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felixotalu1:
exactly my thought.weather russia win or not at the end of the day the greatest winner will be the US.

Frankiss44:
Even if sanctions are lifted, US and its allies will negotiate on a stronger term

Nukilia:
More sanctions will lead to the economic destruction of other EU states.

Balkan:
you guys are kids. Keep listening to western fake media like CNN

Ayed44:
At the beginning of this war, Putin threatened that he will destroy any country that helps Ukraine in the war... But today Putin is begging EU and NATO not to supply arm to Ukraine. So what happens to his earlier threat?

Putin is just grossly overrated.

ChangetheChange:


The war has gone urban guerilla warfare, it is now a full blown insurgency, which is very expensive and hard to sustain.

There already hundreds of US and European , NATO, mercenaries in Ukraine training , arming assisting various militia groups against the Russians and setting up more militant cells across Ukraine with no central command structure.
NATO and United States(CIA) will keep funding and arming different militant groups and even set up terrorist cells all over Ukraine which will make the entire Ukraine ungovernable and hard to capture for Putin and Russia

Soffyh:
you see people like you are the reasons for Putin frustration, Putin keeps saying he don't want nuclear war, he is warning them now before it's turns to real war, USA can't tolerate this but they keep supplying weapons to strengthen Ukraine,until when they frustrated him to launch nuclear weapons then u will know he can wipe them in 48hr,when he said stop supplying weapons he knows what he is saying, he knows the kind of weapons they are sending,USA want to be using Ukraine hand to slap Russia,so you people don't know the evil here,person that's is adding petrol into fire is the real evil, USA and nato can go with peace talk with Putin and Ukraine, ask urself do u expect whole Russian to surrender to Ukraine?? They will rather bombarded everything

Hashabiah:
[s][/s]A fool like you doesn't read so you can't understand the Ukraine crisis. Prior to this rant you said , there were four dates , 1962, 1989, 2008 and 2014. But we shall examine the first two so as to keep things simple :

So let us digest them one after the other :

The Cuban border crisis of 1962

In 1962, the Soviet Union/Russia tried to install a military hardware in Cuba, which threatens US directly because Cuba border them by water. The then president of US, Kennedy threatened Russia with World War if they do not remove their military installation. The Soviet premier Nikiti Khrucshev rebuffed him which brought the world close to nuclear Armageddon, where it took 13days of negotiation, military diplomacy, death of an American military pilot, destruction of an American spy plane and the removal of American missiles from Turkey, to solve. That's what we came to know as The Cuban missile crises of 1962.

Question: Russia honored the request of the US then , so why doesn't the US honor Russia's request now ?


2. Fall of Berlin wall 1989

The Berlin wall fell in 1989 and the process of the integration of the western and eastern Germany started. 1989 is really important because as the process of integration were going on, James Baker, the US secretary of state promised the Soviet union/Russia that NATO (military organization led by the Americans) will not expand one inch towards the Russian border. This promise went a long way to facilitate the unification of Germany as we know it today. This is significant because when the Soviet union fell in 1991, the US broke that promise in multiple ways by expanding NATO to the Russian borders to include countries like Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Czech Republic etc.

Question : So why did NATO violate this agreement? Where is the justification in that ?

If you can't answer these two questions, then Putin is justified and the red line was crossed . Therefore ,it us you who is ignorant and daft.

komekn:
You are a petty LIAR and ignorant.

I gave no dates specifically. I talked about periods and what you can call watershed moments. Changes in the people expectations that's why I mentione, Perestroika.

What you fail to appreciate is that Communism was highly and brutally repressive but not socio economically beneficial.

The only constant in life is CHANGE .

The adoption of capitalism and the rejection of communism resulted in globalisation and massive FDI in the Soviet Union.

Globalisation comes with socio economic and cultural change as well as political.

Eastern Europe has CHANGED in its expectations socio economic and political and cultural. They don't want to go back into the dark ages of communism and it's repression. The people have chosen.

Ukraine gave all its nuclear weapons to Russia as an assurance that they seaked peaceful coexistence at independence. They no longer adopted the Russians military ideology and cold war ethos.

They have aligned themselves to Western Europe not Russia. After the peaceful in uprising that removed the very unpopular Russian stooge, Yanukovych in 2014. Russia tried to upstage it, but failed.

Immediately after Russia started to destabilise the country. And literally invaded Ukraine seizing Crimea.

Poroshonko cam into power but lost in 2019 to a non political actor, his name is ZELENSKY he was a comedian but the people loved him he won an overwhelmingly majority of the vote 73% .

Imagine Ay or Basket mouth winning presidency in Nigeria. The powers that be the old corrupt politicians will never allow it to happen.

