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D1official:
The annual defence budget of the US is around 600-700 billion dollars,thats almost the GDP of Russia which is slightly above 1Trillion dollars.

I know we all want to tell the world that Russia is also powerful but they are no mate with the US.

the US have hidden, unclassified weapons that you have no idea of.

Don't let the noise of Russia and China fool you.

I told someone, USA is an elder brother and just acting matured.

America will sink China and Russia in a week.
Hiroshima has been improved on.

loving this thread!

Bleep USA the bully.

jaxxy:
What does China the chief copycat have? And what does Russia the chief noise maker have??

I like Russia Bt they need to know their boundaries and respect others. Any attack will be tantamount to falling into a trap.

The West are the real noise makers

What noise has Russia made??

Russia acts not talk

When their interests are threatened they act

They are in Libya, Syria, Mali Acting

They acted in Georgia, They took over Crimea and they are prepared to go to war to stop Ukraine joining NATO

NATO are not prepared to go to war over Ukraine so who is making noise?


Does Russia even have the media reach to make noise?

When last did you watch Russian TV?



You do not have to be as strong as an adversary to defeat them.

Russia has chosen its red lines it has said to NATO you have to stop expanding to our borders we will not wait till you have an overwhelming presence . Any country like Poland that hosts hostile forces is in our sights



NATO cannot overpower Russia in Poland and all those Eastern European countries. Even Germany knows and wants no part of it hence they did not allow military supplies through their airspace

You say any attack will be falling into a trap

Is Russia NOT ALREADY in Eastern Ukraine?

aribisala0:
How do you know what others knew?

You really do not know these things you are saying. That is just beer parlour talk
They had it for "many years "

How do you know?

Be honest to admit what you know is limited to what you read somewhere . You have no knowledge or personal experience of these things

Do you know how many years of research it must have cost the US before they could develop and perfect a nuclear bomb? Or you think it is something that can be built and ready for service in few days?

The US had the nerve to use the nuclear bomb on Japan because they knew no one else had it as at then. The fact that several other countries now have it help to strike some balance in power and prevent another world war cos they now have what it takes to destroy each other.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the US have other weapons that the world is yet to find out. They only test such weapons during serious war, not for showoff.

Femi8586:
Do you know how many years of research it must have cost the US before they could develop and perfect a nuclear bomb? Or you think it is something that can be built and ready for service in few days?

The US had the nerve to use the nuclear bomb on Japan because they knew no one else had it as at then. The fact that several other countries now have it help to strike some balance in power and prevent another world war cos they now have what it takes to destroy each other.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the US have other weapons that the world is yet to find out. They only test such weapons during serious war, not for showoff.

Guy let us not derail the thread
That is a very long subject. The Soviets were also working on a nuclear weapon during the war. Your assumptions are wrong

The bottom-line is you are speculating



Years of research to develop the weapon is different from what tou said . The issue is after perfecting the research till its deployment in Japan how much time elapsed? You seem to be saying this was "YEARS" The truth is

YOU do not know

You say the "FACT"" That the US have other weapons the World does not know about >

How do you know this is a FACT?
How do you know others don't have unknown weapons?

Let us leave all that small pikin talk

Patto20:
In super power war aircraft carriers don't work bcoz is going be sink by sub or ballistic missiles .aircraft carriers i can only works with[b] 3rd World countries[/b]

a country came to my mind when i read the bolded part

November24:
I told someone, USA is an elder brother and just acting matured.

America will sink China and Russia in a week.
Hiroshima has been improved on.

They could not sink the Taliban in 20 years

aribisala0:
They could not sink the Taliban in 20 years

There are rules to such engagement sir.
Why haven't Nigeria conquered Boko Haram.

War is different...
All is fair in Love and War

November24:
There are rules to such engagement sir.
Why haven't Nigeria conquered Boko Haram.

War is different...
All is fair in Love and War

What is your point ?
What rules?
War is different? So what they did with Taliban was Ludo?
I believe I was the first person to bring up the Boko Haram issue on this thread so you are not really saying anything new

You believe that there will be any rules in a military confrontation involving Nuclear powers?
Who made those rules


What you have said is not relevant to what you quoted

The point was if they could not defeat the Taliban the idea that they will sink Russia is childish

Any war between the US and Russia will be nuclear and Europe will pay a big price


Russia's position is very simple . If they allow NATO to continue then one day NATO will be too big so now is the time for NATO to show its hand do they want peace or war? if they want peace they need to stay away from Ukraine because that is a red line for Russia.

