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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:40pm On Feb 16, 2022
Jeff68:


My Brother, I think you are missing the point, you are good at what you do and everyone here knows that. But taking up for every Nigerian Artisan is a tall order! Not everyone is as diligent as you or take pride in what they do. Many will cheat you or cheat themselves by offering a bad product. Because many of us live outside Nigeria, we have a certain standard we are use to, and many are willing to pay for it. But the quality must be top notch. Please do not take it as an attack on you or defend anyone but yourself and your work.

ALWAY PROUD OF YOU!
I'm speaking for those of us who are struggling to make it right even in Nigeria.

Don't lump all of us together and yes there are good carpenters too. You just haven't met them and trust me, you will be wowed by their talents.


Shalom

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:43pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
They should stop it, it's annoying. You can't even give your money to artisans again without the fear of wasting it.

making money is each but creating wealth will take painstaking efforts.

The former is what most people are for and that's why they will cheat, lie and dupe to become rich today forgetting that a good name will speak volumes for them.

Anyway,if Tesla can issue a recall for brand new cars,baba Mustafa Ali can do a chair that can break after six hours

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:44pm On Feb 16, 2022
Tesla refunds, replaces, does Baba Nneka refund/replace?
michlins:
making money is each but creating wealth will take painstaking efforts.

The former is what most people are for and that's why they will cheat, lie and dupe to become rich today forgetting that a good name will speak volumes for them.

Anyway,if Tesla can issue a recall for brand new cars,baba Mustafa Ali can do a chair that can break after six hours

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:46pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
Tesla refunds, replaces, does Baba Nneka refund/replace?
Tesla is worth $1trn, baba Nneka is worth his wife and children.

I'm not holding brief for baba Nneka. Judge me by my errors oh
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:53pm On Feb 16, 2022
You made the comparison.

michlins:
Tesla is worth $1trn, baba Nneka is worth his wife and children.

I'm not holding brief for baba Nneka. Judge me by my errors oh

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Person2person(m): 7:58pm On Feb 16, 2022
michlins:
I'm speaking for those of us who are struggling to make it right even in Nigeria.

Don't lump all of us together and yes there are good carpenters too. You just haven't met them and trust me, you will be wowed by their talents.


Shalom

You nailed it, you see most of those displayed furnitures on the road side showroom are done with average materials for average nigeria market....and again, those guys don't care about reputation but they are cheap.

If you want quality furnitures, you will make a special order stating your preference (quality of fabrics, wood, foam etc), and be ready to pay premium too.

There are local furniture companies that produce quality furnitures.... 100% SURE!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 8:05pm On Feb 16, 2022
diordaves:


Brutal!!! Don't you know we use cheap alcohol to "shine eye" so we fit see and drive well, well?

Took me a while to explain to a driver who told me he needed to take 2 small Stouts to clear eyes before we drove almost 600km .he said the red eyes keeps him active and alert.man didn't know he was literally struggling to have his eyes open...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:06pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
I plan to buy ready-made furniture going forward, but the issue is "will they last" since I ain't sure of the materials used?


Please do not buy ready made furniture, Go to the market and select the material you want, either fabric of leather, Give it to someone to make for you. Tell them the type of wood you want. Mahogany is a good one but be sure to see it once purchased or follow them to wood market to select the type of wood you want. Time consuming but that is what it is.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:11pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
I plan to buy ready-made furniture going forward, but the issue is "will they last" since I ain't sure of the materials used?


I think you’ll be good with an outfit like Vava. The stuff I bought 5 years ago are still good.

They allegedly sell imported goods that are assembled locally.

I’m refusing to order from abroad though I’m being pushed towards this.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:13pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
That is it.
If they give you a sample of what they want, charge them based on the amount you think can get the job done perfectly.

If what they offer won't do it, decline and move on but no, they will take the money and build you rubbish, yet expect you not to complain.

I am not picking money on the floor.

This lack of accountability is causing a lot in Nigeria, even in Business, alot of defaults here and there when it's time to pay back invested funds.


