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madridsta007:
Again:

Name ONE, just ONE sanction that the Biden regime has hit Russia with in his over 1 year in office.

Just ONE, please.

Exactly, it's only been over just a year in office and there has not been a need to impose a more stringent sanction on Putin until his actions today or in the following days to come. Imposing sanctions is not a competition hence Biden doesn't have to just impose sanctions just for the sake of showing he's tougher on Putin.
Trump believed Putin when he denied that he placed bounty on US military men in Afghanistan even though Trumps own men and women of the US intelligence dept told him otherwise. He rather believe Putin instead of Americans working in the interest of the US.
What puppetry can be worse than that.
Even Trump won't deny that he's a puppet of Putin.
Pls stop wasting your time arguing what is blatantly obvious.

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Hanibbal:
As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those region trying to break away is what he had plans for. Sai Putin

There is nothing smart there, it was always the plan from the onset, Ukraine have been at war for 8 years in the donbas region where militias recognized by Russia and back by via the Wagner group have been operating. It's the reason in the Minsk agreement all parties agreed to have a observing body to monitor things and ensure things didn't escalate. The invasion threat was to have new concessions from the Ukrainian people and government which was resisted due to EU backing. Assuming EU showed similar support to Georgia, south Ossetia wouldn't be a occupied region by russia. But the then president of Georgia fell for the staged invasion by attacking Russia militias that was advocating for autonomy, because of the minority speaking Russians. And also Russian forces that were conducting military drills at the North Ossetia region. Russian forces even advanced all the way to the capital tiblisi, the concession putin got was having that region as an autonomous region and government that is pro Russia till this day.
If you followed events Russian backed militias shelled the Ukraine controlled side of those region but the Ukrainian army never fired a shot because they knew firing back would be the pretext for Putin to launch a full scale all out attack on Ukraine. All NATO did was army the Ukrainian army and Ukrainians because they can't defend Ukraine because the law doesn't mandate them to, but it will make any invasion costly to Russia even though the country fell.

Putin used the same pretext for a region in moldova that is now autonomous and Russian controlled because of small Russian speaking population. I am from a NATO country of mixed north African heritage married to a Nigerian and currently residing in Nigeria, I have lived all my life in europe and worked across africa for more than 8 years. Believe me when I tell this is a win for us in europe, Russia is the most powerful country in europe and can overrun us all, the nuclear deterrence of France and UK is what is keeping them in check to a large extent and the presence of America is what is preventing them from having military ambition in Europe.
My country was a former Soviet state just imagine the population of Russian speakers around 24% percent, just imagine if we weren't in NATO how Putin would have used the same pretext to over us.
Europe is no different from Africa when it comes to tribes only difference is that every tribe are allowed to self determine their future, which is how many european countries were born. So support of Putin is no different than saying it's okay for the certain tribes in Nigeria to absorb other tribes and their region just because they are bigger or hold some powers. This is what Putin and Chinese vision is for the world, where the strong will absorb the weak and continue to expand and absorb. This is going back to dark ages of empires such ottoman, Prussia and British empire.

Saifullah01:
My guy bone that thing, the Americans are also "shege" in this game. I think their mistake was to think Russia won't see through their "shege" or at least not this soon.

To many the cold War ended in the 90's, but that is the ingenuity of the Americans- making you believe that.

Cold War 1 ended in 1990. Cold War 2 begans about 10 years ago, it is just getting hot.

edmaraja:
And Neither Ukraine or NATO can do anything about it

All you guys supporting Russia are either kids or Ipobs.

Cause this is how ipobs reason


Russia's economy can't afford any war. Even China will avoid this egotistical war of Putin.

The time of conquering territory is over. If you can't persuade them, best leave em

useni1:
Yes. that's how I want my life to be. My aim is to ban all bullshiit western propaganda rubbish. From facebook, to twitter, instagram etc. China is even too friendly. I will ban Nigerians from traveling to europe and america. You call brainwashing luxury? Ogun kee you there!

Can u please educate yourself in Chinese language? Stop writing in English language.

sslcrypt:
There is nothing smart there, it was always the plan from the onset, Ukraine have been at war for 8 years in the donbas region where militias recognized by Russia and back by via the Wagner group have been operating. It's the reason in the Minsk agreement all parties agreed to have a observing body to monitor things and ensure things didn't escalate. The invasion threat was to have new concessions from the Ukrainian people and government which was resisted due to EU backing. Assuming EU showed similar support to Georgia, south Ossetia wouldn't be a occupied region by russia. But the then president of Georgia fell for the staged invasion by attacking Russia militias that was advocating for autonomy, because of the minority speaking Russians. And also Russian forces that were conducting military drills at the North Ossetia region. Russian forces even advanced all the way to the capital tiblisi, the concession putin got was having that region as an autonomous region and government that is pro Russia till this day.
If you followed events Russian backed militias shelled the Ukraine controlled side of those region but the Ukrainian army never fired a shot because they knew firing back would be the pretext for Putin to launch a full scale all out attack on Ukraine. All NATO did was army the Ukrainian army and Ukrainians because they can't defend Ukraine because the law doesn't mandate them to, but it will make any invasion costly to Russia even though the country fell.

