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Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by oluobi(m): 3:31pm On Mar 25, 2022
Meninmen:
Actually, I think Kiev is the major target for Russia. The aim is to overthrow Zelensky and install a pro-Russain president that will do Russia's biddings.

No matter the outcome of this war, if Kiev remains under the control of Ukrainian troops and Zelensky remains president, then Russia wouldn't have achieved it's main objective. Reason being that Zelensky will always be Pro-west.
If you have ever listened to some military analysts who are objective, then you will agree Kiev has never been the target. Mind you, these analysts are from the same western countries.

Do you know the Western media hardly report that there's a serious battle going on in the Donbass area, where you have the most formidable battalion of the Ukrainian army(AZOV). That battalion is almost destroyed by Russia as we speak.
They(AZOV in Mariupol) cannot retreat, and they cannot get supplies from anywhere, that's why they are hiding behind civilians.

Whatever is happening around Kiev is truly a distraction, if you check the current map of Ukraine, the country has been divided into two, based on areas already captured and occupied by Russia.

I feel so sad because of civilians who have died or have been displaced as a result of this war.

Anybody who is a true friend of Ukraine should be more concern about bringing an end to this war, rather than fuelling it.

Those providing arms to Ukraine are doing so hoping the Russian soldiers would become demoralised, unfortunately, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

It's time for Zelensky to negotiate sincerely with the Russians, for the sake of the Ukrainian civilians who are dying daily. It doesn't matter if they kill all Russian generals in Ukraine, those are soldiers, who are doing their professional job. I have little sympathy for all the soldiers (na their job dem dey do).

For the sake of the civilians, it's time to put a stop to this madness.
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Nobody: 5:07pm On Mar 25, 2022
Meninmen:
Actually, I think Kiev is the major target for Russia. The aim is to overthrow Zelensky and install a pro-Russain president that will do Russia's biddings.

No matter the outcome of this war, if Kiev remains under the control of Ukrainian troops and Zelensky remains president, then Russia wouldn't have achieved it's main objective. Reason being that Zelensky will always be Pro-west.
But if dats the case, then the current law passed by the Ukrainian government is an excellent move...in summary d law stated dat d Ukrainian government can governed from anywhere instead of being attached to Kiev..They could move to any city like lviv, embassy in Poland etc... Taking kiev itself is practically useless if they can't get Zelenskyy & his cabinet..
Also according to locals, since d first attempt at kiev, d Russians where just shelling military targets in Kiev, Kharkov & other major cities.. They are more concentrated on Maripol & surrounding Ukrainian troops around Donbass who have being fortified thier since 2014, almost 60k troops are thier
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Nobody: 5:25pm On Mar 25, 2022
oluobi:
If you have ever listened to some military analysts who are objective, then you will agree Kiev has never been the target. Mind you, these analysts are from the same western countries.

Do you know the Western media hardly report that there's a serious battle going on in the Donbass area, where you have the most formidable battalion of the Ukrainian army(AZOV). That battalion is almost destroyed by Russia as we speak.
They(AZOV in Mariupol) cannot retreat, and they cannot get supplies from anywhere, that's why they are hiding behind civilians.

Whatever is happening around Kiev is truly a distraction, if you check the current map of Ukraine, the country has been divided into two, based on areas already captured and occupied by Russia.

I feel so sad because of civilians who have died or have been displaced as a result of this war.

Anybody who is a true friend of Ukraine should be more concern about bringing an end to this war, rather than fuelling it.

Those providing arms to Ukraine are doing so hoping the Russian soldiers would become demoralised, unfortunately, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

It's time for Zelensky to negotiate sincerely with the Russians, for the sake of the Ukrainian civilians who are dying daily. It doesn't matter if they kill all Russian generals in Ukraine, those are soldiers, who are doing their professional job. I have little sympathy for all the soldiers (na their job dem dey do).

For the sake of the civilians, it's time to put a stop to this madness.
Kiev and Zelensky has always been the target. Let me explain.

What was Russia's reason for invading Ukraine? Ukraine was planning to join Nato which will increase the Eastward expansion of NATO. Who is spearheading Ukraine's Ascension to NATO? Zelensky, who is the president of Ukraine and heavily Pro-west. Russia or Putin has no influence over Zelensky. So Russia decided to prevent that from happening by invading Ukraine. So, what do you think will be their objective? It's simple. Get Kiev, depose Zelensky and install a puppet govt that wouldn't take Ukraine into NATO. Simple! That is the objective of Russia invading ukraine.

You talked about fighting going on in Donbass area. Actually, fighting is going on in many Ukrainian cities. The strategy of Russia is to encirce Kiev and cut if off from other Ukrainian cities. That way, there will be no supplies into Kiev. And then, a major offensive on Kiev. That's the strategy.

