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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 12:46pm On Mar 25, 2022
AlphaTaikun:

@n3xt
I know... Lol.

Due dilligence is an integral part
of my DNA. I can't fall for the games of those without a pedigree on here... "Emi ke?"

I've been on NL since 2005 with
an older account and I can sniff
out any scam online and offline.
A famous maxim goes thus, "Only the paranoid survive." grin


Thanks again.

Cheers.


Lol...we have heard this before.
When it happens you won't know how it happened and I will be here reading and laughing.
Beware of over sabi sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chocho1: 1:11pm On Mar 25, 2022
please am searching for used and cheap gate..12ft
around isolo,okota,mushin axis
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kingdemu: 1:30pm On Mar 25, 2022
Blessedsunny2:


Truly you're humble boss, am so impressed the day I saw your handwork I realized that you're really a great man(Bosun shoyoye) always know that great men always faced challenges and jealousy from people


Seen is believing, I've confirmed that you're indeed a professional, welcome back!!!!!
I come in peace cheesy
Dunno why but I also love that guy Brabus, with all the controversies surrounding him. I've learnt a lot from him and other professionals on this thread.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 1:45pm On Mar 25, 2022
Oyinbo say put your money where your mouth is.
I come in peace.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kalu61(m): 1:54pm On Mar 25, 2022
n3xt:


I feel you plight but running errands is never part of the scope.

For reasons best known to the owner of the project, he can decide to make some changes. Don’t feel bad because of that. He’s only taking some loads off you.

Well done!
So long money is involved, trust is a difficult commodity. Anybody will do same. However, l'm not angry because of the decision he made but trying to downgrade all the efforts when l'm trying to impress him.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:05pm On Mar 25, 2022
kalu61:
So long money is involved, trust is a difficult commodity. Anybody will do same. However, l'm not angry because of the decision he made but trying to downgrade all the efforts when l'm trying to impress him.

It’s really not about money. It has a lot to do with our moral compass.

I’ll just say “Grow through what you go through.”

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 2:14pm On Mar 25, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


Yes you can stick to labour and supervision as stipulated by the contract but someone like me values folks that go beyond the call of duty and proves useful, if appropriate.

If I were you I would show the client the proof of previous payments so he can see and understand exactly what happened.

Please don't jump on the bandwagon of disgruntled contractors and those who bait them to act out.

Unless your client is a raving lunatic he will understand that prices changes. You can't fault him for his suspicion, after all we are all Nigerians and we know the score. This may be an excellent opportunity to build a bridge instead of tearing one down.

Good luck on your project.


"Please don't jump on the bandwagon of disgruntled contractors and those who bait them to act out."------agrred

All contractors now need to use their head
If you are taking a contract for a building
Write out the contract stage by stage
Write out the contract from Foundation to Germain floor
After the Germain floor completion
Write second contract from Germain floor to roofing level excluding roofing or to decking level excluding decking
Next stage write a contract for roofing or decking
Why-- the continuous change in Prices and the continuous unstable economy will do all parts well

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:15pm On Mar 25, 2022
Kingdemu:
Dunno why but I also love that guy Brabus, with all the controversies surrounding him. I've learnt a lot from him and other professionals on this thread.

Forget the theatrics, my last 4 major projects (July 2021 till date) are from nairaland.

We’re dealing with matured grown ups here who can make decision on their own.

And guess what, I’m always present on those sites 24/7.

_______

Dig and you’ll find out people are smarter and wiser.
_______

Feel free to engage me anytime, we don’t have to close a deal to be friend. Ask my once-upon-a-time friend, rajput4real grin
He knew I’m always ready to help without asking a kobo in return.

But make I no lie o, I think he sent me recharge card one day because he felt I’m always ready to offer help anytime he calls.

Rajput4real can call grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 2:19pm On Mar 25, 2022
kalu61:
So long money is involved, trust is a difficult commodity. Anybody will do same. However, l'm not angry because of the decision he made but trying to downgrade all the efforts when l'm trying to impress him.

Dude you need to stop
People make decision for lot of reason- the man have his reason to change how he do business
You didn't work his money for him
Nigerian include me are all pure evil and lairs
Don't blame him for protecting his interest
"trust" in Nigeria is VERY, VERY HARD

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:36pm On Mar 25, 2022
Blessedsunny2:


Truly you're humble boss, am so impressed the day I saw your handwork I realized that you're really a great man(Bosun shoyoye) always know that great men always faced challenges and jealousy from people

Seen is believing, I've confirmed that you're indeed a professional, welcome back!!!!!
I come in peace cheesy

Back to where? From where?

I’m always at https://www.kobocity.com/d/135-projects-by-nexthome-designbuild/88 dishing value back-to-back.

