₦airaland Forum

olas24u:
Dangote ,dangote became rich during Abacha era and he made money through government patronage and monopoly.He his facing dificulties in french african countries with traditional french family cement businesses .cement has become a normal commodity in europe and its no more a big deal ,they now use other technologies to build houses in few days.some houses are wooden while some are just metal.you can buy cement in a suoer market.south africa remains a british company controlled by majority white,the political power is what the black have now.

U are just saying different things that don't matter or are not directly relevant to this argument.

Offcourse dangote can't monopolize Nigeria and then monopolize Africa, there should be others either having their own monopoly in certain countries or regions. Business is open to the best or well connected.

I'm talking about ur incompetent government and how they irresponsibility is the bane of our uselessness as a country. U are talking about France and stupid francophone countries who are naive even until 2moro.

Nigeria has had several opportunities to develop they didn't and dangote has now done what they couldn't do.

olas24u:
Google south africa and see what it gives you on google.its a registred business likewise Nigeria ,goldie sold Nigeria to the british.

U are talking about historical jargons. Every nations has a past and after independence the begin a new path. Nigeria isn't the only colonised nation and many others are doing well mostly the non black nations.

jaxxy:
U are talking about historical jargons. Every nations has a past and after independence the begin a new path. Nigeria isn't the only colonised nation and many others are doing well mostly the non black nations.

There is a system problem in nigeria,those countries you mention dont practice unitary system of government.until we restructure nigerian,nothing will be okay and things will continue this way.mention a big country with a centralize system.it cannot work tbere must be devolution of powers.

jaxxy:
U are just saying different things that don't matter or are not directly relevant to this argument.

Offcourse dangote can't monopolize Nigeria and then monopolize Africa, there should be others either having their own monopoly in certain countries or regions. Business is open to the best or well connected.

I'm talking about ur incompetent government and how they irresponsibility is the bane of our uselessness as a country. U are talking about France and stupid francophone countries who are naive even until 2moro.

Nigeria has had several opportunities to develop they didn't and dangote has now done what they couldn't do.

In a free market economy there is competition ,we dont have competition in the cement business .The french african countries are black like you and me.Unity ofbthe black race will create an empire like the chinese.They are only waiting for Nigeria to fast track their own development,just like the chinese ,indians have impacted on others around them.

Lightorder:
oga that is what your country is not doing that has kept you all stagnated. It is called, ‘ diplomacy ‘

diplomacy?! bwaaaaaaah!
so you mean to say that diplomacy is NOT to let each and every country decide for themselves on how to deal with Russia, but instead to try to force them into doing what "you" want them to do?! go ask all the European countries (that depend on Russian natural gas and oil) how is this "diplomacy of yours" is gonna work for them.

jaxxy:
Has Russia not been invading for decades yet u praising them now. Iraq invade Kuwait cos of oil. U praised iraq and Saddam for it.

Bt u can call out the west who only invaded dictators and real threats?

I think u are biased cos of Eastern propaganda. Lol. Yes East have their propaganda that it's the west that's brainwashing bt they are the biggest hypocrites.

The bizarreness of your assumptions is outstanding. I'd be pleased if you can point out where anyone here (most especially myself) praised Iraq for invading kuwait like you claim.

Like I said before, your naivety clearly exposes you as a victim of western propaganda and it's actually pathetic seeing that people cant pause to think for themselves. Isn't it a shame that you justify the US illegally invading sovereign nations like Iraq and Afghanistan, murdering millions of civilians, both women and children? You casually termed it "invading dictators and threats" and feel no remorse about that?. You justify the US invading regimes which they believed were threats to them, but you crucify Russia for doing exactly the same?

And then most riduculous is that you castigate India for choosing to remain nuetral in the senseless dick measurement exercise between 2 superpower bullies? What you class as 'integrity' is for India to take sides with the western bullies again the eastern bullies?... Your sense of judgement and justice is clearly twisted.

Padipadi:
I v seen people here quoting me.
India has more poor people than Nigeria even though they re richer than us in every means. Including rich in more poor people.
I m not trying to put Nigeria as a better country.
But in face me I face you house, I better pass my neighbor generator is a champion. Nigeria has the right to brag that India has more poor people than her population, including those that has died since 1960.
I no get bad mouth. I just v to state fact!

