ayindejimmy:


I give up on you. You don't read

That the truth ,their contract expires this year and they dont want to use russian rubles to pay for gas.The contract didnot indicate ruble payments.

AroleOduduwa2:


You said nothing to counter what I said, stop wasting my time, its clear you have zero knowledge of what you're talking about

Stop pouring oil on stone brother

Johnrake69:


Today's capitalist economies are run on the backdrop of cheap supplies. If only you understood what this means. Energy supply is a material cost in every economy. Africa can't compete with Russia for European market cost wise. Alot of deals will be going on through the back door. Even after they announce a shift.

Remember Russia supplies arms too. Russia is too big to be sidelined. The earlier they all find a diplomatic solution the better for everyone involved.

I agree with that last part. But ask yourself this question. Ahould Europe continue to fund an ever-belligerent Russian regime lead by a ruler who thinks he can bring back the height of Russian power in the USSR? Or should they bite the bullet and inflict as much pain as possible despite taking a little themselves in the meantime so as to nip the threat in the bud?

Which strategy do you think is better for the future integrity of Europe? No matter how you see this, Russia has lost this war and has been demystified. Whatever happens after the war, Russia is going to have way less influence than it used to.

Putin seriously miscalculated and has pushed even reluctant Germany and neutral Switzerland to move against it. That is not what he intended. He was hoping they will stand idly by due to the energy he supplied. He should have waited a few years for Germany to be totally dependent on them.

epondudu:
My citizens First
This is the real definition of a leader.

Exactly! This is how the Ukrainian president (Zelensky) should have thought before the war started in order for Ukraine to both get what it wants & for all sides to be happy as opposed to putting his entire country at risk for something he can't win at.

Buliwyf:


No that's not what happened. The US just wanted to get rid of the Maduro government because it was vehemently anti-US just like Hugo Chavez before him. And that's what led to the whole issue. Russia is going through the same phase Venezuela is going through. If care is not taken with all the sanctions they might start seeing double-digit inflation too.

Anti US in what way? Did he burn American flag? Did he ordered US diplomats out of Caracas? Did he refused to sell her oil to the US ? Did he attack any US base or mainland ?

How is he anti US?

And if Maduro was anti US, all the sanction they placed on Venezuela, was it on maduro alone or whole of Venezuela. If a nation cannot make her own decision without fear of a certain bully placing sanctions, then where is the sovereignty. Why would a powerful nation hide behind a weak one and charge her against another powerful one till it leads to war? What benefit will Ukraine in NATO bring to NATO and the US other than spite Russia and move US military base to Russian borders?

The point is, no country should have that sweeping power to place sanctions on the other nation for any reason. That role should be that of the UN alone.

Russia/USSR and US had been anti each other since 1945, their case isn't new.

US is placing sanctions on Russia for her war in Ukraine, who placed sanctions on the US over Libya, where a whole president was killed like bush rat and his body paraded on the streets. What was his crime? "He was anti-US too", ( the after effect is still affecting West Africa with Terror groups gallivanting across the Sahara with unprecedented level of arms proliferation never witnessed before in West Africa), who placed sanction on her over her ambugious wars in Iraq, who placed sanctions on her over Vietnam, Panama, Afghanistan, etc effectively turning all the countries she attacked into terror hot beds occupied by Taliban,AL Qaeda , ISIL, etc creating more regional and global headache for the world than whatever problems she pretend to want to solve by her initial invasion.

America is morally in no justified place to place sanctions on Russia, whatever the crimes we are correctly accusing Russia of at the moment, US had done ten times more and never got a slap not to talk of sanctions for it. Not even media condemnations as we do to Russia now.

Idaytesj29:


Anti US in what way? Did he burn American flag? Did he ordered US diplomats out of Caracas? Did he refused to sell her oil to the US ? Did he attack any US base or mainland ?

How is he anti US?

Russia/USSR and US had been anti each other since 1945, their case isn't new.