Putin used the same pretext for a region in moldova that is now autonomous and Russian controlled because of small Russian speaking population. I am from a NATO country of mixed north African heritage married to a Nigerian and currently residing in Nigeria, I have lived all my life in europe and worked across africa for more than 8 years. Believe me when I tell this is a win for us in europe, Russia is the most powerful country in europe and can overrun us all, the nuclear deterrence of France and UK is what is keeping them in check to a large extent and the presence of America is what is preventing them from having military ambition in Europe.
My country was a former Soviet state just imagine the population of Russian speakers around 24% percent, just imagine if we weren't in NATO how Putin would have used the same pretext to over us.
Europe is no different from Africa when it comes to tribes only difference is that every tribe are allowed to self determine their future, which is how many european countries were born. So support of Putin is no different than saying it's okay for the certain tribes in Nigeria to absorb other tribes and their region just because they are bigger or hold some powers. This is what Putin and Chinese vision is for the world, where the strong will absorb the weak and continue to expand and absorb. This is going back to dark ages of empires such ottoman, Prussia and British empire.

Those supporting Putin ( don't lemme say Russia because I know this is Putin's war just like Hitler 's) are mostly I'll informed or Ipobs.

And we all know what happens to anyone supported by ipobs

Hanibbal:
As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those region trying to break away is what he had plans for. Sai Putin

Did you watch his speech? Putin’s feelings about Ukraine is not in anyway limited to those anexxed regions. Those 150k+ soldiers at different points of the borders are not there to play.

He’s still getting the same sanctions he’d have gotten if he occupied those two cities directly. So I’m sure this is just a starting point.

IPIGSRHYPO:
Exactly, it's only been over just a year in office and there has not been a need to impose a more stringent sanction on Putin until his actions today or in the following days to come. Imposing sanctions is not a competition hence Biden doesn't have to just impose sanctions just for the sake of showing he's tougher on Putin.
Trump believed Putin when he denied that he placed bounty on US military men in Afghanistan even though Trumps own men and women of the US intelligence dept told him otherwise. He rather believe Putin ;Dinstead of Americans working in the interest of the US.
What puppetry can be worse than that.
Even Trump won't deny that he's a puppet of Putin.
Pls stop wasting your time arguing what is blatantly obvious.

Toe to toe indeed.
Even Biden will be laughing at you.

I wish you can use facts and not emotive CNN statements clearly debunked as lies.

Why do you guys love lying?

If anyone has any doubts about the similarities b/w Hitler and Putin (aside from patience and a nuclear arsenal), let those be put to rest. This is an existential crisis for all of us. Annexation and appeasement does not end well

AmazonTopaz:
You are not making any sense and you should not be taken seriously imagine embracing Russia and China because you despise the west and you think you will be better under them lol you don't know what you are talking about it is okay to despise the west and Russia I would not waste my time with you.

And also Africa is the cause of its problem stop blaming the west for everything.Ethiopia that was not colonised take a look at that country and its handling of the war in Tigray.

You are not intellectually sound enough to be engaged in this discussion. You are nothing but a dotted line in statistics of things for the west hence your opinion is as thin as air. Its because of this fact I neither hate the west nor love the east. However it must be stated that the west continue to plunder Africa by installing neocolonialist in power to help loot our resources?
Do you know that according to Transparency International, £1.3tn is the amount of corrupt funds currently stashed in the UK?
Do you also know that 7 French speaking west African states of Togo, Mali, Niger, Chad, Burkinafaso, Ivorycoast, Senegal, Guinea-Bissau do not have their own currency and individual central Bank? Their currency is CFA Franc(its even in the name for fúcks sake) and it's regional central Bank BCEAO stores their foreign reserves in  Banque de France? (So Y dafuq do you have a regional Central Bank that cannot store the member nations external reserves) are they truly independent if their foreign reserves are being stored in France? Do you know the mind blowing part? Immediately those countries came together in 2020 to announce their departure from CFA Franc to their own currency named ECO & removal of their external reserves from France central Bank to their own regional bank the next thing that happened is Coup d'etat. This is the reason for the many coups in francophone west African nations. Do you also know that Belgium killed 2 million Congolese just to mine rubber? Till this day Belgium and France take rubber from Congo & DRC in the name of Michelin & Continental tyres . How is Congo & DRC faring? Russia is not your problem

AmazonTopaz:
If only you could take out time to read on the USSR or watch videos on YouTube you would not be praying and hoping for such I am very sure that you would support Nazi Germany coming back right?

