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Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by EmperorHadrain(op): 10:29pm On Mar 23, 2022
They’ve been trying from the start of this long global nightmare to equate compliance with benevolence. Throughout 2020, they told us, inescapably, that putting on a mask (or two, or three) made you a Good Person (“Wearing is caring”); and then, throughout 2021, they told us, inescapably, that “vaccination” was (to quote the horrible Bergoglio) “an act of love,” so that the kindliest and most considerate of us were those who’d had as many jabs as possible.

Conversely, they portrayed the “anti-maskers” as a danger to us all, not just because they’d surely kill us (or at least “kill Grandma”) with their toxic exhalations, but, on top of that, because of their combustible “far-right” hostility to anyone—bus drivers, security guards—who dared to tell them what to do. The propaganda fostering that canard then took to casting “anti-vaxxers” as hideously selfish animals, utterly indifferent to the huge (imaginary) risk they pose to those who did get jabbed—a claim as obviously false as it was (and is) scientifically absurd.

I call it “obviously false” because, outside the fever-dream “reported” daily by the media, it’s always been the other way around. All along, it’s been the maskers who have always readily abused the “anti-maskers,” and then it was the “vaccinated” who chastised (or worse) those choosing, for whatever reason, not to get injected. And, of course, it was the latter, not the former, who, while getting pelted with such sanctimonious denunciation, have also been excluded, isolated, silenced, censored, fired, delicensed, fined and even jailed, or involuntarily committed, either for refusing to get jabbed, or for merely questioning the wisdom, or the consequences, of the “vaccination” program.

And then we’ve also heard, and some of us have seen, a certain darkening of personality among the “vaccinated,” or some of them—a marked new nastiness, intolerance, explosiveness, as if those “vaccines” were laced with choler, or its nanotechnological equivalent. I for one have been attacked insanely, out of nowhere, by the recently injected; and others have reported the same thing.

That history of nastiness against the non-compliant is the context in which we should now check out, and share, these poll results from Canada:

Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by WoundedLamb:
The war is now about vaccinated vs unvaccinated? Lol... Most Nigerians spend so much time looking for divisive lines. They must always find a way to create demarcations even in the smallest unit of society. The herd mentality is overwhelming. Religion, region, tribe, gender, age, social class, sexuality, marital status and now vaccination. Y'all must always form herds around everything and everywhere and thereby deny yourselves the chance to be individualistic in your judgment. More than 50% of Russians are vaccinated. Even the US government does not want war with Russia. So just state your opinion without trying to form herds so that you won't end up defending another person opinion just because you're in the same herd. Don't lump up vaccination with the war in Eastern Europe. Most of you don't even have a clue what the war is about but y'all go around pitching tents based on unrelated issues.

This report does not make vaccination good or bad. It is an interesting report but does not support anything the OP wrote up there. In fact, OP didn't even draw any conclusion from the report or make any reasonable reference to it. Yet he's riding on the strength of an existing herd (pro-Russia) to fortify his anti vaccination campaign.
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by tit(f): 11:01pm On Mar 23, 2022
WoundedLamb:
The war is now about vaccinated vs unvaccinated? Lol... Most Nigerians spend so much time looking for divisive lines. They must always find a way to create demarcations even in the smallest unit of society. The herd mentality is overwhelming. Religion, region, tribe, gender, age, social class, sexuality, marital status and now vaccination. Y'all must always form herds around everything and everywhere and thereby deny yourselves the chance to be individualistic in your judgment. More than 50% of Russians are vaccinated. Even the US government does not want war with Russia. So just state your opinion without trying to form herds so that you won't end up defending another person opinion just because you're in the same herd. Don't lump up vaccination with the war in Eastern Europe. Most of you don't even have a clue what the war is about but y'all go around pitching tents based on unrelated issues.
Are you anti science?
Don't you wanna know?
Or you want to keep us in darkness?
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by WoundedLamb:
tit:
Are you anti science?
Don't you wanna know?
Or you want to keep us in darkness?
Don't get me wrong, ma. I appreciate the data you shared (even without source). I should have probably started by stating that. However, the associated write-up is what I don't agree with. You shared some interesting statistical data but then went off on a tangent that is not in any way supported by the premise. Your article only aims to demonize vaccination and I don't see how your data supports that. So I'm saying it's OK to be against vaccinations but let's not lump up things. Vaccinated people saying Canada should pressure Russia into stopping the war does not support anything you wrote up there. Even in Canada where the report came from, people aren't necessarily divided along that line.