Come on. Maduro was a follower of Chavez and the US had been trying to get rid of them for long. Like I said, it has nothing to do with USD exchange for oil. That's what I wanted to correct you for.

Buliwyf:
Some people will start jumping up and down on this thread. Hungary doesn't even matter in Europe. Of course they are not as rich as the other countries so they can't reject Russian gas. And the president is facing an upcoming election so he will say anything.

The moment other big European powers shift from Russian gas, Hungary will quietly follow.

Please keep your sentiments aside and reason well like a human being, I know you hate Russia simply because they invade Ukraine fine but don’t shy away from the truth even the biggest countries in the world including US are somehow dependent on Russia natural gas and crude, currently crisis is brewing in all countries simply because of Russia and let me tell you this war isn’t just Russia invading Ukraine it’s a proxy war, Canada and US think they can destroy Russia international crude oil sales by liaising with Saudi QAtar and UAE along with other big oil producing countries but unfortunately those Arabic countries knows US move and don’t want to succumb to their plans… before you start hating on Russia unnecessarily think about how it all started, a common diplomatic means would have solved the problem but the US and NATO allies keep confusing President Zelensky not to sue for peace and stop the death of it citizens they intend to keep the war going destroying Ukraine along side hurting Russia economy but they got pained to see country’s refusing to cut ties with Russia even president Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey a NATO member state refused to succumb to their plans of asking him not to deal with Russia arms… all these people don’t want peace they know Russia is their major rival in both Arm sales crude oil and gas even war Russia bam

Bigchristo:
Please keep your sentiments aside and reason well like a human being, I know you hate Russia simply because they invade Ukraine fine but don’t shy away from the truth even the biggest countries in the world including US are somehow dependent on Russia natural gas and crude, currently crisis is brewing in all countries simply because of Russia and let me tell you this war isn’t just Russia invading Ukraine it’s a proxy war, Canada and US think they can destroy Russia international crude oil sales by liaising with Saudi QAtar and UAE along with other big oil producing countries but unfortunately those Arabic countries knows US move and don’t want to succumb to their plans… before you start hating on Russia unnecessarily think about how it all started, a common diplomatic means would have solved the problem but the US and NATO allies keep confusing President Zelensky not to sue for peace and stop the death of it citizens they intend to keep the war going destroying Ukraine along side hurting Russia economy but they got pained to see country’s refusing to cut ties with Russia even president Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey a NATO member state refused to succumb to their plans of asking him not to deal with Russia arms… all these people don’t want peace they know Russia is their major rival in both Arm sales crude oil and gas even war Russia bam

Fortunately I think more like a human being than you do obviously. But that's aside. Looks like you are on last month's news. Those UAE you are talking about are already signing deals with Europe to supply them. Sorry for jolting you back to reality.

So you mean a megalomaniac like Putin can just wake up one day and declare that Russia created Ukraine, claim Nazis rule Ukraine, make up stories out of nowhere and then you want a diplomatic dialogue with him? Remind me how Hitler became powerful again.

Trust me, people like Putin need to be checked once in a while. And he has just been given the biggest reality check of his life. Now he has achieved the opposite of his aim and other countries like Finland have started talking about NATO. The war will end and things will become better. But Russian influence will be far diminished.

Sensible leadership. It makes sense

Buliwyf:


I agree with that last part. But ask yourself this question. Ahould Europe continue to fund an ever-belligerent Russian regime lead by a ruler who thinks he can bring back the height of Russian power in the USSR? Or should they bite the bullet and inflict as much pain as possible despite taking a little themselves in the meantime so as to nip the threat in the bud?

Which strategy do you think is better for the future integrity of Europe? No matter how you see this, Russia has lost this war and has been demystified. Whatever happens after the war, Russia is going to have way less influence than it used to.

Putin seriously miscalculated and has pushed even reluctant Germany and neutral Switzerland to move against it. That is not what he intended. He was hoping they will stand idly by due to the energy he supplied. He should have waited a few years for Germany to be totally dependent on them.

