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Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Kenpaly(m): 8:58pm On Mar 13, 2022
Good day nairalanders, this is my first post abt this ukrain/rushia war since it stated.i have been studying the it since last two weeks that it started. Is not that im suporting anyone here but in the look of happenings, you can see that zelensky is loosing thousands of his troops. What is the demand of putin? Its very simple for zelensky to agree.putin's request is dat ukrain must not join nato and also for them to free peoples of lunesk donskn. After the ukrain surenda, putin will witdraw his troops in ukrain and the war will end.

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Gentlerespect76: 9:09pm On Mar 13, 2022
Correct prediction.

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by helinues: 9:12pm On Mar 13, 2022
Please what is Ukrain/Rushia?

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by advanceDNA: 9:19pm On Mar 13, 2022
Kenpaly:
Good day nairalanders, this is my first post abt this ukrain/rushia war since it stated.i have been studying the it since last two weeks that it started. Is not that im suporting anyone here but in the look of happenings, you can see that zelensky is loosing thousands of his troops. What is the demand of putin? Its very simple for zelensky to agree.putin's request is dat ukrain must not join nato and also for them to free peoples of lunesk donskn. After the ukrain surenda, putin will witdraw his troops in ukrain and the war will end.

And you said you are following this thing??
To you, this is how hostile invasion works??

Oh so you think Zelensky is just fighting for the right to join NATO??
He’s fighting for everything, his freedom, his presidential seat, the freedom of his sovereign nation...

If you think Putin will pat him in the back after winning...u must be joking...
Zelensky will either be killed, taken as prisoner of war, or exiled, which is even more shameful.

Putin will install his own puppet as president or just allow military that will report to him take over Ukraine ...

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Suspects: 9:29pm On Mar 13, 2022
Kenpaly:
Good day nairalanders, this is my first post abt this ukrain/rushia war since it stated.i have been studying the it since last two weeks that it started. Is not that im suporting anyone here but in the look of happenings, you can see that zelensky is loosing thousands of his troops. What is the demand of putin? Its very simple for zelensky to agree.putin's request is dat ukrain must not join nato and also for them to free peoples of lunesk donskn. After the ukrain surenda, putin will witdraw his troops in ukrain and the war will end.
and you still ended up typing in noise ahhh!

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by talk2hb1(m): 9:30pm On Mar 13, 2022
The Poster Don Take Coffee
Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Suspects: 9:33pm On Mar 13, 2022
helinues:
Please what is Ukrain/Rushia?
dumb noise!

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by yyba: 10:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
According to media not reality ukraine are winning the war 101% na grin

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Sadr: 10:40pm On Mar 13, 2022
NATO must join before this crisis is over. Ukrainians shouldn't be the only one that paid for US foolishness.
Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by BKayy: 10:43pm On Mar 13, 2022
If you need a simple answer to what is really happening in Ukraine, read this reply to someone about the topic
BKayy:

The problem sterns from the agreement between the Western bloc and Eastern bloc before the dissolution of Soviet Union.
NATO is not just an ordinary union anybody can join. It is a military cooperation of states allied to the United States. It is the military arm of Capitalism which was what the communist/socialists that make up the Eastern bloc stood against.

Before the fall of Soviet Union, the legitimate successor of the Union (Russia) had an agreement with the Western bloc (USA) that the Western bloc even if they don't allow dissolution of their own union should not move an inch into the Eastern bloc. After the agreement Soviet Union was disintegrated and 13 countries emerged from it.


In Putin voice, before the invasion he said [b]"our action will depend on the course of negotiations, on the unconditionally provision of Russian security today and in future. In this regard we have made it clear that NATO's further Eastern expansion is unacceptable. What is incomprehensible here? Are we placing missiles near the borders of USA? No. It was the USA that came to our border with their missiles. They are already in front of our home. Is it excessive to ask not to put more offensive systems in front of our house? How would USA react if we put missiles in Mexico or Canada? And did Mexico and USA have territorial issues? To whom California and Texas belonged to (Mexico)? Have you forgotten or what? OK, everything has calmed down, no one remembers about it like Crimea of today, wonderful (to the media). But we also try not to remember how Ukraine was created. Who created it? Vladmir llyich Lenin, when he created the Soviet Union. The union treaty of 1922 and 1924. True the constitution was after his death but they were created according to his principle. But the issue is of security now, God bless history, its the issue of security. Therefore it is not the course of negotiations that is important to us. I've said this part many times and you probably know it too well "not an inch to the East" they (USA) told us in 1990s. So what happened? They cheated us, they just blatantly deceived us"[/b]


That map you posted that shows Estonia, Georgia Etc being part of NATO is part of the evidence of the Western deception. They are on a mission to complete what no empire has ever done in history which is "Global imperialism". It is just like one person (nation) taking full control of the entire world. [b]Forget what the media shows you about Russia and the Eastern bloc but the Eastern bloc has shown in history to be the ones to accept self determination of related people within them.
The negatiation with Ukraine is not to force Ukraine to become part of Russia although Russia has history backing to do such (to most parts of Ukraine) if she wishes but for Ukraine to remain Neutral even if she hates Russia (the hate is not even possible because few aliens running the government of Ukraine doesn't show how the indigenes feel)

Now this brings about the two people holding the posts of President and Prime minister in Ukraine. The two are not ancestrally Ukrainians but two Jews that took over the Government few years after the last Western backed insurrection in Ukraine in 2014. The insurrection was not in military form but protests. Unlike the West, the Ukrainian authority bowed to few protesters waving flags against the decision of the many. This cannot be tolerated in the West, especially in USA. If you doubt, answer me these questions,
1. What is holding USA from declaring the independence of Hawaii, Puerto Rico, California & Texas?
2. Or Britain relinquishing their control over anglophone Africa and also declaring the independence of the 14 countries (including Jamaica that have 98% blacks) still under their direct control (colonialism).
3. Or France relinquishing their control over francophone African economy and also the few African countries in the Indian ocean that they have not yet granted independence.