First, the title is misleading. Canadians don't want war with Russia. If the report shows anything, it's the fact that unvaccinated people are more sympathetic to Russia (not that vaccinated people want war with Russia). In fact, the reverse could be said to be case cause like I said, vaccinated people are saying Canada should pressure Russia into stopping the war (which means they don't want war). And quite honestly, it will be an interesting conversation to have. But sharing this report in an article that simply aims to trash vaccination is making a mess of the report because wanting Canada to sanction Russia in a bid to make them get thier soldiers out of Ukraine does not necessarily make the vaccinate people bad. In other words, you simply don't need this report if the goal to just to trashtalk vaccination.

And like I said, let's not form herds around this report. It is important that people judge the Ukraine/Russia issue without preconceived mindsets like "my fellow anti-vaxers are backing Russia, so let me fall in line".
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by EmperorHadrain(op): 11:43pm On Mar 23, 2022
WoundedLamb:
The war is now about vaccinated vs unvaccinated? Lol... Most Nigerians spend so much time looking for divisive lines. They must always find a way to create demarcations even in the smallest unit of society. The herd mentality is overwhelming. Religion, region, tribe, gender, age, social class, sexuality, marital status and now vaccination. Y'all must always form herds around everything and everywhere and thereby deny yourselves the chance to be individualistic in your judgment. More than 50% of Russians are vaccinated. Even the US government does not want war with Russia. So just state your opinion without trying to form herds so that you won't end up defending another person opinion just because you're in the same herd. Don't lump up vaccination with the war in Eastern Europe. Most of you don't even have a clue what the war is about but y'all go around pitching tents based on unrelated issues.
Chances are that if you fell for the Jewish jab tricks you will fall for this call to start WW3.

Why?

Because :.

1. You can't think for yourself and rely on propaganda establishment media.

2. Same media that shilled hard for the Jewish vaxx are the same ones promoting a war with Russia

3. The vaxx know that they've been duped and will rather see the world go up in flames than come down with Vaxx aids .

Now that is the honest truth.
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by EmperorHadrain(op): 11:45pm On Mar 23, 2022
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WoundedLamb:
Don't get me wrong, ma. I appreciate the data you shared (even without source). I should have probably started by stating that. However, the associated write-up is what I don't agree with. You shared some interesting statistical data but then went off on a tangent that is not in any way supported by the premise. Your article only aims to demonize vaccination and I don't see how your data supports that. So I'm saying it's OK to be against vaccinations but let's not lump up things. Vaccinated people saying Canada should pressure Russia into stopping the war does not support anything you wrote up there. Even in Canada where the report came from, people aren't necessarily divided along that line.

First, the title is misleading. Canadians don't want war with Russia. If the report shows anything, it's the fact that unvaccinated people are more sympathetic to Russia (not that vaccinated people want war with Russia). In fact, the reverse could be said to be case cause like I said, vaccinated people are saying Canada should pressure Russia into stopping the war (which means they don't want war). And quite honestly, it will be an interesting conversation to have. But sharing this report in an article that simply aims to trash vaccination is making a mess of the report because wanting Canada to sanction Russia in a bid to make them get thier soldiers out of Ukraine does not necessarily make the vaccinate people bad. In other words, you simply don't need this report if the goal to just to trashtalk vaccination.

And like I said, let's not form herds around this report.
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You just wrote a whole lot of shit without saying a damn thing .
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by WoundedLamb: 11:46pm On Mar 23, 2022
EmperorHadrain:
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You just wrote a whole lot of shit without saying a damn thing .
You're too emotional to engage.

Enjoy your day, sir.
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by EmperorHadrain(op): 11:47pm On Mar 23, 2022
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WoundedLamb:
You're too emotional to engage.