I don't border reading further anytime i come across that statement in bold..
Anytime u see that statement just know that the writer has run out of propaganda..naso i de carry sabi dem

olas24u:


That the truth ,their contract expires this year and they dont want to use russian rubles to pay for gas.The contract didnot indicate ruble payments.

I post a link where Poland said by the end of this year they won't need Russian has again.

Oddfinder:

I don't border reading further anytime i come across that statement in bold..
Anytime u see that statement just know that the writer has run out of propaganda..naso i de carry sabi dem

All talk and no substance. You think Putin was banking on Germany and even Switzerland to move so hard against them? Come back when you can answer question logically.

Buliwyf:


Fortunately I think more like a human being than you do obviously. But that's aside. Looks like you are on last month's news. Those UAE you are talking about are already signing deals with Europe to supply them. Sorry for jolting you back to reality.

So you mean a megalomaniac like Putin can just wake up one day and declare that Russia created Ukraine, claim Nazis rule Ukraine, make up stories out of nowhere and then you want a diplomatic dialogue with him? Remind me how Hitler became powerful again.

Trust me, people like Putin need to be checked once in a while. And he has just been given the biggest reality check of his life. Now he has achieved the opposite of his aim and other countries like Finland have started talking about NATO. The war will end and things will become better. But Russian influence will be far diminished.

Russian influence can never diminish as you claimed and on a second note everything didn’t just happen Putin has been warning about NATO eastern expansion for a long time now before this invasion but the US keep pushing for it, Finland will equally suffer same faith as Ukraine and which the NATO and US know it if they admit them, same thing US did to Cuba when Russia was supplying them weapons, having a border with a world power automatically banned them from joining NATO it’s okay to stay neutral.

Bigchristo:
Russian influence can never diminish as you claimed and on a second note everything didn’t just happen Putin has been warning about NATO eastern expansion for a long time now before this invasion but the US keep pushing for it, Finland will equally suffer same faith as Ukraine and which the NATO and US know it if they admit them, same thing US did to Cuba when Russia was supplying them weapons, having a border with a world power automatically banned them from joining NATO it’s okay to stay neutral.

Lol. You are obviously not living in reality. Russian influence was at its highest in the cold war. Since then it has been a nose dive. So what do you mean by never diminish? They were even recovering over the past 20 years due to better European relationship with them but guess what will happen now?

ayindejimmy:


I post a link where Poland said by the end of this year they won't need Russian has again.

Yes i know ,they want to get from norway

Speaking from a position of weakness. They are not bad but not really useful for Russia or NATO. When the table turns, they move again.

Deeprooted:
What steps have Hypocritic US and UK taken to broker peace between the two waring parts?

They keep adding fuel to the fire �

UN too is not helping matters at all!

UN for where? They are an organ of the US. If not for Russia and China veto power, US would always have its way at the UN.

There's no genuine negotiation going on, because the US is more interested in bleeding Russia economically, than to save the Ukrainians dying daily.

Everyone in Ukraine can die for all they care, Russia is their target.

The earlier the foolish Zelensky realise this, the better for his people.

At the end of the day, they will still resolve everything on the table, why allow your citizens to be a sacrificial lamb for NATO and Russia. Lives lost cannot be brought back

[quote author=othermen post=111377159]In all of these sanctions, what should matter to you is having a leader who is looking after your interest, & not his/her own perception everywhere else.

“What does this economic warfare mean to my people” should underline the sanctions proposed but woke leaders. “Can we fill the gap that has occurred, such as supply to the nations affected?” “As Russia is in a weak spot, does that give us an advantage in negotiating trade deals with them?”