Did Russia make announcement before the present build up? They are saying "Do your worst" So it is NATO's move right now
Russia is not talking they are acting let the US act too

Upworkwriter007:
Everyone should just STFU. no superpower will risk war with Russia. US said it's not going to fight war with Russia, and even if Russia invades Ukraine, there won't be any rescue mission in Ukraine has they can't risk being confrontational with Russia on the battlefront...Joe bidens words.

RUSSIA VS US will be world war 3. It'll leave Ukraine in ruins. The world economy will be in shambles. According to sciencefocus, the energy released if Russia simultaneously detonates it's weapon will destroy earth. There'll be guaranteed destruction across all continents. All for what? Ukraine?

They can go ahead and destroy the world , make we restart sef..

Gireiboy:
So, Russia doesn't have hidden weapons, besides how the hell do you know America has hidden weapons? All we know is Russia has the largest stockpile of Nuclear Weapons in the world and guess what by far the best in electronic warfare

my man no underrate u.s....why do you think area 51 is hidden from satellite or out of bound for any flight

Walkee:
lmao ironically it was Russia that defeated Germany. You have read too many English propaganda. I hope you understand that everything you have read about that war was written by UK and US?
You haven't read Russian accounts

russia didn't defeat Germany single handedly. It was a combined effort of both u.s, USSR and uk...USSR was already dieing of hunger. In WW1 Russia had to pause for a year. They couldn't continue fighting.

Mykel51:
I just they look most of them for Nairaland... They don't know Stalin and the Red army... Russia burnt down berlin...

US was busy attacking Japs and other Nazi allies..

read history well....Before the red army attacked Berlin...U.s air force bombarded berlin for 28 nights. Making berlin weak for an impending Russia invasion. U s took over Nuremberg.

Absolutely nothing...usa and nato will do nothing...bunch of hypocrites

larryUG:
Not true. The missile was launched from a sub that was part of the black sea fleet. Russia has a naval base in Tartus (syria)

What are you taking about?
Sept 2015 was from C.Sea
I watched it live and it’s on all news

KingAzubuike:
The USA doesn't need to make noise. They own the media third world countries rely on for info. From CNN to fox , Wikipedia, Google etc. They don't need to make too much noise. All they need to do is taint your mind with their tools listed above..

If you want raw, unaldulterated websites for sophisticated information , beep me up make I give you a thousand website you won't even find on Google search.

Please share them here o... I'm tired of Google and Wikipedia... thanks

D1official:
The annual defence budget of the US is around 600-700 billion dollars,thats almost the GDP of Russia which is slightly above 1Trillion dollars.

I know we all want to tell the world that Russia is also powerful but they are no mate with the US.

the US have hidden, unclassified weapons that you have no idea of.

Don't let the noise of Russia and China fool you.

I tell people that but the ignore the mach-3 that china,Russia and North Korea is boasting and US are saying theirs is not performing well. Let war start and let's see if the US mach-3 wouldn't reach its target.

EmmySparky:
Absolutely nothing...usa and nato will do nothing...bunch of hypocrites

Try them - they control the world and there is nothing Russia or China can do about it -

aribisala0:
What is your point ?
What rules?
War is different? So what they did with Taliban was Ludo?
I believe I was the first person to bring up the Boko Haram issue on this thread so you are not really saying anything new

You believe that there will be any rules in a military confrontation involving Nuclear powers?
Who made those rules


What you have said is not relevant to what you quoted

The point was if they could not defeat the Taliban the idea that they will sink Russia is childish

Any war between the US and Russia will be nuclear and Europe will pay a big price


Russia's position is very simple . If they allow NATO to continue then one day NATO will be too big so now is the time for NATO to show its hand do they want peace or war? if they want peace they need to stay away from Ukraine because that is a red line for Russia.

Did Russia make announcement before the present build up? They are saying "Do your worst" So it is NATO's move right now
Russia is not talking they are acting let the US act too

The US abides by rules of engagement and international law. If the US decided to unleash it's total military power, Afghanistan would have been turned into dust. It was not in their best interest to remain in that violent forsake place.

Russia is a regional power and that's where it ends.

Gireiboy:
So, Russia doesn't have hidden weapons, besides how the hell do you know America has hidden weapons? All we know is Russia has the largest stockpile of Nuclear Weapons in the world and guess what by far the best in electronic warfare

See as you carry Russia matter for head like gele. Well, Russia and the likes can afford to be reckless because they don't need to pretend to anyone that they are good. They just don't care. That's why they were quick to show off their ships capabilities in Syria, when their war planes could have done the jobs.

