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How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by AntiChristian(op): 8:49am On Feb 14, 2022
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

But Jesus said:
“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. Mat 5:17

So how did Jesus fulfil the verse above?
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by cornelboy(f): 6:41pm On Feb 14, 2022
A stupid question coming from a confused person grin

You didn't see where Jesus said it's no longer an eye for eye?
You didn't see where Jesus freed the woman caught in adultery abi?

You haven't fully addressed your previous thread but your here creating another one.

You haven't read about the old and new covenant abi?

AntiChristian:
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

But Jesus said:
“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. Mat 5:17

So how did Jesus fulfil the verse above?
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by MaxInDHouse(m):
cornelboy:
A stupid question coming from a confused person grin
You didn't see where Jesus said it's no longer an eye for eye?
You didn't see where Jesus freed the woman caught in adultery abi?
You haven't fully addressed your previous thread but your here creating another one.
You haven't read about the old and new covenant abi?
NO! My brother, please he needs to be cleared of any reasonable doubt of whatever question may come up into his heart.
So even if he refused to see reasons with the truth he can't deprive honest hearted and sincere followers from seeing the light in our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

@ AntiChristian.

This is the answer to your question.

God brought the Israelites out of Egypt with a mighty harm and gave them victory over the inhabitants of Canaan so He has every right to impose on them His rules on the land where He got for them.
That's why He said any of their children who chose to rebel against the laws he gave them must be killed through the confession of his parents.
But the Israelites lost the privilege of being God's people forever so God condemned their nation and His spirit left their land.
Now God is no more forcing His rules on any nation since they settled where they are on their own {John 4:22-24} He didn't fight for any nation to secure any portion for them so His worshipers now are the ones who chose to be His own people willingly not under compulsion!
Therefore if any child born to a Christian family decides to be a rebel, they have no right under the human constitution to kill such a child but they have the moral right to shun such a rebel! Romans 16:17; 2John 1:10-11

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by AntiChristian(op): 10:01am On Feb 15, 2022
cornelboy:
A stupid question coming from a confused person grin

You didn't see where Jesus said it's no longer an eye for eye?
The stupid one is one who believes he's being controlled by one holy spirit yet keeps calling someone stupid!
Where did Jesus said no more more an eye for an eye?
Jesus said:
“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. Mat 5:17

You didn't see where Jesus freed the woman caught in adultery abi?
Jesus didn't free her. He mentioned that those accusing her are also not free of sins!

You haven't fully addressed your previous thread but your here creating another one.
Is there any rule against creating multiple threads on nairaland? School me pls!

You haven't read about the old and new covenant abi?
Where did Yahweh mention such?
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by cornelboy(f): 7:08pm On Feb 15, 2022
The stupid one is one who believes he's being controlled by one holy spirit yet keeps calling someone stupid!
Did I ever confess to you that I'm baptized with the holy spirit smiley

Where did Jesus said no more more an eye for an eye?
[center]Matthew 5:38-47
[38]“You have heard the law that says the punishment must match the injury: ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’
[39]But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also.
[40]If you are sued in court and your shirt is taken from you, give your coat, too.
[41]If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.
[42]Give to those who ask, and don’t turn away from those who want to borrow.
[43]“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy.
[44]But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you!
[45]In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike.
[46]If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much.
[47]If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that.
[/center] undecided

Jesus said:
“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. Mat 5:17
Jesus didn't free her. He mentioned that those accusing her are also not free of sins!
Jesus ended the old covenant and started the new covenant through his sacrificial death.

Jesus told her to go and sin more. That's the message Jehovah God brought to us through Jesus smiley

John 8:10-11
[10]Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
[11]“No, Lord,” she said.And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”----------
[quote author=AntiChristian post=110241624][/quote]There are cases where Jesus and his disciples didn't observe the law smiley
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by AntiChristian(op): 9:47am On Feb 16, 2022
cornelboy:
Did I ever confess to you that I'm baptized with the holy spirit smiley


[center]Matthew 5:38-47
[38]“You have heard the law that says the punishment must match the injury: ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’
[39]But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also.
[40]If you are sued in court and your shirt is taken from you, give your coat, too.
[41]If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.
[42]Give to those who ask, and don’t turn away from those who want to borrow.
[43]“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy.
[44]But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you!
[45]In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike.
[46]If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much.
[47]If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that.
[/center] undecided



Jesus ended the old covenant and started the new covenant through his sacrificial death.

Jesus told her to go and sin more. That's the message Jehovah God brought to us through Jesus smiley

John 8:10-11
[10]Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
[11]“No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”----------


There are cases where Jesus and his disciples didn't observe the law smiley
So why did Jesus mentions following the same commandment here in Mat 19:16-19

16 A man came to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to have eternal life?”

17 Jesus answered, “Why do you ask me about what is good? Only God is good. But if you want to have eternal life, obey the law’s commands.”

18 The man asked, “Which ones?”

Jesus answered, “‘You must not murder anyone, you must not commit adultery, you must not steal, you must not tell lies about others, 19 you must respect your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor the same as you love yourself.’”
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by cornelboy(f): 9:57am On Feb 16, 2022
Oh you think Jesus would say we can commit murder and aldultery right?
The law is not just the ten commandments smiley
Study the new testament well and see what I'm talking about.
Jesus brought another new covenant and ended the old covenant.

AntiChristian:
So why did Jesus mentions following the same commandment here in Mat 19:16-19

16 A man came to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to have eternal life?”

17 Jesus answered, “Why do you ask me about what is good? Only God is good. But if you want to have eternal life, obey the law’s commands.”

18 The man asked, “Which ones?”

Jesus answered, “‘You must not murder anyone, you must not commit adultery, you must not steal, you must not tell lies about others, 19 you must respect your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor the same as you love yourself.’”
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:55am On Feb 16, 2022
cornelboy:
Oh you think Jesus would say we can commit murder and aldultery right?
The law is not just the ten commandments smiley
Study the new testament well and see what I'm talking about.
Jesus brought another new covenant and ended the old covenant.
They thought the law begins with Moses! cheesy
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by AntiChristian(op): 11:19am On Feb 16, 2022
cornelboy:
Oh you think Jesus would say we can commit murder and aldultery right?
The law is not just the ten commandments smiley
Study the new testament well and see what I'm talking about.
Jesus brought another new covenant and ended the old covenant.
Where did Jesus specifically say this statement?

Jesus said:
“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. Mat 5:17
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by cornelboy(f): 11:57am On Feb 16, 2022
Where or why huh

AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus specifically say this statement?

Jesus said:
“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. Mat 5:17
Re: How To Treat A Stubborn And Rebellious Child by AntiChristian(op): 12:02pm On Feb 16, 2022
cornelboy:
Where or why huh
Where did Jesus say to hell with the old testament/covenant as i brought the new testament/covenant!
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