Nigeria has nothing to brag about for wia India dey. India is 2nd most populous country and hence will have a larger number of persons per category of the socioeconomic strata. India's poverty rate is 68%, Nigeria's is about 40% but do not stop there. Between 1970 and now, if we rule out the COVID shock and the late 1970s shock, India has averaged 5% annual growth rate Nigeria on the other hand even after ruling out these shocks has been subject to huge swings about 0% annual growth rate (all though things got better in the 2000s. The Indian economy is driven by services (54%), industry (26%) and agriculture (20%) and this makes India relatively more stable but Nigeria GDP as we all know is heavily dependent on agriculture (25%) and trade (17%) followed by oil (9%). Nigeria's main source of foreign reserves is crude oil while India has had its reserves boosted by FDI. India as we speak has the 4th largest foreign reserves making it more resilient to both one-off and persistent shocks unlike Nigeria. India is a nuclear country with a sophisticated military but Nigeria is still managing AK 47s, tanks and 3rd generation jet fighters. I could go on and on. India presents a much better economic, military and industrial outlook than Nigeria by far.

jaxxy:
I will do my research on UNSC resolution.

As for Libya invasion I don't really support it bt the man was a dictator.

And the US has problems with dictators? Lol nah US has problems with anyone who doesn’t share their warped view of world domination.

Just so you know they “took out” gaddafi because he was pushing hard for African unity - OPEN BORDERS CONTINENTWIDE , ONE CURRENCY, More powers for AU - basically under his plan Africa would become like the EU and do you know how powerful Africa would then be?

Firstly the French would loose their ghoulish hold on francophone west and central Africa , the Brits would loose their hold on anglophone Africa same as the Belgians.

It would have been an Africa whose Military would be indomitable… that is why they killed him

Ojiofor:
I mean USA and NATO interpretation of neutrality in this conflict with Russia for them means you are on the side of Russia.

Oh yes. You are very correct on this

Jostoman:
May be india and China are indirectly supporting Russia. That's my observation

They are choosing to remain neutral because supporting any side has negative implications on them

dasparrow:
Good! I love India's stance. The West wants to rope other nations into this war with Russia. I think that African nations should not get involved in their saga. We have our own African problems to deal with. Let the West deal with their problems. This Russia - Ukraine war will divide our world into two groups. Those who support America/the West/NATO and those who support Russia/China/the rest of the world. We are watching.

only the neural ones stand to benefit.

USA wanted Israel to join in sanctioning Russia, Israel refused, today Israel with Turkey are the the countries mediating in the dialogue process between Russia and Ukraine. Both countries choose to remain neutral.

Russia has so far declined any US led effort at a dialogue.

Na countries wey get sense go gain. I just hope the people managing Nigeria understand this.

Padipadi:
India n China are snakes. China sef still get sense pass India. Very useless n corrupt country. More corrupt n poverty stricken than Nigeria
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I v seen people here quoting me.
India has more poor people than Nigeria even though they re richer than us in every means. Including rich in more poor people.
I m not trying to put Nigeria as a better country.
But in face me I face you house, I better pass my neighbor generator is a champion. Nigeria has the right to brag that India has more poor people than her population, including those that v died since 1960.
I no get bad mouth. I just v to state fact!

Truly u don't know anything oo

Padipadi:
I had to wipe out the gibberish you wrote at the top. Cos I don't support nor justify slavery. I had to say the bitter truth that Africans enslaved themselves in the past. If we cry of the trans atlantic slaves. What of the slaves of the interior-to-interior of Africans?
I m not pro west. I ll give any society credit where it's due.

1. I never said Russia colonized Africa. You need to be reasoning well when reading.

2. Kudos to Russia for fighting against apartheid in S/Africa

3. I know Russia hasn't waged war on African nations. Why ll they do that? Their oil is bigger than all the oils in Africa, we don't v nukes & their economy is bigger than that of over 30-50 African countries. So they are eise to choose their fight with their mates, e.g: America.