ZELENSKY was pro Europe that's what the people wanted they have changed and they have chosen Europe.

Putin cannot impose his singular will and desire on a sovereign country. He may not like the decision of the people but that's DEMOCRACY and it is the will of the Ukrainian people. They will rather die than become enslaved to Putin and his delusional grandiose ambitions of a new Soviet Union.

NigeriaZoo:
Putin is not mad enough to start World War 3 because he also has children and he knows the consequence is total annihilation of Europe, Russia and the USA with the aftermath causing mass death across the world.

Russia will only use nuclear weapons if their country is invaded and they are on the verge of losing the war or their very existence as a nation is under severe threat. In such a case, nuclear weapons will no doubt be used as a last resort.

We are more likely to see a nuclear attack in Europe or the USA carried out by terrorists rather than Russia.

Don't worry, there is no nuclear war yet, but it may happen in the near future.

lwisee:
That's Putins style my friend he never comes out straight and he lies a lot.

sosanova:
Mumu poverty smelling stark illiterate
Those kids will feed u and ur father and ur entire family.
If Putin is winning the war, why is he asking US and NATo to stop sending weapons to Ukraine, sometimes try to use ur brain and stop speaking from ur anus....bomboclaat

komekn:
You are a petty LIAR and ignorant.

I gave no dates specifically. I talked about periods and what you can call watershed moments. Changes in the people expectations that's why I mentione, Perestroika.

What you fail to appreciate is that Communism was highly and brutally repressive but not socio economically beneficial.

The only constant in life is CHANGE .

The adoption of capitalism and the rejection of communism resulted in globalisation and massive FDI in the Soviet Union.

Globalisation comes with socio economic and cultural change as well as political.

Eastern Europe has CHANGED in its expectations socio economic and political and cultural. They don't want to go back into the dark ages of communism and it's repression. The people have chosen.

Ukraine gave all its nuclear weapons to Russia as an assurance that they seaked peaceful coexistence at independence. They no longer adopted the Russians military ideology and cold war ethos.

They have aligned themselves to Western Europe not Russia. After the peaceful in uprising that removed the very unpopular Russian stooge, Yanukovych in 2014. Russia tried to upstage it, but failed.

Immediately after Russia started to destabilise the country. And literally invaded Ukraine seizing Crimea.

Poroshonko cam into power but lost in 2019 to a non political actor, his name is ZELENSKY he was a comedian but the people loved him he won an overwhelmingly majority of the vote 73% .

Imagine Ay or Basket mouth winning presidency in Nigeria. The powers that be the old corrupt politicians will never allow it to happen.

ZELENSKY was pro Europe that's what the people wanted they have changed and they have chosen Europe.

Putin cannot impose his singular will and desire on a sovereign country. He may not like the decision of the people but that's DEMOCRACY and it is the will of the Ukrainian people. They will rather die than become enslaved to Putin and his delusional grandiose ambitions of a new Soviet Union.

loswhite:
NATO will only join the war when Putin attacks Poland.
If Russia wants a war with NATO he knows what to do.
It is a war that will be devastating for Everyone.
This is why responsible organizations like NATO are doing everything possible to avoid it but stupid Putin supporters thinks Russians are immuned to nuclear Bombs.

ObamaMessi:
You are living in the stone age.Go and read what is happening now.That is a media propaganda, I suppose.

KingOKON:
No be only bomb na bomber, Putin will regret his mother birthed him after this war
Like a fowl is he gonna die

wagzy37:
Democracy my ass! Zelensky won because of Igor Kolomoisky. Google his name. Dude hates Russia and installed Zelensky as president. Zelensky was an actor in a media project created by Kolomoisky way before he became president. You think Zelensky is a Saint? How can you be worth billions from acting? The west and Kolomoisky made that possible in a bid to spite Russia. You realize that NATO's efforts in Europe have a major goal - to stop Russia.

People think that Zelensky is trying to get NATO to get involved. There are many reports that say that civilians are not being targeted. Guess what Zelensky is doing, he's giving weapons to ordinary civilians. So Russian's can't distinguish between Ukrainian military and civilians because everyone is carrying arms now. That's why it seems like the war is hard for Russia to win. They don't want to kill civilians.

There are also reports from people in Ukraine saying some of these bombings are actually done by Ukrainian government to spark media outrage

Politics is a dirty game. The civilians dying are described as collateral damage.

wagzy37:
Democracy my ass! Zelensky won because of Igor Kolomoisky. Google his name. Dude hates Russia and installed Zelensky as president. Zelensky was an actor in a media project created by Kolomoisky way before he became president. You think Zelensky is a Saint? How can you be worth billions from acting? The west and Kolomoisky made that possible in a bid to spite Russia. You realize that NATO's efforts in Europe have a major goal - to stop Russia.