In Nigeria, that should be our outlook;we should be thinking, how can we benefit from the issue? And yes, with an absolutely amoral attitude. Even America’s posture no matter how characterized, transcends amoral stance. They may believe whatever show of strength redeems their image as the world only super power. The responsibility and benefit that comes with such an image is known to them.

ukraine sent over 10,000 soldiers to libya in d us led coalition, karma is dealing with him now

you texted it very well. Which also reminds me of the saying of South Africa president

"We never want to pretend we have a great influence that other countries have, but we are being approached. (To) condemn one (side) ... forecloses the role we could play," ~South African President Cyril Ramaphosa

othermen:
In all of these sanctions, what should matter to you is having a leader who is looking after your interest, & not his/her own perception everywhere else.

“What does this economic warfare mean to my people” should underline the sanctions proposed but woke leaders. “Can we fill the gap that has occurred, such as supply to the nations affected?” “As Russia is in a weak spot, does that give us an advantage in negotiating trade deals with them?”

In Nigeria, that should be our outlook;we should be thinking, how can we benefit from the issue? And yes, with an absolutely amoral attitude. Even America’s posture no matter how characterized, transcends amoral stance. They may believe whatever show of strength redeems their image as the world only super power. The responsibility and benefit that comes with such an image is known to them.

In the past, they have invaded countries because of their human and natural resources.
America and most of Europe is built on the back of Africans and the rest of the world naivety. China is taking similar posture, by venturing into Africa.

What was Ukraine reaction when America invaded nations in the past? Did they show solidarity with Libya or Iraq? What was Ukraine reaction when Mandela was sent to prison for apartheid? Did Ukraine support in whatever bit of way , our war against Terrorism? What has Ukraine done for us, that they deserve our sympathy and that we should be courageous on their behalf by condemning their aggressors? Those compelling us to condemn their aggressors would even invade us, destabilize our region if we are unfortunate enough to be powerful enough to influence global supply of oil or energy.

Again, in all of these sanctions, what should matter to you is having a leader who is looking after your interest, & not his/her own perception everywhere else.

obedience4:


Pro Russia outlets..

It OK sha..

maybe, but CNN, BBC, reuter are also pro-West.. No its 1-1.why will you believe one and not believe the other

Idaytesj29:


Anti US in what way? Did he burn American flag? Did he ordered US diplomats out of Caracas? Did he refused to sell her oil to the US ? Did he attack any US base or mainland ?

How is he anti US?

And if Maduro is anti US, all the sanction they placed on Venezuela, was it on maduro alone or whole of Venezuela. If a nation cannot make her own decision without fear of a certain bully placing sanctions, then where is the sovereignty. Why would a powerful nation hide behind a weak one and charge her against another powerful one till it leads to war? What benefit will Ukraine in NATO bring to NATO and the US other than spite Russia and move US military base to Russian borders?

The point is, no country should have that sweeping power to place sanctions on the other nation for any reason. That role should be that of the UN alone.

Russia/USSR and US had been anti each other since 1945, their case isn't new.

US is placing sanctions on Russia for her war in Ukraine, who placed sanctions on her over Libya,( the after effect is still affecting West Africa with Terror groups gallivanting across the Sahara ), who placed sanction on her over her ambugious wars in Iraq, who placed sanctions on her over Vietnam, Panama, Afghanistan, etc

America is morally in no justified place to place sanctions on Russia, whatever the crimes we are accusing Russia of at the moment, US had done ten times more and never got a slap not to talk of sanctions for it

This is the best comment on this thread. The truth is that the massive security challenges that is facing several African countries is a result of the US invading Libya. This created unprecedented access to arms and ammunition for non-state actors. The US invasion of any country has never brought about any good like they claim, but only destabilization of countries and regions.

Proudlyngwa:


That was england last two centuries.

UK is just like a grandparent this days on its dying days diplomatically.
Without the US it is useless

Who fought the Falkland War of 1982? You sincerely believe Great Britain can't fight wars?

Britain bloodied the nose of Argentina until they surrendered...