Thank you for the compliment. Looking forward a long and mutually beneficial business relationship.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:41pm On Mar 25, 2022
AngelicBeing:
Hian, the big masquerade of Ibadan kingdom, I dey jare, and l think Hajj Mufutau55 is considering contesting to be the Governor of Ogun state and also eyeing a Federal Post at the National level in 2023 to be made the Federal Minister of land and housing, all fingers crossed for Hajj Mufutau to be elected either as a Governor or Federal Minister and Egunmogaji will be appointed as the Special MARSHALL ( with koboko) for Country wide enforcement of building codes in Nigeria. cool
Hahahahah, trust me if we have those characters of Hajji Mufutau in affairs of government like he do here, in Nigeria. Things will turn around for better in shortest time. He is no nonsense man in every aspect of his life. Egundimeji Special Marshall for code enforcements opari, no more shortcut to quality.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kalu61(m): 2:45pm On Mar 25, 2022
GoodFaith:


Dude you need to stop
People make decision for lot of reason- the man have his reason to change how he do business
You don't work for his money for him
Nigerian include me are all pure evil and lairs
Don't blame him for protecting his interest
"trust" in Nigeria is VERY, VERY HARD
I'm not fighting you or complaining but ex-ray my experience with client base on matter arising from the thread this past few days.
How many time have you seen me comment here?

I never said he is a bad person or did a wrong thing but had misunderstanding. Well, quite unfortunately our society has made us believe everybody is pure evil and liars like yourself but if few persons stands out @GPower has proven his worth within SE and expanding.

What am trying to say is that client most time have issues with contractors or vendors or artisans and it does mean ALL NIGERIANS ARE PURE EVIL AND LIEARS. It's a kind of norm to have misunderstanding.

I rest my case.

I look forward to handle two of his project he won last week. I guess l posted a copy as sample here for a guy who asked for sample.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 2:52pm On Mar 25, 2022
kalu61:
I'm not fighting you or complaining but ex-ray my experience with client.

I never said he is a bad person or did a wrong thing. Well, quite unfortunately our society has made us believe everybody is pure evil and liars like yourself but if few persons stands out @GPower has proven his worth within SE.

I rest my case.

I look forward to handle two of his project he won last week. I guess l posted a copy as sample here.

Yesterday I called Ibo man in Lagos to sent 6 solar light to my brother
Total price was 108k
The dude didn't ask me for the money and he shipped the light
All I told him was to send me his account
Nigerian people are very difficult people and hard to trust
We Nigerians are bad News lot of time
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 2:54pm On Mar 25, 2022
kalu61:
I'm not fighting you or complaining but ex-ray my experience with client base on matter arising from the thread this past few days.
How many time have you seen me comment here?

I never said he is a bad person or did a wrong thing but had misunderstanding. Well, quite unfortunately our society has made us believe everybody is pure evil and liars like yourself but if few persons stands out @GPower has proven his worth within SE and expanding.

What am trying to say is that client most time have issues with contractors or vendors or artisans and it does mean ALL NIGERIANS ARE PURE EVIL AND LIEARS. It's a kind of norm to have misunderstanding.

I rest my case.

I look forward to handle two of his project he won last week. I guess l posted a copy as sample here for a guy who asked for sample.

You should understand I didn't exclude myself
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kalu61(m): 3:06pm On Mar 25, 2022
GoodFaith:


You should understand I didn't exclude myself
Hahaha, including yourself don't justify your fallacy of generalization about all Nigerians.




Anyways. Thanks for responding

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kalu61(m): 3:10pm On Mar 25, 2022
GoodFaith:


Yesterday I called Ibo man in Lagos to sent 6 solar light to my brother
Total price was 108k
The dude didn't ask me for the money and he shipped the light
All I told him was to send me his account
Nigerian people are very difficult people and hard to trust
We Nigerians are bad News lot of time
This things are not difficult. Most supplies does it. Infact, some dealer sees some purchase as chicken change to border about knowing they will get their money.

Are you identifiable, that's all is need.



Please, let the misunderstanding parties find grounds to settle their issues. Refunding should be made where necessary, work completed as specified and fund disbursed as agreed.

Ka udo chianu!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 3:13pm On Mar 25, 2022
kalu61:
Hahaha, including yourself don't justify your fallacy of generalization about all Nigerians.




Anyways. Thanks for responding

You want to talk to 100% my fiends
99% have bad news
Please Nigerians are bad news include me

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kalu61(m): 3:15pm On Mar 25, 2022
GoodFaith:


You want to talk to 100% my fiends
99% have bad news
Please Nigerians are bad news include me
Okay.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 4:04pm On Mar 25, 2022
Alright. That shows the figure I gave you was correct. Good luck on your project.

bixton:


Thanks.
Work is already done and cement used on site was 99 bags of cement.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 4:41pm On Mar 25, 2022
Matters arising on the BOQ usage in the construction industry.