4. I never said Russia is African enemy or my personal enemy.

Last Bullet But I know Russia is currently aggressive & that must stop. If they cause more havoc or WW3 with this their Ukraine madness, you ll weep for them. Your country Nigeria too ll suffer cos when the war turns to free for all fight, it ll reach Africa. Anything to avoid WW3 is welcomed.
So we v to maintain peace.

I see no sense here

MrBrownJay1:
diplomacy?! bwaaaaaaah!
so you mean to say that diplomacy is NOT to let each and every country decide for themselves on how to deal with Russia, but instead to try to force them into doing what "you" want them to do?! go ask all the European countries (that depend on Russian natural gas and oil) how is this "diplomacy of yours" is gonna work for them.

you are still missing it. As a president, the interest of your people comes first. Right or wrong

27Pushing30:
And the US has problems with dictators? Lol nah US has problems with anyone who doesn’t share their warped view of world domination.

Just so you know they “took out” gaddafi because he was pushing hard for African unity - OPEN BORDERS CONTINENTWIDE , ONE CURRENCY, More powers for AU - basically under his plan Africa would become like the EU and do you know how powerful Africa would then be?

Firstly the French would loose their ghoulish hold on francophone west and central Africa , the Brits would loose their hold on anglophone Africa same as the Belgians.

It would have been an Africa whose Military would be indomitable… that is why they killed him

Which yeye gadaffi pushing for what?? Nobody gave a damn about him in Africa, what governmental structures did he have? A dictator wants to tell democratic nations how to rule their country?? Is he ok in the head??

Nobody sends him and that's why when they were invaded nobody really cared. Not even his people.

He rules Libya like his personal property and that's what u are hyping?? LMAO

West will dominate bt not stop others from growing. China growth was largely due to US strategic partnership bt now they think US is their enemy cos they (China) have made themselves unhealthy rivals.

obailala:
The bizarreness of your assumptions is outstanding. I'd be pleased if you can point out where anyone here (most especially myself) praised Iraq for invading kuwait like you claim.

Like I said before, your naivety clearly exposes you as a victim of western propaganda and it's actually pathetic seeing that people cant pause to think for themselves. Isn't it a shame that you justify the US illegally invading sovereign nations like Iraq and Afghanistan, murdering millions of civilians, both women and children? You casually termed it "invading dictators and threats" and feel no remorse about that?. You justify the US invading regimes which they believed were threats to them, but you crucify Russia for doing exactly the same?

And then most riduculous is that you castigate India for choosing to remain nuetral in the senseless dick measurement exercise between 2 superpower bullies? What you class as 'integrity' is for India to take sides with the western bullies again the eastern bullies?... Your sense of judgement and justice is clearly twisted.

If u are not praising Iraq for invading Kuwait are u condemning it or playing neutral like it friends India?? Cos it seems neutral is ur new position when it suits u.

How can Russia invade Ukraine and u support people playing neutral because us invaded a madman and dictator who invaded Kuwait and u kept quiet then?

The US didn't invade Venezuela despite everything happening there. The US invade Iraq and I think it's fair to shut up useless dictators who invade innocent countries.

Libya is the only misstep I can admit and even gadaffi was a ruthless dictator. He ruled Libya like his personal property. Hence the uprising

Its like supporting abacha for 3rd term and life president. Abacha wanted to be a gadaffi if he succeeded Then u will understand what Libyan were facing.

Is India not bullying Pakistan? china not bullying its neighbours in South china sea? Bt it's only US u see as bully now.

jaxxy:
Which yeye gadaffi pushing for what?? Nobody gave a damn about him in Africa, what governmental structures did he have? A dictator wants to tell democratic nations how to rule their country?? Is he ok in the head??

Nobody sends him and that's why when they were invaded nobody really cared. Not even his people.

He rules Libya like his personal property and that's what u are hyping?? LMAO

West will dominate bt not stop others from growing. China growth was largely due to US strategic partnership bt now they think US is their enemy cos they (China) have made themselves unhealthy rivals.

Why not first google Libya before Gaddafi first? You just exposed your ignorance

Even where the So called rebellion started from was a prosperous city

Every citizen of Libya was entitled to a share of Libya’s DAILY oil sales proceeds … I mean they got credit alert DAILY!