Enjoy your day, sir.
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And you never ever made any sense .

Conformity theorists.
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by etrange: 12:23am On Mar 24, 2022
OP, so your conclusion from this nice report is that vaccinated people want the world to end because they've realized vaccination was a mistake? And when you say vaccinated people want to bring the world to go up in flames, you mean they're doing this by asking Russia to stop the war in Ukraine? So what about the unvaccinated people? They want the Russian army to remain in Ukraine so as to save the world? And the vaccinated Russians are brainwashed by CNN, I guess.

You see, there might some interesting takeaways from this report (e.g. vaccinated people have more trust in the government's ability to do the right thing). But like someone already pointed out, it does not support the theories you have up there. Not even the US nor any Western country wants WW3 cause we all know the West will lose more even if the win the war in theory. Saying vaccinated people want the world to burn down is rather preposterous. And insulting or calling anyone with a contrary opinion brainwashed is ridiculous. Regardless of where you get your own news from, we all have access to it too. So people decide what to believe just as you did too. It's up to you to defend yourself, but you can't do that by fighting your audience.

#SayNoToWar
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by etrange:
WoundedLamb:
The war is now about vaccinated vs unvaccinated? Lol... Most Nigerians spend so much time looking for divisive lines. They must always find a way to create demarcations even in the smallest unit of society. The herd mentality is overwhelming. Religion, region, tribe, gender, age, social class, sexuality, marital status and now vaccination. Y'all must always form herds around everything and everywhere and thereby deny yourselves the chance to be individualistic in your judgment. More than 50% of Russians are vaccinated. Even the US government does not want war with Russia. So just state your opinion without trying to form herds so that you won't end up defending another person opinion just because you're in the same herd. Don't lump up vaccination with the war in Eastern Europe. Most of you don't even have a clue what the war is about but y'all go around pitching tents based on unrelated issues.

This report does not make vaccination good or bad. It is an interesting report but does not support anything the OP wrote up there. In fact, OP didn't even draw any conclusion from the report or make any reasonable reference to it. Yet he's riding on the strength of an existing herd (pro-Russia) to fortify his anti vaccination campaign.
I agree we like moving in herds, but then again, the report also shows they might not be totally unrelated as you stated. I think the issue here is the subjectivity of the interpretation. I stay in Canada and I've not heard anyone bring up vaccination while talking about the war but the again, there's something in the report that's worth discussing provided people are smart enough not to take sides based on labels they've given to themselves.
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by WoundedLamb:
etrange:
I agree we like moving in herds, but then again, the report also shows they might not be totally unrelated as you stated. I think the issue here is the subjectivity of the interpretation. I stay in Canada and I've not heard anyone bring up vaccination while talking about the war but the again, there's something in the report that's worth discussing provided people are smart enough not to take sides based on labels they've given to themselves.
I agree. They're not totally unrelated (statistically speaking) but one shouldn't influence our judgment of the other, that's the grand point. The report originated from Canada, but like you said, vaccination or lack of it hardly comes up when discussing the war. But knowing the way things work back home, it could quickly become a vaccinated vs unvaccinated kinda stuff. Thanks for the clarification.

Where have you been? smiley
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by etrange: 12:46am On Mar 24, 2022
WoundedLamb:
I agree. They're not totally unrelated but one shouldn't influence our judgment of the other, that's the grand point. The report originated from Canada, but like you said, vaccination or lack of it hardly comes up when discussing the war. But knowing the way things work back home, it could quickly become a vaccinated vs unvaccinated kinda stuff. Thanks for the clarification.

Where have you been? smiley
I've been busy, really. In Toronto, we live to work cry

How is Québec? I miss Montréal!
Re: Why Do The “vaccinated” Want A WAR With Russia, While The “unvaccinated” Don’t? by WoundedLamb: 12:52am On Mar 24, 2022
etrange:
I've been busy, really. In Toronto, we live to work cry

How is Québec? I miss Montréal!
Le Quebec se porte bien. On se regale de notre sirop d'érable tout en se preparant a profiter du printemps. grin
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