this argument -
Is the life and story of Jesus in the Bible unique to only Christianity, or is his story an exact copy of many other similar "Christo Messiah" figures all through different cultures of antiquity?
How will you understand or answer this question if you do not do this research for yourself?
How do you a grown as-s man, at your age, after everything you have seen in this life, be expecting another man to do research for you?
This is a favor you must do for YOURSELF.
I repeat - download those books, take a break off Nairaland, sit your old as-s down, and study!!
Are you ready to take up this challenge?

oteneaaron:
Lol.

Why are you dodging my challenge?

I am not arguing with you.

The other day you called yourself an intellectual.

Plus you are even a retired military intelligence officer.

Research should be fun for you!

What are you scared of?

I have made it very easy for you - download those books, take a break off Nairaland, sit your old as-s down and study!!

Are you willing to take the challenege?

cornelboy:
Mr man na by force?
Stick to your boolshits na.
We JWs 100% believe in the Bible. We also believe God exists and He created the universe.
Without the Bible or GOD there wouldn't be anything like morals today

MaxInDHouse:
I noticed the cordiality between you and you friend, it's like both of you agreed on reasoning so can you try help him out with the question?
What are the BENEFITS of your research?

MindHacker9000:
This youtube video has loads of research findings by top historical researchers if you have data to watch the whole video. Rome already had the library of Aristotle before they conquered Israel and it does make sense for them to take the library of the Temple Old Testament scrolls from Jerusalem to Rome and keep it in their secret chamber from where they wrote the New Testament and created a FAKE Jewish Messiah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

In the video it says the Romans took the original Old Testament Scrolls away from the the Temple in Jerusalem and kept it in the private chambers of their palace in Rome where no one was allowed to see it.

cornelboy:
A fact that cannot be proved right?
Could the Romans have preached message about love: loving God and loving your neighbours and enemies? cheesy

MaxInDHouse:
What is the difference between MaxInDHouse and the mad woman in the picture?
She's carrying luggages on her head but others around her don't know the usefulness of her loads?


Satan is just using this fabricated stories to block you from getting the BENEFITS of being one of Jesus' disciples!

So tell me what you're BENEFITTING from this false stories!

MindHacker9000:
Posting such a picture shows you are the one that is raving mad and mentally ill due to your insinuation of a FAKE man made messiah that could not keep his promise to save even the elect he promised to come back for after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD.
“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. Matthew 24:22
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Matthew 24:30-31
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened..Matthew 24:34

oteneaaron:
But if you go down history's lane you will find out that Jesus of the bible in reality, is not really as unique as we were meant to believe.

Go and do your research about other "Christo Messiah" figures from many cultures of antiquity that are way older than Jesus and Christianity for example, Horus, Dionysus, Zoroaster, and Mithras (you can start from these ones)...

You will find out that the birth, life and story of a Jesus, is an exact copy of these older "Christos Messiah" figures from antiquity.

To help in your research, download and study these books - -

1. Who is this King of Glory? By Alvin Boyd Khun

2. Misqoting Jesus by Bart D. Ehrman

3. The Pagan Christ by Tom Hapur

Do yourself a favor, take sometime and read these books written by world-renowned religious historians.

Remember that when you do research, you are doing it for yourself, and not for anybody else.

We all owe it to ourselves to ask questions and do research to find out why we are doing exactly what we are doing.

We must question everything we have been led to believe.

There is no need to be scared of what you will find out during and after your research, because there are only TWO possibilities -

1. It is either you realize that all you have been taught to believe all your life has been a big fat lie, or

2. The information you will garner from this research, will make your faith as a Christian and belief in your God even firmly rooted.

Are you willing to take this challenge?

Download the three books I mentioned above, study it and if you want, you can create a thread to either support or dispute your findings from any of these books.

Are willing to take up this challenge??

MindHacker9000:
The Romans already had the teaching of Aristotle on how to be good to others centuries before they conquered Israel, so for your information doing good to others did not start from the New Testament. The Romans brought European civilization of that time to Israel. Stoning a woman for Adultery was not recorded in the New Testament and the Jews were not allowed to carry out the punishment in their Law like stoning people for picking sticks on a sabbath. The crucifixion is a Roman punishment for anyone that tries to rise up against Roman occupation to deter others from doing so.
Pilate said, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.” “But we have no right to execute anyone,” they objected. (John 18:31 NIV)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csIW4W_DYX4

LordReed:
He is not going to read any book his cult hasn't approved and definitely not any one that seems to be critical of the foundations of his beliefs. He needs to maintain his illusions after all.