If taking Kiev was never part of Russia's plan, why are they still bombarding Ukrainian cities? Why is the war still on going? Why are they trying to advance into Kiev? They are still fighting because they have not met their objective which is to capture the seat of govt and install a puppet govt.

Study this map below. You will notice the the Russia forces are trying to advance towards Kiev and at the same time trying to encirce the city.

Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Nobody: 5:30pm On Mar 25, 2022
Elsueno:
But if dats the case, then the current law passed by the Ukrainian government is an excellent move...in summary d law stated dat d Ukrainian government can governed from anywhere instead of being attached to Kiev..They could move to any city like lviv, embassy in Poland etc... Taking kiev itself is practically useless if they can't get Zelenskyy & his cabinet..
Also according to locals, since d first attempt at kiev, d Russians where just shelling military targets in Kiev, Kharkov & other major cities.. They are more concentrated on Maripol & surrounding Ukrainian troops around Donbass who have being fortified thier since 2014, almost 60k troops are thier
You are now understanding the point that Russia's main objective is to capture Kiev, depose Zelensky (possibly kill him), install a puppet govt in Kiev that can be controlled by Russia which wi effectively stop Ukraine's plan of joining Nato

Of course, it makes sense in a war to first destroy your enemies military hardware so that their resistance will be weak. That's why the west continuous arms supply to Ukraine is very important.

It's like what happened when Russia invaded Afghanistan. They targeted Afghanistan military equipment. But Afghanistan was continuously getting military supplies from the west (majorly from the US) and after about 9 years, Russia had to shamelessly leave Afghanistan.
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Caleycashh: 5:53pm On Mar 25, 2022
Meninmen:
You are now understanding the point that Russia's main objective is to capture Kiev, depose Zelensky (possibly kill him), install a puppet govt in Kiev that can be controlled by Russia which wi effectively stop Ukraine's plan of joining Nato

Of course, it makes sense in a war to first destroy your enemies military hardware so that their resistance will be weak. That's why the west continuous arms supply to Ukraine is very important.

It's like what happened when Russia invaded Afghanistan. They targeted Afghanistan military equipment. But Afghanistan was continuously getting military supplies from the west (majorly from the US) and after about 9 years, Russia had to shamelessly leave Afghanistan.
slowpoke wey ashawo born!!!
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Caleycashh: 5:54pm On Mar 25, 2022
Meninmen:
Kiev and Zelensky has always been the target. Let me explain.

What was Russia's reason for invading Ukraine? Ukraine was planning to join Nato which will increase the Eastward expansion of NATO. Who is spearheading Ukraine's Ascension to NATO? Zelensky, who is the president of Ukraine and heavily Pro-west. Russia or Putin has no influence over Zelensky. So Russia decided to prevent that from happening by invading Ukraine. So, what do you think will be their objective? It's simple. Get Kiev, depose Zelensky and install a puppet govt that wouldn't take Ukraine into NATO. Simple! That is the objective of Russia invading ukraine.

You talked about fighting going on in Donbass area. Actually, fighting is going on in many Ukrainian cities. The strategy of Russia is to encirce Kiev and cut if off from other Ukrainian cities. That way, there will be no supplies into Kiev. And then, a major offensive on Kiev. That's the strategy.

If taking Kiev was never part of Russia's plan, why are they still bombarding Ukrainian cities? Why is the war still on going? Why are they trying to advance into Kiev? They are still fighting because they have not met their objective which is to capture the seat of govt and install a puppet govt.

Study this map below. You will notice the the Russia forces are trying to advance towards Kiev and at the same time trying to encirce the city.
Ashawo pikin STFU... useless thing!
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Caleycashh:
Meninmen:
Actually, I think Kiev is the major target for Russia. The aim is to overthrow Zelensky and install a pro-Russain president that will do Russia's biddings.

No matter the outcome of this war, if Kiev remains under the control of Ukrainian troops and Zelensky remains president, then Russia wouldn't have achieved it's main objective. Reason being that Zelensky will always be Pro-west.
Actually you are a madman... given birth to by LovePeddler of a mother!!!
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Nobody: 6:06pm On Mar 25, 2022
Caleycashh:
Actually you are a madman... given birth to where of a mother!!!
Ode has spoken. grin no sense, no brain. Just open mouth waaaah and talk! Typical ode! grin grin grin
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Nobody: 6:07pm On Mar 25, 2022
Caleycashh:
Ashawo pikin STFU... useless thing!
Ode of life!!!! Useless thing! grin
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Nobody: 6:08pm On Mar 25, 2022
Caleycashh:
slowpoke wey ashawo born!!!
Ode!!! You will just know once. grin grin. No brain at all. Skul full of sand! grin grin
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by oluobi(m):
Meninmen:
Kiev and Zelensky has always been the target. Let me explain.