I’m going to stop posting now because you’ve said everything on my mind.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 8:22pm On Feb 16, 2022
Ewo.. I don't see myself following through with this approach sir.

I will pay someone good and still babysit him?

sonnie10:


Please do not buy ready made furniture, Go to the market and select the material you want, either fabric of leather, Give it to someone to make for you. Tell them the type of wood you want. Mahogany is a good one but be sure to see it once purchased or follow them to wood market to select the type of wood you want. Time consuming but that is what it is.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 8:23pm On Feb 16, 2022
It May likely cost double sir if ordering from abroad.
EgunMogaji2:


I think you’ll be good with an outfit like Vava. The stuff I bought 5 years ago are still good.

They allegedly sell imported goods that are assembled locally.

I’m refusing to order from abroad though I’m being pushed towards this.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:28pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
Ewo.. I don't see myself following through with this approach sir.

One other truth. You won't find a good furniture maker in Lagos. If you want the best furniture in Nigeria both style and quality, you have to visit Ikot Ekpene in Akwa Ibom.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:28pm On Feb 16, 2022
dongc:


Took me a while to explain to a driver who told me he needed to take 2 small Stouts to clear eyes before we drove almost 600km .he said the red eyes keeps him active and alert.man didn't know he was literally struggling to have his eyes open...
Omo I laughed hard reading this.

I have been in such situation and it rained that day. I prayed more than I have ever prayed my whole life
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:32pm On Feb 16, 2022
sonnie10:


Please do not buy ready made furniture, Go to the market and select the material you want, either fabric of leather, Give it to someone to make for you. Tell them the type of wood you want. Mahogany is a good one but be sure to see it once purchased or follow them to wood market to select the type of wood you want. Time consuming but that is what it is.
I prefer proffering solutions like this rather than being an armchair expert after few hours on Pinterest.

It's frustrating but sadly that's the situation of Nigeria currently. So instead of complaining, find ways to make it work. If you see something as sample and you really like it, drop the advance they asked of you and wait to get it instead of coming to the internet to complain.

Accessing credit facility as an entrepreneur in this country is terrible. While at it, our ability to handle funds is terrible. Just see how people who take loans from banks start buying stuff not related to the business

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:38pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
It May likely cost double sir if ordering from abroad.

You'll be surprised it might not. Even if it is it is worth it to some of us.

Some dunces can't even get it right even with copying already made stuff on Pinterest and they call themselves artisans. I see it on here all day.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:42pm On Feb 16, 2022
sonnie10:


One other truth. You won't find a good furniture maker in Lagos. If you want the best furniture in Nigeria both style and quality, you have to visit Ikot Ekpene in Akwa Ibom.

I learnt something new just now. It's sad that some are afraid for unrelated conversation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 8:47pm On Feb 16, 2022
Okay sir.

sonnie10:


One other truth. You won't find a good furniture maker in Lagos. If you want the best furniture in Nigeria both style and quality, you have to visit Ikot Ekpene in Akwa Ibom.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 8:48pm On Feb 16, 2022
somehow:
It May likely cost double sir if ordering from abroad.

Look at Dulux paint 4 liter imported for 57k
I can get Behr paint 20 liter for $150 and pay shipping other $30

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:49pm On Feb 16, 2022
The last time I was in Nigeria, I visited my little cousin and the type of leather upholstery I saw in his house I was impressed. The quality of the leather and the sewing ( stitch thread) was perfect. I asked him how much he got them for and he said his next door neighbor made them for a fraction of the cost. I couldn't believe it. Then. he went to the other flat to bring the person who made it.

It happened that the guy works for one of those big furniture companies, and was able to use tools in his work place to do his own outside runs. They are those that can do these things but they do not have the resources, instead they are employed for peanuts in those big name companies who make all the money.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 8:59pm On Feb 16, 2022
michlins:
how many people want minimalistic designs in Nigeria. You folks in this thread are somewhat living outside of reality seriously.

You guys have been berating Nigeria artisans for a few days now. If you think what we're doing is easy, kindly do it. The reason designs are repeated is because that's what our society wants. We want it big or nothing.