You marry and get a house and car to start life courtesy of the state

Africans (black) were treated as comrades In Libya under gaddafi

Baba I no fit talk ask Edo/deltans how Libya be before you yarn dust

jaxxy:
If u are not praising Iraq for invading Kuwait are u condemning it or playing neutral like it friends India?? Cos it seems neutral is ur new position when it suits u.

How can Russia invade Ukraine and u support people playing neutral because us invaded a madman and dictator who invaded Kuwait and u kept quiet then?

The US didn't invade Venezuela despite everything happening there. The US invade Iraq and I think it's fair to shut up useless dictators who invade innocent countries.

Libya is the only misstep I can admit and even gadaffi was a ruthless dictator. He ruled Libya like his personal property. Hence the uprising

Its like supporting abacha for 3rd term and life president. Abacha wanted to be a gadaffi if he succeeded Then u will understand what Libyan were facing.

Is India not bullying Pakistan? china not bullying its neighbours in South china sea? Bt it's only US u see as bully now.

Who gave you the right to play God by deciding who's a madman and who's not?

I never justified the invasion of any sovereign country; Russia vs Ukraine, India vs Pakistan, Iraq vs Kuwait, Israel vs Palestine, China vs Taiwan etc. I rightly called the US and Russia 'bullies' who selfishly disrespect thr rule of law whenever it doesnt favour them. But you're the one justifying the invasion of sovereign nations by the US under the warped excuse fed to you by western propaganda that "they are dictators". Who gave the US the right to invade anyone?....

Regarding India's neutrality, that's what wise countries do. Wise countries dont foolishly give up themselves to be used as puppets by anyone. The war in Ukraine today is just a proxy war between the US vs Russia. The US for decades has been trying to subdue its greatest superpower rivals and Ukraine foolishly chose to be the puppet in the dick measurement exercise between the US vs Russia. India isnt foolish enough to let themselves be caught in such a useless contest.

Oddfinder:
You support Ukraine because ur feelings and emotions were controlled and or influenced by thesame media..to every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction..u can't be dinning and plotting against me with my enemies and stil expect me to smile back at u.

Abeg shut up. Just say you support Putin's madness.

Padipadi:
I v seen people here quoting me.
India has more poor people than Nigeria even though they re richer than us in every means. Including rich in more poor people.
I m not trying to put Nigeria as a better country.
But in face me I face you house, I better pass my neighbor generator is a champion. Nigeria has the right to brag that India has more poor people than her population, including those that has died since 1960.
I no get bad mouth. I just v to state fact!

About Nigeria's future prediction, it's sad n realistic

They have a larger population, and last time I checked we overtook them in the "world with the highest amount of poor people" list. So stop it with this your bra bra.

27Pushing30:
Why not first google Libya before Gaddafi first? You just exposed your ignorance

Even where the So called rebellion started from was a prosperous city

Every citizen of Libya was entitled to a share of Libya’s DAILY oil sales proceeds … I mean they got credit alert DAILY!

You marry and get a house and car to start life courtesy of the state

Africans (black) were treated as comrades In Libya under gaddafi

Baba I no fit talk ask Edo/deltans how Libya be before you yarn dust

And his own people clobbered him to death in the streets? Abeg, all that shit was over processed lies. A dictator would always lie about how "good" their countries are. You can check the crazy propaganda used during Stalin's regime.

LienwaltAbel:
Abeg shut up. Just say you support Putin's madness.

I actually love ur frustration lol

LienwaltAbel:
And his own people clobbered him to death in the streets? Abeg, all that shit was over processed lies. A dictator would always lie about how "good" their countries are. You can check the crazy propaganda used during Stalin's regime.

Lol you don’t know how CI.A operated sha Na why

Las las shebi the Libyans don see the true color of America?

So as people started burning down Lagos during the Endsars riots your small mind believes that the arsonists and anarchists had the backing of majority of lagosians? Lol

obailala:
Who gave you the right to play God by deciding who's a madman and who's not?

