In how many words can a man hint that he is not in support of the Ukraine war than by saying he will donate all profits from selling Chelsea to Ukraine war victims

When you are Russian, you don't come out and say you don't agree with Putin, that's almost suicide, but there are other ways to do it that Putin will understand and let you off.

Even FBS won't talk about his thought on the war, before he get a knock on the door from KGB, na Roman go come talk

Many Russian sports stars have been showing their sympathy without condemning the war because they know what that curtails. Smart men are not hot headed.

Roman's at the root of Putin's power.

Actman05:
Roman's at the root of Putin's power.

Thank you very much!! That's enough to hate the man times 10. When you learn of his murderous past, times it by 100. I understand that people are not there yet that's why they don't understand my over insistence on this. Spending billions to build up a football club {which wasn't acquired for altruistic purposes} is not enough to wipe out the deadly and corrupt practices of the past. One that we now get to live through to see the sheer scale of human suffering caused by the individual.

Ibime:
In how many words can a man hint that he is not in support of the Ukraine war than by saying he will donate all profits from selling Chelsea to Ukraine war victims

When you are Russian, you don't come out and say you don't agree with Putin, that's almost suicide, but there are other ways to do it that Putin will understand and let you off.

Even FBS won't talk about his thought on the war, before he get a knock on the door from KGB, na Roman go come talk

Many Russian sports stars have been showing their sympathy without condemning the war because they know what that curtails. Smart men are not hot headed.

But it's not enough. Not for someone who was responsible for this in the first place. He is more than wealthy enough and prominent enough to take an open stance against Putin. Or even achieve it via back channels. Roman now has a global image. He's not one who people will Just forget if something dared to happen. He's wealthy and influential enough in order strong European governments to effect visible change.

He has not done enough.

donjazet:


But it's not enough. Not for someone who was responsible for this in the first place. He is more than wealthy enough and prominent enough to take an open stance against Putin. Or even achieve it via back channels. Roman now has a global image. He's not one who people will Just forget if something dared to happen. He's wealthy and influential enough in order strong European governments to effect visible change.

He has not done enough.

You can't go through life like this with no sense of pragmatism

That's like asking Dangote or Danjuma to go all out attack on FG

Most of his assets are in Russian companies. You are asking him to sign his death warrant and the impoverishment of his family like Berezovsky. Berezovsky was closest to Putin, formed and funded a political party with the sole aim of getting Putin elected. Criticised Putin after few months for changing laws so that the President could sack and appoint Governors. For that single criticism, Berezovsky is now dead after many years of exile and asset seizures. It's Berezovsky small boy Roman that you want to come and now raise shoulder. As things stand, nigga has already seen 30-40% of his wealth wiped out in the last week. He does not hold large shareholdings in Western countries. Russians don't so as not to get their assets frozen. Almost everything he owns was hammered on Russian stockmarket last week.

Roman is an Israeli at heart and also by Nationality. He can't come and kill himself over Russia matter anymore than say FBS will go on the street and jeopardise his family. Baba will soon pack up to Tel Aviv and let una kill unaself dey shout Russia, Russia. Nigga has protected himself from Western sanctions by having the Israelis fight his corner, and simultaneously protected himself from Putin by ensuring he tows Putin line. There is nothing like being friendly with a despot, you simply survive a despot by not rocking the boat. A despot has no friends.

One is supposed to learn from how Roman has kept both sides from attacking him, ensuring he is in good standing in both West and East. He does that mostly by keeping his mouth shut and is not afraid to lose money to gain acceptance, just like he gave away Chelsea just to keep his good name in the West. He bought Chelsea for £17m and it's now worth maybe £2bln and he's giving all the profit to Ukraine. That means the guy is ready to let go £2bln just to keep his political standing in the West. Same way he gave Berezovsky £1.3bln for patronage in Russia just to have good standing in Russia. Same way he's been donating tens of millions to Jewish causes to buy good standing in Israel. I'm sure in his mind he expects Israel to one day save him from Russian persecution itself, either from Putin or a future President. Baba has laid the trap already by entering Israeli society and getting good standing with them knowing they will die before giving up their own. Man knows how to manoeuvre, and how to give up money to keep his life and peace of mind.

donjazet:


But it's not enough. Not for someone who was responsible for this in the first place. He is more than wealthy enough and prominent enough to take an open stance against Putin. Or even achieve it via back channels. Roman now has a global image. He's not one who people will Just forget if something dared to happen. He's wealthy and influential enough in order strong European governments to effect visible change.