US will never show off any major weapon until it is needed because they are always playing the good guys.

ruggedtimi:
read history well....Before the red army attacked Berlin...U.s air force bombarded berlin for 28 nights. Making berlin weak for an impending Russia invasion. U s took over Nuremberg.

no mind all these people wey the best they know is eating shawarmar. I don tell Dem say without u.s entering the war, apart from most of Russia, every other European state don already fall under Nazis, even north Africa, too, under commander Erwin Rommel. I don tell them to browse"operation overlord", and. " Battle of the buldge". They are still too lazy to read.onface we for dey born in lab or garden, or camp in Africa. Russia kept quiet woke Nazis too the rest of Europe till they themselves were attacked by Nazis.

November24:
I told someone, USA is an elder brother and just acting matured.

America will sink China and Russia in a week.
Hiroshima has been improved on.

Lol. That's not possible. That's why the countries have deterrence. And if the number of weapons do win wars, Germany and Japan would be ruling the world by now. The US had over 1 million casualties during the second world war.

China and Russia are making too much noise and are eager to start something they can't finish though.

Modified: US had just over 400,000 casualties. The allied forces had a combined 1.2 million casualties.

Femi8586:
Do you know how many years of research it must have cost the US before they could develop and perfect a nuclear bomb? Or you think it is something that can be built and ready for service in few days?

The US had the nerve to use the nuclear bomb on Japan because they knew no one else had it as at then. The fact that several other countries now have it help to strike some balance in power and prevent another world war cos they now have what it takes to destroy each other.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the US have other weapons that the world is yet to find out. They only test such weapons during serious war, not for showoff.

Well, progress with the nuclear bomb was slow until the British made a breakthrough, hence the agreement between the US and UK to develop the two bombs. Japan and Germany also had their nuclear program then, but UK gave the US a headstart.

Artbydris:
Lol. That's not possible. That's why the countries have deterrence. And if the number of weapons do win wars, Germany and Japan would be ruling the world by now. The US had over 1 million casualties during the second world war.

China and Russia are making too much noise and are eager to start something they can't finish though.

Ok. But your assertion are not facts...
America lost less than 500k , Soviet was over 20million.


https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Patto20:
In super power war aircraft carriers don't work bcoz is going be sink by sub or ballistic missiles.aircraft carriers i can only works with 3rd. World countries

That’s academic. Nations like America that invest over a trillion dollars on these platforms know the vulnerability and invest heavily in their defence. Do some research on the carrier battle groups. None of these missiles or airplanes are invincible enough not to be detected hundreds of miles before impact. There is a multiplicity of counter measures to destroy both incoming payloads and the platforms that deliver them long before they come anywhere near

November24:
Ok. But your assertion are not facts...
America lost less than 500k , Soviet was over 20million.


https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Yes, I was totally wrong. Thank you.

aribisala0:
They could not sink the Taliban in 20 years

lol......who told you?? It's not worth it..........they are only protecting their selfish interest.

[quote author=Artbydris post=110191630]Lol. That's not possible. That's why the countries have deterrence. And if the number of weapons do win wars, Germany and Japan would be ruling the world by now. The US had over 1 million casualties during the second world war.

The US second world war casualties = 291,557
Russian second world war casualties = 27,000,000 ( millions )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

NigeriaZoo:
The US abides by rules of engagement and international law. If the US decided to unleash it's total military power, Afghanistan would have been turned into dust. It was not in their best interest to remain in that violent forsake place.

Russia is a regional power and that's where it ends.

exactly, if they wanted to anull Taliban.....they might tamper with ROE ,and civilian life is at risk.....

They should ask Libya.�

[quote author=NigeriaZoo post=110191962][/quote]Error acknowledged. The casualties were above 400,000 though.

Idumuje:
That’s academic. Nations like America that invest over a trillion dollars on these platforms know the vulnerability and invest heavily in their defence. Do some research on the carrier battle groups. None of these missiles or airplanes are invincible enough not to be detected hundreds of miles before impact. There is a multiplicity of counter measures to destroy both incoming payloads and the platforms that deliver them long before they come anywhere near

thanks jare....those people don't understand mordern warfare....if you lunch a successful missle to the US, you might not lunch another before interception....... even the first one might have been detected by a NATO country......a missle from Russia will pass through NATO first(except maybe via Alaska route).


USA is very smart,if conflict broke out, USA would first took the war out of their soil........ battle ground is most likely MIDDLE EAST......I read someone underestimating the importance of battle ship's/carrier, off.......they have enough .....all the logistics, planning etc are moste likely from there.

Artbydris:
Yes, I was totally wrong. Thank you.

You welcome sir. But your speculations are worth giving a second thought... All is fair in love and war