You people should use your head for once.

I'm curious to understand why you think the west should have Supreme influence with no one to challenge them ?

useni1:
and communist USSR will come back..nothing paper tiger America and NATO can do about it

I want the USSR Back

Saifullah01:
I think Putin has outsmarted the West. Ask me how

Serious and won the propaganda. Biden like George Bush keep shouting wolf where there is none.

High time USA stop playing the moral policeman of f the world.

The undue imperalism of the west led to this.

I detest a unipolar world, there must always be a counterbalance.

Hanibbal:
As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those region trying to break away is what he had plans for. Sai Putin

You think Putin is smart but he is not. He's a troublesome coward. He assembled for war but seeing that the response will bring him down, he is doing backdoor politics.
Thats not smartness, thats cowardice.

AmazonTopaz:
It was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back.

More like to create a buffer and check western imperialism wanting to create a unipolar world.

Ideological war by proxy.

Hanibbal:
As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those region trying to break away is what he had plans for. Sai Putin

Sai Putin from one of those idiots that support One Nigeria at all cost!

Hypocrisy will k*ll you guys

What a time to be alive

Boss Vlad has really unravelled these western hawks, and their zombies are now in sifia pains

franchasng Jokerman DREAMZZZ Asour blackaxe78 NairaThief KingOfTheDamned NairaMaster1 Mrbenny001

Una dey confirm?

Stay tuned for more updates

[quote author=olugabbie post=110429387]NATO/US are handicap as it stands. He has not invaded. They can't sanction Russia, because if they do. Russia will have nothing to loss if she invades eventually. They also can not use military means, because the situation can quickly change from Russia-Ukraine crisis to world war.

Russia is not interested in reviving the USSR. USSR is gone. All Putin wants is respect. If NATO halts it's expansion Russia will be automatically be at ease. The fear of being alone is what Russia is afraid. Imagine if all the countries in eastern Europe join NATO.

NATO is a military alliance. It was created to counter USSR. Now there is no more USSR. Russia is not as powerful as the USSR. Why the continuous expansion? Which threat is NATO trying to counter? The enemy of a country on it's door step is a serious security concern.[/quote

Don’t worry too much, they have started the sanctions already… this is international politics not some APC or PDP things that we use emotions to judge…

Putin is aware that Biden is just a noisy weakling, why he didn't do this during Trump time.. trump will retaliate in kind unlike biden that will hide behind cnn curtains

AmazonTopaz:
If only you could take out time to educate yourself too.

See who is mocking someone irony is truly dead

Baby girl calm down and try to listen

No soviet country is coming back

Russia to recognise Biafra.

AmazonTopaz:
He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

Funny how western media propaganda has moulded the minds of most people to view the US and its allies as 'saints and saviours' whilst viewing Russia as villains. What is Russia doing today that isnt done daily by the US? Meanwhile the so called 'soveriegn' territory Russia is invading today, I thought those places were former Soviet territories which the US helped to breakaway not too long ago?

Hanibbal:
As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those region trying to break away is what he had plans for. Sai Putin

he's a good chess player and you will have to respect him.

obailala:
Funny how western media propaganda has moulded the minds of most people to view the US and its allies as 'saints and saviours' whilst viewing Russia as villains. What is Russia doing today that isnt done daily by the US? Meanwhile the so called 'soveriegn' territory Russia is invading today, I thought those places were former Soviet territories which the US helped to breakaway not too long ago?

Amazontopaz sounds like of those brainwashed people who sees everything USA does in good light and you're seen to be good if USA says you are good.

AmazonTopaz:
Declaring Luhansk and Donetsk a territory under Ukraine is already an invasion don't be naive.
It is going to be a world war crisis because he will go after other USSR former territories he needs to be stopped now.If the west sanctions Russian oligarchs that use money for war and not her economy Russia will lose. The US/NATO are not handicapped they just don't want to be interventionist anymore so they are trying to be diplomatic.


Please stop talking out of point Putin wants the USSR stop sympathising with the cause of a dictator if Putin wants respect he should respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and embrace the fact that the USSR is dead.

My goodness did you see NATO force former states of the USSR to join or they went on their own will, majority of Ukrainians want NATO and the fact that Putin is still nostalgic about the USSR is enough proof of that have you asked yourself why former states of the USSR are interested in joining the west why not ask yourself that since you think Russia is so good that they are running away from it or they should swallow their will because of one man called Putin.
Give me a break

If Russia was not benevolent as to granting these Soviet republics independence in first instance will these countries as in this case Ukraine, Estonia, Lituania, Latvia etc be independent with sovereignty to join NATO and the west?