Greetings to noble members of this forum.

I'e read with great care and concern issues some dissatisfied clients/members have had with the reliability of BOQ as a veritable document to manage the financial affairs of their projects.

First of all, by way of reintroduction (as a known and vocal member here), I'm a trained Quantity Surveyor whose profession is the primary custodian of BOQ preparation and application. I've prepared far too numerous BOQs in my sterling career as a QS to speak on this issue. This offers me not only the competence but experience to address the concerns of teeming users of BOQ services.

As a definition, a Bill of Quantity (BOQ) is a document that describes the items and scope of work to be done and their corresponding cost. From this definition, two critical parts forms the BOQ, viz, DESCRIPTION and COST. The two factors are inseparable. You cannot have a reliable cost without correct description and vice versa.

Facts about BOQs.
Documents needed to produce BOQs for building projects.
1) Drawings - Architectural, structural (as the case may be), electrical and mechanical services drawings.

2) Specification notes (if any).

3) Site information (physical visit or details of the site should be known).

For the purpose of this write up, I want to divide the phase of a construction project to precontract and post contract.

Precontract stage of a project means the planning stage; design of the clients' briefs, structural designs, MEP designs and consequently production of BOQs.

Post contract means the actual construction of the project on site. This means the Architect supervising his designs to make sure his drawings/designs are followed. The structural engineer supervising his designs too to make sure his designs are adhered to. So also is the MEP engineers supervising their designs to make sure their designs are complied with.

Here is the issue, most clients here do not go further to engage Quantity Surveyors to "supervise" his BOQs to ensure that the content of his BOQ is followed.

In a standard contract, Quantity Surveyors perform post contract services.

But in most projects from many clients here, Quantity Surveyors are only engaged at the precontract stage.

This is not to absolve the person that prepared the BOQ of liabilities.

I've prepared far too many BOQs for members here with very good feedback thereby turning them to repeat clients or further jobs referrers. This shows the level of satisfaction they must have derived from my Quantity Surveying services.

Also important is the fact that so many quacks have permeated the online space misrepresenting themselves as Quantity Surveyors thereby luring unsuspecting clients to offer QS services. I do not blame such clients that have fallen to these set of impostors but the system that allows them to infiltrate the practice system in the first place.

Conclusively, BOQs will continue to be an integral and very important part of the building and other infrastructure development procurement process and as such clients are enjoined to hire trained and registered Quantity Surveyors, who have their practice license on the line, if anything goes wrong during the services rendered unlike saboteurs who have nothing to lose if their advice goes wrong.

I welcome questions if you find this treatise interesting.

Peace.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 4:58pm On Mar 25, 2022
kopell:
Hahahahah, trust me if we have those characters of Hajji Mufutau in affairs of government like he do here, in Nigeria. Things will turn around for better in shortest time. He is no nonsense man in every aspect of his life. Egundimeji Special Marshall for code enforcements opari, no more shortcut to quality.
Gbam, gbamer, gbamest, thank you jare my brother, kudos to you cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 5:06pm On Mar 25, 2022
EgunMogaji2:
Flashback Friday - If You Like You Hang grin

Roll Call:

Hajji mufutau
Segcy Moore
A venture
Rubbish
Dennis 3D
Egin
Abdulwastech
Kenny
Topsy
Spider
Rotech77
Floflo
egunmogaji ( tuale o)
Kingsodigital (not the actual user name)
Dubem capital
Dabomb
Ericko
fastshiping
Brabus
Olumide for Christ
angelicbeing ( Oyinbo po ju )
Sweet home seller guy ( not the real user name)
Abuzaid.
Gbadex paint
Client ( Bikonu , ejoo yankuri)
Adanny
Skimaski
Timtol.
Allcopatec
Bixton
Boss
Greetings!!! grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:27pm On Mar 25, 2022
GoodFaith:



"Please don't jump on the bandwagon of disgruntled contractors and those who bait them to act out."------agrred

All contractors now need to use their head
If you are taking a contract for a building
Write out the contract stage by stage
Write out the contract from Foundation to Germain floor
After the Germain floor completion
Write second contract from Germain floor to roofing level excluding roofing or to decking level excluding decking
Next stage write a contract for roofing or decking
Why-- the continuous change in Prices and the continuous unstable economy will do all parts well

Yeah, they just need to carry the client along. Communication is very important. Corporations have Chief Information Officer, as an example.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:45pm On Mar 25, 2022
Everybody can claim to be good in public but in private it’s something else.