My dear, Russia is not the aggressor, that is why in the western media/press conference they are yet to use any tangible reason to back up their support for Ukraine. This is why the president of America will call Ukrainians "Iranian people" and the VP of USA justifying her support that it is because "Russia is a big country and Ukraine small country, therefore Russia is the oppressor"
No western country can do what Soviet Union did by granting independence to 15 countries.
I can go on and on but I will like to stop here incase you have questions.

Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Niggmatic: 11:00pm On Mar 13, 2022
BKayy:
If you need a simple answer to what is really happening in Ukraine, read this reply to someone about the topic

Stop typing rubbish. Socialism is dead, communism is buried long time ago. This issue is purely a capitalist issue. The current Russian federation is a pseudo capitalist state with kleptomanic authoritarian oligarchs (elites) masquerading as socialist. The world currently does not have the kind of individuals that is capable of running a socialist state.

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by helinues: 11:33pm On Mar 13, 2022
BKayy:
If you need a simple answer to what is really happening in Ukraine, read this reply to someone about the topic

Copy and paste bunkum
Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by grandstar(m): 11:37pm On Mar 13, 2022
Kenpaly
Frankly speaking, I feel Ukraine giving in to Putin's demand is a small price to pay for peace. NATO membership isn't do-or-die. If NATO wants to be fair, it should not admit Ukraine into the club. It is obvious the US won't risk an unnecessary war with a world power with a power-hungry brute at its helm, one controlling thousands of nukes.

However, even if Ukraine gives in to Putin, he might still want more. He might want a greater say in the affairs of Ukraine, and that may be the dealbreaker.

Anyway, with the crippling sanctions heaped on the Russian economy, Putin has only shot himself in the foot, even if he does not want to admit it. He has left Russians impoverished and bitter.

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Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Totilopussylick(m): 1:10am On Mar 14, 2022
Gentlerespect76:
Correct prediction.
i would have taken it if it was prophecy by late prophet TB Joshua lipsrsealed
Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by Nobody: 6:29am On Mar 14, 2022
Kenpaly:
Good day nairalanders, this is my first post abt this ukrain/rushia war since it stated.i have been studying the it since last two weeks that it started. Is not that im suporting anyone here but in the look of happenings, you can see that zelensky is loosing thousands of his troops. What is the demand of putin? Its very simple for zelensky to agree.putin's request is dat ukrain must not join nato and also for them to free peoples of lunesk donskn. After the ukrain surenda, putin will witdraw his troops in ukrain and the war will end.

Do you have any money to bet on that? Can you put your money where your mouth is?
Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by joyandfaith: 7:46am On Mar 14, 2022
Kenpaly:
Good day nairalanders, this is my first post abt this ukrain/rushia war since it stated.i have been studying the it since last two weeks that it started. Is not that im suporting anyone here but in the look of happenings, you can see that zelensky is loosing thousands of his troops. What is the demand of putin? Its very simple for zelensky to agree.putin's request is dat ukrain must not join nato and also for them to free peoples of lunesk donskn. After the ukrain surenda, putin will witdraw his troops in ukrain and the war will end.

Ukraine is fighting for independence. Luhansk, crimea etc belong to ukraine. Russia russified them. Russia has been terrorising ukraine for centuries. It was worse during era of Tsar of Russia empire. Then there was Russification
of Ukrainian. Russification was common during Soviet era. Bolshevic army defeated ukranian nationalist government after Russian revolution. Ukranian was made a republic in ussr. After dissolution of ussr, Ukraine became an independent countries. Now Putin-Russia wants to make Ukraine a puppet state.
Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by talk2hb1(m): 9:40am On Mar 14, 2022
Kenpaly:
Good day nairalanders, this is my first post abt this ukrain/rushia war since it stated.i have been studying the it since last two weeks that it started. Is not that im suporting anyone here but in the look of happenings, you can see that zelensky is loosing thousands of his troops. What is the demand of putin? Its very simple for zelensky to agree.putin's request is dat ukrain must not join nato and also for them to free peoples of lunesk donskn. After the ukrain surenda, putin will witdraw his troops in ukrain and the war will end.
Him Never Surrender Ooo
Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by BKayy: 11:16am On Mar 14, 2022
helinues:


Copy and paste bunkum
LOL. Posting my own comment is "copy and paste"

grin maybe you thought everybody here should be as dumb as most of the members of Nairaland.

Re: Zelensky/ukrain Will Surender To Putin In Coming Weeks. by fastmax365(m): 12:38pm On Mar 14, 2022
Then what??

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