He has not done enough.

You think life is easy like that? Everyone knows Putin is a killer, but you want Abramovich to challenge Putin, risking his wealth and life because of what? Do you realize Roman might not like Putin personally but has to put on a front to save his life and business. He has seen what happened to his friends who got on the wrong side of Putin in the past and you want him to do the same?

When Roman from his bed "accidentally falls from a skyscraper" shebi US, EU and donjazet will change Twitter DP for a few days, Do Hashtag Roman lifematter and we will move on like the time of Jamal Kashoggii

In Nigeria why has Dangote, Otedola and Adenuga not openly challenged FG? Do you think they agree with everything Buhari GEJ and OBJ were doing?
This is not America where you can get away with govt criticism. Everyone knows how things work in the real world not fantasy world of idealism. Even in America where we think things are free, Many politicians, public figures and businessmen who talk trash about Trump in private will not criticize him openly while he was in power.

His Attorney General Bill Barr released a book trashing Trump, His security advisers did the same after he left office, why do you think they didn't do that when he was in power?

Your boss at work, Your VC in Uni, your state governor, your community head all steal money, why have you not gone all out to challenge them to their face

I have seen improvements in your thinking over the years but you still have a long way to go in differentiating real world affairs from fantasy

When you have business, success family etc that matter to you to protect you will realize why many men who shouted like you in the past kept quiet later in life

Ibime:


You can't go through life like this with no sense of pragmatism

That's like asking Dangote or Danjuma to go all out attack on FG

Most of his assets are in Russian companies. You are asking him to sign his death warrant and the impoverishment of his family like Berezovsky. Berezovsky was closest to Putin, formed and funded a political party with the sole aim of getting Putin elected. Criticised Putin after few months for changing laws so that the President could sack and appoint Governors. For that single criticism, Berezovsky is now dead after many years of exile and asset seizures. It's Berezovsky small boy Roman that you want to come and now raise shoulder. As things stand, nigga has already seen 30-40% of his wealth wiped out in the last week. He does not hold large shareholdings in Western countries. Russians don't so as not to get their assets frozen. Almost everything he owns was hammered on Russian stockmarket last week.

Roman is an Israeli at heart and also by Nationality. He can't come and kill himself over Russia matter anymore than say FBS will go on the street and jeopardise his family. Baba will soon pack up to Tel Aviv and let una kill unaself dey shout Russia, Russia. Nigga has protected himself from Western sanctions by having the Israelis fight his corner, and simultaneously protected himself from Putin by ensuring he tows Putin line. There is nothing like being friendly with a despot, you simply survive a despot by not rocking the boat. A despot has no friends.

I think you partly make my point. Your entire post highlights the art of self preservation and that's logical. We can accept that at the end of the day, this corrupt Russian Babaginda or dangote who became wealthy at the expense of lives and the Russian citizens and set up a dictator would get to live a fulfilled life. It's the way of the world. We can resign ourselves to the hopelessness of the situation but what we CAN'T DO is celebrate and idolize the criminals.
We need to ask ourselves this one question.

WHY DID ROMAN BUY CHELSEA?
In the answer to that question, you see the machinations of an evil billionaire at work. He used the club to insure himself against harm and launder his image after not just killing people but setting up his country for decades of tyrannical leadership.
In an ideal world, he's in jail certainly not celebrated and idolized.

Ibime:


You can't go through life like this with no sense of pragmatism

That's like asking Dangote or Danjuma to go all out attack on FG

Most of his assets are in Russian companies. You are asking him to sign his death warrant and the impoverishment of his family like Berezovsky. Berezovsky was closest to Putin, formed and funded a political party with the sole aim of getting Putin elected. Criticised Putin after few months for changing laws so that the President could sack and appoint Governors. For that single criticism, Berezovsky is now dead after many years of exile and asset seizures. It's Berezovsky small boy Roman that you want to come and now raise shoulder. As things stand, nigga has already seen 30-40% of his wealth wiped out in the last week. He does not hold large shareholdings in Western countries. Russians don't so as not to get their assets frozen. Almost everything he owns was hammered on Russian stockmarket last week.