Being an artisan in Nigeria is very very difficult. You want to do something different whereas you don't know how the market will accept it and it's not like you have the funds to test new waters. Getting tools is very very expensive and even when you manage to get it, they will still compare your prices with what others are charging thereby demoralizing you.

What is the purchasing power of Nigerians. How many people can afford treated hardwood. The few who could simply would import it from Dubai.

Biko, if you don't want the artisans are currently making, take your own design and give them to make for you or you can simply import same.
Mek una no provoke my iron man ooo
Valid points you raised....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:21pm On Feb 16, 2022
My parting shot

"If you are not ready and willing to do more than what you have been paid for, you can never be paid more than what you are doing."
-Bob Proctor-

It's when you do more than what you were paid for that people be willing to pay you more than what you are doing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Person2person(m): 9:22pm On Feb 16, 2022
sonnie10:


[b]One other truth. You won't find a good furniture maker in Lagos.
If you want the best furniture in Nigeria both style and quality, you have to visit Ikot Ekpene in Akwa Ibom.

Lagos in the mud...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 9:24pm On Feb 16, 2022
michlins:
Omo I laughed hard reading this.

I have been in such situation and it rained that day. I prayed more than I have ever prayed my whole life

grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 9:31pm On Feb 16, 2022
Person2person:


Lagos in the mud...

Not really. Just that people don’t have time to do such in Lagos. In Lagos, they want to assemble imported Chinese ones for quick cash and turnover.
No assembled furniture can use genuine leather. They can’t. It’s all pvc or other synthetic materials

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Person2person(m): 9:42pm On Feb 16, 2022
sonnie10:


Not really. Just that people don’t have time to do such in Lagos. In Lagos, they want to assemble imported Chinese ones for quick cash and turnover.
No assembled furniture can use genuine leather. They can’t. It’s all pvc or other synthetic materials

You don't need to generalise it as 'the whole of lagos'...there are genuine leather (animal skin) in Mushin, it is sold per square meter..there are special Uphostery guys that use industrial machine for the coverings.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by CMC180: 9:44pm On Feb 16, 2022
Person2person:


You nailed it, you see most of those displayed furnitures on the road side showroom are done with average materials for average nigeria market....and again, those guys don't care about reputation but they are cheap.

If you want quality furnitures, you will make a special order stating your preference (quality of fabrics, wood, foam etc) and be ready to pay premium too.

There are local furniture companies that produce quality furnitures.... 100% SURE!



could you please educate us on what kind of fabric,wood and foam is considered inferior,basic or premium..... thank you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 9:46pm On Feb 16, 2022
Give 99.9% of carpenters in Nigeria a sofa design you want, pay them the money they request and provide the materials they list..... you will still be the one to lecture them after they deliver the 'remix' to you.

And this is NOT perculiar to only carpenters.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by okeysoninv: 9:52pm On Feb 16, 2022
Person2person:


You don't need to generalise it as 'the whole of lagos'...there are genuine leather (animal skin) in Mushin, it is sold per square meter..there are special Uphostery guys that use industrial machine for the coverings.





how much are they selling it per square meter

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 9:57pm On Feb 16, 2022
Person2person:


You don't need to generalise it as 'the whole of lagos'...there are genuine leather (animal skin) in Mushin, it is sold per square meter..there are special Uphostery guys that use industrial machine for the coverings.






Ok.
First, cows and their cowhide don’t come in square meter, they come as whole cow and are sold like that, not in pieces.
But do you know how much they sell them?. I am willing to pay up to #20k per square. And I will need up to 20sqm for a set of upholstery.
Deal?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Person2person(m): 10:01pm On Feb 16, 2022
sonnie10:


Ok. But do you know how much they sell them. I am willing to pay up to #20k per square. And I will need up to 20sqm for a set of upholstery.
Deal?

I will confirm for you tommorow....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 10:08pm On Feb 16, 2022
Person2person:


I will confirm for you tommorow....
I will show sample of what I want. Nothing in rolls or bundles.

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