What was Russia's reason for invading Ukraine? Ukraine was planning to join Nato which will increase the Eastward expansion of NATO. Who is spearheading Ukraine's Ascension to NATO? Zelensky, who is the president of Ukraine and heavily Pro-west. Russia or Putin has no influence over Zelensky. So Russia decided to prevent that from happening by invading Ukraine. So, what do you think will be their objective? It's simple. Get Kiev, depose Zelensky and install a puppet govt that wouldn't take Ukraine into NATO. Simple! That is the objective of Russia invading ukraine.

You talked about fighting going on in Donbass area. Actually, fighting is going on in many Ukrainian cities. The strategy of Russia is to encirce Kiev and cut if off from other Ukrainian cities. That way, there will be no supplies into Kiev. And then, a major offensive on Kiev. That's the strategy.

If taking Kiev was never part of Russia's plan, why are they still bombarding Ukrainian cities? Why is the war still on going? Why are they trying to advance into Kiev? They are still fighting because they have not met their objective which is to capture the seat of govt and install a puppet govt.

Study this map below. You will notice the the Russia forces are trying to advance towards Kiev and at the same time trying to encirce the city.
Thanks for your detailed response.

Let me state here for the record, that I am not a military analyst, but I have read articles written by 3 military analysts(Bill Roggio, Rtd Colonel Douglas Macgregor and Larry C. Johnson).


From the articles and what I can actually see on ground, the reverse of what you wrote about Kiev seems to be the case. The Russians laid siege to kiev,so as to tie down Ukrainian manpower and resources there,so that the Azov battalion cannot get re-supplies, that is exactly what is happening now. The Azov battalion is the most formidable fighting unit in Ukraine. They are battle hardened. As it stands now, they are on the brink of defeat, it's a matter of time.

I don't think Russia will invade Kiev, but they will continue to carry out strikes on it to degrade the military.

As for Zelensky, Putin wished that by invading Ukraine, there would be a regime change, that's why he called on Ukrainian army to overthrow him. The same way Biden and co wished for a regime change in Russia by imposing all those sanctions.

Russian troops and their allies have captured most of Donbass and half of Mariupol, the Azov battalion is on the verge of defeat....that appears to be the main goal of this invasion.


It's sad that the countries that should mediate are adding fuel to the crisis, for selfish reasons. How I wish Angela Merkel is still the German Chancellor, that woman is tough and cool headed.
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Dididrumz(m): 7:52pm On Mar 25, 2022
Aromeh360:
You’ll die before Putin
Oh really? We'll see.
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by subcbouy:
nyong1:
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Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by ocelot2006(m): 3:29am On Mar 26, 2022
Igbofam:
Read well. Kyiv has Suburbs. The article talks about the outskirts of Kyiv. Little rural communities. You think you know more than the US who can see everything going on in Ukraine right from Space using their satellites?

Ukraine has reclaimed Irpin and also their sea port at Berdyansk
Correction, Berdyansk is still under Russian control. The Ukranians however damaged 1 Russian Navy Alligator Class Landing Ship via missile strikes. Embarrassing for the Russians, but Berdyansk is still under their control.
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by ocelot2006(m): 3:33am On Mar 26, 2022
obedience4:
Muripol is under siege it hasn't fall,
Get your fact's correct..
Russian troops have reached the city centre and the Chechen contingent have captured and planted the Russian flag on the city's administrative council's building. Yep, I think it's pretty over.
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by ocelot2006(m): 3:37am On Mar 26, 2022
Igbofam:
It has not been taken. Ukraine still has full control despite the mass bombings by Russia.

Afterall have you forgotten that same Russia asked them to surrender just 2 days ago?

If they have taken it why would they be asking them to surrender?
No the Ukrainians don't.
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by Seredebe: 12:27pm On Mar 27, 2022
iiifeoma320:
vladimir putin's will surely fail woefully on his bad and negatives plans for all over the world just because of his hatred for United States of America, and America nahhh your great grandfathers almost on everything's


United States of America, Nato and the west countries are definitely coming for you Vladimir Putin's just watch and see

I just pity those people supporting Vladimir Putin senselessly invasion of a sovereignty country, even to the extnt of some of them telling Ukraine's president to surrender his own nation to the aggressors, just imagine that, so assuming Cameroon invade Nigeria tomorrow and you are expecting Nigeria to surrender to Cameroon please in the name of what please it sound even stupid to hear
This one is gathering likes for her scam business. Dont just try to edit this post to beg
Re: ukraine Reclaims Irpin. Launches Counter Attacks In Kherson & Kyiv by colonelwealth(m): 2:09pm On Mar 27, 2022
mpire:
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Oponu you live in a shithole country. The only people that are happy are re.tarded clowns like you on nairaland who can't rell their left from their right.

In case you bastar.ds don't know, Ukraine generates electricity via nuclear power you jerkoffs and Putin's monkeys dont even have ordinary electricity to charge your Chinese phones.
I don't banter words with senseless animals such as you.
Good day.
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