Go and ask Argentina!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pdrwQ46U0o

It's like you are either rejecting the fact or blindly following what they want you believe.
Kindly read the links below to correct your earlier words (bolded below)
https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/08/30/preparing-for-war-with-ukraines-fascist-defenders-of-freedom/

https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-congress-admits-nazi-role-in-ukraine/5455422

Buliwyf:


Fortunately I think more like a human being than you do obviously. But that's aside. Looks like you are on last month's news. Those UAE you are talking about are already signing deals with Europe to supply them. Sorry for jolting you back to reality.

So you mean a megalomaniac like Putin can just wake up one day and declare that Russia created Ukraine, claim Nazis rule Ukraine, make up stories out of nowhere and then you want a diplomatic dialogue with him? Remind me how Hitler became powerful again.

Trust me, people like Putin need to be checked once in a while. And he has just been given the biggest reality check of his life. Now he has achieved the opposite of his aim and other countries like Finland have started talking about NATO. The war will end and things will become better. But Russian influence will be far diminished.

It only means one thing.... U support Russian invasion of Ukraine and u will be treated as an enemy when the war is over......

gowaga68:
It's like you are either rejecting the fact or blindly following what they want you believe.
Kindly read the links below to correct your earlier words (bolded below)
https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/08/30/preparing-for-war-with-ukraines-fascist-defenders-of-freedom/

https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-congress-admits-nazi-role-in-ukraine/5455422

It's like you are either rejecting English blindly or following what you want to believe.

How does Neo-nazi participation in war equate to them running Ukraine? Or what are you talking about? Do you know how many armed Neo-nazi groups are in the US? You want to tell me that if you invade the US now and those groups take up arms and start fighting you, that means the US is run by Neo-nazi?

Sometimes a little contextual comprehension goes a long way. Now go back and correct your whole comment LMAO.

freshkpomo:
The whole of Hungary is behind Russia. They keep writing articles upon articles Against America fir their citizens to masturbate on as if it's America that us fighting the war. They believe Putin is the chosen one to lead the light fur Christians and Ukrainians are Jewish and they don't believe in Jesus.

They are happy to read about how America is indebted to China,how people will not use anericsn dollar, just anything About America give them orgasm and their media houses are cashing out big time lol.

Hungary is a traditionally Catholic country and still mostly holds its faith high. They have come under heavy criticism from the West on their (Hungary) resistance to abortion and gay unions.

dawnomike:
Workd politics... Every country has got to look out for her citizens first before others

True, even US will say "America first" which means they make sure that Economic, policitcal, national security and social well being of it's citizens is a priority before any other nation.
But the Mumu man zelensky or what ever he is called won't have that wisdom. He prefers that he citizens die and become refugees.

amuwo1980:
Opposite of bubu, his own country men are fulanis from any part of the world and livestock especially bovines

Lol! You hit the nail on the head.

obedience4:


Mind you do you know that the USA is actually the biggest natural gas exporter in the world..
They just sign a deal to supply EU..
Note the issue for the Russians is little by little the EU will stop depending on Russia.
The EU plan to phase out Russian oil by next fall.
UK has stop entirely..
People are investing on greenhouse energy now..

I'll bet, the price will be quadruple, what the hell am I even saying, it will be 100 times what they were paying Russia

The US is a cunningly wise Sly old snake

More cash out

ayindejimmy:


The only making most European countries still patronise Russia's oil is because it'll be the cheapest in the market.
Everyone will start giving conditions b4 they buy.
A lot of European countries have been working on alternatives to Russia's. Some will get there at the end of 2022 others are still far. But most are weary of Russia and the way Putin use its oil to blackmail

The problem was never finding alternatives,, the problem is the time it'll take to do so and also the hefty price it'll come with.

Just heard that the US will supply shipped gas to the EU soon.... Which means more cost for her citizens and big cash out for the US.
The US always have a way of manipulating any given situation for her Interest.

Neddstark:


Germany has been the financial powerhouse too

ok