Roman is an Israeli at heart and also by Nationality. He can't come and kill himself over Russia matter anymore than say FBS will go on the street and jeopardise his family. Baba will soon pack up to Tel Aviv and let una kill unaself dey shout Russia, Russia. Nigga has protected himself from Western sanctions by having the Israelis fight his corner, and simultaneously protected himself from Putin by ensuring he tows Putin line. There is nothing like being friendly with a despot, you simply survive a despot by not rocking the boat. A despot has no friends.

I wonder why Roman is the focus of all these people, Is he Putin? Does he have a special attachment to Putin? Is he a Kremlin member

E be like say people who trade in outrage and get offended just want to make him a scapegoat of something not directly connected to him

Maybe jealousy from other club fans ranking up in the UK parliament. Liverpool, Arsenal Man Utd fans something cos this thing don dey pass ordinary eye. With his previous visa issue seemed like they never liked him he hasnt even stepped into the UK for many yrs, this Ukraine just gave a perfect excuse to give a dog a bad name

Like blaming Dangote for the atrocities of Buhari or Jonathan

raumdeuter:


You think life is easy like that? Everyone knows Putin is a killer, but you want Abramovich to challenge Putin, risking his wealth and life because of what? Do you realize Roman might not like Putin personally but has to put on a front to save his life and business. He has seen what happened to his friends who got on the wrong side of Putin in the past and you want him to do the same?

When Roman from his bed "accidentally falls from a skyscraper" shebi US, EU and donjazet will change Twitter DP for a few days, Do Hashtag Roman lifematter and we will move on like the time of Jamal Kashoggii

In Nigeria why has Dangote, Otedola and Adenuga not openly challenged FG? Do you think they agree with everything Buhari GEJ and OBJ were doing?
This is not America where you can get away with govt criticism. Everyone knows how things work in the real world not fantasy world of idealism. Even in America where we think things are free, Many politicians, public figures and businessmen who talk trash about Trump in private will not criticize him openly while he was in power.

His Attorney General Bill Barr released a book trashing Trump, His security advisers did the same after he left office, why do you think they didn't do that when he was in power?

Your boss at work, Your VC in Uni, your state governor, your community head all steal money, why have you not gone all out to challenge them to their face

I have seen improvements in your thinking over the years but you still have a long way to go in differentiating real world affairs from fantasy

Enough with the fake patronizing already. Now, as I just told Ibime, I don't really expect anything from Roman. I don't think there is anything he could do to undo the evil he's already done. HOWEVER, it's atrocious that people would know what he's done, especially pertaining to his Kremlin links and the legacy we now suffer and still choose to selfishly celebrate him. If Roman was not the owner of Chelsea and we knew what we knew about him, people would certainly cheer his demise. But you see people celebrating a criminal simply because we are benefactors. That's selfishness at its core.

raumdeuter:


I wonder why Roman is the focus of all these people, Is he Putin? Does he have a special attachment to Putin? Is he a Kremlin member

E be like say people who trade in outrage and get offended just want to make him a scapegoat of something not directly connected to him

Maybe jealousy from other club fans ranking up in the UK parliament. Liverpool, Arsenal Man Utd fans something cos this thing don dey pass ordinary eye. With his previous visa issue seemed like they never liked him he hasnt even stepped into the UK for many yrs, this Ukraine just gave a perfect excuse to give a dog a bad name

Like blaming Dangote for the atrocities of Buhari or Jonathan

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Part of your answers.

raumdeuter:


I wonder why Roman is the focus of all these people, Is he Putin? Does he have a special attachment to Putin? Is he a Kremlin member

E be like say people who trade in outrage and get offended just want to make him a scapegoat of something not directly connected to him

Maybe jealousy from other club fans ranking up in the UK parliament. Liverpool, Arsenal Man Utd fans something cos this thing don dey pass ordinary eye. With his previous visa issue seemed like they never liked him he hasnt even stepped into the UK for many yrs, this Ukraine just gave a perfect excuse to give a dog a bad name

Like blaming Dangote for the atrocities of Buhari or Jonathan

mostly this.