Some are contractors/clients in the day but armed Robbers at night
Some are contractors/ clients in the day but witches and wizards at night
Some are contractors/ clients in the day but 419 at night
Some are contractors/clients in the day but kidnapper at night
Some are contractors/ clients in the day but ritualists at night

For these ones, any opportunity to take advantage of someone else cannot be missed.

The days are evil and the heart of man is something else. You can no longer know them by their fruits because they don’t even bear fruits any more.

Pray and watch.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 5:53pm On Mar 25, 2022
Jeff68:
Hmm,, sometimes, the best answer for a fool is silence, those who know me here and have dealt with me, know it’s not about the money, it’s the principle of the thing! I don’t need to brag. Even the artisan knows this, I have given him chances upon chances and he cannot deny that.

I rest, answer not a fool in his folly.
in case your brother needs a welder, kindly give me a recommendation. I will definitely deliver

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 6:05pm On Mar 25, 2022
UC92:

Oga Sir, No No!!.
30 tons should be 30 tons anywhere, anytime.
The issue is this, complete 30 tons can only be delivered by a trailer, most atimes, accessibility to sites is usually an issue considering turning radius and the strength of the soil to be able to allow a trailer to deliver.
So what those vendors do is they promise you 30tons and end up coming with 25-27 tons knowing fully well that a trailer can't access your site. So they come with a double axle truck. That way they make extra profit.

If you really want to know about this, request for waybill before they offload the material at your site.

The waybill usually contains information like
Quantity of material in tons or kg
Size/grade of material
Number plate of the vehicle
Time of departure from the company.
Note: this is if you are buying direct from the company.

Well...sir drivers do cut what they call 10-20 headpans even more if they are delivering to private people ...waybill becomes obsolete and useless ..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:10pm On Mar 25, 2022
kopell:
Hummmmmm , Egun what is your intention for listing these names. I've do business with 8 of these names. Vendors or contractors over the years. My experience with some of those name ehen, you can give them your millions and go to bed without any drama. Our granpa Hajji mufutau can write book on each of these name for good services, average, fantastic, and ugly services. I can assure you the book will be a bestseller on amazon.

Make una no kill persin o.
Knowing Oga EgunMogaji, there is a reason for the listings.. I will like to know too..

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:13pm On Mar 25, 2022
EgunMogaji2:

Just reminiscing about old times ni Sir grin

Good old days... Lobatan o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 6:15pm On Mar 25, 2022
sonnie10:
Everybody can claim to be good in public but in private it’s something else.

Some are contractors/clients in the day but armed Robbers at night
Some are contractors/ clients in the day but witches and wizards at night
Some are contractors/ clients in the day but 419 at night
Some are contractors/clients in the day but kidnapper at night
Some are contractors/ clients in the day but ritualists at night

For these ones, any opportunity to take advantage of someone else cannot be missed.

The days are evil and the heart of man is something else. You can no longer know them by their fruits because they don’t even bear fruits any more.

Pray and watch.

So what do you want me to add to your above comments now
Nigerian are pure evil
Nigerians sold their soul for money
dishonest Nation and people
The day God created Nigerians devil didn't go to sleep that day

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:20pm On Mar 25, 2022
AngelicBeing:
Hian, the big masquerade of Ibadan kingdom, I dey jare, and l think Hajj Mufutau55 is considering contesting to be the Governor of Ogun state and also eyeing a Federal Post at the National level in 2023 to be made the Federal Minister of land and housing, all fingers crossed for Hajj Mufutau to be elected either as a Governor or Federal Minister and Egunmogaji will be appointed as the Special MARSHALL ( with koboko) for Country wide enforcement of building codes in Nigeria. cool

Egbon pata-pata, you wan put me for trouble?
Nigerian politics will never enter my body o.
If I am appointed, that may be a different story, but I will not last one month on the job before people kill me because I will not tolerate nosense; and we all know that Nigeria is a nonsense country.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 6:25pm On Mar 25, 2022
GoodFaith:


So what do you want me to add to your above comments now
Nigerian are pure evil
Nigerians sold their soul for money
dishonest Nation and people
The day God created Nigerians devil didn't go to sleep that day

They get away with a lot of impunity due to lawlessness.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:25pm On Mar 25, 2022
kopell:
Hahahahah, trust me if we have those characters of Hajji Mufutau in affairs of government like he do here, in Nigeria. Things will turn around for better in shortest time. He is no nonsense man in every aspect of his life. Egundimeji Special Marshall for code enforcements opari, no more shortcut to quality.

Oga Kopell, you know me better o. No room for foolishness. But Naija ppl go kill me if I wan operate my normal way. So, more reason I stay away from Politics eventhough I have some GodFathers who have invited me in the past to participate, but I no gree. I wan reach 100 years before I die. smiley

Hajji M.

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