People think that Zelensky is trying to get NATO to get involved. There are many reports that say that civilians are not being targeted. Guess what Zelensky is doing, he's giving weapons to ordinary civilians. So Russian's can't distinguish between Ukrainian military and civilians because everyone is carrying arms now. That's why it seems like the war is hard for Russia to win. They don't want to kill civilians.

There are also reports from people in Ukraine saying some of these bombings are actually done by Ukrainian government to spark media outrage

Politics is a dirty game. The civilians dying are described as collateral damage.

Grinch41:
My exact fears,and that's why I think this Ukraine/Russia war won't end anytime soon.You don't end a war by pumping weapons into it.

Very soon, militias and all sort of groups will spring up in Ukraine elongating a senseless war.

The US and NATO are a big problem to this world.

Hashabiah:
Can Ukraine compete ? Let them send weapons , the Russians will crush the capitalist pigs

ChangetheChange:

US (CIA) and NATO in their usual style will keep funding, arming and setting hundreds of militant groups for for hit and run insurgency/ urban warfare tactics as long as Russian forces are still on ground in Ukraine, Ukraine will be like Libya where different militant groups control different territories and all have same goal to attacking or ambushing Russian forces and military equipment and they go into hiding after every attack.
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Areola14:
Many people listen to news but they know not what's going on..... Russia can truly take over Ukraine within 48 hours as putin said... but Russia is using tactics on them.... Russia way of fighting wars is different from America. ... Russia don't want to destroy Ukraine because putin knows that if he do that, Ukraine will become liability to them and so, they want to capture Ukraine government and install their own ally... unlike the America... they will capture and destroy and still install their person there.... Ukraine is too small for Russia to handle... Russia is not the only one going to fight...China is also talking about reclaiming Taiwan back now... watch out!

backbone503:
If you had said that to my face, you definitely would have lost some teeth. Well, this is one of the benefits of the internet for people like you. Enjoy!

Hashabiah:
Can Ukraine compete ? Let them send weapons , the Russians will crush the capitalist pigs

Stanleyq:
what do u hate about Ukraine

IgOga:
This war can easily go nuclear....if you are not armed in Nigeria be ready for herdsmen to rule over you. If this war goes nuclear the world will enter into a financial depression, banking as we know it will collapse, the internet may be gone...technology advancement will stop...Africa may survive a nuclear holocaust but will suffer the effects of nuclear war like the rest of the world...gangs will rule the street....law and order will be gone

Areola14:
Many people listen to news but they know not what's going on..... Russia can truly take over Ukraine within 48 hours as putin said... but Russia is using tactics on them.... Russia way of fighting wars is different from America. ... Russia don't want to destroy Ukraine because putin knows that if he do that, Ukraine will become liability to them and so, they want to capture Ukraine government and install their own ally... unlike the America... they will capture and destroy and still install their person there.... Ukraine is too small for Russia to handle... Russia is not the only one going to fight...China is also talking about reclaiming Taiwan back now... watch out!

Hashabiah:
I don't hate Ukrainians or Ukraine. I just hate the west and the hypocrisy it keeps using to undermine Russia's security . And that comes through Ukraine

NigeriaZoo:
At least verify the crap you wrote up there before spouting it on a public forum. Zelensky was democratically elected, overwhelming by the Ukrainian people. He won by a landslide in 2019 with 74% of the total vote.

He is not even a billionaire, where did you get that crap from ? He is worth $1.5 Million with an income of $11,200 Per Year.

https://techiegamers.com/volodymyr-zelensky-net-worth/

Next time get your facts straight and stop visiting conspiracy theory web sites !!!

greatness77:
ukrain is secretly crying, russia have captured several cities, if ukrain is truly wining why are they begging nato for no fly zone? Cant ukraine use their defence system to impose d so called no fly zone? For your information russia bulldozed several military infrastructures yesterday, west is using propaganda to gather mercineries, indeed ukrain is wining

Soffyh:
you see people like you are the reasons for Putin frustration, Putin keeps saying he don't want nuclear war, he is warning them now before it's turns to real war, USA can't tolerate this but they keep supplying weapons to strengthen Ukraine,until when they frustrated him to launch nuclear weapons then u will know he can wipe them in 48hr,when he said stop supplying weapons he knows what he is saying, he knows the kind of weapons they are sending,USA want to be using Ukraine hand to slap Russia,so you people don't know the evil here,person that's is adding petrol into fire is the real evil, USA and nato can go with peace talk with Putin and Ukraine, ask urself do u expect whole Russian to surrender to Ukraine?? They will rather bombarded everything