NinjaXmetahuman:
mostly this.

This is not true.
Let's use an analogy that hits closer to home.
Buhari and Tinubu. We all know that Tinubu is one of the wealthiest and most influential men in Nigeria and this government today. Tinubu is strongly the reason buhari succeeded in becoming president. Tinubu was influential in choosing the most powerful men in high offices that run the and he indirectly affects the issues of the country from behind the scenes.

Now first of all, imagine a scenario where buhari is a dictatorial tyrant that apart from ruling with an iron hand in Nigeria expands upon invasion of sovereign countries disrupting global order but most importantly cause untold human suffering and humanitarian crises.

Short of engaging in war with buhari, the most effective strategy of getting to buhari is by tightening the noose around tinubu so that he could also pull his weight around buhari.

Just simply imagine the tinubu you know l, as wealthy, powerful, corrupt owning and running a football club very well. That he owns that club, is it enough to wash away his crimes against Nigeria?

donjazet:


Enough with the fake patronizing already. Now, as I just told Ibime, I don't really expect anything from Roman. I don't think there is anything he could do to undo the evil he's already done. HOWEVER, it's atrocious that people would know what he's done, especially pertaining to his Kremlin links and the legacy we now suffer and still choose to selfishly celebrate him. If Roman was not the owner of Chelsea and we knew what we knew about him, people would certainly cheer his demise. But you see people celebrating a criminal simply because we are benefactors. That's selfishness at its core.

What are these evil that Roman has personally done with evidence

donjazet:


I think you partly make my point. Your entire post highlights the art of self preservation and that's logical.

A mans first duty is to his family. It's mostly psychopaths and people with low empathy that give up their life for political struggle or in pursuit of justice. Most rational men want to be alive to guide and love their children. Those willing to die for ideals usually end up being despots themselves if they ever make it to power because a man who is willing to give up his life for his ideals also expects the citizens to do the same. That's how most of those Chairman Mao and Lenin policies led to millions of death. And it didn't matter if people died, it was for the greater good. All of them from Putin, Hitler, Guevara, Fidel and co don't value their lives and lived recklessly and willing to die at any moment in their youth. Even that Sowore that will leave his family in Yankee for four years, fly to Nigeria to the heat of the action where he knows he is a wanted man, to come and start provoking the people in power, knowing he will get his movement restricted and not see his family for years. If that nigga ever seize power, he will be a despot down the line despite his good intentions because he has a despotic personality and little empathy for his daughter nor instincts of fatherhood and care.

donjazet:


This is not true.
Let's use an analogy that hits closer to home.
Buhari and Tinubu. We all know that Tinubu is one of the wealthiest and most influential men in Nigeria and this government today. Tinubu is strongly the reason buhari succeeded in becoming president. Tinubu was influential in choosing the most powerful men in high offices that run the and he indirectly affects the issues of the country from behind the scenes.

Now first of all, imagine a scenario where buhari is a dictatorial tyrant that apart from ruling with an iron hand in Nigeria expands upon invasion of sovereign countries disrupting global order but most importantly cause untold human suffering and humanitarian crises.

Short of engaging in war with buhari, the most effective strategy of getting to buhari is by tightening the noose around tinubu so that he could also pull his weight around buhari.

Just simply imagine the tinubu you know l, as wealthy, powerful, corrupt owning and running a football club very well. That he owns that club, is it enough to wash away his crimes against Nigeria?

and before the war, why were they after Abrahamovic? To get him to slap putin?

Na why I say this person no sabi wetin him dey talk rara. As in, just way off the mark. E be like say ogogoro dey worry am.

So because he is rich enough he should take an open stance against Putin? Mr man, where did you come from? Do you know what or who you are talking about? Have you been to Russia before? Ever heard of Berezovsky and many others I won't even bother to mention.

What sort of nonsense is this?

NinjaXmetahuman:
fake

The problem, I felt he even played worse than those stats highlighted. He literally did nothing!

donjazet:


But it's not enough. Not for someone who was responsible for this in the first place. He is more than wealthy enough and prominent enough to take an open stance against Putin. Or even achieve it via back channels. Roman now has a global image. He's not one who people will Just forget if something dared to happen. He's wealthy and influential enough in order strong European governments to effect visible change.