I never justified the invasion of any sovereign country; Russia vs Ukraine, India vs Pakistan, Iraq vs Kuwait, Israel vs Palestine, China vs Taiwan etc. I rightly called the US and Russia 'bullies' who selfishly disrespect thr rule of law whenever it doesnt favour them. But you're the one justifying the invasion of sovereign nations by the US under the warped excuse fed to you by western propaganda that "they are dictators". Who gave the US the right to invade anyone?....

Regarding India's neutrality, that's what wise countries do. Wise countries dont foolishly give up themselves to be used as puppets by anyone. The war in Ukraine today is just a proxy war between the US vs Russia. The US for decades has been trying to subdue its greatest superpower rivals and Ukraine foolishly chose to be the puppet in the dick measurement exercise between the US vs Russia. India isnt foolish enough to let themselves be caught in such a useless contest.

Ok I understand ur point and thanks for ur perspective. I'm not playing god bt wee all know what is proper behaviour and response.

I also don't believe a sovereign nation should be invaded by if we are realistic. There are rare cases for this. It's has been abused over the years for selfish interests bt there are reall situations that requires such interventions.

Lightorder:
you are still missing it. As a president, the interest of your people comes first. Right or wrong

...yet you expect the indian president to be a puppet to US/EU interests and vilify a country that is a great support to India, abi?!?!
LOL, the indian president works for the Indian people, and thats why he refused to receive the UK delegation who wants to force him to do whats NOT favorable for indian citizen. india has a great r/ship with Russia. who do you think delivers military assistance to India?! Russia greatly helps India with politics, defence, civil nuclear energy, anti-terrorism co-operation and space.

LienwaltAbel:
They have a larger population, and last time I checked we overtook them in the "world with the highest amount of poor people" list. So stop it with this your bra bra.

I no bra bra. The statistics says they high higher poor people than Nigeria

zoroby:
I see no sense here

cos you are senseless

Playermayweda:
Truly I don't know anything oo

come n learn

efficiencie:
Nigeria has nothing to brag about for wia India dey. India is 2nd most populous country and hence will have a larger number of persons per category of the socioeconomic strata. India's poverty rate is 68%, Nigeria's is about 40% but do not stop there. Between 1970 and now, if we rule out the COVID shock and the late 1970s shock, India has averaged 5% annual growth rate Nigeria on the other hand even after ruling out these shocks has been subject to huge swings about 0% annual growth rate (all though things got better in the 2000s. The Indian economy is driven by services (54%), industry (26%) and agriculture (20%) and this makes India relatively more stable but Nigeria GDP as we all know is heavily dependent on agriculture (25%) and trade (17%) followed by oil (9%). Nigeria's main source of foreign reserves is crude oil while India has had its reserves boosted by FDI. India as we speak has the 4th largest foreign reserves making it more resilient to both one-off and persistent shocks unlike Nigeria. India is a nuclear country with a sophisticated military but Nigeria is still managing AK 47s, tanks and 3rd generation jet fighters. I could go on and on. India presents a much better economic, military and industrial outlook than Nigeria by far.

well said. I m.not bragging. I know India is bigger than Nigeria. But a certain stat says they v more poor people than Nigeria. I only cited that part

hayzed19:
What I mean is that it will be difficult for India to sanction Russia, as both are BRICS members and had a strong strategic, military, economic and diplomatic relationship.
Apologies if you believe my previous comment was rude.

I never said India is sanctioning Russia. I accused them of being snakes

Ellasure:
Is this thinking not stupid and childish for serious matter of life and death situations?

You are childish n stupi d

NOETHNICITY:
Look at how you just lamely and passively justified slavery. Uneducated as you are you are looking at it from the perspective of an inferior African who would have preferred that his father or grandfather was among the enslaved so that you would have been benefitting today as an African American. But you are insensitive to the many years of endless torture, the endless dehumanization and killings of ur fathers. You would have preferred a life of endless slavery and subjugation for ur fathers for that benefit or you becoming an African American. You would prefer that your forefathers were deprived of thier precious freedom and humanity.
You are not even educated jare

I not justifying slave trade. God's wrath is on the white slave traders. But this curse too is on African middlemen cos they are the ones selling their kinsmen to oyinbo before being shipped.
I just v to be honest