It is because Russia gave them independence.

So they should not bite the finger that feed them.

mysteryman2014:
Serious and won the propaganda. Biden like George Bush keep shouting wolf where there is none.

High time USA stop playing the moral policeman of f the world.

The undue imperalism of the west led to this.

I detest a unipolar world, there must always be a counterbalance.

we can't all be the same and we can't accept same thing - Americans should understand this.

Saifullah01:
I think Putin has outsmarted the West. Ask me how

I believe you bro. But will still like to hear from you

sslcrypt:
There is nothing smart there, it was always the plan from the onset, Ukraine have been at war for 8 years in the donbas region where militias recognized by Russia and back by via the Wagner group have been operating. It's the reason in the Minsk agreement all parties agreed to have a observing body to monitor things and ensure things didn't escalate. The invasion threat was to have new concessions from the Ukrainian people and government which was resisted due to EU backing. Assuming EU showed similar support to Georgia, south Ossetia wouldn't be a occupied region by russia. But the then president of Georgia fell for the staged invasion by attacking Russia militias that was advocating for autonomy, because of the minority speaking Russians. And also Russian forces that were conducting military drills at the North Ossetia region. Russian forces even advanced all the way to the capital tiblisi, the concession putin got was having that region as an autonomous region and government that is pro Russia till this day.
If you followed events Russian backed militias shelled the Ukraine controlled side of those region but the Ukrainian army never fired a shot because they knew firing back would be the pretext for Putin to launch a full scale all out attack on Ukraine. All NATO did was army the Ukrainian army and Ukrainians because they can't defend Ukraine because the law doesn't mandate them to, but it will make any invasion costly to Russia even though the country fell.

Putin used the same pretext for a region in moldova that is now autonomous and Russian controlled because of small Russian speaking population. I am from a NATO country of mixed north African heritage married to a Nigerian and currently residing in Nigeria, I have lived all my life in europe and worked across africa for more than 8 years. Believe me when I tell this is a win for us in europe, Russia is the most powerful country in europe and can overrun us all, the nuclear deterrence of France and UK is what is keeping them in check to a large extent and the presence of America is what is preventing them from having military ambition in Europe.
My country was a former Soviet state just imagine the population of Russian speakers around 24% percent, just imagine if we weren't in NATO how Putin would have used the same pretext to over us.
Europe is no different from Africa when it comes to tribes only difference is that every tribe are allowed to self determine their future, which is how many european countries were born. So support of Putin is no different than saying it's okay for the certain tribes in Nigeria to absorb other tribes and their region just because they are bigger or hold some powers. This is what Putin and Chinese vision is for the world, where the strong will absorb the weak and continue to expand and absorb. This is going back to dark ages of empires such ottoman, Prussia and British empire.

You are just a full blown liar. You should be ashamed of writing this nonsense. Thank God for social media. We would have believed in your trash. We all know that it's the Ukrainian soldiers that fired the first artillery after USA failed predicted day of Invision to provoc the Russia but they were served with suprise...

scully95:
This is the Georgia 2.0 I was lecturing one(sanpipita) anglozoo wanabe fanboy on here https://www.nairaland.com/6989076/russia-finally-invades-ukraine-fires#110278149 What it means - This will give Russia the power to send in peacekeepers. All the leaders in Donbass have to do is write a letter asking Russia for help. Lobtan! Conflict will remain frozen as the Anglozionist empire cannot afford to even lose half of Ukraine's pie.

OP: It's not to recognise anymore. Russia has officially recognised Donbass, republic of Lugansk and Donestk as sovereign nations.

Thus is very correct. That is the right to self determination us has claimed to be championing. Unfortunately, is all a charade. The people of donbas are Russia speaking people and they do not want anything to do with us and nato

kponkedenge:
Both Donetsk and Luhansk are majority speaking Russian regions inside of Ukraine, I wonder what will happen now.... considering the EU is against the move.

Ukraine is basically nato, though not officially nato. They are already getting the millitary supports nato members are getting. Donbas will serve as the real buffer and will never be part of nato

olugabbie:
In few hours from now, Russia will likely send lightly armed Russian troops into the Donbas. Something similar to the little green men, that were sent to Crimea.

One thing people don't know about Puttin is how smart he is. He does not gamble. He knew very well that he will get what he want. He is a master planner. Every event that is unfolding now has been carefully and well planned.

Now it is clear that Ukraine will never join NATO.

Ukraine is basically nato. But donbas will be the new line