He has not done enough.

This ur statement show you know nothing. So if u are Roman you would go and confront putin.

donjazet:


Thank you very much!! That's enough to hate the man times 10. When you learn of his murderous past, times it by 100. I understand that people are not there yet that's why they don't understand my over insistence on this. Spending billions to build up a football club {which wasn't acquired for altruistic purposes} is not enough to wipe out the deadly and corrupt practices of the past. One that we now get to live through to see the sheer scale of human suffering caused by the individual.

Please, I'm only repeating your words. No join me with you abeg.

FBS:
Na why I say this person no sabi wetin him dey talk rara. As in, just way off the mark. E be like say ogogoro dey worry am.

So because he is rich enough he should take an open stance against Putin? Mr man, where did you come from? Do you know what or who you are talking about? Have you been to Russia before? Ever heard of Berezovsky and many others I won't even bother to mention.

What sort of nonsense is this?

Your comprehension skills (or lack thereof) is astonishing. So because I didn't mention other power players, it makes my point invalid? I hate people like you who excel in criticizing opinions or trying to punch holes in logical submissions just for the sake of it. Without proferring your own opinion. You just sit back and type, this one is a fool oo, this one is mad oo, this one no get sense oo but at the end of the day, you have nothing upstairs as a counter point to the narrative.
That is just plain senselessness.
At least you can see how Ibime and dayo offered their own indepth although it was besides my point not counter.

Go and grow a brain homie. It's not okay to just criticize for the sake of it, offer your counterpoint.

That being said, I'm overwhelmed with the conundrum all these present. It leaves a very bittersweet feeling behind.
There are only 2 positives one can derive from all what his happening.
1. The comeuppance and Waterloo that finally befalls a wealthy, powerful and influential criminal that has evaded justice for a long time. A shame it took too long for him to face all these. We must all be happy when a criminal is punished. The Western democracies are right in their actions here. All of us aligned with their principles have to stand with them.
Our brand Chelsea will no longer be associated with a known criminal. Hopefully we get a "relatively clean" billionaire who loves the club as much as the criminal did. One who also shares that passion about Chelsea succeeding in all areas.

Secondly, I think that the club being sold might be a positive in the shortest term, surely whoever is buying the club right now will definitely inject a very substantial liquid cash into the club almost immediately. We don't know how it works out long term but surely, they will be a huge cash injection into the club almost immediately. Roman's financial injection in the last few years had actually dwindled significantly. He only put in 19 million last year. That's not to say he didn't try. He never took money out of the club. That alone is a huge deal but there is a sense that he wasn't injecting as much as he used to.

So righteous

I hope he also realises that killing isn't the only way to harm people, taking advantage of them will over the long term lead to their demise

If you agree with the above

Which company in the world today is spotless

"LA Dodgers owner Todd Boehly has already shared his winning philosophy when discussing his aim in sports amid talks that he..."

LA Dodgers owner...

LA Dodgers...

God forbid

On the other hand; there are quite many causes for concern right now.
This is a quick fire sale, it wasn't planned long term.
Meaning plans that were long term in the works are abruptly ended right now.
Almost everyone in that boardroom will know their end is now near as new owners will bring in their own people. Marina, Bruce buck, Peter cech and high ranking staff etc will most likely be out of a job soon.
Such upheaval from the top means whatever they had in mind pertaining player contracts, transfer targets and negotiations that had been initiated are all in the gutter now.
It certainly doesn't look good now that 3-4 major players contracts are expiring because no player would like to be in such an unstable environment anymore. I think this makes it more unlikely that anyone going out will like to stay.


Then of course, there is the uncertainty as to who we could get as a new owner.
Abrahmovic is the only single individual who has pumped as much as he had into a football club, others are practically nation states. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi.
Do we find another nation-state, like Beirut perhaps?

Even Tuchel's job might not be secure. Changing owners is a really big deal. New owners want to start afresh bit hopefully they don't break what is not broken.

donjazet:
Attacks from all angles, even friendlies.
I can understand, some of you have really not understood the depth to which Abrahmovic sunk to get his wealth.
1st things first , Google aluminum wars Russia, like I did. Then take your time to read the 1st 7 articles, both outdated since early 2000's and the latest. Hear from the horse's mouth, some of his court testimonies. Hear from his friends turned rivals, some of who prominently turn out dead from either suicide or poisoning. Hear other former Kremlin associates directly point the finger at him and say these in UK court's.
Also go to YouTube and do the same,they are some fascinating insightful videos and documentaries touching on the subject.

As I said earlier, we were all blind to his history. It's really a big deal for me that the only reason I got to love someone deeply was simply because he was spending cash. It really exposes how shallow we all are and I'm sorry but I hold myself to a better standard. I parade myself as an idealist. One who strives for perfection. Sometimes it makes one appear as "oversabi" or "foolish" or a "moral ground stander".
I accept all tags, not everyone can evolve at the same pace. I'm an atheist in a society where we're less than 10%. I'm a liberal in 95% conservative society. It's nothing new to be called foolish by retrogrades.
The least you could all do is assimilate more information about things you value to have a stronger stance on things.

All these are plenty and long shalayes..

Why haven't you condemned the niccur since? Why didn't you Google about his ill-gotten wealth before joining the club? Are you a saint? You are just ranting bro. If you can't stand the heat, GTFO the kitchen!! Stop supporting shekpe. There are over 50 clubs in the UK. Choose anyone but definitely not man utd.

This dude is the intelligent version of trevor12.

BTW, fvck Putin. And fvvk abrahimovich.

BlueMann:
"LA Dodgers owner Todd Boehly has already shared his winning philosophy when discussing his aim in sports amid talks that he..."

LA Dodgers owner...

LA Dodgers...

God forbid

Americans? I love this news.

Havertz10:
So righteous

I hope he also realises that killing isn't the only way to harm people, taking advantage of them will over the long term lead to their demise

If you agree with the above
Which company in the world today is spotless

Well, maybe not companies but wealthy individuals.

The bast example for this I think is the Walton siblings. The owners of Walmart. Their father built up Walmart, the biggest and richest retail store company in the world, however he did it, clean or not, he's dead now and passed his inheritance to his children who are now some of the richest people in the world.

I wouldn't hold a candle to them as to how they spend their money so far as it's not causing harm to anyone. Some may decide to donate a large portion to charity. If we have such as owners, that would be the ideal situation.

Donjazet claims are not to be taken serious this is someone who claimed to support abortion but when he got his girlfriend pregnant he was struggling to abort the baby because it involves him. His virtue signalling is nothing but a deceit to fool unsuspecting people.
Donjazet did you later abort the pregnancy since you support abortion?

E dun happen

All rise!!!

Ibime:


British press used to love writing on Berezovsky. Just Wikipedia him, it's all there. Beresovsky messed himself up cos he paid for Putin's election and brought him to power, but he started acting like Godfather telling Putin what to do and criticising him for being authoritarian. Roman outsmarted him in the relationship with Putin. When Putin wanted control of the TV channels so he could control the news, Roman bought the channels from Beresovsky and gave them to Putin. Beresovsky then sold all his Russian companies to Roman at knockdown price and ran to London. No oligarch is closer to Putin than Roman. I even think Roman is much much richer than what we see on Forbes. So much money in Russia is hidden. I don't see how someone with reported net worth of £10bln will blow £1bln of it on football. That guy got more than that.

Why should my affection for Chelsea be affected? Strong men own clubs everywhere.

Ibims na this your post create wahala for ground. A donjazet without any previous knowledge or clear opinion on the matter don suddenly turn into a subject matter expert.

Amoto94:
Donjazet claims are not to be taken serious this is someone who claimed to support abortion but when he got his girlfriend pregnant he was struggling to abort the baby because it involves him. His virtue signalling is nothing but a deceit to fool unsuspecting people.
Donjazet did you later abort the pregnancy since you support abortion?

What nonsense is this?? Where did this ever happen?? Why would you concoct this lie against me?
At least it's good to see you shed the sanctimonious face you put on here when 2 people are having problems and expose the demon within. The fact that you would concoct this lie in your head and present it as fact is truly mind-blowing. Go back to supporting your terrorists and praising the murder of innocent people in the name of honor killings.